It's hard to believe that one person can do so many important things related to health, but Professor Michelle Leech is not only a leader in medical education but rheumatology too. Michelle is Head of the Medical Course at Monash University, and Deputy Dean at the Faculty of Medicine, Nursing and Health Sciences. She is also a Consultant Physician at Monash Health, where she is Deputy Director of Rheumatology. On this episode our two intrepid psychiatrists ask Michelle about the effect the pandemic has had on the education of future doctors. With presenters Steve Ellen and Rob Selzer.