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What does music reveal about the nature of integration? Why does the conversation between theology and psychology require such deeply personal work? How can we continue to be rooted in our theological traditions and identities while still letting down our walls and inviting other voices to our table? In episode 8 of text.soul.culture, Dr. Chelle Stearns—Associate Professor of Theology at The Seattle School—joins Dr. J. Derek McNeil to discuss her own integrative instinct and the ways in which she has more fully found herself and the presence of the Spirit within the space of dissonance.