Ian, Andy & Carl reflect on a terrible day for United as they are comprehensively beaten by City.Why can't Erik ten Hag get his players to the way he wants and how do they move forward ahead a collection of must win games?There is also a look at the tactical decisions made by Ten Hag in both his starting line-up and the changes made at half time.And how much is the on going off pitch 'takeover' saga effecting events on the pitch?
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