This fantastic podcast is brought to you by one of your fellow listeners! Sarah joins us because she sent in a question about Compassion Fatigue and Motivational Interviewing. We dive deep into answering this question for her and all of you!
We discuss:
Where Compassion Fatigue comes fromBeing “other” centeredAccurate EmpathyHealthy BoundariesSympathy, Empathy and Compassion-what’s the differenceand much more!
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Tami Calais: [00:00:00] Hello, and welcome to the Communication Solution podcast. Here at IFIOC, we love to talk communication. We love to talk motivational interviewing, and we love talking about improving outcomes for individuals, organizations, and the communities that they serve. Today, we've got Casey Jackson on the line, John Gilbert, and I'm Tammy.
Welcome to the conversation.
John Gilbert: Hello everyone. Welcome to another podcast with the IFIOC team and we have a guest today. Sarah Cameron, if I'm saying it correctly, oh gosh, I thought when I, I thought that was what it would be, but then when I read it up top, I was like, I'm going to try it. Anyhow. Last year you spent in Spain, John.
Literally. He has Sarah. Thank you so much for joining us here today. Um, [00:01:00] really be curious what you have to bring to the table because you, I know you have at least one question, but you've been sending questions, uh, over time to Casey since you kind of came across us. And so we thought we'd have the on to, uh, just geek out with us on Motivational Interviewing and you recently have, um, uh, become a national certified health and wellness coach, which has.
Motivational Interviewing I, sounds like as a, as a backdrop in there quite a bit. So you've been even more immersed in it. So it's interesting to hear that perspective too, if you want to bring that in, um, whatever you would like to explore, it is completely, your field to do so with Casey and I.
So with that in mind, Sarah, what, would you like to say, what are you curious about and what would you like to explore?
Sarah Cameron: Well, first off, thank you so much for having me. I have become quite the Motivational Interviewing geek, and I look up to you all very highly. So, uh, this is like meeting with celebrities to me. Um, so I'm very [00:02:00] excited.
How does compassion fatigue fit in with Motivational Interviewing?
Um, well, I come to you with questions that kind of come from a different webinar that I was watching actually two different webinars. And they had someone on who was talking about Motivational Interviewing, um, and they were talking about, Motivational Interviewing in the health coaching world? And someone brought up compassion, fatigue, And it really got me thinking, I wonder where compassion, fatigue actually fits in to Motivational Iinterviewing, um, and I kind of wondered if you're truly, honoring autonomy and if you're truly empathizing, how does compassion fatigue build?
So that's kind of my first question.
Casey Jackson: Well, there's at least an hour and a half conversation. That's brilliant. [00:03:00] I just, This is why Sarah. I love when, you know, when you connect with me on email and we've chatted before I'm already have a, a hundred different thoughts going through my brain and partly is off of kind of a new web and looking at empathy as well too.
The first thing I always say is that there's so many good, smart, Motivational Interviewing trainers out there and, you know, and all of us have kind of our own take on. And some of the, some of the kind of similar takes in different takes on things. One of the things that I had to a chance to talk to bill Miller about, I actually had a, um, I always say this, this is a social worker.
I was so excited when he and Steven Rolnick were writing about compassion. And as a trainer, I'm going, why the heck are you writing about compassion? Like, it is hard enough for me to get people to really understand ...
