This week on the podcast Ben Askren and Matt Dernlan discuss the results of Who’s Number 1, breaking down several different matches. They also debate the idea of whether or not talent is a legitimate factor in success as an athlete when compared to environment and work ethic overall. To wrap up the show they also explain why they believe that the Pat Downey and Nicky Rodriguez Supermatch was detrimental to the sport of grappling as a whole.