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This is a LIVE replay of A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast which aired Wednesday, April 19th, 2023 at 1130am ET on Fireside Chat. Today's guest is https://clt1233497.benchmarkurl.com/c/l?u=F503550&e=16214B1&c=12D259&t=0&l=474F153A&email=YpmP8I8ybQQMvCltR%2BiQ0t%2Feq5uYXDKS&seq=1, a global leader in trauma healing.   https://firesidechat.com/lorileebinstock  00:00:34  Welcome. I'm Loriee Binstock And this is a trauma survivor, thriver's podcast. Hello, everyone. My apologies Thank you, for so much for joining me today live on FireSide chat where you can be a part of the conversation as my virtual on and time your home loyalty been stuck. Everyone has an opportunity to ask me or our guest question if By requesting to hop on stage, you're sending a message in the chat box, I will try to get to you but I do I ask everyone be respectful. Today's guest is Mandy rv she is a global leader in trauma healing. Maybe, thank you so much for joining me today.   https://firesidechat.com/mandyharvey  00:03:20  You're welcome. Thank you for having me.   https://firesidechat.com/lorileebinstock  00:03:23  Well, I do want to talk to... You know where I wanna talk to you about chronic illness and trauma in that connection. We've had folks talk a little bit about that. But you also have a program and a protocol to actually solve it all. So for for people who haven't heard anyway previous podcast. Could you imagine talk about the connection between chronic illness and trauma.   https://firesidechat.com/mandyharvey  00:03:51  Yeah. Absolutely. Well, what's very interesting about chronic health issues as we become adults once we start to develop them, it's not in uncommon. I think we all know someone or more than one person who might suffer with some type of chronic health issue or autoimmune condition. It is a very common experience. But there is a correlation between developing that later in life and what we experience in our early childhood. And What's really interesting to mean is that our protocols currently to care for our chronic health issues to care for our our autoimmune condition are often focused on our diet, which is an important element. It's focus on our lifestyle, which is also important and perhaps some medication But the people that I work with off and don't resolve their health issues or don't feel a sense of relief with those three pillars. And in my own hinge of being a functional nutritional therapy practitioner. And someone who is also experiencing practice I started to really dive into the under eigenvalues of why would I like get... Why would someone struggle to improve their health when they're eating the right things. When they are moving their bodies in the right way, and they're feeling some relief, but they're really not able to get over the edge of feeling like they're able to thrive in their life. And as I started to, I need cover and discover kind of the correlation between our early childhood experiences in our house leader in life, that really showed to help me see this many piece that we often don't. We don't include in our protocols we're not told about it, and That was also the key for myself and it comes down to what I like to talk about in terms of emotions in our immune system. So emotions in general, they have one fundamental function. And that really our emotions that you think about them is to allow what is healthy, what is nourishing and what a supportive for us, allowing my into our life and Our emotions can also help us keep out what is toxic and dangerous. They can become this filter for us. They can be this kind of this roadmap map if you will to help and and know which what helpful for us and what isn't helpful. But that is also the role of our immune system. Our immune system does exactly the thing It's to keep out what's toxic and to let in what's nourishing lighting in the nutrients of vitamins, the healthy bacteria, and to keep out and destroy what isn't healthy and a port of? So the emotional in the immune system are exactly the same function. So when we experience something traumatic in childhood, or even if we well, meaning, parents, but they unfortunately just didn't meet our needs as a child, And we learn that we need to refresh our emotions or we learn to hold shame about who we are and how we're how how we're feeling or we are taught that we are you know, we believe are bad or wrong because of experiences we've had in childhood. We start to refresh ourselves physically, and that can have an impact on our immune system. So the more that we learn to sorry emotions and the more that we impress ourselves just in general, the more impact it has in our immune. So when we going a little bit deeper in the childhood when we have a traumatic experience in childhood or we have ongoing traumatic experiences like abuse or an neglect or emotionally unavailable. Caretaker or anything in the realm of that. We our bodies go through a process to activate our stress hormone. So say we experience them. Fall our body goes to the process of activating our adrenals and activating our hormones months that process is meant to help us ready our body to site a threat to run away from the threat or and you know, get ourselves to safety but as the child oftentimes, if we're experiencing abuse on a regular basis, we or any of these instructions circumstances would... I just shared. We're not able to   https://firesidechat.com/lorileebinstock  00:08:48  Mhmm.   https://firesidechat.com/mandyharvey  00:08:47  run away or fight our abuse in most cases. And so the body cannot turn off those functions once it has started. And what happens is one that trauma as a child gets stuck in our body and in our psyche, but to that stress of that trauma. And the activation of our stress hormones. To ready our body to fight or flee that process start to impact our biology, and it essentially, makes us more susceptible to getting stressed. Faster. So if you think about we experience something like that in childhood, and as we become an adult. We may... If we have not, healed those experiences and we're we've learned to of physically that stress response becomes faster and found   https://firesidechat.com/lorileebinstock  00:09:41  Mm-mm   https://firesidechat.com/mandyharvey  00:09:42  share and faster. We experience stress an adult And eventually, our bodies just get out. We can only handle so much. Before our bodies burn out, and then we start to develop these chronic health issues because of the impact, that that's stressed. Had had on our immune system and the be rep refreshing of those emotions and the energy of those emotions in our body starts to deteriorate our health, and then we start to develop these health issues.   https://firesidechat.com/lorileebinstock  00:10:09  Wow, you know, I manic experiencing was so vital in my healing and understanding trauma when I was first seeking help in twenty twenty and residential treatment   https://firesidechat.com/mandyharvey  00:10:30  Yeah.   https://firesidechat.com/lorileebinstock  00:10:29  experiencing was a big part of it. And so I'm able to kind of understand that I obviously have my moments where I've I I can't really think logically and rash about what's actually happening in my brain, But you know, I I think you know this. I I actually tour my Acl recently. And I just got surgery a couple weeks ago. And my husband has got as in a way   https://firesidechat.com/mandyharvey  00:10:56  Oh,   https://firesidechat.com/lorileebinstock  00:10:56  So I I feel like my stress level is so heightened, and I feel like I have been so just   https://firesidechat.com/mandyharvey  00:11:02  Yeah.   https://firesidechat.com/lorileebinstock  00:11:05  so completely reactive with my children, and I realized when I was... I just like, downstairs stairs, and we live in you know... It's like three stories and Capitol Hill very narrow and tall. And my children I heard them on the third floor, screaming. And, like, immediately, I just felt like everything just ten up because, typically, if they're screaming, I'm like, okay.   https://firesidechat.com/mandyharvey  00:11:31  Yes.   https://firesidechat.com/lorileebinstock  00:11:30  I'll be there. But now, but I'm like, oh my gosh. It's gonna take me forever to get the stairs right now. Like, I don't know what's gonna happen. And I started getting stressed out and angry and upset. And I... You know, I just imagine a wounded animal in the forest and just like   https://firesidechat.com/mandyharvey  00:11:43  Yeah.