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Work From Bed FridayCome Hang Out with Me in My Yes DepartmentChapter 18 of Miranda July's All Fours is barely three pages in total. It only takes eight minutes to listen to it on audio. Tommy and Amy, however, do not let that stop them from talk talk talking for so long about rage, intercourse as a disappointing end game, and centering pleasure. They dig deep into the anatomy of a marital argument and hit on a profound distinction: working on your relationship vs. practicing loving. In fact, their conversation was so long that, once again, they chose to break up the convo into two separate episodes. I KNOW. B...2025-07-2535 minWork From Bed FridayFeast on Something REALYou can't always get what you want, but sometimes you get what you summon. And it will blow your mind. At least it did for our heroine at the end of Chapter 17 of Miranda July's All Fours. In this, the second part of their long and juicy discussion of this pivotal chapter, Amy & Tommy tackle pre-fab structures, reveal how objectification is a total turn-on, and consider the body as the entry point to the soul. Oh, and there's a little detour about penis size. Does it matter? Original Music:Song: Beachball...2025-07-1845 minWork From Bed FridayThe Mind and the Body Come TogetherChapter 17 is so long and juicy, that our discussion was long enough and juicy enough to to warrant TWO episodes. Welcome to Part 1!How long does real transformation take? In the twelve hours of this chapter, our reliably unreliable narrator transforms from a fixation on summoning Davey to an openness to having sex with the world. All because of a mind-altering bodily experience. It's the moment of deep darkness before seeing the light, the coming together of the mind and the body, her desperate desire to know, "How does he fuck?"Original Music:2025-07-1140 minWork From Bed FridayRN: You Might Have to Google it.In our discussion of Chapter 16 in Miranda July’s All Fours, we cover solo parenting, self loathing, authenticity, and holding on to our wildness. Also, what does "ass-prone" really mean?But it’s our discussion of personal change as a constant that really brings this episode to its eerily meta level. Note Tommy’s sudden tendency to mansplaining, heretofore absent from the pod. Here's Tommy: "I mean, I mansplained the Nightbitch plotline... and I haven't even read the book!"Horrified, he’s blamed it on the ubiquity of personal change and promises its demise. Sometimes the best parts of...2025-07-0443 minWork From Bed FridayFuck the Grumpy OutThe title of this episode was inspired by Portland writer Jenn Lalime. Her comment on Miranda July’s Substack piece spurred many juicy conversations, both in the comment section and in Amy and Tommy’s kitchen! Here’s the exact quote: “It look me nearly 20 years of marriage before I stopped living in the shadow of male sex entitlement and fucking the grumpy out of my husband.” Whoa. Right? She goes on to talk about how she took the lead to bring her and her husband to their own “breakthrough” ten years ago. So good.Chapter 15 o...2025-06-2748 minWork From Bed FridayI'm Actually Married to Davey...and She's in PerimenopauseIn Chapter 14 of Miranda July's All Fours, our increasingly unhinged heroine realizes that she has most certainly cried "Wolf!" or, in her case, "Menopause!" Now officially experiencing perimenopause, we follow her faulty reasoning as she concludes that her newfound libido may soon disappear along with her estrogen—she, and all women, will eventually fall off of a cliff. Or so she thinks.Amy confirms that not all medical providers are as evolved as Dr. Mendoza and the two hosts consider that any prescription for perimenopause should include a rumspringa, as Mary suggests. Tommy admits that he might be...2025-06-2050 minWork From Bed FridayI Need Him to Jizz Thinking About My Ass!Amy delivers that line with so much enthusiasm (and only flubbing one word) that it's as if she's hoping it will be considered as her audition for the next incarnation of the audio book. Or the Starz series?? One can dream...In Chapter 13 of Miranda July's All Fours, our increasingly unhinged heroine pleads menopause, finally agrees to adopt a puppy, and witnesses the moment that her desperate attempt to connect with her lover comes full circle—and lands under her linden tree. Amy & Tommy discuss big life change, jealousy, masturbatory cleaning, trad wives, and more....2025-06-1341 minWork From Bed FridayDarkness, Heartbreak, and the Dangers of Black Spray PaintOh, heartbreak. You are so maddeningly universal. The sick feeling. The roboticism. The detachment from reality. As our character re-enters her domestic life, heartbreak haunts her. She lives the image from the beginning of the chapter: a frozen soul, in her basement, between a trampoline and a couple of suitcases. Amy & Tommy examine the bleakness of this chapter, but not without cackles of laughter and memories of their own heartbreak and miscommunication. Amy vouches for the healing power of young pilots in Singapore and Tommy recounts the slow response to his marriage proposal via accordion song. The un...2025-06-0645 minWork From Bed FridayAnatomy of a Turn-On"I'm thinking something, what am I thinking?"In fact, there is no thinking at all. Just action, sensation, and a new understanding occurring at a subterranean level. Chapter 11 of Miranda July's All Fours is a veritable feast of subconscious mystery: sex dreams, uncharted intimacy, and the perilous territory of goodbye. Amy & Tommy dig right into the middle of it, excavating juicy bits of their own past--it's SPICY!Are we all just landscapes with unexpected rushes of pleasure hidden even from ourselves? Suddenly, a trifecta arrives: an element of surprise, a little push against a moral bo...2025-05-3050 minWork From Bed FridayI Want to Build a Hut Right Next to... Your ButtUnbridled emotion, soul-connected dance, and strobe lights as sex toys—Amy and Tommy don’t miss any of it in their discussion of Chapter 10 in Miranda July’s All Fours. Amy calls it the “love chapter” and perhaps it is, sprinkled with the tension of fraught desire and the finitude of time.A strange irony exists in the very best moments both in love and in sex: the deep desire to stay right there in that very feeling forever which is both an act of relishing the present while actively craving that very existence in perpetuity. Whether shouting l...2025-05-2349 minWork From Bed Friday"Desire Should Be Clumsy": a Mantra, a Motto, a Call to ArmsWhen our character learns that Davey’s first sexual encounters were orchestrated by his mother with his mother’s very experienced friend, she is, understandably, flabbergasted. But the thought that emerges later has morphed into something of a motto or a mantra for Amy and Tommy. Miranda July writes, “An overly skilled lover was kind of icky—desire should make you clumsy.” Indeed. Clumsy indeed.In Amy & Tommy’s romp through Chapter 9 of All Fours, they question the linearity of sex, wonder about clogged fourth chakras (shouldn’t it be clogged sacral chakras? Someone help!) and consider the irony of a...2025-05-1648 minWork From Bed FridayAffairs: Emotional, Mechanical, and Otherwise"He reached across the table and touched the back of his hand to the back of mine..." and so begins the erotically charged emotional affair between our main character and Davey. As readers, Amy and Tommy are pulled into the weightless madness that comes the realization that our feelings are mirrored by the object of our desire. As a long-time married couple, they examine this hilarious and sexy chapter from a healthy distance before the topic touches a little closer to the bone. They go off piste a bit to pan Babygirl, directed by Halina Reijn, then...2025-05-0948 minWork From Bed FridayLust at the BordersIn Chapter 7 of Miranda July’s All Fours, our character wrestles with two realities: her sudden and unhinged desire for Davey's body AND her grim awareness of her aging self. Amy & Tommy use this chapter as a framework to discuss the surprise of primal desire, inner voices, and the intersection of life and art. They also realize that solo orgasms are like cookies. Read along or just enjoy the discussion! Subscribe to the podcast so you won’t miss any of the episodes. We also just set up a Work From Bed Friday Substack where you can actual...2025-05-0252 minWork From Bed FridayCombing through the Weeds: Archetypes, Transactions, and SecretsIn Chapter 6 of Miranda July’s All Fours, our character enters a world of mirrors in which the women of Monrovia and beyond reflect the different seasons of her life. Amy & Tommy can’t stop analyzing the relatively minor character of Helen—wise woman, pleasure seeker, housekeeper.And then there are secrets—which ones do we keep and which ones do we divulge? Are the transgressions of our past selves titillating or better kept under wraps? Also, a 20-year-old photo of “hot Amy” goes viral.Read along or just enjoy the discussion! Subscribe to Work From Bed Frid...2025-04-2546 minWork From Bed FridaySerendipity, Lies, and Erotic PossibilityIs the universe just a big wonky pinball machine? As our character keeps the ball in motion without making much forward progress toward her destination, Amy & Tommy discuss a magical land called Monrovia, interactions with strangers, and the Piña Colada song, to which Amy gets the concept right, but bungles the lyrics and details.In Chapter 5 of Miranda July’s All Fours, the action of the road trip is interspersed with our character’s deep thoughts. Likewise, Amy & Tommy jump from reflecting on parenting, restlessness, and eye contact with strangers to sharing their longstanding anniversary tradition of re...2025-04-1845 minWork From Bed FridayJust Do ItOur character prepares to leave on her cross country road trip, checking off a list of mundane tasks, including marching into her husband's room wearing nothing but high heels. Which begs the question: why is intimacy with our partner sometimes so hard? Even when once you get going you find yourself "sex's biggest fan??"Amy & Tommy dive into Chapter 4 of Miranda July's All Fours to find themselves busted—their "before times" selves exposed in the narrative. Also, the relative safety of flying over driving. Maybe it's all related?Read the chapter or just enjoy the di...2025-04-1132 minWork From Bed FridayThe Fantasy's the ThingIn Chapter 3 of Miranda July’s All Fours, our character sips clandestine strawberry milkshakes with her bestie before sneaking back into her house like a thief. This episode is about secrets and disclosure, fantasy and reality, mind-rooted and body-rooted fucks—so many binaries! Where do you find yourself?Amy & Tommy find themselves embarking on a spicy discussion featuring childhood favorite food treats, fantasies, connection, foreplay, and Portland Firefighters—surprisingly, the bleep button was only needed twice!Read along or just enjoy the discussion. Subscribe to Work From Bed Friday so you won’t miss any of the e...2025-04-0442 minWork From Bed FridayParkers, Drivers, and a Can of WormsChapter 2 of Miranda July’s All Fours is rather short. Which might have meant a short episode trying to figure out who is a parker and who is a driver or if it's all bullshit if it weren’t for that darn can of worms: what DOES happen to relationships and identities when a couple has a child?Amy & Tommy talk about transformative experiences, first dates, parenting, and standing ovations for a simple dinner of spaghetti and meatballs. Amy wants to make sure that you know that she LOVES being a mom despite the recurrent feeling of wadi...2025-03-2843 minWork From Bed FridayPlease Trouble Me: Naked SelfiesAmy and Tommy kick off their Season 1 discussion of Miranda July’s All Fours with an in-depth look at Chapter 1, which they’ve both read (and listened to) multiple times by now!Do we all have an imaginary telephotographer peering into our lives? Or is that just Amy’s younger self? Who do you send your sexy selfies to? Or to whom? How do we manage our constantly evolving selves in the context of a long term relationship? Is it now cool to sleep in separate beds? They tackle these questions and more in this f...2025-03-2148 minWork From Bed FridayThe Backstory and The BreakthroughIn their debut episode, Amy Hoffmann and Tommy Borden give a quick history of their 30-year relationship and the recent breakthrough that changed everything. They start with their meet-cute at a polka-dot party in San Francisco’s Marina district in 1994 and sprint through their long-distance courtship to trailer living, marriage, children and moving eight times in three years before settling in Portland, OR where they finally learned how to really love one another. Reading All About Love by bell hooks was a watershed moment that completely transformed their relationship. Other books followed: Come As You Are by Emily...2025-03-1442 minWork From Bed FridayWork From Bed Friday TRAILER!A committed couple of 30+ years, Amy and Tommy get ready to launch their first podcast! Funny, spicy, and insightful, they discuss marriage, sex, and connection through the lens of contemporary books and media. Every Friday. From bed. Their two-person way-better-than-a-bookclub discussion starts by analyzing Miranda July's All Fours. They dissect one chapter per episode, using it as a jumping off point for thoughts on life, marriage, art, desire, midlife, and so much more.Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts so you don't miss our first full episode, dropping soon!Send us a text2025-02-2702 min