A nice warm day in the cabin at the end of the garden it was. Although we probably didn't have too much to talk about before we hit record the conversation flowed. We chatted about the book that Wes has started to read and compared notes on the different therapies available to people who struggle with their negative thoughts. We also talked about the good service Michael got when he eventually went to Specsavers. All in all the conversation just flowed. Michael is still doing his best to get over Wes's outburst of laughter when Michael said he felt he was fat!!!