What happens when we stop patting ourselves on the back for “special” inclusion—and start building communities where accommodations are normal, and leadership is shared?In this episode, Heather and Steve talk with Kurt Roskopf, disability ally and founder of the Everybody Skis program. When a skier who needed some accommodations was sent home dry, Kurt felt awful—and that moment reframed how he approached every day after that. It set in motion a movement that redefined inclusion across Wisconsin and beyond.Steve first met Kurt through the Helpipedia initiative—a national collaboration connecting families, educators, and professionals to disability resources. We discuss this as well as what real inclusion looks like. Moving from symbolic gestures to structural change. which gives you a blueprint for rethinking belonging in your own community.Blueprint for Barrier DemolitionKurt’s journey reveals lessons that can reshape how we approach everything—from the way we build teams and plan community events to how we design classrooms, businesses, or neighborhood spaces. The blueprint that emerges isn’t about following exact steps, but about rethinking how we show up and realizing that small shifts can spark big change.Listeners will leave asking themselves: