Joanne and Shelly engage in an insightful conversation about the busy lives of women (busy often equals trauma) and the importance of slowing down to reconnect with nature and solitude. They discuss the impact of losing sight of our surroundings, the significance of nature in their personal lives, and share experiences with their pets. They also delve into topics like the benefits and effects of psychedelic experiences and the challenges of sustaining and discussing intimacy as they age.
