Professor PJ Blount rejoins us to discuss security in space. PJ was a Professor at Cardiff, but is now At University of Durham in the UK. We start at the Treaty on the Use of Outer Space adopted by the United Nations. But just how enforceable is that? How does it get enforced? What has happened since the 1960's? Where does diabolical Jeffzikistan fit in? Was I wrong about Starlink and Musk's decisions over Ukraine? We cover all this and more. Note: there were some connectivity issues that always resolved after a few moments. I felt either it was understandable or I asked the Professor to repeat points. I felt this was the better route than re-scheduling. I apologize for any audio issues.