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In this episode, Thom Jennings and Jack Burris dive into the often absurd reality of working salaried positions, recalling personal experiences with "Chinese Overtime" and how corporate policies sometimes exploit workers. They share stories from their early careers—Thom in the restaurant business and Jack in the restaurant business—and how both faced low pay despite long hours, eventually leading them to take unorthodox paths, including Thom’s transition into education..The two also explore the legacy of family businesses, touching on the fate of Brown's Berry Patch- an Orleans County insitituion, leaving listeners with both laughs and a few lessons on life, work, and taking control of your future.

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