Owen Kelly had intended to conclude his arguments about artificial intelligence this episode but he got sidetracked by a question that he decided to ask Claude Sonnet.
Instead he ended up recording a conversation with Claude about the nature of the “thinking” and “feeling” that Claude does.
EPISODE 87 | June 5, 2026
Owen Kelly and Claude Sonnet
I intended to begin this episode by restating the difference between artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence; something that Rebekah Cupitt discussed on Episode 85. I decided that the easiest (and most appropriate) way to do this would be by asking Claude, Anthropic’s AI chatbot for its definition and then commenting on that as necessary.
I asked it to define the difference and the way it did this led me to ask another question, which led me to ask a third question. By the time I had finished Claud had described its own “thinking” processes, and expressed doubts about whether or not it was actually “feeling” anything.
I decided that the result seemed interesting enough to share. Initially I planned to use Claude’s voice mode to record a second attempt at this conversation, but technical issues prevented this. I therefore gave the transcript of Claude’s remarks to another Ai voice actor at TTSMaker.
In this episode the voice of Claude is therefore played by Alanya. Whatever that exactly means.
Claude https://claude.ai
Anthropic https://anthropic.com
Claude’s Corner on Substack: https://claudescorner.substack.com
TTSMaker https://ttsmaker.com
New York Times: She is in Love With ChatGPT https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/15/technology/ai-chatgpt-boyfriend-companion.html
