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FinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionHow Curiosity & Automation Power Success ft. Ron Stein, ZS | FinOps in Action | Ep 16How can dashboards, automation & collaboration advance FinOps maturity in the enterprise?In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Ron Stein, IT Manager of Cloud FinOps at ZS, to explore how data empowerment, automation, and strategic tooling can elevate FinOps practices across an organization.Ron shares his unconventional path from radio DJ and commercial photographer to FinOps leader, and breaks down the priorities that matter most to FinOps teams today—including transparency, stakeholder enablement, and cloud cost accountability.We cover key topics including:Why Power BI was chosen to bu...2025-05-0724 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionChargeback & FinOps Culture ft. Polly Fabry & Prasshant Sharrma, Sysco | FinOps in Action | Ep 15How can cultural shifts, executive alignment, and chargeback models elevate FinOps success?In this episode of FinOps in Action, we welcome two industry leaders—Polly Fabry, Senior Director of Enterprise Architecture & Strategy, and Prasshant Sharrma, Global FinOps Lead at Sysco—as they share powerful strategies for transforming cloud financial operations at scale.Together, Polly and Prasshant dive deep into the practical tactics they use to optimize cloud costs, foster financial accountability, and promote cross-functional transparency within their organizations.In this insightful conversation, we explore key topics including:How to drive cultural shif...2025-04-3037 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionAligning Product & FinOps for Success ft. Ashley Hromatko, Corteva | FinOps in Action | Ep 14How can strategic FinOps leadership drive product-centric optimization in enterprise organizations?In this episode of FinOps in Action, I’m joined by Ashley Hromatko—one of the original trailblazers in the FinOps space. From building one of the first and largest FinOps teams at Pearson to her influential work at the FinOps Foundation, Ashley has been at the forefront of redefining cloud financial operations. Now serving as the FinOps product lead at Corteva, she brings a wealth of experience in aligning FinOps with product strategy.Ashley shares deep insights into what today’s FinOps leader...2025-04-2333 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionHow Curiosity & Automation Power Success ft. Mike Routier, Choice Hotels | FinOps in Action | Ep 13How Can Curiosity, Automation, and Team Culture Shape the Future of FinOps?In this episode of FinOps in Action, I’m joined by Mike Routier, Cloud FinOps Manager at Choice Hotels International, who brings over 20 years of experience and deep insights into building a sustainable and strategic FinOps practice within a large enterprise.Mike shares the key priorities for modern FinOps leaders—from staying curious in a fast-evolving cloud environment to building strong relationships with engineering teams and leveraging automation for greater strategic impact. He also highlights how fostering a supportive work culture and using KPIs...2025-04-1636 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionLeveraging FinOps for Massive Cloud Savings ft. Larry Advey, Twilio | FinOps in Action | Ep 12How Can FinOps Leadership Drive Multi-Million Dollar Savings and Optimize Cloud Costs?In this episode of FinOps in Action, I’m joined by Larry Advey, Senior Manager of FinOps at Twilio, who shares his expertise on managing complex cloud financial operations and saving over $70 million in just three years. Larry discusses the critical role of communication and collaboration in FinOps, emphasizing the need for alignment between leadership and engineering teams to drive both short-term and long-term cost savings.During our conversation, we cover key topics such as:How proactive communication between stakeholders can op...2025-04-0941 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionScaling Cloud with Proactive FinOps Strategies ft. Adnan Gul, S&P Global | FinOps in Action | Ep 11How Can Proactive FinOps and Cloud Strategy Drive Success in Large-Scale Organizations?In this episode of FinOps in Action, I’m joined by Adnan Gal, Director of Cloud and Platform Reliability Engineering at S&P Global, who shares his expert insights on the evolving role of FinOps in cloud engineering. Adnan highlights the importance of shifting from reactive to proactive FinOps, incorporating it from the design phase to achieve sustainable scaling. He dives into the key priorities for FinOps leaders, particularly in large organizations, and discusses the challenges of balancing cost management with security, governance, an...2025-04-0237 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionWaste Management & Business Value ft. Anderson Oliveira, Zephyr Globe | FinOps in Action | Ep 10How can cloud cost optimization, business value-driven FinOps strategies, and cultural transformation enhance financial operations in the cloud?In this episode, I’m joined by Anderson Oliveira, a seasoned FinOps consultant and the founder of Zephyr Globe, who shares his expertise on maximizing business value through cloud investments and optimizing FinOps. Anderson discusses the shift from a cost-saving mindset to a value-driven approach in cloud financial management and the strategies organizations can implement to drive efficiency.During our conversation, we dive into several key topics, including:The importance of focusing on business va...2025-03-2639 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionOptimize for Max Cloud Efficiency & Savings ft. Jason DiDomenico, Discover | FinOps in Action | Ep 9How can waste management, automation, and business value optimization drive success in FinOps?In this episode, I’m joined by Jason DiDomenico, Director of FinOps at Discover Financial Services, who shares his decade of experience in cloud financial management, IT leadership, solution architecture, and FinOps best practices. Jason emphasizes the importance of frugality and balancing cost savings with delivering maximum business value for end customers.During our conversation, we cover several key topics, including:Categorizing and automating waste cleanup to boost cloud efficiency and reduce unnecessary spending.Why FinOps optimization isn’t just about slas...2025-03-1934 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionHow Trust & Collaboration Can Optimize Cost ft. Angel Alves, Saint-Gobain | FinOps in Action | Ep 8How can human relationships, cloud cost optimization, and soft skills shape the future of FinOps practices?In this episode, I’m joined by Angel Alves, Senior Manager of Cloud FinOps at Saint-Gobain and FinOps Foundation Ambassador. Angel shares valuable insights into the importance of prioritizing human relationships in FinOps and how soft skills like communication and empathy can significantly enhance collaboration within teams and with cloud providers.We dive into several key topics, including:The role of soft skills in building trust and fostering effective relationships within FinOps teams.Practical strategies for engaging engineers an...2025-03-1238 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionHow to Drive Success Through Trust & Strategy ft. Chase Bennett, Comcast | FinOps in Action | Ep 7How Can Building Trust and Effective Cloud Strategy Shape FinOps Success?In this episode of FinOps in Action, I’m joined by Chase Bennett, the Director of Cloud FinOps and Capacity Management at Comcast, who shares his invaluable insights on the key priorities for FinOps practitioners in large organizations. Chase talks about his journey from consulting to FinOps, the challenges of working with multi-disciplinary teams, and how building trust and a strategic cloud cost management approach can truly shape an organization’s cloud strategy.During our conversation, we dive into several essential topics, incl...2025-03-0531 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionHow to Align Engineering with Business Value ft. Mike Rosenberg, Nubank | FinOps in Action | Ep 6How can cloud cost management, engineering culture, and business value alignment drive efficiency in organizations?In this episode, I’m joined by Mike Rosenberg, Senior Director of Engineering at Nubank, who shares his journey from software engineering to accounting and his approach to fostering efficiency in cloud cost management. Mike dives into the importance of educating engineers on business value and the strategies he uses to balance cost, business priorities, and cloud resources.During our conversation, we explore several key topics, including:The role of engineers in understanding business value and how it...2025-02-2629 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionHow to Optimize FinOps & Cut Costs Effectively! ft. Puja Kosarkar, Epsilon | FinOps in Action | Ep 5How can Six Sigma methodologies, cloud cost optimization, and continuous learning drive efficiency in FinOps practices across multi-cloud environments?In this episode, I’m joined by Puja Kosarkar, Director of Cloud FinOps at Epsilon, who shares her expertise on leveraging Six Sigma principles to streamline cloud financial operations (FinOps). Puja discusses how applying these methodologies can lead to significant cost savings, improved invoice validation, and enhanced efficiency within cloud environments.During our conversation, we dive into several key topics, including:How to optimize cloud costs through the elimination of wastage rather than focusing solely on...2025-02-1932 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionCloud Cost Optimization & Empathy ft. Hunter Harris, Pegasystems | FinOps in Action | Ep 4What does it take to optimize cloud costs while balancing the technical, financial, and human elements of FinOps?In this episode, I’m joined by Hunter Harris, Senior Manager of Cloud FinOps at Pegasystems. With a proven track record at companies like Pegasystems, Black Mountain Systems, and Outview Systems, Hunter shares his expertise on navigating the complex world of cloud cost optimization and FinOps.We dive into key topics, including:The importance of understanding cloud usage and optimizing costs with empathy.Strategic priorities for FinOps practitioners and balancing attention to detail with driving im...2025-02-1240 minA Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for FoundersA Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for FoundersHe exited for $335M—& felt "emptiness". So he quit, gave up millions in earnout, & grew to $1M ARR in 6 months. | Alon Arvatz, Founder of IntSights & PointFiveAlon was a hacker for the Israeli Defence Forces' cyber department. There he saw the most advanced methods used in cyber warfare. So when he left, he started IntSights-- a company that helped enterprises defend themselves from cyber attacks. He was a first-time founder who didn't even know the word 'unicorn'. He made all the mistakes you could make. But he had real, undeniable pull. He grew to $1M ARR in a year and to $4M a year later. By the end of it, he was doing $30M in revenue and exited for $335M.But...2025-02-1051 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionDriving Cost-Conscious Cloud Operations ft. Bindu Sharma, Teradata | FinOps in Action | Ep 3What does it take to drive a cost-conscious culture in cloud operations while aligning financial, technical, and business goals?In this episode, I’m joined by Bindu Sharma, Senior Director of Cloud Financial Operations at Teradata and a prominent advocate of FinOps. Bindu shares her expertise on navigating the challenges of cloud cost management and the critical role FinOps plays in aligning organizational goals with financial efficiency.We dive into key topics, including:The importance of aligning FinOps practices with business goals to drive organizational success.How to foster collaboration between engineers, stakeholders, and fi...2025-02-0536 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionCommunication and Cost Optimization in FinOps ft. Mike Graff, Dolby Labs | FinOps in Action | Ep 2What does it take to successfully manage cloud costs while aligning technical, financial, and business goals?In this episode, I’m joined by Mike Graff, an IT veteran with over 30 years of experience and the Infrastructure Architecture Director at Dolby Laboratories. Mike brings a wealth of knowledge on navigating the intersection of FinOps and engineering, offering unique insights into how to tackle the toughest challenges in cloud cost management.We dive into key topics, including:Why technical skills, business acumen, and communication are critical for FinOps success.The journey from tech to finance—how...2025-01-2940 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionMastering Data Visibility & Optimizing Spend ft. Dann Berg, Squarespace | FinOps in Action | Ep 1How can cloud cost management, data visibility, and collaboration drive success in FinOps across engineering, finance, and leadership teams?I’m joined by Dann Berg, a leading FinOps expert and Cloud FinOps Lead at Squarespace. With his diverse background in tech journalism and even co-authoring plays, Dann offers a fresh perspective on the rapidly evolving field of Cloud Financial Operations (FinOps).During our conversation, we dive into several key topics, including:The importance of data visibility for effective cost management across different teams—engineers, finance, and senior leadership.How to shorten feedback loops and make...2025-01-2238 minFinOps in ActionFinOps in ActionFinOps in Action Trailer!Welcome to FinOps in Action! Join host, Alon Arvatz, Each week, as he sits down with FinOps experts to explore the toughest challenges between FinOps and Engineering. This show is brought to you by PointFive - empowering teams to optimize cloud costs with deep detection and remediation tools that drive action.2025-01-1400 minThe Bearhug ExperienceThe Bearhug Experience(Funding Recap #32) Bearhug Recruiting's Early & Growth Stage Tech Startup Funding Recap! 11/18/24Here’s this week’s startup funding recap: 1. General Galactic, led by Halen Mattison, has raised an $8 million Seed funding round. General Galactic develops fossil-free fuel generation technology, transforming industrial CO2 waste streams into carbon-neutral natural gas. 2. Outbuild, led by Franco Giaquinto, has raised an $11 million Series A funding round. Outbuild provides scheduling and planning software for the construction industry, streamlining workflows with an integrated platform. 3. Vaulted Deep, led by Julia Reichelstein, has raised a $32.3 million Series A funding round. Vaulted Deep specializes in biomass carbon removal and storage (BiCRS), geologically sequestering organic wast...2024-11-1915 minFounder StoriezFounder StoriezThe $350 Million Pivot: Alon Arvatz on Cloud, Family, and Changing the World | Alon Arvatz CEO PointFiveIn this episode, we talk with Alon Arvatz, tech entrepreneur and author. Alon, founder of PointFive, a company that helps manage cloud costs, shares his experiences and ideas. What You'll Hear: 1. Alon's Journey: Learn how Alon sold his first company, Insight, for $350 million and why he started PointFive. 2. Making an Impact: Why it's important to do more than just make money in business. 3. Family Life: How Alon balances work with family and teaches his kids about money and helping others. 4. Business Lessons: Tips on hiring good people, working with inves...2024-10-081h 09Invested by AlephInvested by AlephAlon Arvatz on the Future of Israeli Cybersecurity, Exiting Multiple Companies, Leaving Money on the Table, and Making Financial Literacy AccessibleOn this episode of Invested, Michael hosts Alon Arvatz, the CEO & Co-founder of PointFive.PointFive is a leader in cloud cost management. Prior to that he co-founded IntSights, a cybersecurity and threat intelligence startup, and led it to a successful acquisition for $350M to Rapid7. He authored the book “The Battle for Your Computer” that depicts the success story of the Israeli cybersecurity industry. Alon is also involved in social impact, founding the non-profit "Kanfey Kesef" that promotes financial literacy.Please rate this episode 5 stars wherever you stream your podc...2024-08-2858 minThe Conference Room with Simon LaderThe Conference Room with Simon LaderEp. 141 - Scale to Exit - A Story from the Other Side of Success In this week's episode of The Conference Room, host Simon Lader sits down with Alon Arvatz, former co-founder of Insights, a cybersecurity vendor acquired by Rapid7 for $350 million. Alon shares his journey from childhood inspiration through his father's tech career to becoming a successful entrepreneur and investor in Israeli cybersecurity startups. He discusses the factors driving Israel's dominance in the cybersecurity industry, the challenges of starting and scaling a tech company, and the story behind the acquisition of Insights.      02:30 - Alon’s initial experiences with tech through his father's work.  03:5...2024-07-0135 minCode Story: Insights from Startup Tech LeadersCode Story: Insights from Startup Tech LeadersS9 Bonus: Alon Arvatz, Pointfive & Author of Battle for Your ComputerAlon Arvatz has been in tech for a long time. Fun fact, he loved technology but hated computer science. After getting introduced to the industry by his father, he discovered that tech is not just computer science - which was a big relief. He is the author of a book called The Battle for your Computer, which highlights Israel and the growth of the global cybersecurity industry. Outside of tech and cybersecurity, he is married with 4 kids, and highlights that all things in life - family, startup, etc. - is a partnership between he and his wife. Their family...2024-04-1129 minTwo Nice Jewish BoysTwo Nice Jewish Boys#348 - Cracking the Code: Israel's Cyber Edge Explained (Alon Arvatz)If Tel Aviv is the Silicon Valley of the Middle East, AKA Silicon Wadi, cybersecurity is its beating heart. From the towering successes of Palo Alto Networks and Checkpoint to the relatively recent rise of Wiz, Israel stands as the undisputed leader in the realm of digital defense. At the core of this technological powerhouse lies Unit 8200, Israel's legendary intelligence unit, known for honing the skills of some of the world's sharpest cyber minds. Graduates of 8200 venture into the entrepreneurial landscape, seeding the growth of Israel's cybersecurity sector with their expertise and innovation. One of the things that truly sets...2024-04-0450 minThe Tikvah PodcastThe Tikvah PodcastMatti Friedman on Whether Israel Is Too Dependent on TechnologyIsrael is known for its advances in military technology, from the helmet-mounted displays of the newest fighter jets to the Iron Beam anti-missile defense system. (See this recent discussion with the military strategist and author Edward Luttwak about his new book on the subject, or this discussion with the entrepreneur Alon Arvatz about the cyber-specific dimension of Israeli defense.) But as with everything, there are always tradeoffs to technology. Those tradeoffs are the concern of the Israeli writer Matti Friedman, who recently published an essay in the Atlantic called “Israel Is Dangerously Dependent on Technology.” Here, he speaks with...2023-12-2840 minModeX - Helping to build + grow technology companiesModeX - Helping to build + grow technology companiesS1:E6 // Pioneering Cyber Security for SME's + the Importance of Adjustability + Adaptability when building Start-Ups.In this Episode of the ModeX podcast, we talk to Dor Eisner, the Co-Founder + CEO of Guardz! Guardz set a mission of empowering #MSPs to secure and insure #SMBs with their AI-powered cybersecurity platform, which automates detection and response across multiple attack vectors. Dor, talks to us about the Guardz journey so far, his own journey, how he see's the world of Cyber Security in time to come, and offers some valuable advice... The 4 T's to build a successful venture! - Team - Technology - TAM 2023-12-2118 minListen to Latest Full Audiobooks in Business & Economics, Business & Career DevelopmentListen to Latest Full Audiobooks in Business & Economics, Business & Career DevelopmentThe Battle for Your Computer: Israel and the Growth of the Global Cyber- Security Industry by Alon ArvatzPlease visit https://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/705732 to listen full audiobooks. Title: The Battle for Your Computer: Israel and the Growth of the Global Cyber- Security Industry Author: Alon Arvatz Narrator: Mitch Crawford Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 12 hours 32 minutes Release date: October 17, 2023 Genres: Business & Career Development Publisher's Summary: In The Battle for Your Computer: Israel and the Growth of the Global Cyber-Security Industry, Israeli Defense Force (IDF) cyberwarfare veteran and tech product leader Alon Arvatz examines the 'why' and the 'how' of the extraordinarily strong connection between Israel's elite cyber military unit and that country's booming offensive and defensive cybersecurity...2023-10-1730 minListen to Latest Full Audiobooks in Business & Economics, Business & Career DevelopmentListen to Latest Full Audiobooks in Business & Economics, Business & Career DevelopmentThe Battle for Your Computer: Israel and the Growth of the Global Cyber- Security Industry by Alon ArvatzPlease visithttps://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/705732to listen full audiobooks. Title: The Battle for Your Computer: Israel and the Growth of the Global Cyber- Security Industry Author: Alon Arvatz Narrator: Mitch Crawford Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 12 hours 32 minutes Release date: October 17, 2023 Genres: Business & Career Development Publisher's Summary: In The Battle for Your Computer: Israel and the Growth of the Global Cyber-Security Industry, Israeli Defense Force (IDF) cyberwarfare veteran and tech product leader Alon Arvatz examines the 'why' and the 'how' of the extraordinarily strong connection between Israel's elite cyber military unit and that country's booming offensive and defensive cybersecurity industry...2023-10-1712h 32The Tikvah PodcastThe Tikvah PodcastAlon Arvatz on Israel's Cyber-Security IndustryIsrael's success in military cyber-operations and cyber-security, from disrupting Iranian nuclear development to covert intelligence gathering, is well known. It has given birth to a cluster of companies that have made Tel Aviv a global hub for cyber-security. Alon Arvatz is CEO and co-founder of PointFive, a new cybersecurity start up based in Tel Aviv, and the author of a new book, The Battle for Your Computer: Israel and the Growth of the Global Cyber-Security Industry. With Mosaic editor Jonathan Silver, he talks here about some of the factors that make Israeli companies so competitive in cybersecurity, how...2023-09-2859 minDealMakers: Entrepreneur | Startups | Venture CapitalDealMakers: Entrepreneur | Startups | Venture CapitalAlon Arvatz On Selling His Last Company For $350 Million And Now Raising Millions To Make Cloud Computing Affordable And EfficientIn a recent episode of the Dealmaker’s Podcast, Alon Arvatz, co-founder of PointFive, shared his remarkable journey through the tech industry. From his early exposure to tech companies to founding successful ventures, Alon's story is a testament to determination, adaptability, and a commitment to making an impact. His latest venture, PointFive, has attracted funding from top-tier VC Index Ventures. 2023-09-2838 minNSNNSNIsraeli Tech Entrepreneur Alon Arvatz Joins Nachum on JM in the AMhttps://f395d6.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/AlonArvatzonJMintheAM09212023.mp3 Nachum hosted Alon Arvatz, author of “The Battle for Your Computer: Israel and the Growth of the Global Cyber-Security Industry,” live in the studio during this morning’s JM in the AM to discuss the book, Alon’s start-ups, high tech in Israel and more. From the book’s Amazon page: Discover the extraordinary realities of the world’s most advanced cybersecurity companies and tech In The Battle for Your Computer: Israel and the Growth of the Global Cyber-Security Industry, Israeli Defe...2023-09-2100 minJM in the AM InterviewsJM in the AM InterviewsNachum Segal and Tech Entrepreneur Alon Arvatz Discuss High Tech in Israel and Alon's Book "The Battle for Your Computer: Israel and the Growth of the Global Cyber-Security Industry"2023-09-2100 minJM in the AMJM in the AM09.21.2023: Guest: Alon Arvatz, CEO and Co-Founder of PointFive2023-09-2100 minThe Human FounderThe Human FounderEpisode 103 - with Alon Arvatz, CEO & Co-founder of PointFiveEvery team of co-founders deals with conflicts. As three co-founders of IntSights, Alon shared that they had to overcome many obstacles. When I asked him what caused conflicts between them and what helped them solve them, he explained that he had to make a shift in his mindset. “It was a tough process to go through; you believe in yourself, you believe that you know what needs to be done as the co-founder who's supposed to make the decisions, but you learn, like in marriage, that you can’t take all the decisions alone.”   Lett...2023-05-2351 minFounder StoriezFounder StoriezUncovering Life Lessons 3: A Special Episode with Ran Ribenzaft, Shahar Erez, Dan Scheinman, Guy Benjamin, Alon Arvitz. What Message They'd Give Their Younger SelvesShow Notes:  0:00 - 2:22 Introduction 2:23 - 4:18 Ran Ribenzaft 4:19 - 7:00 Shahar Eerz 7:01 - 8:49 Dan Scheinman 8:49 - 10:03 - Guy Benjamin 10:04 - 12:01 Alon Arvatz12:02 - 12:39 ending  🔗 CONNECT WITHRan Ribenzaft: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ran-ribenzaft/Shahar Erez: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaharer/Dan Scheinman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danscheinman/Guy Benjamin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guy-benjamin-9904b844/Alon Arvatz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alon-arvatz/ 🔗 CONNECT WITH EPH...2023-03-0512 minShot of CyberShot of CyberAlon ArvatzIn the 11th episode of Shot of Cyber, Gilad and Simon meet Alon Arvatz, an entrepreneur, Co-Founder at IntSights that has been acquired by Rapid7. Alon speaks about his journey as an entrepreneur in the Israeli cybersecurity industry, and about what is the necessary change of mindset he had to make once his startup suddenly turned into a part of a large enterprise. Alon shares his views on the Israeli secret sauce to becoming a world-leading cybersecurity market and shares historical milestones that made it happen. 2022-12-1840 minFounder StoriezFounder StoriezAlon Arvatz CPO & Co-founder IntSights | Selling a company for $335 Million |Conversation with Alon Arvatz CTO & Cofounder IntSights. Sold to Rapid7 for $335 Million. Alon Arvatz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alon-arvatz/ Ephraim Yarmak: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ephraimyarmak/ Please subscribe & leave a review. Enjoy!2022-04-1141 minin my networkin my networkAlon Arvatz - Entrepreneur & Co Founder of IntSightsA humble and thought provoking leader.From 400 million dollar exits, to his religion, and his army career, we get to know Alon a bit better in this episode of in my network. Keep up with Alon on Linkedin! 2022-01-2732 minSalted HashSalted HashGet a hands-on, inside look at the dark web | Salted Hash Ep 25Reporting from RSA 2018, host Steve Ragan helps dispel the hype and confusion surrounding the dark web, as he talks with Alon Arvatz, co-founder at IntSights.2018-05-2410 min