For our 20th episode we conversed with Marine Van Schoonbeek, the director and co-founder of Thanks for Nothing, an association that mobilizes artists and the world of culture by organizing solidarity oriented projects. We talked about the complex merging of philanthropy and art, and the path that led her to where she is today. We discussed the recent Colloquium of Art and Commitment organized by the association in the Louvre auditorium and inquired about the politicization of art. Finally, Marine walked us though the association’s most ambitious project yet, La Collective. A new venue for artistic creation, solidarity and ecology.