Gary continues speaking with Kim Burgess about 1 Corinthians 15 and the timing and nature of the resurrection. Kim continues teaching about Sheol, the realm of the dead, and how Jesus gave victory over it. Believers no longer die and go to Sheol, they immediately enter the presence of Christ. As Paul taught, "to live is Christ and to die is gain" (Philippians 1:21) and "absent from the body, present with the Lord" (2 Cor. 5:8).