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This week's episode is stacked with guests who are helping us navigate the topic of race and culture in a time of great debate in our country.

Dr. Shirley Turner is a professor of English and African American Studies at Penn State and she and her husband TJ discuss their perspective on the subject from both an academic and historic angle.

We are also joined by Sulaiman Rahman who has been on the frontlines at the various rallies in the DC Metro area.

There is a lot to unpack that we will be doing another episode to continue the conversation.