This is a LIVE replay of A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast which aired Wednesday, April 12th, 2023 at 1130am ET on Fireside Chat. Today's guest is Andrew Daniel, Author of "Awaken to Your True Self" and Director of the Center for Cinesomatic Development. -------------- Lorilee Binstock 00:00:50 Welcome. I'm Lorilee Binstock, and this is a trauma survivor Thrivers Podcast. Thank you so much for joining me live on Fireside Chat, where you can be a part of conversation as my virtual audience. I am your host, Lorilee Binstock. Everyone has an opportunity to ask me or our guest questions by requesting hop on stage or sending a message in the chat box, I will try to get to you, but I do ask that everyone be respectful. Today's guest is Andrew Daniel, author of the bestselling book, awaken to your true self, the founder of Cinesomatics and director at the center for Cinesomatic Development. Daniel, thank you so much for joining me today. Andrew Daniel 00:01:48 Thank you for having me. Lorilee Binstock 00:01:50 Well, you know, I was really intrigued. I you know, I've heard of, you know, somatic experiencing, which actually I really just discovered that in twenty twenty when I went into residential treatment. But when I heard about you, I heard I I I learned this new thing, at least in my mind, synosomatic therapy. Could you actually tell me a little bit about that? Andrew Daniel 00:02:12 Yeah. It it is it is very cutting edge stuff. Basically, cinematics let's just start with the word. So it comes from two words, cinema and somatics. So cinema somatics. So the first part is Sinesh. So in this therapy, in this it's pretty much an entire transformational approach. We use video. And so we use video and movement, and then the somatic part, the body. So we use video and movement to watch the way people show up in their body. And then we play that video back of them moving in their body. And then myself or other people in the group will give feedback about all of the unconscious, the subconscious patterns, mythologies, archetypes that are symbolically coming through the body. And not only is it a feedback from the participants or myself, but they get to see it for themselves in their own body on the video replay. So it's a very potent feedback loop that helps people see all of the hidden traumas or stories or blocks and even shadow material that's holding them back in their life. Lorilee Binstock 00:03:36 That's really fascinating because, you know, we do these things. We we fiddle our hands when we we get nervous. We, you know, we even sweat. Andrew Daniel 00:03:43 Yes. Lorilee Binstock 00:03:46 We do so many different things based on the things we learn growing up that kind of make us feel safer, I guess, these coping mechanisms. And I I and I that that is that is really fascinating to me because I'm assuming most people don't know what, like, their trick ticks or whatever are. How did you actually discover this as a type of therapy? Andrew Daniel 00:04:15 So it's about twofold. One, I mean, on my journey of my own traumas and growing up and everything led me to actually a lot of alternative and holistic healing methods. We didn't have a lot of big medical insurance. We weren't into any of the pharmaceuticals, or my parents took me to, I think, a psychologist once But very gratefully, I ended up through my own self help, self improvement journey, came across all of these different methods. There was neuro linguistic programming. There was tapping EFT. There was acupuncture. There was hypnosis. There was all of these things that were actually pretty helpful for me. And I actually got certified in different immunotherapies and and different stuff. And for a while, it it worked very well, and it and exposed me to whole new world of well, a whole new world, really. Because because not only was it just therapy, everything in my life was changing, it was like, oh my gosh. It's not because I don't know the technique. It's because I got all this junk and stuff inside. I mean, that's getting in the way. Lorilee Binstock 00:05:32 Mhmm. Andrew Daniel 00:05:32 And so that set me on a healing journey for for the past fifteen years. And, eventually, I reached a a Plato. I I was homeless twice, even after being published. My software company did very well, and then it just stopped. And I was wondering how and why that after all these successes and learning all of these spiritual and even practical truths and wisdoms, I was still stuck. There were still many things in my life that weren't working. And so I came across work by a a late mentor of mine who was pioneering some of this video and movement work. And so I learned a lot through him, and that really exposed me to this world of symbolic somatic, all this un not not invisible, but invisible to many of us, Lorilee Binstock 00:06:35 Mhmm. Andrew Daniel 00:06:36 information about ourselves in our body. And then so I studied under him for a few years until he passed. And then I took everything that I learned and then started expanding upon it. So I took that movement and video process, and I added in the cinema aspects We use very high end cinema equipment to get a lot of data. And then through that practice, in my own practice, one of the things I discovered to solidify Sonosomatics as my own modality we're we're the discovery of archetypes in the body. And what I mean by this is when I would watch clients move, and I would say something like Alright. Okay. So you're struggling with making money in your life. Okay. Lorilee Binstock 00:07:24 I wanna know more. Andrew Daniel 00:07:25 Right? Is yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock 00:07:27 This is me. Andrew Daniel 00:07:27 So Yeah. So you're struggling with money in your life. Okay. Well, show me through the body your relationship with money. What is making money look look like to you? Not don't tell me about it. Show me show me in the body. Alright. What is spending money look like? Oh, what does having money look like? Oh, okay. And then what I started to find is that what people said or thought or had an image of in their mind didn't always match the way that their body felt. So it's all about the feeling, what the body feels like as it's moving. It's not a mental, logical analysis. We're dealing with symbolism. We're dealing with the realm of the unconscious. It's not logical and linear. It is symbolic, metaphorical, allegorical. And so I started to see, oh, this person, I say, show me making money. And it takes them two minutes to start moving. When you're standing in front of somebody on camera for two minutes, That that for many people is like an eternity. Lorilee Binstock 00:08:39 Mhmm. Andrew Daniel 00:08:39 And, also, in our own life, If you scale that out, well, what does that mean about somebody? What does it mean about someone's relationship with making money? If it takes them two minutes to even start moving, where most people who are functional in it move immediately. They'll move it in in about one or two seconds. And so I started to notice that there were these correlations. And then I would watch some of these people, and I would say, alright, show me something like giving. And then they would do something where they they would take their hands and pull it into themselves. The the direction would be towards them, and I'm like, wait a minute. Giving giving objectively should go outwards. And so then I would say, alright. Well, what's your relationship with receiving and giving in your life? And they're like, oh, I struggle with this. And so I I started to very, very quickly notice the correlations between the way that somebody represented these archetypes in their body and the actual practical practical results they were getting in their life. And
