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On this episode of the Cygnal Pulse Pod, CEO Brent Buchanan, and VP of Research & Analysis Chris Kratzer, talk about “safety voters” and build revisit their previous discussion about voters’ emotions.

This week’s guest is John Rogers, former Executive Director of NRCC. He and Brent talk about the wisdom and experience he acquired from his record four cycles at the committee. He discusses his greatest challenges and provides insights from his grassroots political activity.