This episode continues our ongoing coverage of travel in the time of covid. We are about 7 months into the pandemic at this point, (or maybe even 10, depending on how you count), and in that time, we have gone from complete lockdowns and lockouts, to the gradual re-opening of borders to travelers. Americans are still being barred from entering most parts of the world, but some places - like Mexico and the Caribbean - are rolling out the welcome mat to US travelers. These are complicated issues for travelers and destinations alike, and when I learned that my friend Brandon was planning to travel to Aruba with his husband, I knew that I wanted to ask him all about it when he got back. I was also curious to know how a trip like that compared to traveling closer to home in these times. Because my other friend, Leslie, has done a fair amount of local travel these past few months, I brought the two of them together to share and reflect on their experiences. One thing that stood out in our conversation was how the idea of getting away has taken on a different meaning lately, not just because of the omnipresence of the coronavirus, but also because, for some of us, it’s never really possible to escape certain realities. Take a listen.