In this episode of The Rising Podcast, join Melanie as she welcomes her long-time collaborator and friend, award-winning music producer Ben Shive. Ben, known for his incredible musical talent and insight, has produced all of Melanie’s albums, including The Rising, a resurrection album they co-wrote. They delve into their creative process, discussing how they crafted songs inspired by scripture, navigating the delicate balance of interpretation and faithfulness. The conversation expands to explore what it truly means to be an artist and creator, touching on themes of calling, workaholism, and the importance of Sabbath in a technology-driven world. Ben shares deeply personal insights into his spiritual journey and the challenges of balancing artistic ambition with spiritual discipline. This episode offers a unique perspective for artists and creators of all kinds, as well as anyone interested in the intersection of faith and creativity.
Thought-Provoking Quotes:
“We really didn’t want to feel like we were putting words in Jesus’ mouth that makes him my Jesus… one that I find to be easier to grapple with… So I remember feeling some humility writing the “Jesus” song. - Ben Shive
“He's my Dad, so He doesn't go 'shame on you.' He goes 'yes, I know that's what you did. I saw you do that.' It's like when my kids mess up, I'm not going to catch them so I can bust them. I'm hoping they get caught so that we can talk about it and they can learn and grow. That's God's attitude toward me." - Ben Shive
"I'm not in control of who the music reaches and how they feel about it when it reaches them. So my goals have become a little bit more about what the work is supposed to be like. What should the process feel like? What's an honoring way to work?"- Ben Shive
Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned In This Episode:
Remembering by Wendell Berry
A Liturgy, A Legacy & A Ragamuffin Band by Rich Mullins
Knowing God by J.I. Packer
The Jesus Storybook Bible by Sally Lloyd-Jones
Eat This Book by Eugene Peterson
“Holy is the Lord” by Ben Shive and Andrew Peterson
The Sermon on the Mount
*Watch this interview on the YouTube channel!
*All episode music is by Melanie Penn.
Guest’s Links:
Ben Shive’s Website
Ben Shive’s Instagram
Connect with Melanie:
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*The Rising Podcast is a production of Four Eyes Media.
