In episode three, Red Head and Pam continue to discuss Pam's childhood, family struggles, and journey to self. Pam reflects on attending Joanne’s Aunt Carol's funeral and the impact her Aunt Carol had on her life. They delve into painful memories of Pam's upbringing, including the blatant favoritism shown to her brother and the emotional abuse she endured. She also explores the strained relationship with her daughter and her husband's difficult decisions surrounding his marriage to Pam and their children. The episode touches on themes of loyalty, resilience, and finding strength amidst adversity. Joanne and Pam share personal anecdotes and discuss the broader implications of multi generational trauma and “narcissistic” behavior on family dynamics.