Charlie and Julie Kagawa (Fateless) discuss video games, working with fate and destiny, Julie's brilliant world building and magic system, and the decisions she made about where to end the book.
General references:
Charlie and Julie's pre-show chat (which is the reason Charlie knows Julie meant Final Fantasy X)
My episode with Samantha Sotto Yambao is 122
Books mentioned by name or extensively:
Julie Kagawa: The Iron Fey
Julie Kagawa: The Blood Of Eden
Julie Kagawa: Talon
Games mentioned:
Assassin's Creed
D&D
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Guild Wars 2
Hitman
Prince Of Persia
Splinter Cell
Tomb Raider
Release details: recorded 19th May 2025; published 22nd September 2025
Where to find Julie online: Website || Instagram || Facebook || YouTube (Minecraft channel)
Where to find Charlie online: Website || Twitter || Instagram || TikTok
Discussions
01:35 The video game inspirations (this becomes a longer discussion)
06:09 Writing the main characters
09:36 The fatechasers as a people
11:38 Working with an ensemble cast of characters
14:34 How Julie came to choose when to reveal the details of being fateless to the character
16:39 Writing the slow burn romance
18:56 Julie's awesome world building and unique magic system
22:22 Raithe's world and what we might learn about it in book two
24:07 Kovass' religion and how Julie worked with different sects of it
27:33 On Julie's decisions as to killing characters off
29:45 Choosing where to end this book
32:29 More about book two
