Nicholson Baker's important new book "Baseless" is about the US military and CIA's past secret experiments with biological warfare, and about the author and historian's attempts to get the information about these disturbing secrets that he is legally entitled to. Part one of Marc Eliot Stein's in-depth two-part conversation with antiwar activist, novelist and historian Nicholson Baker ranges over topics including permasecrets, cultural archives, Joseph Pulitzer, the Korean War, bat vector bombs, psychological warfare, gaslighting and police brutality videos. We also check in with World BEYOND War's president Leah Bolger and new social media manager Alessandra Granelli about the organization's latest activities. (Music removed.)