Kaitlyn talks about the power of understanding both sides (even if you disagree), a theology of politics, and how the church needs to tell better stories. SHOW NOTES: 1:00 - Kaitlyn's debate team roots 9:15 - the cutthroat world of seminary, and the transition to full time ministry 13:14 - "it's not that churches are TOO political, it's that they are insufficiently political." 18:22 - the impossibility of being "separate from the world." 22:00 - churches need to learn to tell better stories 26:45 - the stories our worship songs tell us 28:00 - "our church's statement on race relations was that we baptized a black man" 32:17 - confession as political activism 35:50 - the stories our news, shows, podcasts, and preaching tell us 42:00 - churches are priming people to believe conspiracy theories(!) 43:13 - why is God better than we think? 48:00 - how to pray for Kaitlyn
