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The CartographersBut do we really need the church?"Maybe religion, for all of its faults, works a bit like a retaining wall to hold back the destabilizing pressure of American hyper-individualism, which threatens to swell and spill over in its absence.” So writes Derek Thompson in The Atlantic. In this episode, as part of the series on worship and formation, Ashley and Bryce discuss Thompson's article, trends in churchgoing, the role of technology, and what the church is for. Resources discussed:“The True Cost of the Churchgoing Bust” By Derek Thompson in The AtlanticKirsten Sanders' substa...2024-04-2332 minThe CartographersCombating Digital Loneliness with Justin Whitmel EarleyIf you've been hurt or are unsure about how to engage in community, this interview with Justin Whitmel Earley on his book, Made for People, is a great starting place. Listen in to Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales as they speak with Justin about creating community in the church and in your neighborhoods. It's a practical starting place that follows up from the dechurching episode (so listen to that one too if you haven't yet).Resources:Made for People by Justin Whitmel EarleyTo find out more about Justin and...2023-12-0547 minThe CartographersHumor Deflates Culture Wars with Harrison Scott KeyWhat if humor was more than just a way to break tension or get a laugh? Humor takes the air out of anger, leads towards forgiveness, and provides a way to opt out of culture war thinking. In this thoughtful, funny, and moving conversation, Bryce and Ashley sit down with Harrison Scott Key, author of How to Stay Married. They speak about restoration, faith, and the role humor plays.How to Stay Married is a book about an affair and the outrageous mercy of God. Find a pathway to the true, good, and beautiful even in the...2023-09-0548 minThe CartographersWhat if Culture Wars are your Work? with Pete WehnerWhen your job is politics, how do you get away from the rhetoric and tribalism of the culture wars? In this episode, Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales talk with Peter Wehner, a contributing editor for The Atlantic and a former presidential speech writer, about navigating culture war topics.Pete Wehner is a Senior Fellow at Trinity Forum @trinityforum; he writes for @nytimes & @TheAtlantic. He has worked in Reagan/Bush41 administrations and Bush43 White House. He’s also the author of The Death of Politics.Resources mentioned: Pete's work in The At...2023-07-111h 10The CartographersA Culture War Alternative with Mark LabbertonNeed an alternative to online culture warmongering? On this episode, Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales talk with Mark Labberton, President Emeritus of Fuller Theological Seminary, about how exile is the paradigm we need for this cultural moment. Be sure to listen, subscribe and share. We'd love if you shared these episodes with a friend or family member as a starting point for conversation.Be sure to head to Willowbrae Institute to sign up for our newsletter and get a free pdf to help you process the "culture wars." Resources mentioned...2023-06-0657 minThe CartographersHow'd We Get Stuck in the Middle?On this series, "Stuck in the Middle," we're talking to leaders like you who feel pulled into multiple directions in the latest iteration of the culture wars. (Here's the first episode if you missed out on that).On this episode, Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales talk about the questions they bring to the table, the origin of the term "culture wars", what's involved (and get a short literary history in the process) and how a leader can actually lead through cultural change without capitulating. Be sure to listen, subscribe and share. Consider using these episodes as a...2023-05-2339 minThe CartographersStuck in the Middle: a new series on the culture warsIf you feel like you're stuck in the middle of polarization, disinformation, and decision fatigue this new series on the "culture wars" is for you!In this short intro, Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales share some of their hopes to help guide the conversation around partisanship and tribalism so that leaders can chart a pathway through the culture wars. In this series, you'll get more from thoughtful leaders and practitioners so you'll have a framework to move beyond being "stuck in the middle" to live faithfully in this moment in time.Subscribe and share so...2023-05-1012 minThe CartographersHow to Live with Alan NobleHow can we get out of bed each morning? Alan Noble's On Getting Out of Bed is a gentle reminder to do the next right thing when you or someone you love experiences mental affliction. In this conversation, Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales talk about Alan's work, what the redemption of Jesus means for depression and anxiety, and how to move beyond performing our pain.Resources mentioned:Alan's latest book, On Getting Out of BedAlan's other books: Disruptive Witness and You are Not Your OwnAshley's latest...2023-04-1142 minThe CartographersCurt Thompson's Cure for IndividualismHow do modernity, technology, brain science, and spiritual formation work together? In this wide-ranging and fascinating conversation, Bryce and Ashley sit down with Curt Thompson, MD, who deftly combines interpersonal neurobiology and Christian faith. We talk about institutions, the lack of fruitfulness amongst Christians, and developing a Christian imagination. A must-listen: practical, thoughtful, warm-hearted and help for you to live with your people and in your place.Resources Mentioned:Curt's latest book, The Soul of DesireCurt's website and podcastMark Oppenheimer, "The Schools that Ban Smartphones," The...2023-03-2857 minThe CartographersOrphaned Believers with Sara BillupsCan the church be a place for disillusioned people? In this conversation, Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales talk with Sara Billups about the ways consumer-driven and end-times-focused Christian belief shaped a generation. Listen in for thoughtful commentary and a way forward.Resources mentioned:Sara Billups, Orphaned Believers: How a Generation of Christian Exiles can Find the Way HomeLeigh Stein, "The Empty Religions of Instagram," NYTFind out more about Sara on her website.The Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find...2023-03-1446 minThe CartographersBiblical Critical Theory with Christopher WatkinBryce Hales and Ashley Hales interview Christopher Watkin about the story the bible tells as an interpretative lens. We speak about the issue of critical theory, how his book Biblical Critical Theory is useful, and how it might help us over and against a culture war lens.LINKSChristopher Watkin's book, Biblical Critical TheoryFind out more about Christopher on his websiteThe Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce...2023-02-2842 minThe CartographersAn Intentional Year with Glenn PackiamHow do we think about our days, weeks, and seasons? In this conversation with Glenn Packiam, Ashley Hales and Bryce Hales talk about emotional health for leaders, the difference between information and transformation, and how an intentional year fits in.Resources mentioned:Holly Packiam and Glenn Packiam, The Intentional YearGlenn Packiam, The Resilient Pastor and more resources at BarnaThe Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and...2023-02-1441 minThe CartographersGrowing Wise with Chris BrunoWhat does it look like to grow old -- not just in years but in wisdom? How are young men growing in maturity? What does emotional health look like?Part of charting the cultural landscape for Christian leaders is paying attention to our spiritual health and the need for sage guides. Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales speak to counselor Chris Bruno about his new book, Sage.Resources mentioned:Chris Bruno's ReStory CounselingChris' book, SageThe Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute...2023-01-3141 minThe CartographersLiturgical Formation with Douglas McKelveyHow do we move through pain? What forms can we use to practice communal identity with others and promote honesty before God? How do liturgies form us?Part of charting the cultural landscape for Christian leaders is promoting forms for communal and historical identity, rather than a flippant individualism. In this interview, Ashley Hales speaks to writer Douglas McKelvey about his work in Every Moment Holy.Resources mentioned:DISCOUNT CODE for listeners: 15% off use code EMHHALESEvery Moment HolyRabbit Room...2023-01-3147 minThe CartographersHuman Limits with David ZahlHow do our limits lead us towards love? What is our understanding of the human person within the sphere of faith? How do we actually live out a kingdom ethnic in this day and age?Part of charting the cultural landscape for Christian leaders is a full understanding of the human person. In this conversation, Ashley Hales and Bryce Hales speak with David Zahl about his book, Low Anthropology.Resources mentioned:David Zahl, Mockingbird MinistriesDavid's book: Low AnthropologyThe...2023-01-3141 minThe CartographersIntroducing The CartographersFinding Holy is transitioning to The Cartographers: Mapping the Cultural Landscape for 21st century Christian Leaders.Join Ashley Hales and Bryce Hales as they have conversations with guests in a changing cultural landscape. Escape the same thoughtful commentary and questions, wise ways forward, and a new emphasis on the intersection between spiritual formation, imagination, individual and institutions.The Cartographers will release every other Tuesday. We'll be back in 2 weeks with 3 new episodes. Be sure to subscribe! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices2023-01-2418 minThe Cartographers138: On Time Anxiety with Jen Pollock MichelDo you feel rushed or overwhelmed this time of year? During Advent, Ashley speaks with Jen Pollock Michel about how we might better think about living in the time that is given to us. In this episode we talk about the time anxiety that attends us during the holiday rush and some practical steps forward.We're also giving away 5 copies of In Good Time! To enter, rate and review the podcast and let me know you've done it by sending an email to findingholypodcast@gmail.com.LINKS...2022-11-2926 minThe Cartographers137: Hannah Anderson on AdventWhat does it mean to practice time-keeping as a Christian? In this episode, Ashley sits down with Hannah Anderson to talk about Advent, our need for liturgies, and what creation can teach us. Listen in and grab a copy of Hannah's book.LINKSHannah and Nathan's book, Heaven and Nature SingFollow Hannah on TwitterHannah's websiteAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and speaking at aahales.co...2022-11-2234 minThe Cartographers136: Ann Swindell on the Path through OverwhelmAre you overwhelmed? Ashley Hales talks with Ann Swindell about her devotional, The Path to Peace. As we walk through the lives of several biblical characters, we'll begin to see that the point is less to do with our circumstances and more about knowing God. Listen in to this hopeful conversation.LINKSAnn's website, including her writing coursesAnn's book, The Path to PeaceAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her wo...2022-11-1530 minThe Cartographers135: Glenn Packiam on Resilience in the ChurchIn this conversation with Glenn Packiam, Ashley talks with Glenn about resilience, discipleship and ways to move forward. Chock full of hope, data, and practical steps. Listen in.LINKSGlenn's websiteRockharbor ChurchGlenn's book, The Resilient PastorResilient pastor resources (podcast, cohorts, etc).Ashley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and speaking at aahales.com and signup for her substack. Be sure to leave a ra...2022-11-0836 minThe Cartographers134: Gem Fadling on Your Thought LifeIn this conversation, Ashley talks with Gem Fadling about low-grade anxiety, a Christian's thought life and how we might notice and discern the voices in our heads to "take every thought captive." Listen in to a practical conversation.LINKSFollow Gem and Unhurried Living on InstagramUnhurried Living, Inc.Replenish Community Gem's most recent book, Hold That ThoughtAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and sp...2022-11-0133 minThe Cartographers133: Angie Ward on Kingdom and NationIn this episode, Ashley and Bryce Hales sit down with Angie Ward, editor of Kingdom and Country, a book that helps us discern allegiance to Christ our King and what our relationship to the nation might be. In this conversation, we chat about ideas surrounding Christian nationalism and what postures we might take in this moment in time.LINKSKingdom and Country: Following Jesus in the Land that you LoveAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find ou...2022-10-2529 minThe Cartographers132: Bonnie Kristian on Our Knowledge CrisisAshley and Bryce Hales talk with journalist Bonnie Kristian about our knowledge crisis and what we can do about it. While it can feel like people aren't even living in the same reality anymore, Bonnie gives some practical and hopeful starting places in our day and age. We highly recommend her book!LINKSBonnie's book, Untrustworthy: How the Knowledge Crisis is Breaking our Brains, Ruining our Politics and Corrupting Christian CommunityFollow Bonnie on TwitterAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in pa...2022-10-1840 minThe Cartographers131: Shannan Martin on How to Be a NeighborAshley sits down with Shannan Martin as they talk together about how to be a good neighbor -- in our neighborhoods and in virtual spaces, too. Get some great ideas on how to grow your relationships in Shannan's newest book, Start with Hello.LINKSShannan on InstagramShannan's book, Start with HelloShannan's substackWe mention a conversation with Bonnie Kristian (and her book Untrustworthy); that conversation will be out next week!Ashley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in...2022-10-1138 minThe Cartographers130: Aaron Damiani on Living SacramentallyWhat does it mean to live a sacramental life? Ashley is joined by Bryce Hales for this invigorating conversation with Anglican pastor, Aaron Damiani. We talk about practical starting places when we can't think our way to God, feel our way to God, or serve our ways to God. Listen in -- you'll find some hope for belief in this moment in time.LINKS Aaron's book, Earth Filled with HeavenPatient Ferment of the Early ChurchO Gracious Light prayerLinks to the...2022-10-0441 minThe Cartographers129: Make Grief Normal Again with Amanda Held OpeltAshley Hales sits down with Amanda Held Opelt to talk about how we might normalize grief, pain, loss and death. With her background in aid work, she thought she would prepared, but wasn't when her sister Rachel Held Evans was hospitalized and died. But studying grief rituals was one way through.Listen in to this hopeful, thoughtful and rich conversation and let it help you process your own losses.LINKSAmanda's book, A Hole in the WorldConnect with Amanda on her websiteAshley’s most re...2022-09-2739 minThe Cartographers128: Lore Wilbert on Why a Posture of Curiosity MattersWhat do we do with our questions? In this conversation, Ashley talks with Lore Ferguson Wilbert about questions faith poses and what a curious faith looks like. This conversation moves past hot takes on deconstruction and into the questions we ask of God, he asks of us, and we ask together in community. Listen in.LINKSSign up for Lore's substackLore's most recent book, A Curious FaithAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about he...2022-09-2038 minThe Cartographers127: Andrew Arndt on Hope for the WildernessWeekly episodes are back! Join us each Tuesday as we connect the dots between big ideas and everyday life in culture, theology, and the arts. Expect thoughtful, deep and lively conversation and guests' laundry routines!This week, Ashley sits down with Andrew Arndt to talk about the gifts of the desert fathers and mothers. You'll hear about Andrew's own spiritual journey and how these ancient, wise voices may help those doubting and pave the way forward for our polarized culture.LINKSAndrew's websiteAndrew's book: Streams in the...2022-09-1338 minThe Cartographers126: Mark Sayers on Cultural Anxiety and its CureJoin Ashley as she talks with Mark Sayers about his recent book, A Non-Anxious Presence, and all about church renewal, church hurt, and hope for institutional clarity and mission in this moment and time. Mark Sayers is pastor of Red Church in Melbourne, Australia, and podcast host of Rebuilders. Not to be missed!LINKSMark's latest book, A Non-Anxious PresenceLearn more about Mark on his website, including his podcastsAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You ca...2022-08-2545 minThe Cartographers125: Makoto Fujimura on Art and FaithAshley Hales interviews Mako Fujimura on his artistic process, how faith and art meet and collide and give hope for sorrow and our cultural moment. Not to miss!LINKSLearn more about MakoArt + Faith bookArt + Faith group reading guideAcademy Kintsugi Ashley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and speaking at aahales.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices2022-08-0941 minThe Cartographers124: Reading as Formation with Austin CartyAshley talks with Austin Carty about how reading forms us as leaders, how we can get started reading again, and some practical steps forward, especially for pastors and leaders. Pick up a book today and become less anxious, more content, and more empathetic. Listen in.LINKSAustin’s book: The Pastor’s Bookshelf: Why Reading Matters for MinistryOther books mentioned:The Brothers KaramazovAnna KareninaMarilynne Robinson’s novels: Housekeeping, Gilead, Home, Jack, LilaJohn HartKashiguro, The Remains of the...2022-07-2548 minThe Cartographers123: Hope for the Western Church with Eric CostanzoAshley talks with Eric Costanzo, an author (along with Daniel Yang and Matt Soerens) of Inalienable, about hope for the American church. We don't have to give up on Jesus' bride, but we do need to find ways to heal. Listen in to Eric's practical and thoughtful wisdom about how to live with hope for the church. Listening to and learning from marginalized voices shows us the way forward.LINKSEric's book, InalienableAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. Sign up for As...2022-07-0637 minThe Cartographers122: Pantsuit Politics' Beth Silvers on Re-knitting our Social FabricAshley talks with Beth Silvers (one half of the Pantsuit Politics duo, along with Sarah Stewart Holland) about how we move forward with grace and hope in politics, in community, and with one another. Listen in for some practical ways to think institutionally, act kindly, and reknit our social fabric.LINKSBeth and Sarah's book: Now What? How to Move Forward When We're Divided About Basically EverythingListen to Pantsuit PoliticsAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. Si...2022-06-2141 minThe Cartographers121: Gordon T. Smith on Why Work isn't All There IsAshley talks with Gordon T. Smith on calling, vocation and how all of what we do matters — not just our careers.LINKSGordon’s book, Your Calling Here and NowSusan Scott, Fierce ConversationsAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. Sign up for Ashley’s substack here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices2022-06-0738 minThe Cartographers120: What we can Learn from China with Hannah Nation and Ryan ZhangAshley talks with Hannah Nation and Ryan Zhang about their work with the book, Faith in the Wilderness: a book translating Chinese pastors' sermons on the intersection of the pandemic and persecution. Listen in to hear what Hannah (as the editor) and Ryan (as a translator) learned about resilience and growth and what the Chinese church can teach the Western church.LINKSFaith in the WildernessChina Partnership, https://www.chinapartnership.org/China Partnership Prayer Guide: https://www.chinapartnership.org/prayHouse Church...2022-05-2450 minThe Cartographers119: Amy Julia Becker on Healing and WholenessAshley talks with Amy Julia Becker about healing and wholeness for persons, places, and communities. Listen in to this conversation about the wellness industry, the healing Jesus offers, and some practical steps foward.LINKSAmy Julia’s book, To Be Made WellWhite Picket FencesAnd for fun: Dryel dry cleaning product!Ashley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices2022-05-1739 minThe Cartographers118: Jake Meador on Christians for the Sake of the WorldAshley Hales and Jake Meador talk about what Christians offer the world in this moment in time. A practical and thoughtful conversation on Christian community, imagination, and care for our environment and families -- don't miss it.LINKS + RESOURCESJake's newest book, What Are Christians For?Jake's first book, In Search of the Common GoodEpisode 35 where we talked about loneliness and the common goodAshley's newest book, A Spacious Life Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices2022-05-1132 minThe Cartographers117: Hans Boersma on Seeing GodAshley and Hans Boersma talk about the whole point of life — moving toward union with God and what the blessed life looks like now. This conversation may help you tap into the transcendent life in your ordinary one.LINKSHans Boersma’s book, Seeing GodHans’ website: https://www.hansboersma.org/Ashley’s more recent book, A Spacious Life Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices2022-05-0334 minThe Cartographers116: Mark Noll on the Evangelical MindAshley is joined by Mark Noll, Christian historian, as they talk about the word "evangelical," if it could and should be saved, and what to do about the intellectual project for Christians.LINKS + WORKS MENTIONEDBooks by Mark: Mark's updated classic, The Scandal of the Evangelical MindHistory of Christianity in American and CanadaAmerica’s book (out in May)Others mentioned:Frederick Douglass, Narrative of the Life of Frederick DouglassSojourner Truth, Narrative of Sojourne, Tr TruthHa...2022-04-2638 minThe Cartographers115: Staying Awake with Anjuli PaschallAshley and Anjuli talk about staying awake rather than numbing, hiding, or sidestepping life. We talk about conflict, faith, and how to move forward. A helpful, practical conversation especially if you feel unmoored in the last several years.LINKSFollow Anjuli on InstagramAnjuli's second book, AwakeAnjuli's first book, StayAshley's most recent book, A Spacious Life Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices2022-04-1933 minThe Cartographers113: Mental Health with Diana GruverOften going back to go forward looks like naming depression or anxiety and finding a path through. In this conversation with Diana Gruver, she and Ashley talk about mental health and where we find companions in darkness in the church through time.LINKSDiana's book, Companions in the DarknessFollow Diana on TwitterAshley's book, A Spacious LifeGet your Holy Week at Home Bundle for just $5 here. It includes a workbook to help you process your joys and losses with Jesus, as well as recipes...2022-04-0538 minThe Cartographers105: Limits of Knowing, Limits of Art with Daniel BowmanAshley talks with Professor Daniel Bowman about his autism spectrum diagnosis as an adult and the gifts and limits of knowledge and art. A great conversation you won’t want to miss.LINKSDan’s book, On the Spectrum: https://amzn.to/35psP4fFollow Dan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/danielbowmanjrYou can grab a copy of Ashley’s A Spacious New Year workbook to help you create sustainable rhythms this year. It’s just $6 in her shop. Be on the lookout...2022-01-3141 minThe Cartographers104: The Gifts and Limits of Christian Fiction with Daniel SillimanAshley talks with Daniel Silliman on the gifts and limits of fiction — particularly evangelical popular fiction over the last several decades — and what it means for faith and culture.LINKSDaniel’s book, Reading Evangelicals: https://amzn.to/3416fhJFollow Daniel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/danielsillimanAshley’s book, A Spacious LifeBe sure to grab a copy of “A Spacious New Year” — it’s just $6 and will help you create healthy rhythms. You can grab a copy along with A Spacious Life. 2022-01-2542 minThe Cartographers103: The Healing Power of Poetry with Tanner OlsonAshley talks with Tanner Olson about his newest book of poetry and how poetry can be a vehicle to connect with others.LINKSFollow Tanner on Instagram @writtentospeak: https://www.instagram.com/writtentospeak/Tanner’s book, Walk a Little Slower: https://amzn.to/3rrLdkoOther books of poetry recommended: Denise Levertov, Mary Oliver, Malcolm GuiteGrab your “A Spacious New Year” workbook for $6 to help you create sustainable rhythms in 2022 (not the crazy goal-setting, wrestle-your-life list). You can grab it in Ashley’s shop and...2022-01-1834 minThe Cartographers102: The Goodness of Human Limits with Dr. Kelly KapicJoin Ashley as she talks with Professor Kelly Kapic as they dive into the topic of limits — and as she kicks off this series on art and limits. How do limits grow our creativity? How do they make us more human? Listen in. As you settle into a new year, this conversation is sure to help you connect the dots between goals and how to also be well, human.LINKSKelly Kapic’s book, You’re Only Human (out on Jan 18): https://amzn.to/3HPXJRjKelly Kapic’s Amazon...2022-01-1035 minThe Cartographers101: Let's Think about Health: Healthy Bodies with Jennifer Taylor WagnerNeed some thoughtful conversation on healthy bodies when all forms of media will want you to be discontent with who you are? Listen in to this conversation with Ashley and Jennifer Wagner, author of Your Good Body.LINKSJennifer’s book (out in January!): Your Good Body, https://amzn.to/3yOdXadFollow Jennifer on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifertaylorwagner/Be sure to pick up a copy of Ashley’s latest book, A Spacious Life (https://amzn.to/3pjXxTO). It’s available wherever books are sold.2021-12-2136 minThe Cartographers98: Let's think about Health: Creation Care with Au Sable InstituteAs we consider topics of health in these four episodes, Ashley talks with Liuan Huska and Jon Terry about creation care and the Au Sable Institute.LINKSAu Sable InstituteGet your workbook here: www.ausable.org/liturgiesLiuan’s book, Hurting Yet Whole: https://amzn.to/3FOx9HkBook mentioned, Saving Us: https://amzn.to/3I5Vn1NA Spacious Season: A Weary Mom Rejoices is available in the Shop on Ashley’s website: www.aahales.com/shop/aspaciousseasonA...2021-11-2941 minThe Cartographers96: But how do we create a spacious life? (with Sharon Morginsky)In this conversation Ashley talks to counselor Sharon Morginsky about what it looks like to embrace our limits. We talk about re-parenting ourselves, individual and communal limits, and how to move forward with grace.LINKSSharon’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sharonmorginskycounseling/Find out more about her counseling practice and global counseling networkCurt Thompson’s books (some mentioned): Anatomy of the Soul, The Soul of Shame and The Soul of DesireA Spacious Life is out now! Take your...2021-11-0935 minThe Cartographers95: How do we Choose Limits for Good? (with Shannan Martin)How do we choose good limits? Ashley talks with Shannan Martin about how her limits of place have provided challenge and freedom.LINKSFollow Shannan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shannanwrites/Sign up for Shannan’s email list: The Soup Her books: Falling Free, The Ministry of Ordinary PlacesA Spacious Life is out now! Take your Hustle Habit quiz at aspacious.life, get your roadmap to help you live within your limits, and pick up a copy of A Spacious Life: Trading Hustle and Hu...2021-11-0231 minThe Cartographers93: What's in a Name? (with Aubrey Sampson)Join Ashley as she talks with Aubrey Sampson about naming and being known, moving past shame, and how a spacious life fits in.LINKSAubrey's book, KnownFollow Aubrey on InstagramConnect with Aubrey at her websiteAshley's book, A Spacious LifeA Spacious Life will help you recover joy, purpose and rest in a world of hurry and hustle. Be sure to take your Hustle Habit quiz, get your roadmap and pick up a copy of A Spacious Life today.2021-10-1935 minThe Cartographers92: What to do When You Can't Pray (with Kayla Craig)Ashley talks with Kayla Craig on liturgy, prayer, and what to do when we don't have the words.LINKSKayla's book, To Light Their Way: https://amzn.to/3mGyWGqFollow Kayla on Instagram on her personal page and Liturgies for ParentsAshley's book: A Spacious Life: https://amzn.to/2YQtrwRTake your Hustle Habit quiz here and grab your roadmap to help you find your way out. A Spacious Life is available wherever books are sold. Learn more about...2021-10-1232 minThe Cartographers91: How does What we Know influence What we Love? (with Amy Gannett)Ashley talks to Amy Cate Gannett about why theology matters and how what we know can lead to how we love.LINKSAmy’s book, Fix Your Eyes: https://amzn.to/3alb7ORGrab your copy of A Spacious Life: Trading Hustle and Hurry for the Goodness of Limits. It’s out everywhere!Don’t forget to take your Hustle Habit quiz, get your Pocket Practices, and find out more at aspacious.life. Learn more about...2021-10-0541 minThe Cartographers90: How does God invite us to Lead? (with Sharon Hodde Miller)Listen in to this conversation with Sharon Hodde Miller as she and Ashley talk about leadership and limits.LINKSSharon on Instagram and TwitterSharon's latest books, Nice and Free of MeAshley's book: A Spacious LifeGet Pocket Practices and take your Hustle Habit quiz!Get a copy of A Spacious Life: Trading Hustle and Hurry for the Goodness of Limits! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices2021-09-2933 minThe Cartographers89: Where is God in the dark? (with Tish Harrison Warren)In this conversation Ashley talks with Tish Harrison Warren about how to pray when we can't, the limits and invitations of liturgy, our own limits of time and ability, and what a spacious life might look like.LINKSTish's book, Prayer in the Night: https://amzn.to/3CmMo8sFollow Tish on TwitterTish's NYT newsletter: https://www.nytimes.com/column/tish-harrison-warrenAshley's book, A Spacious Life: https://amzn.to/2XDlCdiFollow Ashley on Twitter and InstagramTake your...2021-09-2146 minThe Cartographers88: Flipping the mic: A Spacious Life is born (with Ashley Hales)!We're flipping the mic and Ashley is the one answering questions! Join Laura Fabrycky as she asks insightful questions and she and Ashley discuss how we can find a spacious life in the midst of our everyday lives. Don't miss this episode!A Spacious Life is out today! Help out by ordering a copy or reviewing on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Books-a-million or wherever you buy books. Thank you!Follow Ashley on Twitter and Instagram and take your hustle habit quiz today. Learn more about your...2021-09-1441 minThe Cartographers87: When balance doesn't work, what does? (with Jen Pollock Michel)Jen Pollock Michel talks with Ashley about what a spacious life looks like and what is the good news when "balance" doesn't work out. Listen in to how Jen's limits have been invitations she didn't know she needed.LINKSJen's most recent book, A Habit Called Faith: https://amzn.to/3nj2VWGFind out more about Jen and her work at her website: https://www.jenpollockmichel.com/Follow Jen on Twitter and InstagramIT'S THE LAST WEEK TO PREORDER A Spacious Life! Get...2021-09-0737 minThe Cartographers86: What is the path through dark valleys? (with Sandra McCracken)In this conversation with Sandra McCracken, we talk about the creative process, the valleys in our lives, our limits, and how we can abide with God in the dark valleys in our souls. Listen in: you'll find your soul uplifted through her wisdom.LINKSSandra's book, Send Out Your LightFollow Sandra on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sandramccracken/Listen to Sandra on SpotifyPre-order Ashley's book, A Spacious Life *Take your Hustle Habit quiz here and get your free roadmap...2021-08-3140 minThe Cartographers84: How do we stay in our lane when it comes to calling or pain? (with Marlena Graves)Ashley talks with Marlena Graves about boundaries, hurt and trauma, calling, and what it might look like to embrace our limits. If you’re looking for some guidelines about when and what to speak out on, this is a great conversation — and one that helps you see the beauty of self-restraint.LINKSGet Marlena’s most recent book, The Way Up is Down: https://amzn.to/3yUPTSoPre-order Ashley’s book, A Spacious Life: https://amzn.to/37ZS4IJFollow Marlena on Twitter and Instagram*Take your Hus...2021-08-1642 minThe Cartographers82: What does it take to turn an idea into a book?In this episode, kicking off Season 5, Ashley sits down with her literary agent and editor to talk about A Spacious Life. How does an idea go from concept to book? What drew Don Gates and Elissa Schauer to the project? Listen in -- and don't forget to find out their hustle habit and laundry routines!LinksPre-order A Spacious Life at Amazon, IVP, or wherever books are sold.Join the Spacious Community (opens 8/9 and kicks off 8/16 when you fill out this form: http://aspacious.life/Don Gates, The...2021-08-0237 minThe CartographersKendra Adachi On Genius-ing your Laundry and Your LifeKendra Adachi and Ashley Hales talk about laundry as an act of love, vulnerability and messiness, and how we connect the dots between the meaning behind chores and the task itself. Listen in to get some genius tips on finding out what matters most to you.LinksKendra's book: The Lazy Genius WayFollow Kendra on InstagramKendra's podcast: The Lazy GeniusCheck out last week's episode, The Laundry Episode.Next StepsAs a small next step, find what...2021-07-1939 minThe Cartographers79: The Laundry EpisodeWhat does our laundry have to do with the big ideas of life? At the Finding Holy podcast, I ask all my guests about their laundry routines. In this episode, hear why I ask that question, some memorable routines, and some tips for you as you connect the dots between the things that matter and your everyday, holy life.LINKSThe Quotidian Mysteries by Kathleen Norris: https://amzn.to/3AStaYDFollow Ashley on Twitter or InstagramCurious about the original episodes? Check these out:2021-07-1231 minThe Cartographers77: Alan Noble on our Digital LivesIn this best of series, Alan Noble joins Ashley Hales to talk about our digital lives.You can preorder his next book, You Are Not Your Own, here. His first book is Disruptive Witness and you can follow him on Twitter.Subscribe to the Finding Holy Podcast and leave a review! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices2021-06-2835 minThe CartographersJohn Starke on Praying in a PandemicIn this conversation, Ashley sits down with pastor and author John Starke to talk about praying in a pandemic. John Starke is lead pastor at Apostles Church Uptown in New York City. He is the coeditor (with Bruce Ware) of One God in Three Persons. He lives in Manhattan with his wife and four children.LINKSJohn Starke's book, The Possibility of PrayerJohn's substack newsletter: https://johnstarke.substack.com/Follow John on TwitterONE SMALL STEPMake a l...2021-04-1434 minThe Cartographers67: Hannah Anderson on Nature's LiturgiesIn this conversation, Ashley sits down with Hannah Anderson to talk about a liturgy within nature and how this effects our faith. We talk spiritual formation, a new way of seeing, and what nature has to teach us.MORE ABOUT OUR GUESTHannah Anderson is the author of several books, the most recent of which is Turning of Days: Lessons from Nature, Season and Spirit. She is an author, speaker, and works alongside her husband in rural ministry with their three children in the Blue Ridge mountains of Virginia.2021-04-0633 minThe CartographersJulia Lambert Fogg on our Immigrant NeighborsIn this conversation, Ashley sits down with Julia Lambert Fogg to talk about how we understand scripture, how our neighbors influence our faith, cross-cultural realities, and what Christian faith has to say about immigration.MORE ABOUT OUR GUESTJulia Lambert Fogg is a professor at Cal Lutheran University as well as an author and speaker. Fogg argues that Christians must step out of their comfort zones and learn to cross social, ethnic, and religious borders—just as Jesus did—to become the body of Christ in the world in her book Finding Jesu...2021-04-0136 minThe CartographersWendy Alsup and the Fellowship of SufferingIn this conversation, Ashley sits down with Wendy Alsup to talk about what it might look to suffer well and what hope we have. This is a beautiful, real, and hopeful conversation that can help you lament and hope in light of the covid-19 pandemic and recent mass shootings.MORE ABOUT OUR GUESTWendy Alsup is an author who encourages women to engage theology for themselves. She is the author of several books including Practical Theology for Women, The Gospel-Centered Woman, and By His Wounds You Are Healed. She also teaches math...2021-03-2437 minThe CartographersSheila Wise Rowe on Healing Racial TraumaIn this conversation, Ashley sits down with Sheila Wise Rowe to talk about forms of racism, racial trauma, and the hope of Christ. It’s a practical, rich, and kind conversation you don’t want to miss.MORE ABOUT OUR GUESTSheila Wise Rowe is a graduate of Tufts University and Cambridge College with a master's degree in counseling psychology. For over twenty-five years she has counseled abuse and trauma survivors in the United States. Sheila ministered to homeless and abused women and children in Johannesburg, South Africa, where she also taught coun...2021-03-1738 minThe CartographersScott Sauls on a Gentle Answer for Polarized TimesIn this conversation, Ashley sits down with Scott Sauls to talk about ways to bridge divides in outrage culture. We talk about spiritual formation, living eulogies, and of course his laundry routine. Scott Sauls is Pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Nashville, TN and author of several books, including A Gentle Answer.LINKSScott’s websiteChrist Presbyterian Church:A Gentle AnswerSHARE“We ought to be much less offensive and offendable than the average person.” @scottsauls on #findingholypodcast with @aahales“If you want to persuade...2021-03-1130 minThe CartographersMichael Wear on How to Best Engage Politically NowIn this conversation with Michael Wear, we talk about how we can actually have hope as Christians as we engage politically. He provides us with some frameworks about voting, and helps us think Christianly about how we might engage profitably in the public sphere. Don’t miss it!Share far and wide! Make sure you listen to last week’s episode with Kaitlyn Schiess, too.Join us for Season 4 as we consider hot-button issues alive and well in our world today: Living Faithfully in an Upside-Down World.LINKSMich...2020-10-1651 minThe Cartographers55: Anjuli Paschall on How to Stay (with Emotions, Race + Polarization)Ashley Hales and Anjuli Paschal talk about what it looks like to stay in our emotions and bring them to Jesus, how to stay with others in the midst of racial tensions, political polarization, and the pandemic.Be sure to catch up: Episodes 50-55 all deal with emotional health (listen here)Tell us what you want to hear! 2 MINUTE SURVEY HERE.LINKSAnjuli’s website: https://www.anjulipaschall.com/Follow Anj on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/lovealways.anjuli/Anjuli’s book: Stay http...2020-07-2330 minThe CartographersRebecca Brewster Stevenson on How to Wait WellAshley Hales and Rebecca Brewster Stevenson talk about waiting on God, what that looks like in Covid-19, and how to practically deal with your emotions.Other applicable episodes: Episode 46 with Meredith McDaniel on God’s steadfastness, Episode 38 with Laura Wifler and Emily Jensen on a scaffolding for faithfulness, and Episode 35 on loneliness and the common good.Tell us what you want to hear! 2 MINUTE SURVEY HERE.LINKSRebecca’s website: https://rebeccabrewsterstevenson.com/Rebecca’s book, Wait: https://amzn.to/3j1s5EMS...2020-07-1631 minThe CartographersAundi Kolber on Shame, Love, and Trying SofterAshley Hales and Aundi Kolber talk about Aundi's new book, Try Softer, and emotional health now.Aundi Kolber is a Licensed Professional Counselor (MA LPC), writer, and speaker in Castle Rock, Colorado. She specializes in trauma- and body-centered therapies and is passionate about the integration of faith and psychology. Connect with Aundi at aundikolber.com, on Facebook at aundikolberwrites, and on Instagram at aundikolberTell us what you want to hear! 2 MINUTE SURVEY HERE. LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS, GOOGLE PODCASTS and MEGAPHONE.FM or your favorite podcast-listening app....2020-07-0934 minThe CartographersStephanie Lobdell on Transforming our Ordinary LossesAshley Hales and Stephanie Lobdell talk about loss shaming, church hurt, and we can lean into a narrative of hope in practical ways right now.Rev. Stephanie Lobdell, MDiv, is a pastor and writer. She served as co-lead pastor with her husband, Tommy, for ten years and is now the Campus Pastor at Mount Vernon Nazarene University in Ohio. She is the author of Signs of Life: Resurrecting Hope out of Ordinary Losses and co-author of Lenten Postcards. Stephanie and Tommy have two children, Josephine and Jack.Other applicable epi...2020-07-0332 minThe CartographersK.J. Ramsey on Suffering and HopeAshley Hales and K.J. Ramsey talk about loss and suffering as an invitation to God and community.K.J. RAMSEY (BA, Covenant College; MA, Denver Seminary) is a licensed professional counselor, writer, and recovering idealist who believes sorrow and joy coexist. Her writing has been published in Christianity Today, Relevant, The Huffington Post, Fathom Magazine, Health Central, and other publications on the integration of theology, psychology, and spiritual formation. She and her husband live in Denver, Colorado. Follow K.J.’s writing at kjramsey.com and across social media at @kjramseywrites.Tell us what you want t...2020-06-2533 minThe CartographersHeather Caliri on Befriending AnxietyAshley Hales and Heather Caliri talk about anxiety, vulnerability and church and what to do about it from a Christian perspective.Heather Caliri is a writer and artist who is happily content with being an awkward Christian. Tired of anxiety controlling your life? Try her mini-course, “Five Tiny Ideas for Managing Anxiety," for free here.LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS, GOOGLE PODCASTS and MEGAPHONE.FM or your favorite podcast-listening app.Other applicable episodes: episode 49 on hustle, episode 21 on mental illness and a Christian imagination, and episode 37 on ovewhelm and a rule of life....2020-06-1831 minThe Cartographers49: Daniel Im on Hustle CultureIn this conversation Ashley Hales and Daniel Im talk about hustle culture and what the lies about our work tell us about our souls.LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS, GOOGLE PODCASTS and MEGAPHONE.FM or your favorite podcast-listening app.LINKSDaniel’s book, You Are What You Do: https://amzn.to/2UvwwxcDaniel’s website: https://www.danielim.com/New Churches Q&A Podcast: https://www.danielim.com/new-churches-qa-podcast/The ImBetween Podcast: https://www.danielim.com/imbetweenpodcast/SPECIAL OFFER: Counseling with Faithful Counseling — get 10...2020-06-0933 minThe Cartographers46: Meredith McDaniel on Finding God's Steadfastness NowHow do we live when circumstances are wonderful or when we’re in the middle of anxiety and fear? Meredith McDaniel, author of In Want + Plenty and invites us into spiritual practices to sustain our weariness, increase our vulnerability, be a real community, and see the provision of God.LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS, GOOGLE PODCASTS and MEGAPHONE.FM or your favorite podcast-listening app. LINKSMeredith’s site: https://www.meredithmcdaniel.com/Her book, In Want + Plenty: https://amzn.to/3adGyrBMorning pages, an idea from Julia Came...2020-04-1633 minThe CartographersSteven Garber on The Seamless LifeDon’t you long for your life to feel seamless — not boxed into categories or feelings? This lovely conversation with the brilliant and kind Steven Garber is one step in the right direction.Join us as we talk about place, spiritual disciplines, family stories, and the invitation to live an integrated, whole life.LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS, GOOGLE PODCASTS and MEGAPHONE.FM or your favorite podcast-listening app. LINKSSteven’s most recent book, The Seamless Life (available on ebook now from Amazon and InterVarsity Press, and in...2020-04-0935 minThe CartographersCivic Housekeeping and Dietrich Bonhoeffer with Laura FabryckyLaura Fabrycky and I talk about how people belong to people and places, about our choices for the good of community, acedia, and what Bonhoeffer has to teach us today.Laura M. Fabrycky is a American writer and poet, currently residing in Brussels, Belgium. She is the author, most recently, of Keys to Bonhoeffer's Haus: Exploring the World and Wisdom of Dietrich Bonhoeffer (Fortress Press, 2020), a historically grounded memoir of her experience as a volunteer guide at the Bonhoeffer-Haus during her family's diplomatic assignment to Berlin, Germany. She focuses on questions of political theology and the moral ima...2020-04-0238 minThe Cartographers43: Karla Reed on Generosity, Spending, and Creativity during a PandemicJoin us for this special bonus episode with Karla Reed, a style influencer on Instagram and a Christian. We're not economists (at all!) but we talk about all the confusion about how to think about our spending during the current pandemic. Do we support local businesses? Do we go on a spending freeze? How do we use our money in wise and generous ways when the future is uncertain? Listen in to Karla’s pathways towards generosity and her own rooting practices.Karla Reed uses Instagram to educate women on sustainable fashion, help women be creative with wh...2020-03-3034 minThe Cartographers42 Lent with Lore -- Cultivating Hope NowJoin us for a special series in the month of March on Lenten practices with Lore Ferguson Wilbert. This week, we’re all in need of hope. Join us.Lore is a writer, thinker, learner, and author of Handle with Care. She writes for She Reads Truth, Christianity Today, Lifeway, and more, as well as her own site, Sayable.net. You can find her on social media @lorewilbert. She has a husband named Nate, a puppy named Harper Nelle, and too many books to read in one lifetime.Listen at Megaphone.fm here, on Apple Podc...2020-03-2628 minThe CartographersAnchoring Points in a PandemicThis week, Lore Ferguson Wilbert and I take a break and talk about finding anchoring points during COVID_19.Lore is a writer, thinker, learner, and author of Handle with Care. She writes for She Reads Truth, Christianity Today, Lifeway, and more, as well as her own site, Sayable.net. You can find her on social media @lorewilbert. She has a husband named Nate, a puppy named Harper Nelle, and too many books to read in one lifetime.LINKSLore’s website: Sayable.netLore’s book...2020-03-1916 minThe CartographersLent with Lore Ferguson Wilbert -- On Fasting + FeastingJoin us for a special series in the month of March on Lenten practices with Lore Ferguson Wilbert — this week’s is on rhythms of fasting and feasting.Lore is a writer, thinker, learner, and author of Handle With Care. She writes for She Reads Truth, Christianity Today, Lifeway, and more, as well as her own site, Sayable.net. You can find her on social media @lorewilbert. She has a husband named Nate, a puppy named Harper Nelle, and too many books to read in one lifetime.LINKSLore...2020-03-1229 minThe Cartographers39 Lent with Lore Ferguson Wilbert: On BodiesThe Church has historically practiced Lent as a period of preparation for Easter. What does it have to do with our bodies? Why does this matter to our spiritual lives?Join me and Lore Ferguson Wilbert for a special four-week series on Lent.Lore Ferguson Wilbert is a writer, thinker, learner, and author of Handle With Care. She writes for She Reads Truth, Christianity Today, Lifeway, and more, as well as her own site, Sayable.net. You can find her on social media @lorewilbert. She has a husband named Nate, a puppy named Harper Nelle, an...2020-03-0528 minThe CartographersJake Meador on Loneliness and the Common GoodIf the social fabric has broken down, what do we do about it? What might Christians have to offer our neighbors who are in search of the common good? We talk everything from loneliness, work, and ideas about how the church can be good neighbors, and how to build real community.Join me as I chat with Jake Meador — he’s the author of In Search of the Common Good and editor-in-chief of Mere Orthodoxy. He lives with his wife and three children in Lincoln, Nebraska.LISTEN on APPLE PODCASTS OR ONLINE AT MEGAPHONE, or wher...2020-02-0635 minThe Cartographers34 Suburban Bootcamp -- Suburban Secularism + How to Develop a Gospel IdentityFor three weeks, our Suburban Bootcamp helps you take the big ideas of secularism and connect the dots to your everyday, holy life. How do we live ordinary lives well in a secular age? Here’s some practical places to start.Bryce Hales (church planter at Resurrection Orange County) and Ashley Hales talk about freedom and secularism, how social media changes us, and how secularism affects those of us who live in suburbs and live rather ordinary lives. We talk about secularism of the right, give you some resources, and help you connect the dots between secularism an...2020-01-3034 minThe CartographersSuburban Bootcamp -- Suburban Secularism + Building ResilienceFor three weeks, our Suburban Bootcamp helps you take the big ideas of secularism and connect the dots to your everyday, holy life. How do we live ordinary lives well in a secular age? Here’s some practical places to start.Bryce Hales (church planter at Resurrection Orange County) and Ashley Hales talk about freedom and secularism, how social media changes us, and how secularism affects those of us who live in suburbs and live rather ordinary lives. We talk about secularism of the right, give you some resources, and help you connect the dots between secularism an...2020-01-2330 minThe CartographersSuburban Secularism in a Digital AgeFor the month of January, our Suburban Bootcamp helps you take the big ideas of secularism and connect the dots to your everyday, holy life. How do we live ordinary lives well in a secular age? Here’s some practical places to start.Bryce Hales (church planter at Resurrection Orange County) and Ashley Hales talk about freedom and secularism, how social media changes us, and how secularism affects those of us who live in suburbs and live rather ordinary lives. We talk about secularism of the right, give you some resources, and help you connect the dots be...2020-01-1629 minThe CartographersKate Bowler on The Preacher's WifeKate Bowler, academic and author, writes about women and power in Christian circles in her latest book, The Preacher’s Wife: The Precarious Power of Evangelical Women Celebrities. Ashley Hales was able to interview Kate Bowler courtesy of The Englewood Review of Books. You can read the interview at The Englewood Review. Thanks to Englewood, here’s a longer version of the article that appeared in print.We talk about roles of women, authenticity, forms of power, and what cuts it in the marketplace and in institutions. This is not an episode to miss!At the...2020-01-0938 minThe CartographersAdvent with Jen Pollock Michel -- Week 4: Follow the FoodWe’re busy and yet we want to connect with God. Listen in to these four weeks of short conversations that you can listen to in the midst of your real life with Ashley Hales and Jen Pollock Michel. We talk about the reality of December with busy schedules and messy pine needles and how to meet God in the real instead of the ideal.Listen in wherever you listen to podcasts!*A quick note: I wanted to let you know that we’ve changed podcast hosts. So make sure you’ve subscribed to this RSS fe...2019-12-2327 minThe CartographersAdvent with Jen Pollock Michel Week 3We’re busy and yet we want to connect with God. Listen in to these four weeks of short conversations that you can listen to in the midst of your real life with Ashley Hales and Jen Pollock Michel. We talk about the reality of December with busy schedules and messy pine needles and how to meet God in the real instead of the ideal.Listen in wherever you listen to podcasts!*A quick note: I wanted to let you know that we’ve changed podcast hosts. So make sure you’ve subscribed to this RSS fe...2019-12-1823 minThe CartographersAdvent with Jen Pollock Michel -- Week 2: What's the cost of your 'yes'We’re busy and yet we want to connect with God. Listen in to these four weeks of short conversations that you can listen to in the midst of your real life with Ashley Hales and Jen Pollock Michel. We talk about the reality of December with busy schedules and messy pine needles and how to meet God in the real instead of the ideal.Listen in wherever you listen to podcasts!LINKSJen’s reflections on Advent are available to her email subscribers here.Jen’s book, Surprised by Paradox (which...2019-12-1121 min
The Cartographers27: Advent with Jen Pollock Michel: Embrace the RealWe’re busy and yet we want to connect with God. Listen in to these four weeks of short conversations that you can listen to in the midst of your real life with Ashley Hales and Jen Pollock Michel. We talk about the reality of December with busy schedules and messy pine needles and how to meet God in the real instead of the ideal.LINKSJen’s reflections on Advent are available to her email subscribers here.Jen’s book, Surprised by Paradox (which has a section on the incarnation).Ashley...2019-12-0421 min
The Cartographers26: On Place: Where do we go from here?After three great episodes on how our places shape our loves and what we do about it as believers, Ashley Hales and Brandon J. O’Brien give listeners a road map for what to do next. We invite you into a thicker discussion about faith and culture here at the Finding Holy Podcast.LINKSWin a free book here: aahales.com/giveawayAshley’s book: amzn.to/2OdABDiBrandon’s book: amzn.to/2DcVqskJose’s book: amzn.to/2QH0NIeSHAREEven with different places an...2019-12-0133 min
The Cartographers25: On Place with José HumphreysOur places shape our loves. Can the church stick with a place? We continue this mini-series in November on place with series co-host, Brandon J. O’Brien, and today we bring in José Humphreys of East Harlem, NYC.José Humphreys is a facilitator and pastor of Metro Hope Covenant Church, a multiethnic and multicultural church in East Harlem, New York City. He is also a social worker, consultant and author. Humphreys is involved in shalom-making in New York City through facilitating conversation, contemplation, and action across social, economic, cultural, and theological boundaries.Catch the first epis...2019-11-2035 min
The Cartographers22: A Special AnnouncementIn this interlude, Ashley Hales introduces one small step to push back against the consumerism that wants to form us in its image AND an invitation to a special series on place coming up in November with Brandon J. O’Brien, Dennae Pierre, and Jose Humphreys.Right now, be entered to win a free book bundle on place: fill out your form here! Share with your friends!SHAREIn November, get a chance to win one of over 100 books given away on place! Head to aahales.com/giveaway“Our loves are actu...2019-10-3007 min
The Cartographers18: Aubrey Sampson on Developing the Language and Faith to LamentWe talk about pain, suffering and lament and where to find hope in this episode with Aubrey Sampson. If you feel like you’re praying to the ceiling fan or can’t find God, then this episode is for you. This is a rich conversation that will help you develop a vocabulary for pain and lament. If you’ve lost someone, are disappointed, have chronic pain, or know someone who does, please have a listen.Aubrey is a church planter and the director of discipleship and equipping at Renewal Church, the author of The Louder Song and Overco...2019-10-0230 min
The Cartographers10: Suburban bootcamp: Hospitality for Busy PeopleOn this second edition of a “Suburban Bootcamp,” Bryce and Ashley Hales talk together about how the gospel reorients our relationships vertically with God and horizontally with others. So how do we make the mental shift from the allure of convenience to moving outwards towards others? Hospitality flows from God who has made room for us — seen most clearly in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Ashley posed a few helpful diagnostic questions as we think about hospitality and making room:SOME QUESTIONSWhere am I making room in my time?2019-01-2218 min
The Cartographers9: Suburban BootcampIt’s 2019! Welcome back to The Finding Holy Podcast, where we connect the dots between the things that matter and your everyday, holy life. Before we kick off season 2, we’re going to have a three-week interlude. During these three weeks, I sit down with my husband and pastor, Bryce Hales, and we host a little suburban boot camp. It’s short. It’s sweet and it will give you some concrete action to take. This first session we talk about the allure of convenience and how consumerism has infiltrated the church. Listen in for a sh...2019-01-1518 min
The Cartographers8: Sam Wheatley on the spirituality of parking in New York CityMy guest this week is Rev. Sam Wheatley, who we met when he was our pastor in Salt Lake city, UT. Whereas we’ve moved on to church planting in the SoCal suburbs, Sam and his wife Kate have moved back to NYC. Sam is the Executive Pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church Downtown. He and his wife, Kate, have three grown children. Places form our loves. They also form our habits. I’d noticed how Sam was chronicling his new life in NYC on Instagram and how moving the car had become a spiritual space for contemplation and exploration. I wa...2018-12-1829 min