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Jay Kassing is a long time friend and associate of mine going back 36 years. We were salesmen together in what I would call our boot camp experience in the marketing world. Like Old Blue Eyes used to sing; if you could make it there you could make it anywhere. It was a wild and wooly time of slinging copiers down the streets of middle 80s Dallas when the buildings were popping up all over the Metroplex like North Texas Bluebonnets. Fast forward to today when both of us have had a long career in sales and business ownership with a nod to sales and a heavy dose of marketing. From college DJ to retiree and Spanish Major to Manufacturer's rep in Mexico. You can listen to see which is which. I hope you enjoy hearing our conversation as we always seem we enjoy having them. It went longer than the customary show so here's Part 2. Jay also gives us some insight into retiring and philanthropy in this half.Support the show