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Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaSetting targets for developer productivity metricsIn this episode, Abi Noda is joined by Laura Tacho, CTO at DX, engineering leadership coach, and creator of the Core 4 framework. They explore how engineering organizations can avoid common pitfalls when adopting metrics frameworks like SPACE, DORA, and Core 4.Laura shares a practical guide to getting started with Core 4—beginning with controllable input metrics that teams can actually influence. The conversation touches on Goodhart’s Law, why focusing too much on output metrics can lead to data distortion, and how leaders can build a culture of continuous improvement rooted in meaningful measurement.Wh...2025-05-0943 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaThe AI adoption playbook: Lessons from Microsoft's internal strategyBrian Houck from Microsoft returns to discuss effective strategies for driving AI adoption among software development teams. Brian shares his insights into why the immense hype around AI often serves as a barrier rather than a facilitator for adoption, citing skepticism and inflated expectations among developers. He highlights the most effective approaches, including leadership advocacy, structured training, and cultivating local champions within teams to demonstrate practical use cases. Brian emphasizes the importance of honest communication about AI's capabilities, avoiding over-promises, and ensuring that teams clearly understand what AI tools are best suited for. Additionally, he discusses common p...2025-04-1829 min
Refactoring PodcastMeasuring and Improving Developer Experience 📊 — with Abi NodaToday's guest is Abi Noda, the CEO and founder of DX, one of the leading engineering intelligence platforms.With Abi, we talked about measuring developer experience. We started with the early days of Accelerate and why we feel like most people got the book wrong. And then we continued to present days and how research focuses on driving great developer experience. And finally, we couldn't avoid talking about AI and why it seems to be a game changer for entrepreneurs, but not so much for teams yet.01:23 Introduction02:45 Abi's journey in tech08:19 The four key metrics10:41 Metrics' reliability13:41 Diagnostic...2025-04-1842 min
Refactoring PodcastMeasuring and Improving Developer Experience 📊 — with Abi NodaToday's guest is Abi Noda, the CEO and founder of DX, one of the leading engineering intelligence platforms.With Abi, we talked about measuring developer experience. We started with the early days of Accelerate and why we feel like most people got the book wrong. And then we continued to present days and how research focuses on driving great developer experience. And finally, we couldn't avoid talking about AI and why it seems to be a game changer for entrepreneurs, but not so much for teams yet.01:23 Introduction02:45 Abi's journey in tech08:19 The four key metrics10:41 Metrics' reliability13:41 Diagnostic metrics16:06...2025-04-1842 min
Steering Engineering, Gartner Podcast for Software Engineering LeadersDoes Developer Experience Really Matter? — With Abi NodaIn this episode of the Steering Engineering Podcast, Brent Stewart and Danny Brian dive into the business case for developer experience with expert Abi Noda. They discuss how a high-quality developer experience leads to increased productivity, software quality, and business impact, despite the fact that many organizations underinvest in it. Using insights from Gartner’s Developer Experience Assessment Survey, they explore why developer satisfaction remains low and what companies can do to improve. They also examine the role of AI-augmented software engineering tools and whether an “AI divide” is emerging. Tune in to hear whether developer experience is truly worth...2025-04-1631 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaYou have developer productivity metrics. Now what?Many teams struggle to use developer productivity data effectively because they don’t know how to use it to decide what to do next. We know that data is here to help us improve, but how do you know where to look? And even then, what do you actually do to put the wheels of change in motion? Listen to this conversation with Abi Noda and Laura Tacho (CEO and CTO at DX) about data-driven management and how to take a structured, analytical approach to using data for improvement.Mentions and Links:Measuring developer productivity with the...2025-02-2239 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaDX Core 4: 2024 benchmarksIn this episode, Abi and Laura dive into the 2024 DX Core 4 benchmarks, sharing insights across data from 500+ companies. They discuss what these benchmarks mean for engineering leaders, how to interpret key metrics like the Developer Experience Index, and offer advice on how to best use benchmarking data in your organization. Mentions and Links:DX core 4 benchmarksMeasuring developer productivity with the DX Core 4Developer experience index (DXI)Will Larson’s article on the Core 4 and power of benchmarking dataDiscussion points:(0:42) What benchmarks are for(3:44) Overview of the DX Core 4 benchmarks(6:07) PR throughput data (11:05) Key ins...2025-01-0828 min
🧠 _DX Core 4: Framework overview, key design principles, and practical applications Podcast: Engineering Enablement by Abi Noda (LS 36 · TOP 2.5% what is this?)Episode: DX Core 4: Framework overview, key design principles, and practical applicationsPub date: 2024-12-12Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationIn this episode, Abi and Laura introduce the DX Core 4, a new framework designed to simplify how organizations measure developer productivity. They discuss the evolution of productivity metrics, comparing Core 4 with frameworks like DORA, SPACE, and DevEx, and emphasize its focus on speed, effectiveness, quality, and impact. They explore why each metric was cho...2024-12-1936 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaDX Core 4: Framework overview, key design principles, and practical applicationsIn this episode, Abi and Laura introduce the DX Core 4, a new framework designed to simplify how organizations measure developer productivity. They discuss the evolution of productivity metrics, comparing Core 4 with frameworks like DORA, SPACE, and DevEx, and emphasize its focus on speed, effectiveness, quality, and impact. They explore why each metric was chosen, the importance of balancing productivity measures with developer experience, and how Core 4 can help engineering leaders align productivity goals with broader business objectives. Mentions and Links:Measuring developer productivity with the DX Core 4Laura’s developer productivity metrics courseDiscussion Points:(2...2024-12-1236 min
The Changelog: Software Development, Open SourceDeveloper (un)happiness (Friends)Abi Noda, co-founder and CEO at DX, joins the show to talk through data shared from the Stack Overflow 2024 Developer Survey, why devs are really unhappy, and what they’re doing at DX to help orgs and teams to understand the metrics behind their developer’s happiness and productivity.
Join the discussionChangelog++ members get a bonus 5 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today!Sponsors:Sentry – Code breaks, fix it faster. Don’t just observe. Take action. Sentry is the only app monitoring platform built for develope...2024-10-041h 46Changelog & FriendsDeveloper (un)happinessAbi Noda, co-founder and CEO at DX, joins the show to talk through data shared from the Stack Overflow 2024 Developer Survey, why devs are really unhappy, and what they’re doing at DX to help orgs and teams to understand the metrics behind their developer’s happiness and productivity.
Join the discussionChangelog++ members get a bonus 5 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today!Sponsors:Sentry – Code breaks, fix it faster. Don’t just observe. Take action. Sentry is the only app monitoring platform built for develope...2024-10-041h 46Changelog Master FeedDeveloper (un)happiness (Changelog & Friends #64)Abi Noda, co-founder and CEO at DX, joins the show to talk through data shared from the Stack Ocverflow 2024 Developer Survey, why devs are really unhappy, and what they’re doing at DX to help orgs and teams to understand the metrics behind their developer’s happiness and productivity.
Join the discussionChangelog++ members get a bonus 5 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today!Sponsors:Sentry – Code breaks, fix it faster. Don’t just observe. Take action. Sentry is the only app monitoring platform built for develope...2024-10-041h 46
Thoughtworks Technology PodcastMeasuring developer experienceTrying to measure developer effectiveness or productivity isn't a new problem. However, with the rise of fields like platform engineering and a new wave of potential opportunities from generative AI, the issue has come into greater focus in recent years. In this episode of the Technology Podcast, hosts Scott Shaw and Prem Chandrasekaran speak to Abi Noda, CEO of software engineering intelligence platform DX, about measuring developer experience using the DevEx Framework — which Abi developed alongside Nicole Forsgren, Margaret-Anne Storey and Michaela Greiler. Taking in everything from the origins of the DevEx framework in SPACE met...2024-08-2241 min
Prefrontal by CortexAbi Noda - DX: Driving Developer ExperienceThis episode features Abi Noda, a prominent figure in the software engineering world, known for his in-depth research and solutions geared towards elevating the importance of developer experience.
As the CEO of DX, a developer insights platform, and the host of the Engineering Enablement newsletter and podcast, Abi is at the forefront of understanding and influencing how developers work and thrive. We'll dive into his journey from CEO and successful co-founder of Pull Panda to his current role where he continues to shape the future of developer tools.
Studies and materials referenced throughout the conversation:
When to establish a Developer...2024-07-3156 min🧠 _The science behind DORA | Derek DeBellis (Google) Podcast: Engineering Enablement by Abi Noda (LS 36 · TOP 2.5% what is this?)Episode: The science behind DORA | Derek DeBellis (Google)Pub date: 2024-05-07Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationClick here to view the episode transcript.
In this week's episode, we welcome Derek DeBellis, lead researcher on Google's DORA team, for a deep dive into the science and methodology behind DORA's research. We explore Derek's background, his role at Google, and how DORA intersects with other research disciplines. Derek takes us through DORA's res...2024-07-2047 min🧠 _DORA, SPACE, and DevEx: Choosing the right framework | Laura Tacho + Abi Noda Podcast: Engineering Enablement by Abi Noda (LS 36 · TOP 2.5% what is this?)Episode: DORA, SPACE, and DevEx: Choosing the right framework | Laura Tacho + Abi NodaPub date: 2024-05-21Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationClick here to view the episode transcript'.
This week’s episode is a recording from a recent event hosted by Abi Noda (CEO of DX) and Laura Tacho (CTO at DX). The episode begins with an overview of the DORA, SPACE, and DevEx frameworks, including where they overlap and commo...2024-07-2039 min🧠 _Exploring Developer Productivity with AI: Insights from Airbnb, GitHub, and Jumio Podcast: Engineering Enablement by Abi Noda (LS 36 · TOP 2.5% what is this?)Episode: Exploring Developer Productivity with AI: Insights from Airbnb, GitHub, and JumioPub date: 2024-07-17Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationClick here to view the episode transcript.
In this week's episode, Abi is joined by industry leaders Idan Gazit from GitHub, Anna Sulkina from Airbnb, and Alix Melchy from Jumio. Together, they discuss the impact of GenAI tools on developer productivity, exploring challenges in measurement and enhancement. They delve into AI...2024-07-2035 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaExploring Developer Productivity with AI: Insights from Airbnb, GitHub, and JumioClick here to view the episode transcript.
In this week's episode, Abi is joined by industry leaders Idan Gazit from GitHub, Anna Sulkina from Airbnb, and Alix Melchy from Jumio. Together, they discuss the impact of GenAI tools on developer productivity, exploring challenges in measurement and enhancement. They delve into AI's evolving role in engineering, from overcoming friction points to exploring real-world applications and the future of technology. Gain insights into how AI-driven chat assistants are reshaping workflows and the vision for coding.Links: How to measure GenAI adoption and impactTimestamps:2024-07-1735 min
The Engineering Leadership PodcastSpeed v. Quality, Measuring Productivity & Cross-Functional Relationships - Tackling the Top 10 Eng Leadership Challenges! #186This is Part 2 of our Top 10 Challenges series! In this episode, we’re focusing on three common team challenges that eng leaders face: how to increase velocity without losing quality, measure productivity & create meaningful metrics, and work cross-functionally with other teams. We identified these challenges based on conversations with hundreds of eng leaders from podcast episodes, ELC events, and more. For this ep, we’ve pulled insights from various eng leaders, including Richard Wong @ enrich, Fatemah Alavizadeh @ Notion, Andrew Fong @ Prodvana, Randall Koutnik @ Jellyfish, Abi Noda @ DX, Barbara Nelson @ InfluxDB, Laura Fay @ L Fay Associates, and Jeremy Henrickson @ Rippling.2024-07-0942 min
Codurance Talks[ES] Potenciando la eficiencia organizacional a través de la DevEx con Dani LatorreEn este episodio, nos sentamos con Dani Latorre, Platform Lead en Genially, para explorar su labor maximizando la eficiencia de los distintos equipos de desarrollo y mejorando su Developer Experience.
Conversamos sobre las diversas iniciativas que pueden implementarse, cómo identificar problemas para establecer prioridades y las formas de lograr una alineación estratégica entre la Developer Experience y los objetivos de negocio para no solo generar un impacto positivo en los equipos sino en toda la organización.
Además, discutimos cómo medir factores tanto tangibles como intangibles para guiar estos esfuerzos, destac...2024-06-2748 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaHow SiriusXM revamped their platform and developer experience | Jared WolinskyClick here to view the episode transcript.
In this week's episode, Abi welcomes Jared Wolinsky, Vice President of Platform Engineering at SiriusXM, to delve into the inner workings of platform engineering at SiriusXM. Jared sheds light on their innovative approach to prioritizing projects, emphasizing alignment with overarching business goals. They explore how these strategies boost developer speed and drive technological advancement within the organization.Links: When is the right time to establish a DevProd team reportTimestamps:(1:39) SiriusXM's major rebuild(4:46) Challenges of building a platform during a major product revamp(7:22) Navigating t...2024-06-1940 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaDORA, SPACE, and DevEx: Choosing the right framework | Laura Tacho + Abi NodaClick here to view the episode transcript'.
This week’s episode is a recording from a recent event hosted by Abi Noda (CEO of DX) and Laura Tacho (CTO at DX). The episode begins with an overview of the DORA, SPACE, and DevEx frameworks, including where they overlap and common misconceptions about each. Laura and Abi discuss the advantages and drawbacks of each framework, then discuss how to choose which framework to use.Mentions and Links: Dora.devDiscussion points:2:50- DORA, SPACE, DevEx overview10:35- Choosing which framework to...2024-05-2139 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaThe science behind DORA | Derek DeBellis (Google)Click here to view the episode transcript.
In this week's episode, we welcome Derek DeBellis, lead researcher on Google's DORA team, for a deep dive into the science and methodology behind DORA's research. We explore Derek's background, his role at Google, and how DORA intersects with other research disciplines. Derek takes us through DORA's research process step by step, from defining outcomes and factors to survey design, analysis, and structural equation modeling.Mentions and Links:Derek DeBellis on LinkedInDX’s guide to measuring GenAI adoption and impact2023 Accelerate State of DevOps ReportDiscussion po...2024-05-0747 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaWhat’s up with internal developer portals? | Chris Westerhold (Thoughtworks)Click here to view the episode transcript.
This week’s episode is the recording of a live conversation between Abi and Chris Westerhold (Thoughtworks Head of Developer Experience). This conversation is useful for anyone early in their journey with developer portals or platforms: Abi and Chris discuss common approaches to solving these problems, pitfalls to avoid, building vs. buying, and more. Mentions and LinksFollow Chris on LinkedInWatch the recording of this conversation Watch part 2 of this conversation on the market landscapeLearn about PlatformX, DX’s product mentioned in the conversationTime Stamps:(3...2024-04-1036 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi Noda10 years of driving developer productivity at Yelp | Kent Wills (Yelp)Click here to listen to the episode transcript.
On this week's episode, Abi interviews Kent Wills, Director of Engineering Effectiveness at Yelp. He shares insights into the evolution of their developer productivity efforts over the past decade. From tackling challenges with their monolithic architecture to scaling productivity initiatives for over 1,300 developers. Kent also touches on his experience in building a business case for developer productivity.Discussion points:(1:42) Forming the developer productivity team(3:25) Naming the team engineering effectiveness(4:30) Getting leadership buy-in for focusing on this work(7:54) Managing code ownership in Yelp’s monolith(12:23) Supporting the...2024-03-2645 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaA deep-dive on the Thoughtworks Tech Radar | Rebecca Parsons, Camilla Crispim, Erik Dörnenburg (Thoughtworks)In this episode, Abi has a fascinating conversation with Rebecca Parsons, ThoughtWorks's CTO, Camilla Crispim, and Erik Dörnenburg on the ThoughtWorks Tech Radar. The trio begins with an overview of Tech Radar and its history before delving into the intricate process of creating each report involving multiple teams and stakeholders. The conversation concludes with a focus on the evolution of Tech Radar's design and process and potential future changes. This episode offers Tech Radar fans an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at its history and production.Discussion points:1:20-An introduction to the Tech Radar6:06...2024-02-1345 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaMeasuring and rolling out AI coding assistants | Eirini Kalliamvakou (GitHub)This week's guest is Eirini Kalliamvakou, a staff researcher at GitHub focused on AI and developer experience. Eirini sits at the forefront of research into GitHub Copilot. Abi and Eirini discuss recent research on how AI coding assistance impacts developer productivity. They talk about how leaders should build business cases for AI tools. They also preview what's to come with AI tools and implications for how developer productivity is measured.Discussion points:(1:49) Overview of GitHub’s research on AI(2:59) The research study on Copilot(4:48) Defining and measuring productivity for this study(7:44) Exact measures and factors st...2024-01-3147 min
Tech Lead Journal[Best of 2023] #134 - A Developer-Centric Approach to Measuring and Improving Productivity - Margaret-Anne Storey & Abi Noda“The three core dimensions of developer experience are feedback loops, cognitive load, and flow state."
Today's clip is from Tech Lead Journal episode 134 with Margaret-Anne (Peggy) Storey and Abi Noda, the coauthors of the ACM paper “DevEx: What Actually Drives Productivity”.
In this clip, they shared their view on the well-known SPACE and DORA metrics, and pointed out the danger of misusing and abusing the DORA metrics. Peggy and Abi then explained the three core dimensions of developer experience from their latest paper, which are feedback loops, cognitive load, and flow state.
Listen out fo...2024-01-1120 min
Tech Lead Journal[Best of 2023] #112 - Developer Productivity and Experience - Abi Noda“Developer experience is an approach to thinking about engineering excellence and maximizing engineering performance by increasing the capacity and performance of the individuals and the team as a whole."
Today's clip is from Tech Lead Journal episode 112 with Abi Noda, the CEO & co-founder of DX.
In this clip, Abi shared what developer experience is, why it is becoming an industry trend nowadays, and the different ways of how it is being implemented in the industry. Abi explained why the traditional metrics normally used to measure developer productivity do not really work and can even provide pe...2024-01-0818 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaLeading a DevEx team through transformation | Ana Petkovska (Nexthink)In this episode, Abi speaks with Ana Petkovska, who is currently leading the developer experience team at Nexthink. Ana takes us through her journey of leading a DevOps team that underwent multiple transformations. She explains how her team went from being a DevOps team to EngProd and eventually DevEx. Ana elaborates on her team's challenges and the reasons behind the shift in focus. She also shares how she discovered EngProd and used data from companies like Google to convince her company to invest in EngProd. Finally, Ana explains how DevEx came into the picture and changed how her team...2023-12-1326 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaHow LinkedIn defines and tracks key developer productivity metrics | Grant Jenks (LinkedIn)In this episode, Abi chats with Grant Jenks, Senior Staff SWE, Engineering Insights @ LinkedIn. They dive into LinkedIn's developer insights platform, iHub, and its backstory. The conversation covers qualitative versus quantitative metrics, sharing concerns about these terms and exploring their correlation. The episode wraps up with technical topics like winsorized means, thoughts on composite scores, and ways AI can benefit developer productivity teams.(1:10) Insights in the productivity space(7:13) LinkedIn's metrics platform, iHub(12:52) Making metrics actionable(15:35) Choosing the right and wrong metrics(19:39) The difficulty of answering simple questions(26:23) Top-down vs. bottom-up approach to...2023-12-0652 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaBuilding an internal developer platform at CVS Health | Jim Beyers (CVS Health)This week's episode is with Jim Beyers, VP of Engineering Enablement at CVS Health. Jim joined CVS a year ago to lead an effort to build an internal developer platform. Abi and Jim discuss how Jim joined CVS to build an internal developer platform, what brought him to the job, and how the developer experience fits into the broader transformation goals of CVS. Additionally, this episode covers building the team, defining a strategy, and how he's thinking about winning the hearts and minds across his organization.Discussion points:(1:15) How Jim was brought into...2023-11-2231 min
Codurance TalksDeveloper Experience with Abi NodaJoin us on this talk with Abi Noda, Co-Founder at DX, a developer insights platform designed with the purpose of providing both the qualitative and quantitative data necessary to improve developers productivity levels within an organisation.
In this session, Abi discusses the growing relevance of DevEx, explores its fundamental components, outlines the advantages it offers, and addresses the primary challenges associated with its implementation in different organisations.
2023-10-2451 min
alphalist.CTO Podcast - For CTOs and Technical Leaders#84 - Abi Noda // Co-Creator of the DevEx Metrics FrameworkDX: The Developer Metrics that Unlock Developer Productivity
Find out the best way to measure Developer Experience 🧑💻in a way that truly enables ⚡ your developers (i.e. Developer Productivity) in this CTO podcast with Abi Noda - co-creator of the DevEx Framework and founder of Pull Panda. For years Abi has been on a quest to discover what developer metrics are the key to happier and more productive developers. He tried PR Analytics (he created Pull Panda🐼 - acquired by GitHub) and DORA, before teaming up with other Developer Productivity researchers 🧑🔬 to create a new framework which focuses on improving developer e...2023-09-0751 min
cloud2030LLMs adding to Technical Debt? Maintenance?What is technical debt, and how does it apply to large language models? We dive into a really interesting conversation that goes from technical debt into system and code maintenance, which is probably a much better way to think about the challenges we have in maintaining the infrastructure systems, code, data and data lakes that we have to deal with on an everyday basis.
How do we maintain, store, track and update the LLMs themselves? How do we know and manage which model is being used when we retire a model?
References:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-google-measures-manages-tech-debt-abi-noda/
https://devops...2023-08-2648 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaLeading platform engineering at Trivago | Thomas Khalil (Trivago)Thomas Khalil, Head of Platform and SRE at Trivago, describes how the teams reporting into him are structured, the tactics they’re using to increase awareness of their work, and how they demonstrate their impact. Discussion points: (1:17) The pillars of the Central Platform organization(2:18) The organization’s focus on time to market and efficiency(3:09) The differences in developer experience between teams(4:37) Deciding whether to consolidate services(5:57) How platform, developer experience, observability, and SRE teams interact(8:40) How these problems were being tackled previously (10:09) A failed attempt at rolling out Backstage (13:48) How SRE squads are organize...2023-08-2230 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaEnabling teams to drive their own productivity improvements | Jenny McClain (Toast)This week’s guest is Jenny McClain, who leads R&D Team Enablement at Toast. Jenny’s team focuses on enabling individual teams at Toast to drive their own productivity improvements, and this conversation dives into how they tackle this problem. Discussion points: (1:19) How the R&D Enablement team works(2:50) Why the team was formed(4:31) The types of work the team focuses on(7:31) Identifying the problems this team would solve(11:23) How team embeds work(17:19) The learning resources the team develops and maintains(20:55) Who creates and maintains the learning resources(23:10) How enablement stays connected with teams at scale...2023-08-1643 min
Changelog InterviewsDX on DXThis week Adam is joined by Abi Noda, founder and CEO of DX to talk about DX AKA DevEx (or the long-form Developer Experience). Since the dawn of software development there has been this push to understand what makes software teams efficient, but more importantly what does it take to understand developer productivity? That’s what Abi has been focused on for the better part of the last 8 years of his career. He started a company called Pull Panda that was acquired by GitHub, spent a few years there on this problem before going out on his own to st...2023-08-031h 37Changelog Master FeedDX on DX (Changelog Interviews #551)This week Adam is joined by Abi Noda, founder and CEO of DX to talk about DX AKA DevEx (or the long-form Developer Experience). Since the dawn of software development there has been this push to understand what makes software teams efficient, but more importantly what does it take to understand developer productivity? That’s what Abi has been focused on for the better part of the last 8 years of his career. He started a company called Pull Panda that was acquired by GitHub, spent a few years there on this problem before going out on his own to st...2023-08-031h 36The Changelog: Software Development, Open SourceDX on DX (Interview)This week Adam is joined by Abi Noda, founder and CEO of DX to talk about DX AKA DevEx (or the long-form Developer Experience). Since the dawn of software development there has been this push to understand what makes software teams efficient, but more importantly what does it take to understand developer productivity? That’s what Abi has been focused on for the better part of the last 8 years of his career. He started a company called Pull Panda that was acquired by GitHub, spent a few years there on this problem before going out on his own to st...2023-08-031h 37
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaHow Google measures developer productivity | Ciera Jaspan, Collin Green (Google)This week we’re joined by Ciera Jaspan and Collin Green, who lead the Engineering Productivity Research team at Google. Ciera and Collin have written several papers from studies they’ve conducted, and this discussion covers the insights from their research as well as their work more broadly at Google. Discussion points:(1:19) About the Engineering Productivity Research team(3:57) How the team interacts with the rest of the organization(5:58) The different backgrounds included on the team(13:11) How Google measures developer productivity(18:54) Evaluating discrepancies between qualitative and quantitative data (28:40) Google’s quarterly developer survey(32:02) Distributing survey results back to the o...2023-08-021h 14
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaA customer service approach to improving DevEx | Jason Kennedy (One Medical)This week we’re joined by Jason Kennedy, Senior Engineering Manager of Developer Experience at One Medical. Jason’s team takes a uniquely customer-driven approach to improving the developer experience, and in this episode he describes their philosophy and how it works in practice. Jason explains how they shadow developers, how they run surveys, and more. Discussion points:(1:02) Renaming from Engineering Efficiency to Engineering Experience(4:17) How Platform and DevEx teams differ (5:38) How One Medical’s approach to customer experience inspires this team’s work(7:01) Mapping out the developer journey(11:14) Jason’s career transition from VPE to a line mana...2023-07-1244 min
Software Engineering UnlockedMeasuring and improving developer experienceMake code reviews your superpower at awesomecodereviews.com!Episode Resources:Paper on improving developer experienceAbi's thoughts on the DX paperAbi Noda's LinkedInAbi's podcast for Engineering Enablement leadersAbout Abi NodaAbi Noda is the CEO and founder of DX, a company that helps measure and improve developer experience.
2023-06-2344 min
The Pod Presents: Primarily Context-BasedEp - 26 - Should I be using the SPACE framework? feat. Abi Noda (CEO and Co-Founder at DX)Hywel is joined by Abi Noda - a programmer, researcher, and entrepreneur focused on helping leaders measure and improve developer productivity. Abi is currently the CEO and Co-Founder of DX, a platform that helps organisations improve the productivity of their developers.
In addition to DX, Abi runs the Engineering Enablement newsletter and podcast which cover the latest research and perspectives on developer productivity. Prior to DX, Abi held CTO roles at several companies and was the founder and CEO of Pull Panda, which was acquired by GitHub in 2019.
In this episode, Abi talks about the...2023-06-2042 min
Software at ScaleSoftware at Scale 58 - Measuring Developer Productivity with Abi NodaAbi Noda is the CEO and co-founder of DX, a developer productivity platform.Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google PodcastsMy view on developer experience and productivity measurement aligns extremely closely with DX’s view. The productivity of a group of engineers cannot be measured by tools alone - there’s too many qualitative factors like cross-functional stakeholder beuracracy or inefficiency, and inherent domain/codebase complexity that cannot be measured by tools. At the same time, there are some metrics, like whether an engineer has committed any code-changes in their first week/month, that serve as useful guardrai...2023-06-1349 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaBehind the scenes with Extend’s developer experience team | Matthew Schrepel and Luke Patterson (Extend)Matthew and Luke lead Extend’s Developer Experience team, a team that has approached their work in a way that is more forward-thinking than most. In this episode, they cover how they deliver impact at multiple levels of the organization, their journey with productivity metrics, and how they’ve made DevEx a C-level concern. Discussion points:(1:40) How the DevEx team started and where it fits at Extend(5:08) Tradeoffs of DevEx reporting into Platform (6:40) The mandate and tasks they focus on(12:07) The impact of learning and development efforts(16:33) How to drive team-level improvements (18:44) Why develop...2023-06-1359 min
Chaos To ClarityHow to Fix Measurement of Developer Teams with Abi NodaToday joining Eric is Abi Noda, CEO & Co-Founder of DX - The developer insights platform designed by researchers.Abi was a developer for 6 years prior to moving into management and truly experiencing the friction between dev teams and management.The problem we discussed is that development teams and engineers are often measured on outdated and ineffective metrics that cause more harm than good.That's why Abi is on a mission to optimise for the developer experience and help dev teams thrive.During this episode, a ton of insights were laid on...2023-06-0928 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaPlatform teams vs enabling teams | Manuel Pais (Team Topologies)Manuel Pais delves into one of the concepts covered in his book “Team Topologies”: platform and enabling work. Manuel shares how he views the strategy behind when and how to invest in platform or enabling work. This conversation also goes into each type of work in more detail, covering topics such as measuring cognitive load and where platform engineering may be heading in the future. (2:13) How enabling teams and platform teams are different (10:28) What it looks like for a team to own both platform and enabling work (17:04) How to deliver enabling work in an organization(22:28) Whether enabling teams should...2023-06-0753 minThe Engineering Leadership PodcastThe next evolution to measure & improve developer productivity & experience w/ Abi Noda #132Abi Noda, Co-founder & CEO @ DX returns to the show to discuss his latest research on measuring & improving developer productivity, and provides a practical, developer-focused framework to give you clear, actionable insights into what to measure and where to focus in order to improve developer productivity. Abi reveals the inspiration behind his whitepaper / research, elements of their new DevEx framework, and how eng leaders can implement it into their org’s practice in order to increase developer productivity. We also cover the evolution of measuring developer experience (including output metrics, DORA & SPACE frameworks) and the benefits / shortcomings of each approach. In...2023-05-3048 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaA close look at Peloton’s developer experience survey | Thansha Sadacharam (Peloton)Thansha Sadacharam, who leads Tech Learning and Insights at Peloton walks us through the journey of building the company’s developer experience survey. She shares what went into the survey’s design, rollout, and maintenance, as well as the different teams involved.Discussion points: (1:19) Where the idea for running a developer survey originated(6:36) Advice for other leaders getting buy-in for these initiatives(11:27) The first steps in designing the survey(18:21) How the survey incorporated benchmarking(20:30) Measuring developer satisfaction(22:37) Refining the question items (25:50) How long the survey was(26:50) What was involved in trimming the questions (29:28) Writing survey questio...2023-05-2458 min
Tech Lead Journal#134 - A Developer-Centric Approach to Measuring and Improving Productivity - Margaret-Anne Storey & Abi Noda“The three core dimensions of developer experience are feedback loops, cognitive load, and flow state."
Margaret-Anne (Peggy) Storey and Abi Noda are the coauthors of the recently published ACM paper “DevEx: What Actually Drives Productivity”. In this episode, we discussed how we can better measure and improve developer productivity using a developer-centric approach. Peggy and Abi first began by explaining the importance of socio-technical factors in software development. They also shared their view on the well-known SPACE and DORA metrics, and pointed out the danger of misusing and abusing the DORA metrics. Peggy and Abi then explained the th...2023-05-221h 06
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaA better way to measure developer productivity | A special episode with Laura Tacho and Abi NodaIn this episode, Abi is interviewed by Laura Tacho about the new paper he co-authored with Dr. Nicole Forsgren, Dr. Margaret-Anne Storey, and Dr. Michaela Greiler. Abi and Laura discuss the pitfalls of some of the common metrics organizations use, and how the new paper builds on prior frameworks such as DORA and SPACE to offer a new approach to measuring and improving developer productivity. Discussion topics:(2:20) Laura’s background(3:59) Laura’s view on git metrics(11:05) What developer experience (DevEx) is (14:37) How the authors came together for this paper (18:55) How DORA and SPACE are different(22:38) Limitations of DOR...2023-05-161h 08
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaThe developer experience of building a database | Tara Hernandez (MongoDB, Google)Tara Hernandez, the VP of Developer Productivity at MongoDB, joins the podcast to give an inside look at what the developer experience looks like at an organization that develops a database. Here, Tara shares what it looks like to develop, test, and release changes at MongoDB, while also providing insight into how the company invests in developer productivity more broadly. Discussion points: (0:57) What was going on at the time Tara joined (4:37) Tara’s perspective on the buzz of platform engineering(7:38) What’s involved in building and testing a database(10:11) The development environment at MongoDB(13:14) How testing works...2023-05-0239 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaHow teams use productivity metrics at LinkedIn | Max Kanat-Alexander (LinkedIn, Google)Max Kanat-Alexander, the Tech Lead for the Developer Productivity and Insights Team at LinkedIn, shares an inside look at LinkedIn’s metrics platform and how teams across the organization use it. Discussion points: (1:31) Why Max shares how his team is measuring productivity(3:20) Why some teams use metrics and some don’t (6:03) The types of metrics Max’s team focuses on(12:59) The role of TPMs(17:05) How Max would measure productivity if he weren’t at LinkedIn(25:04) Surprises in how teams are using metrics at LinkedIn(31:27) The tooling required to enable metrics for teams to use(36:41) Qualitative versus quantitati...2023-04-2653 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaInside Etsy’s multi-year DevEx initiative | Mike Fisher (Etsy, PayPal)Mike Fisher, the former CTO at Etsy, spearheaded a multi-year developer experience initiative aimed at improving developer happiness and efficiency during his time at Etsy. Here, he shares the story of that initiative, including the pillars of the program and the investment that went into it. Towards the end of the conversation, Mike also shares his perspective on measuring developer productivity. Discussion points:(1:31) What was happening at Etsy when Mike joined (4:08) The scaling challenges Etsy faced(6:08) Deciding on the term “developer experience” (9:35) Whether developer experience is a new approach(11:24) The pillars of Etsy’s DevEx initiative (15:49) Convertin...2023-04-1952 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaImplementing a developer portal | Karl Haworth (American Airlines)Karl’s team at American Airlines were early adopters of Backstage, and in this episode he shares their journey of implementing and rolling out a developer portal. He also describes two of the extensions his team has built for their portal. Discussion points:(1:24) Where the idea of building a developer portal came from(7:24) What the developer experience looked like before the portal (10:41) Initiating the project(14:16) The decision to choose Backstage (16:28) The V1 scope for the portal (19:14) Getting adoption for the portal(23:35) Defining success for the portal’s adoption (28:04) The ideal state for how developers will use the port...2023-04-0554 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaBringing the product management discipline to platform teams | Russ Nealis (Plaid)As product lead, Russ Nealis has been focused on introducing the discipline of product management in the Developer Foundations organization. This episode discusses the reasons why PMs are currently uncommon in platform organizations, examples of when having a PM has been helpful, and more. Discussion points:(1:23) Russ’s role at Plaid (2:49) Why platform product managers are uncommon(3:28) Backgrounds to look for when hiring a platform PM(4:58) Deciding whether to hire a platform PM(6:20) Signs that bringing in a Product Manager would be beneficial(9:16) How Russ personally became a platform PM(12:15) Whether a platform PM is a car...2023-03-2945 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaIntercom’s approach to a great on-call experience | Brian Scanlan (Intercom)In this deep-dive episode, Brian Scanlan, Principal Systems Engineer at Intercom, describes how the company’s on-call process works. He explains how the process started and key changes they’ve made over the years, including a new volunteer model, changes to compensation, and more.Discussion points:(1:28) How on-call started at Intercom(10:11) Brian’s background and interest in being on-call(14:06) Getting engineers motivated to be on-call (16:37) Challenges Intercom saw with on-call as it grew(19:53) Having too many people on-call(23:20) Having alarms that aren’t useful (26:03) Recognizing uneven workload with compensation(27:22) Initiating changes to the on-call process (30:08) Creating a volunteer...2023-03-081h 10
Runtime Rundown - JavaScript and Web DevelopmentThe One About DORA MetricsIn this speedy episode we cover "How to Misuse & Abuse DORA Metrics" by Abi Noda, with a little flavor added by "How DORA Metrics Can Measure and Improve Performance".
We talk about how DORA metrics can help and hurt you, the trap of "vanity metrics", and why metrics should be tied to tangible goals to really matter.
Joe gives two shoutouts to friends of the show, Evan's dogs interrupt his learning, and an owl has escaped the central park zoo! 2023-02-1739 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaHow Instagram Reels manages reliability | Jack Li (Instagram, Shopify)Jack Li explains how his production engineering team rolled out a new incident review process, how they’ve made the case for investing in reliability, and specific tools his team has built to improve reliability.—Discussion points:(1:25) How Jack became interested in reliability (3:24) Where the Instagram Reels team fits into the broader organization(4:05) What Jack’s team focuses on(4:55) The role of production engineering at Instagram versus Shopify (8:32) The essence of DevOps(10:44) Pros and cons of having product-focused teams(13:35) How Jack’s team defines and tracks quality(15:46) Signals the team monitors outside of systems (1...2023-02-1656 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaA masterclass on DORA – research program, common pitfalls, and future direction | Nathen Harvey (Google)Nathen Harvey, who leads DORA at Google, explains what DORA is, how it has evolved in recent years, the common challenges companies face as they adopt DORA metrics, and where the program may be heading in the future.—Discussion points:(1:48) What DORA is today and how it exists within Google(3:37) The vision for Google and DORA coming together(5:20) How the DORA research program works(7:53) Who participates in the DORA survey(9:28) How the industry benchmarks are identified (11:05) How the reports have evo...2023-01-2554 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaAn inside look at the SPACE framework | Dr. Margaret-Anne Storey (co-author, SPACE)This week's guest is Dr. Margaret-Anne Storey, who goes by the name Peggy. Peggy is a professor of Computer Science at the University of Victoria, the Chief Scientist at DX, and co-author of the SPACE Framework, which is the topic of focus in this episode. Today’s conversation discusses what the SPACE framework is and what went into developing the metrics and categories. Peggy also shares where she sees this line of research heading next. —Discussion points: (1:29) Peggy’s background (4:01) What the SPACE framework is (5:55) Why the researchers came together for this p...2023-01-1837 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaSpotify’s failed #SquadGoals | Jeremiah Lee (Spotify, Stripe)This week’s guest is Jeremiah Lee, who was previously a manager at Stripe and product manager at Spotify. This conversation focuses on org structure, and specifically Jeremiah’s experience with the popular squad model from Spotify. Jeremiah provides the backstory on where the model came from, what parts of the model were a challenge, and advice for leaders either already adopting the model or considering doing so. Discussion points:(1:40) What the Spotify model is(4:39) Jeremiah’s impression of the Spotify model as he joined the company(7:29) Spotify’s progress in adopting...2023-01-1143 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaHow much to invest in platform work | Jean-Michel Lemieux (Shopify, Atlassian)Jean-Michel Lemieux, former CTO of Shopify and VP of Engineering at Atlassian, explains how to advocate for investing in platform work, which projects to fund, and what distinguishes a great platform leader. —Discussion points:(1:38) Jean-Michel’s definition of platform work (6:44) Why reliability, performance, and stability do fall within platform work (7:24) The consequences of lacking a product mindset in platform(9:20) Why and how to advocate for investing 50% of R&D spend in platform work (12:31) How Jean-Michel arrived at 50% as the percentage of R&D spend...2023-01-0452 minThe Engineering Leadership PodcastEngineering Founder’s Takeover: Top-down / Bottoms-up sales strategy, pricing, and enterprise product adoption w/ Abi Noda #110This is a special episode from our new show “Engineering Founders” - Should you build B2C or B2B? What about implementing a top-down or a bottoms up sales strategy? How do you think about pricing? These are many of the dilemmas early founders face in the early stages. We sit down with Abi Noda to explore his experiences co-founding DX and Pull Panda and examine the differences, trade-offs and considerations behind building for consumer vs. B2B, pricing, early sales and product adoption strategies! For more episodes of Engineering Founders, subscribe here: https://engineering-founders.simplecast.com/P...2022-12-2050 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaPrinciples for driving adoption and platform team growth | Jonathan Biddle (Wayfair)Jonathan Biddle, Director of Engineering Effectiveness at Wayfair, shares the story of how his team found repeat success and subsequently grew in size and scope. He shares lessons they’ve borrowed from startups, including understanding the adoption curve and knowing your core users, and offers advice for other platform teams looking to move to the next stage. —Discussion points:(01:15) How Jonathan moved into his role(05:30) Why Platforms teams are in a position of leverage, but also ambiguity(07:18) The initial work Jonathan’s team focused on(10:07) Creating transactional versus recurr...2022-12-2050 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaLeading infrastructure change at scale | Ian White (DAT)Ian White, Director of Platform Engineering at DAT, joined the company to scale their Kubernetes-based cloud infrastructure, which has come under stress as their business has grown over the past couple years. Here he shares how he partnered with developers to learn about their challenges, how we conveyed a vision for how the company needed to evolve, and how he’s been working with development teams and business stakeholders to successfully drive change.—(01:00) - The challenges DAT was facing as Ian joined (05:13) - How Ian used customer interviews to understand problems(10:48) - The...2022-12-1450 min
Engineering Culture by InfoQDeveloper Experience is a Critical Issue for Organisations TodayIn this podcast Shane Hastie, Lead Editor for Culture & Methods spoke to Abi Noda about the costs of poor developer experience, why it is a crucial issue for organisations to address, a framework for assessing developer experience and ways it can be improved.
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...2022-12-1122 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaPositioning platform work in a down market | Brian Guthrie (Orgspace, Meetup)Brian Guthrie, co-founder and CTO at Orgspace and former VP of Engineering at Meetup, has the unique experience of having previously decommissioned his Platform team. In this episode, Brian talks about that story openly, and shares advice for Platform teams to make sure they’re well positioned within their organizations. Discussion points:Brian’s background and story at Meetup - [00:02:20]Brian’s perspective on Platform work, generally - [00:06:40]The conversation around dissolving the Platform group - [00:12:05]Advice for Platform groups positioning their teams - [00:16:55]Making sure Platform groups are focused on the right problems [00:21:21]How Platform groups...2022-12-0734 minRuntime Rundown - JavaScript and Web DevelopmentThe One About Tech DebtIn this episode, we cover "Addressing Tech Debt" by Abi Noda. This article is a summary of a much larger paper on the common bottlenecks of scaling up engineering orgs.
Joe and Evan politely disagree on something, Evan yells at Typescript again, and we have literally no good news. Also, robots are going to kill us all (thanks San Francisco).
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Music by Hina and Kevin MacLeod2022-12-0258 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaA deep-dive on real-time feedback and personalized surveys | Max Kanat-Alexander, Or Michael Berlowitz (LinkedIn)Max Kanat-Alexander and Or Michael Berlowitz (Berlo), share how they gather both periodic and real-time feedback from developers.Discussion points:Overview of the listening channels used by Max and Berlo’s team - [00:00:58]Origin story of the Developer Engagement and Insights team - [00:02:49]Perspectives on volume metrics - [00:05:00]How the periodic surveys work - [00:08:51]Investment required to build the periodic surveys and real-time feedback - [00:14:20]How results are handled - [00:15:28]How the real-time feedback tool works - [00:21:40]Where the idea for the real-time feedback tool came from - [00:25:15]Building an MVP for the real-time feedback tool...2022-11-3046 min
Engineering FoundersTop-down / Bottoms-up sales strategy, pricing, and enterprise product adoption w/ Abi NodaShould I build B2C or B2B? Should we implement top-down or a bottoms up sales strategy? How do we think about pricing? These are many of the dilemmas early founders face in the early stages. We sit down with Abi Noda to explore his experiences co-founding DX and Pull Panda and examine the differences, trade-offs and considerations behind building for consumer vs. B2B, pricing, early sales and product adoption strategies!ABOUT ABI NODAAbi Noda is the CEO and co-founder of DX, the world's first developer experience management platform. He was previously...2022-11-1749 min
Tech Lead Journal#112 - Developer Productivity and Experience - Abi Noda“Developer experience is an approach to thinking about engineering excellence and maximizing engineering performance by increasing the capacity and performance of the individuals and the team as a whole."
Abi Noda is the CEO & co-founder of DX. In this episode, Abi started by sharing what developer experience is, why it is becoming an industry trend nowadays, and the different ways of how it is being implemented in the industry. Abi explained why the traditional metrics normally used to measure developer productivity do not really work and can even provide perverse incentives. Abi then touched on the two po...2022-11-0752 min
Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaHow to define your team's scope and charter | Mark Côté (Shopify)Mark Côté, Director of Engineering of Developer Infrastructure at Shopify, explains an exercise the Infrastructure group went through to define their boundaries of work. He shares their areas of focus, the team’s guiding principles, how they use their developer happiness survey to decide what to prioritize, and more. —Discussion points: (0:48) Mark's background(1:43) How the Developer Acceleration org is structured(4:43) The Infrastructure team's chart(5:35) Three opportunities for impact(7:49) Identifying the opportunities for impact(10:51) Why they created a charter(17:34) Infrastructure's guiding princi...2022-10-2645 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaDropbox's journey with developer productivity metrics | Utsav Shah (Vanta, Dropbox)Utsav Shah, who leads Platform at Vanta and previously led Developer Effectiveness at Dropbox, shares the story of Dropbox’s journey with measuring developer productivity. Utsav discusses what he learned about both system and survey-based measures, his opinion on the usefulness of common Git metrics, and more. 2022-10-1244 minRuntime Rundown - JavaScript and Web DevelopmentThe One About Years of ExperienceIn this episode, we do some serious science stuff! Well not exactly. We read an article called "Does Experience Matter" where Abi Noda breaks down a new scientific study on what makes an effective programmer. If you want to dive into the study yourself, check it out here.
We talk about how you can’t go wrong with mentorship, code review, tests, and learning. We dump on typescript for a while, and Evan talks about hating cats.
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Music by Hina...2022-10-071h 04Engineering Enablement by Abi NodaUsing customer interviews to inform your roadmap | Michael Galloway (Doma, Netflix)Michael Galloway (Doma and ex-Netflix) describes his process for interviewing developers to understand where his team should focus. He also explains how he thinks about the strategic value of a Platform team. Resources mentioned: Customer Interview GuideCustomer Interview Questions2022-10-0543 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaEstablishing a DevEx team in a high-growth company | Willie Yao (Notion, Airbnb)In this episode, Willie Yao, Head of Infrastructure at Notion and former Head of Developer Infrastructure at Airbnb, provides a unique perspective on how Developer Experience teams work in hypergrowth companies. He shares how Airbnb developed a customer-first mindset internally, what it took to get Airbnb’s leadership invested in that effort, and how he’s approaching DevEx at Notion today. 2022-09-2846 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaA model for managing requests and complaints from developers | Jasmine James (Twitter)Twitter’s Developer Experience team is more mature than most. Here, Jasmine James, a Senior Engineering Manager - Developer Experience, explains how her team manages support requests, why they consider personas as part of their prioritization, and how they present the ROI of the team’s work. 2022-09-1328 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaFrom DORA to SPACE to DX - A Fireside Chat with Nicole ForsgrenIn this special episode, Dr. Nicole Forsgren, author of award-winning book Accelerate and co-author of "The SPACE of Developer Productivity", talks about her work with DORA, the inspiration behind the SPACE framework, and how she's thinking about developer experience.Watch the on-demand fireside chat or read the announcement of Nicole joining DX as a strategic advisor. 2022-09-0131 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaThe people side of engineering and an open conversation about Agile | Brent Strange (GoDaddy)Brent Strange, Director of Engineering Excellence at GoDaddy, has a unique perspective on the role of an internal enablement team because he focuses more on the people and processes instead of tooling. Here he shares his perspective on org structure, as well as the role of agile coaches and his response to some of the negative views that exist towards Agile. 2022-08-2532 min
DevXPodMeasuring and improving developer productivity w/ Abi Noda from GetDXWe're your hosts (Christian Weichel and Pauline Narvas) 👋In today's episode, we're joined by Abi Noda, CEO of GetDX where we talk about how we measure developer productivity.Note: there are issues with the audio from Chris' side! Hopefully, this doesn't sound too bad, feel free to also follow along using the transcript.The hosts ▻Christian Weichel, Chief Technology Officer at GitpodPauline Narvas, Head of Community at Gitpod Our guest ▻Abi NodaTwitterLinkedInThings men...2022-08-1739 min
Software Engineering Radio - the podcast for professional software developersEpisode 524: Abi Noda on Developer ExperienceIn this episode, Abi Noda, founder of Pull Panda and DX, discusses developer experience with SE Radio host Brijesh Ammanath. They examine the basic concept of DX and its importance before diving into a wide variety of issues, including methodologies...2022-08-1157 minSoftware Engineering Radio - The Podcast for Professional Software DevelopersEpisode 524: Abi Noda on Developer ExperienceIn this episode, Abi Noda, founder of Pull Panda and DX, discusses developer experience with SE Radio host Brijesh Ammanath. They examine the basic concept of DX and its importance before diving into a wide variety of issues, including methodologies...2022-08-1157 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaMoving Slack's development experience to remote environments | Sylvestor George (Slack)Sylvestor George (Staff Software Engineer on Slack’s Internal Tools Team) led a project to move the entire development experience to remote environments, which was widely regarded as a “dramatically better experience”. Here he shares the full story of that project, including how they identified the problem, the solution they created, and how they convinced engineers to adopt the new workflow. 2022-08-1137 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaSnyk’s journey with developer experience and productivity | Crystal Hirschorn (Snyk)In this episode Abi Noda is joined by Crystal Hirschorn, who leads Platform Infrastructure, SRE, and Developer Experience at Snyk. In their conversation, Crystal shares the story behind the recently founded Developer experience group, including why they named the team Developer Experience, how she calculates the cost of the problems they solve, and how they partner with engineering teams.2022-08-0433 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaSupporting 100,000 engineers | Max Pugliese (IBM)Max Pugliese, formerly the Director of Developer Experience at IBM, offers a look at what it’s like to support tens of thousands of engineers. He explains why it’s important to think about the culture and processes surrounding the tooling changes a team tries to implement, how to stay close to developers, and more. 2022-07-2831 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaThe value of having a PM on a platform team | Jelmer Borst (Picnic Technologies)In this episode Abi speaks with Jelmer Borst, Product Manager for Picnic Technologies’ Platform group. Jelmer explains what the value is of having a PM in an internal-facing team, and shares his process for gathering feedback from developers to understand where they’re experiencing friction.2022-07-1434 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaCommon pitfalls in adopting engineering metrics | Mojtaba Hosseini (Zapier)In this interview, Mojtaba Hosseini (Director of Engineering at Zapier) talks about how to approach using metrics, pitfalls teams run into, and the common evolution teams go through as they adopt metrics.2022-07-0646 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaAdvocating for the voice of the developer | Julio Santana (Workday)Julio Santana from Workday shares how he thinks about the ideal scope of a Developer Experience team, getting buy-in for DX initiatives, how his team gathers feedback from developers, and more. 2022-06-2939 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaWhy founding a DevEx team is like starting a startup | Minh Pham, Titus Stone (Ibotta)In this episode we’re joined by Minh Pham and Titus Stone from Ibotta’s Developer Experience team. You’ll hear their story about how the DX team came into existence, why they view a DX team as a “startup within a startup”, and their vision for what DX at Ibotta will become.2022-06-2339 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaThe ultimate guide on Engineering Operations | Ryan Atkins (Asana, Stripe, Dropbox)In this episode Abi Noda speaks with Ryan Atkins, Asana’s Head of Engineering Operations. They talk about the role of EngOps and when it’s needed, founding an EngOps team, how these teams work in large companies, and more. 2022-06-1746 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaStaffing infrastructure teams | Will Larson (Calm, Stripe, Uber)Will Larson, the CTO at Calm, covers a wide range of topics including whether Infrastructure Engineering is chronically understaffed, the role of Eng Ops, how his opinion on the “build vs buy” question has changed, his thoughts on metrics, and more. Helpful resources:Will's Infraeng bookWill's article, Infrastructure planningWill's article, How to invest in infrastructure2022-06-0840 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaSupporting autonomous teams | Victoria Morgan-Smith (Financial Times)Joining us for this episode is Victoria Morgan-Smith, the Director of Delivery for Engineering Enablement at the Financial Times. Victoria shares some of the tradeoffs in having an autonomous, “you build it, you run it” culture. She also shares how her group equips engineering teams with metrics, best practices, and more.Follow Victoria on LinkedIn2022-05-2635 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaWhat it looks like to hire Engineering Effectiveness too late | Peter Seibel (ex-Twitter)In this episode Abi talks with Peter Seibel. Peter previously was the Director of Engineering for the Democratic National Committee, and before that led Twitter’s Engineering Effectiveness (EE) team. In this interview, Peter reflects on his experience at Twitter, sharing why it’s better to invest in EE early and his vision for how EE teams can fulfill their potential. Useful links:Follow Peter on Twitter and LinkedInRead Peter's post about leading Engineering Effectiveness at Twitter: Let a 1,000 Flowers Bloom. Then Rip 999 of Them Out by the Roots 2022-05-1238 minEngineering Enablement by Abi NodaTactics for driving service adoption | Varun Achar (Razorpay)In this episode, Varun Achar (Director of Engineering at Razorpay) explains how the Platform org has grown from a 15-person team owning everything, to 3 separate subteams. He also shares how they think about creating a culture of productivity, and some of the tactics they’ve used for increasing service adoption.Helpful links: Connect with Varun on LinkedInRead Varun's blog post, The Platform Engineer2022-05-0536 min
Meat & Potatoes PodcastM&P Ep. 138: Abi Noda, CEO & Cofounder of DXIn this podcast, we are joined by Abi Noda, Co-Founder and CEO of DX. The team at DX works primarily with developer productivity teams to measure the productivity of engineers and developers, helping them in the art of software engineering. Listen to hear Abi’s personal journey, including the founding of multiple companies and seeing DX grow as the world’s first developer experience management platform.2022-04-2831 min