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Julie and Casey sit down with master executive coach Katia Verresen of KVA Leadership to talk all about leadership, your zone of genius, how "optimizing" can be related more to fear and anxiety than productivity, and most importantly all about the power of PLAY.

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Katia Verresen coaches C-suite executives and rising stars from the earliest startups to Fortune 100 companies. Her passion is to help ambitious leaders achieve their full human potential. Her practice is both in Silicon Valley and NYC with clients such as Amazon, Facebook, Figma, Spotify, Stanford Business School, Thrive Capital
 www.kvaleadership.com
IG @katiastreasures 
Twitter @kvaleadership