In this special Biohacking Conference edition of the Thrive State Podcast, Dr. Kien Vuu interviews Ukrainian psychologist, media personality, and global inspiration Natalia Kholodenko. From a childhood in a rural Soviet village to becoming a household name in Ukraine, Natalia’s journey is a masterclass in resilience, embodiment, and playful manifestation.
Natalia shares the power of visualization, how she used “walking interviews” to manifest a career in media, and why dreaming bigger than your trauma is the key to healing. Her insights blend science, storytelling, and soul — and her presence alone is medicine.
🔹 Visualization + movement to rewire your brain
🔹 The neuroscience of imagination and play
🔹 How trauma can ignite transformation
🔹 Healing through art, color, and embodied emotion
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Childhood dreams, Napoleon Hill, and inner worlds
Natalia’s rise to media stardom in Ukraine
Motivation from poverty and rewriting family patterns
First exposure to online work and global community
Overcoming fear, judgment, and perfectionism
“Walking interviews” as a brain training technique
Embodied visualization, play, and neuroplasticity
Dreaming bigger than trauma and coaching displaced women
Group dream exercises and the power of new people
Resilience after loss, stress, and war
Drawing, color, and somatic healing tools
