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The ChangeS4 Ep 4: Sarah Megginson on how menopause impacts our financesLaura and Cathy chat to money expert and writer Sarah Megginson to discuss the significant financial challenges women face, particularly in midlife. They discuss the impact of the gender pay gap, unconscious bias, and the effects of peri and menopause on income. Sarah emphasises the importance of financial education and awareness, sharing practical tips for managing finances and advocating for better support systems for families. The discussion also touches on Sarah’s personal experience acting as a surrogate for Lisa Messenger and the positive and surprising impact it has had...2025-07-2357 min
Inside the Wellspace: Women, Wellbeing, Wisdom with Cathy O'BrienRelationship Abuse Isn’t Just Physical: The Truth About Emotional Abuse and Coercive ControlHave you ever questioned your reality in a relationship?In this powerful solo episode, host Cathy O’Brien opens up about an issue that affects 1 in 4 reported women: emotional and psychological abuse in relationships.This isn’t about physical violence—it’s about the coercive, manipulative behaviors that chip away at a person’s identity, self-worth, and sense of reality. With recent high-profile abuse cases in the media, Cathy feels called to speak up and share what she’s learned through years of personal and professional work.This episode brings language, clarity, and validation t...2025-07-2335 minThe ChangeS4 Ep 3: The unexpected joy of caring for an ageing parentCathy and Laura chat to Claire Mason who has recently been through a lot of change. Claire shares her transformative journey of sobriety, the challenges and joys of caring for her ageing father, and her aspirations for the future beyond her career as a flight attendant.She discusses the importance of self-love and acceptance, especially during life changes such as perimenopause. Claire emphasises the beauty in caring for aging parents - her dad’s viral Reel - and the need for open conversations about end-of-life experiences. About Claire: Claire Mas...2025-07-1638 minThe ChangeS4 Ep 1: When too much change breaks us!Join Cathy and Laura as they open up about unexpected curveballs life threw their way leading up to Season Four. From grappling with unexpected evacuations to navigating the depths of mental health struggles. They lay bare the raw, emotional toll of profound change. Discover why leaning on community support became their lifeline and how, even in our hyper-connected world, finding genuine balance is more crucial than ever. This episode isn't just a conversation; it's a testament to resilience and the power of connection in the face of unseen battles.Hosts:Cathy O’Br...2025-07-0233 minThe ChangeBurnt Out in Midlife? Sophie’s survival guide - Cathy & Laura have a powerful chat with Sophie.This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Sophie Scott from Season 3 Episode 2Catch the best bits from our powerful chat with Sophie Scott OAM! Hear her firsthand experience surviving burnout after years as a medical reporter and her crucial advice on self-care and building healthy habits in midlife.Links for more about Sophie Scott OAM:Website YouTubeInstagram 2024 ShowreelBuy Sophie’s book 'Beat High Functioning Anxiety'Hosts:Cath...2025-06-2512 minThe Change‘My marriage ended and I was just so horny’ - Jayne tells Cathy & Laura about “finding herself” in her midlife.This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Jayne McCartney from Season 3 Episode 6 Enjoy the best moments from Cath and Laura's conversation with sexologist Jayne McCartney. This minisode touches on the importance of communication at all life stages, the variations in midlife sexuality, and Jayne's passionate advocacy for better support during milestones like menopause.With thanks to Jayne McCartney. Jayne McCartney’s instagram Jayne McCartney website Mentions: Come As You Are by Dr. Emily MetkoskiWelcome to Sex by...2025-06-1912 minThe Change“I went shopping for makeup aged 40 and felt invisible” Amanda talks to Laura & Cathy about why she became your Ageless beauty bestie.This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Amanda Ramsay from Season 3 Episode 4 Relive some of the best moments from our chat with Amanda Ramsay, your "ageless beauty bestie" and makeup artist specializing in women over 40. This minisode captures Amanda's inspiring career journey in the beauty industry and dives into her key insights. Hear about the pivotal moment that shifted her perspective on midlife makeup, even after years in the business. Plus, get a taste of her encouraging advice on experimenting with your look and the uplifting power of simple beauty routines....2025-06-1109 minThe Change“Writing a book with twin toddlers was a dumpster fire!’ - Kerryn describes writing her second bookThis minisode is an edit from our full interview with Kerryn Mayne from Season 3 Episode 9 Cathy and Laura catch up with the inspiring Kerryn Mayne. We discuss the realities of balancing life as a police officer, mother of four (including twins!), and author. Hear Kerryn's insights on the challenges and her strategies for finding time to write.With thanks to Kerryn Mayne. Kerryn Mayne’s instagram Kerryn Mayne websiteHosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https...2025-06-0414 minThe ChangeChange Your Kryptonite? Tracey shares her secrets on embracing change with Laura and CathyThis minisode is an edit from our full interview with Tracey Williams from Season 1 Episode 2Why do some people thrive on change while others struggle? Get the key insights from Cathy and Laura's conversation with clinical psychologist Tracey Williams. Discover the psychology behind our reactions to change and learn how to "flip the script" – even in tough times.Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas ...2025-05-2814 minThe Change‘No more strippers’ Anna launched a male escort agencyThis minisode is an edit from our full interview with Anna Grosman from Season 2 Episode 5.This week Cathy and Laura chat about female desire, male escorts and shame with Anna Grosman. Fifty-two-year-old Anna Grosman, is an accomplished entrepreneur with a passion for empowering women. As one of the founders of Aphrodisiac Male Escorts which thrived from 2012 – 2018, Anna is now the founder and owner of HerConfidant - an elite male escort agency for women. Warm, nurturing and no-nonsense, Anna advocates for female sexuality without stigma and shame. In fact...2025-05-1412 min
Inside the Wellspace: Women, Wellbeing, Wisdom with Cathy O'BrienWellness, Womanhood & Wake-Up Calls: Cathy O’Brien on Reclaiming HealthWhat happens when a woman leaves behind a successful corporate career to heal herself—and ends up building a sanctuary for others? In this deeply personal episode, Cathy O’Brien shares her remarkable transformation from brand executive to wellness leader and founder of The Wellspace for Women. Her story weaves through the challenges of motherhood, postpartum depression, toxic relationships, and a breast cancer diagnosis—each moment pushing her closer to her purpose.Now leading Naturopathica and creating spaces for women to connect and heal at The Wellspace in Connecticut and Manhattan, Cathy discusses the gaps in women’s health...2025-05-1414 min
Inside the Wellspace: Women, Wellbeing, Wisdom with Cathy O'BrienTRAILER: Inside the Wellspace: Women, Wellbeing, Wisdom with Cathy O'BrienInside the Wellspace is a podcast redefining women’s wellness—through a female lens. For too long, our health has been studied, diagnosed, and treated from a male perspective. Hosted by wellness advocate Cathy O’Brien, who brings 25+ years in global beauty, a masters in social work focusing on women’s issues, and her own deeply personal health journey, this show features real, honest conversations about the overlooked and critical aspects of women’s short and long term health and well-being.From hormones and mental resilience to sleep and bone health, Cathy sits down with top doctors and expert...2025-05-0701 minThe ChangeGeorgia Van Cuylenburg tells her side of the storyThis minisode is an edit from our full interview with Georgia Van Cuylenburg from Season 2 episode 9Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses eating disorders, child sexual violence, mental health, and trauma. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes.Georgia Van Cuylenburg, actor, podcaster and activist, knows a thing or two about resilience. While her story and name may be familiar, it’s not because of her words or work. Instead it is...2025-04-2312 minThe ChangeSummer Series Episode 3: Feminine energy and are we in a ‘doom loop’?Cathy and Laura talk about the current state of the world and the phenomenon some are referring h to as a ‘doom loop’. We unpack what that is and why we think the cause is all wrong.
We also discuss a brilliant article about the tech bros and their friends ruling the world and why this is not only hugely problematic but oh so cringe.
And it’s not all bad news - we look back at 2005 - the year of YouTube, Mariah Carey and Harry Potter mayhem.
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Are we in a ‘Doom...2025-01-2238 minThe ChangeSummer Series Episode 1: New Year, new… Meghan Markle?!From Y2K fears to 2025 goals, Cathy and Laura explore 25 years of change. We discuss evolving New Year's resolutions and embrace aging. Personal aspirations include reading more and new career paths. Meghan Markle's social media comeback and cooking show are also on the agenda and we have opinions!!
Twenty years on from the Boxing Day tsunami, we remember the devastation and celebrate improved warning systems. Then, it's a blast to the past, reliving the iconic movies and music of the vibrant 80s!
Mentions:
Netflix trailer - With love, Meghan
Spotify playlist...2025-01-0843 minThe ChangeSummer Series coming soon!This January, join Cathy and Laura for a bite-sized summer treat! From uplifting stories to their take on the not-so-great news items and maybe even a little WTF moment or two!
Expect plenty of laughs, juicy gossip and a sprinkle of summer recommendations. It’s the perfect way to catch up, stay in the know, and enjoy some light-hearted chats during your holiday break.
Hosts:
Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/
Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/
Audio Producer:
Marissa Roberts: https://www.i...2024-12-2301 minThe ChangeS3 Ep 13: The emotional and mental load of ChristmasIn this episode, the last of season three, Cathy and Laura reflect on the highlights of their podcasting year, discussing memorable guests and emotional moments.
As they approach the holiday season, they share their experiences with gift-giving, family dynamics, and the emotional load that comes with it, ultimately seeking to create new traditions that prioritise community over materialism.
Recommendations:
TV - The Last of Us on Binge
Podcast - Legacy
Book - The List by Yomi Adegoke
Hosts:
Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy...2024-11-2738 minThe ChangeBONUS Extended Cut Video: Gina Chick on grief, growth and ‘glorious rage’We couldn't get enough of Gina so we're bringing you this very special extended cut video version of Season 3, Episode 12 -Enjoy!
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Gina Chick has had her share of grief, discomfort and growth. She once sat literally alone with it all for 67 days in the Tasmanian wilderness to be the winner of Season 1 of Alone. In her incredible recently released book “We Are the Stars” Gina shares her journey from childhood wonder to navigating the complexities of adulthood and motherhood.
In this episode we talk to Gina about the importance of reconnecting with our i...2024-11-231h 08The ChangeS3 Ep 12: Gina Chick on grief, growth and ‘glorious rage’Gina Chick has had her share of grief, discomfort and growth. She once sat literally alone with it all for 67 days in the Tasmanian wilderness to be the winner of Season 1 of Alone. In her incredible recently released book “We Are the Stars” Gina shares her journey from childhood wonder to navigating the complexities of adulthood and motherhood.
In this episode we talk to Gina about the importance of reconnecting with our inner child, the natural rhythms of life, while also addressing the grief and letting go that comes with motherhood. We talk about the need for women...2024-11-201h 03The ChangeS3 BONUS: The women are not okay!In this bonus conversation, Cathy and Laura do a debrief on what just happened in the US now that Trump has been voted in… again.
They reflect on how the result is making them and women around the world feel and the scary emboldening of far right extremists and misogynists.
The discussion delves into why it’s important to check your privilege and some hopeful thoughts about what’s ahead for Australia.
Recommendations:
Leigh Sales article on why the Democrats lost
Article explainer on the 4B movement
Hosts:
2024-11-0833 minThe ChangeS3 Ep 10: Gen X are being phased but we will not go quietlyIn this conversation, Cathy and Laura reconnect after five weeks apart, sharing personal updates about their lives, including challenges faced during travels, the impact of grief and their big feelings about the current U.S. election.
In this episode’s change chat ‘big theme’, Cathy and Laura explore the complexities of ageing, nostalgia, and the generational shifts in identity and relevance.
They reflect on the physical and mental challenges of ageing, and the bittersweet nature of facing inevitable losses while also still trying to look forward to joyful moments.
The discussion delves into the feel...2024-11-0647 minThe ChangeS3 Ep 9: How does she do it all? - Twins, Career and International author Kerryn MayneCathy and Laura chat with Kerryn about her busy life as a police officer, mother of four, and author. They discuss the challenges of raising twins, dealing with intrusive questions, and finding time to write.
Kerryn shares her approach to fitting writing into her schedule, using short bursts of time and setting goals. She also talks about her inspiration for writing crime fiction and creating memorable characters.
It is a powerful interview highlighting the importance of supporting and encouraging others, as well as the power of storytelling.
With thanks to Kerryn Mayne.
...2024-10-3152 minThe ChangeS3 Ep 5: Finding Joy in FriendshipCath and Laura chat about all the complexities of friendship, grief, and the challenges of making connections as adults.
Cath shares that exhausting admin load that many women feel when planning a holiday.
Laura shares her emotional toll of losing a dear friend and the importance of nurturing friendships throughout life.
Cath and Laura highlight the importance of community and support during difficult times, as well as the joy and comfort that friendships bring.
Article:
Making new friends when you're over 40 is hard, but this is why it's necessary - La...2024-10-0337 minThe ChangeS3 Ep 4: A midlife make-up expert on why you shouldn’t wait to wear that bright red lippy.Laura and Cathy chat to Amanda Ramsay, the ageless beauty bestie and makeup artist for women over 40, about her career journey in the beauty industry and some of her best tips and tricks.
After being asked so many questions about make-up from her female friends in their midlife, Amanda talks about the pivotal moment in a department store when she noticed how she too suddenly felt differently about makeup. Even after working in the industry!
She emphasises how she still loves to experiment and have fun with her look and gives advice about just ‘trying ou...2024-09-2544 minThe ChangeS3 Ep 2: Sophie Scott OAM on surviving burnout in midlifeCathy and Laura interview Sophie Scott OAM, a former medical reporter for the ABC turned author, keynote speaker and Associate Professor (Adj) at Notre Dame University.
They discuss Sophie's experience covering the COVID-19 pandemic, the challenges of health communication, and the importance of focusing on mental wellbeing.
Sophie shares her many career highlights and talks about her own experience with burnout and the need for self-care and habit-building.
Links for more about Sophie Scott OAM:
Website
YouTube
Instagram
2024 Showreel
Buy Sophie’s book ‘Beat High...2024-09-1156 minThe ChangeS3 Ep 1: The one thing we don’t talk about enough in midlifeCathy and Laura are back for season 3 with a chatty catch up on their current life happenings. Laura is feeling reflective while on a career ‘sabbatical’ as Cathy fights cyber crime* in her new job.
The duo discuss the one thing we don’t discuss often enough about midlife and why we need to do it more - if not for us, then the next generation of women!
*Cathy is not actually fighting cyber crime rather she is bringing awareness to it, but this sounded bad ass.
Recommendations:
Laura's podcast - The Shif...2024-09-0443 minThe ChangeS3 Trailer: Catch up with the duo ahead of season 3Cathy and Laura have a quick catch up ahead of season 3 to tell you a little about what’s ahead.
Cathy also shares some big family news that brings her to tears (happy ones) and the duo discuss what it means to be a parent as the kids grow up.
Hosts:
Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/
Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/
Audio Producer:
Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/
Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully indepe...2024-08-2619 minThe ChangeS2 Ep 10: In her own words part 2 - Georgia Van Cuylenburg on family and resilienceTrigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses eating disorders, child sexual violence, mental health, and trauma. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes.
Georgia Van Cuylenburg, actor, podcaster and activist, knows a thing or two about resilience.
While her story and name may be familiar, it’s not because of her words or work. Instead it is the words and work of her brothers Hugh and Josh Van Cuylenburg the hosts of the award-winning podcast, The Imperfects.
Until now...2024-06-2935 minThe ChangeS2 Ep 9: In her own words - Georgia Van Cuylenburg on family and resilienceTrigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses eating disorders, child sexual violence, mental health, and trauma. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes.
Georgia Van Cuylenburg, actor, podcaster and activist, knows a thing or two about resilience.
While her story and name may be familiar, it’s not because of her words or work. Instead it is the words and work of her brothers Hugh and Josh Van Cuylenburg the hosts of the award-winning podcast, The Imperfects.
Until now...2024-06-2756 minThe ChangeS2 Ep 7: Discretion Dressing and a midlife woman’s right to ‘bare arms’This week Cathy and Laura discuss a recent article published in The Cut called ‘The Power of Discretion after 60’
Is it better to ‘dress for your age’ or dress how ever the feck you want? Laura and Cathy discuss the theory behind the article and how the ideas have played out in their own lives.
The duo also share recommendations with links below.
Hosts:
Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/
Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/
Recommendations:
-Heist Creative - Branding photo...2024-06-1236 minThe ChangeS2 Ep 5: Male escorts, sex and desire: Anna Grosman on what women wantThis week Cathy and Laura chat about female desire, male escorts and shame with Anna Grosman.
Fifty-two-year-old Anna Grosman, is an accomplished entrepreneur with a passion for empowering women. As one of the founders of Aphrodisiac Male Escorts which thrived from 2012 – 2018, Anna is now the founder and owner of HerConfidant - an elite male escort agency for women.
Warm, nurturing and no-nonsense, Anna advocates for female sexuality without stigma and shame. In fact, she’ll be the reassuring voice you’ll hear on the phone if and when you decide to book an appointment!
Hosts:2024-05-3049 minThe ChangeS2 Ep 2: A GP explains how just 15 minutes in nature each day can transform you .. especially in midlifeDr Dimity Williams is a mother, nature lover, family doctor and advocate of nature protection for health’s sake.
She is also the author of Nature, Our Medicine: How the natural world sustains us.
On this episode Dr Williams chat to Cathy and Laura about writing ‘nature prescriptions’ for her patients and why just a few minutes in nature each day can help our mental and physical health. She describes the numerous benefits of being in nature for adults and why unstructured play outdoors will always be important for kids.
Finally, we chat about...2024-05-0953 minThe ChangeS2 Ep 1: Giving less f#%ks, g-string undies, and why the washing up matters.Cathy and Laura are back for season 2!
Just a warning this episode contains a bit of swearing so don’t listen around little ears if this is a worry for you.
Catch up with Cathy and Laura as they have a change chat about all the things that have been tumbling through their minds over the season break.
They reflect on their recent birthdays, life, relationships and other things women in their midlife are talking about ahead of season 2.
Most importantly what prompts Cathy to say “We just don’t have time to give...2024-05-0243 min
The ChangeThe Change Podcast: Season 2 is Coming Soon!Season 2 of The Change Podcast is Coming Soon!
Hosts:
Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/
Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/
Audio Producer:
Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/
Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.
We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!
Send us a voice message here: https://p...2024-04-3002 minThe ChangeBonus Ep 11: Adventure and self-acceptance - the changes we still want to make in midlife.In this bonus episode we reflect on a fantastic first season and pull out some of our biggest learnings.
Cathy explains why she feels less invisible than she did at the start of season 1 and Laura shares some of the changes she wasn’t honest about in episode 1.
This is the last episode in season 1 and we’ll be back in May 2024 with more inspirational, smart women telling great stories about change for season 2.
Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/
Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/
...2024-03-1428 minThe ChangeEp 10: Jessie Stephens on new motherhood and big changesOur last episode for season one is with the phenomenal and incredibly accomplished Jessie Stephens. We all worked together at Mamamia and it a fabulous episode where we talk to Jessie about motherhood, writing a book (or two in Jessie’s case), being an aunty and everything in between.
Anyone who is a Mamamia follower might remember the disagreement that Mia and Jessie had about being a stay at home mum. Mia took the side that being a stay at home mum is intellectually boring and not very stimulating, and at the time Jessie thought that it woul...2024-03-0638 minThe ChangeEp 9: Flipping the script on invisibility in midlife - one woman’s joy after 50Not everyone hits 50 and feels invisible as today’s guest proves! Meet Teresa McNamara, a makeup guru and single parent to two now adult women who upended her life in her mid-forties and just a few years later was the happiest she has ever been.
At 50 she married her soulmate, and at 53 she launched her YouTube channel thats filled with relatable and practical makeup and skincare tutorials.
Always filter free and realistic - Teresa is a product enthusiast and collector who wants to help other women look and feel good at any age.
Forg...2024-02-2833 minThe ChangeEp 8: One woman’s shock at discovering she was the family secretImagine discovering in your mid-thirties that you were adopted and had a whole other family that had been searching for you for years?
For Louise Wilkinson, dance school director and motivational speaker, this is exactly what happened when she received a surprise letter in the mail from her biological mother.
But rather than let this shock news upend her life in a negative way, the letter and the huge changes that followed, were an opportunity for Louise to invite more love into her life.
We chat to Louise about how she dealt with dis...2024-02-2135 minThe ChangeEp 7: Divorce, dating and HRT - a chat about some very big life changes.Writer, mother and self-confessed over-sharer Cathrine Mahoney has been through some big changes in the last decade. She split from former NRL player and TV commentator, Andrew Johns, and began dating again in her forties.
She went from a career as a publicist to a podcaster, author and TV panel regular.
We chat to Cathrine about all of these big career and relationship changes, as well as what happened when she recently began experiencing perimenopausal symptoms and started taking HRT.
Credits:
Cathrine Mahoney’s podcast ‘So I Quit Mt Day Job’: https...2024-02-1437 minThe ChangeEp 6: The truth about juggling your dream job with motherhood.Lizza Gebilagin is a writer, podcaster and former editor-in-chief of Women’s Health magazine. She’s also a super fit mum who didn’t let a pandemic stop her pursuing her dreams!
We chat to Lizza about her huge career changes that saw her leap from magazines to digital and back again and how she really managed the motherhood juggle alongside her dream editor-in-chief job.
We discuss Lizza’s amazing career pivots during Covid and her foray into the world of professional boxing in her thirties!
Mentions:
Lizza Gebilagin https://3amhuddle.substack.co...2024-02-0731 minThe ChangeEp 5: Ageism is never in style: one woman’s campaign to change the rules.In this extended episode we have a heartfelt conversation with Jacynth Bassett all the way from the UK, we explore her reasons for the creation of The Bias Cut. Jacynth's vision for The Bias Cut has blossomed into a beacon of change in the fashion industry in the UK and beyond.
We explore the origins of The Bias Cut, its impact on age-inclusive fashion, and the powerful narrative behind this initiative. We talk about the moment she knew that Ageism is Never in Style was going to be bigger than she could have hoped and when #ilookmyage b...2024-01-3152 minThe ChangeEp 4: The ‘otherhood’ - who we become when our kids grow up.When we are parents to littles we all have this vision that when our littles become big, being a parent will be somehow easier. So what happens to our sense of who we are when we get relegated to the sidelines and are no longer the participant parent in our kids' lives?
In this episode we speak with Bron about life as a mum and how this has evolved over the past nearly 20 years, and what she is most looking forward to in her third act!
Bron is a passionate advocate for working parents. She has...2024-01-2448 minThe ChangeEp 3: Love changes everything: when Amy met LauraHave you heard of the term “sexually nebulous”? We hadn’t prior to speaking with Amy!
This episode we speak with Amy Lovat about her big change - falling in love with her soulmate Laura after years of dating men.
Amy is the author of Mistakes and Other Lovers, founder of Secret Book Stuff and program manager of the Newcastle Writers Festival.
Credits:
Amy Lovat: https://www.instagram.com/thatamylovat/
Amy’s article for the Guardian on meeting Laura:
https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/aug/20/the-moment-i-knew-i-had-a-realisation-if-the-plane-crashed-id-die-without-laura-knowing-i-loved-her
Cathy O’Bri...2024-01-1743 minThe ChangeEp 2: A psychologist shares her secrets to embracing changeHave you ever wondered why some people breeze through change and others find it to be their kryptonite?
We speak to Tracey Williams a registered clinical psychologist about the psychology of change. She helps us unpack some of the big questions around change, and we also talk about how it is possible to ‘flip the script’ on change and get a little more comfortable with it even in the darkest moments.
Credits:
Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/
Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/
Audio Pro...2024-01-1041 minThe ChangeEp 1: Unexpected midlife changes that shocked and rocked usGet to know Laura and Cathy, your hosts of The Change as we chat about some of our biggest life changes in recent times that have shocked or rocked us.
We get real about how we feel about change with no judgment or shame and we discuss our experiences and feelings about “The Change”, a life stage otherwise known as the menopause and perimenopause.
Mentions:
Cathy’s article:
'I'm in my early fifties, and I feel like I'm becoming invisible.' https://www.mamamia.com.au/invisibility-of-older-women/
Laura’s article: 2024-01-0335 min
Trance Formation PodcastCompound FelonyRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/compound-felony/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-07-1808 min
Trance Formation PodcastTRANCEferenceRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/tranceference/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-07-1609 min
Trance Formation PodcastNew Clear InsightRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/new-clear-insight/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-05-2706 min
Trance Formation PodcastFrontline PatriotsRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/frontline-patriots/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-05-2709 min
Trance Formation PodcastOrder of the RoseRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/order-of-the-rose/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-05-2713 min
Trance Formation PodcastAm I Right?Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/am-i-right/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-05-2007 min
Trance Formation PodcastFreedom is WithinRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/freedom-within/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-04-0806 min
Trance Formation PodcastTRANCEgenderRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/trancegender/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-04-0107 min
Trance Formation PodcastHypNOsisRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/hypnosis/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-03-2209 min
Trance Formation PodcastBrief History of CensorshipRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/brief-history-censorship/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-03-1807 min
Trance Formation PodcastVoice of GodRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/voice-of-god/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-02-2806 min
Trance Formation PodcastGreatest GiftRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/greatest-gift/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2023-02-0509 min
Trance Formation PodcastDis BarrRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/dis-barr/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-12-2007 min
Trance Formation PodcastProject MonarchRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/project-monarch/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-12-1107 min
Trance Formation PodcastSecuring Midterm ElectionsRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/securing-midterm-electionsBuy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-10-1907 min
Trance Formation PodcastSee Through IllusionsRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/see-through-illusionsBuy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-10-0111 min
Trance Formation PodcastReMARKable MemoryRead the full article at: https://trance-formation.com/remarkable-memory/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at: https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-08-2210 min
Trance Formation PodcastMasculinity is Not ToxicRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/masculinity-not-toxic/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-07-1009 min
Trance Formation PodcastStop ComplyingRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/stop-complying/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-06-2708 min
Trance Formation PodcastNational Secrecy ActRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/national-secrecy-act/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-06-2009 min
Trance Formation PodcastTrudeau & MK UltraRead full article at:https://trance-formation.com/trudeau-mk-ultra/Buy Cathy O'Brien book at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-06-0206 min
Trance Formation PodcastMass/School Shootings & MK UltraRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/mass-shootings-mk-ultra/Buy Cathy O'Brien Books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-06-0206 min
Trance Formation PodcastCensoredRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/censored/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-05-1709 min
Trance Formation PodcastDisney UNderworldRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/disney-underworld/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-05-1408 min
Trance Formation PodcastMinistry of MK UltraRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/ministry-mk-ultra/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-05-0505 min
Trance Formation PodcastMK Ultra Mind Control ComponentsRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/mind-control-components/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-05-0509 min
Trance Formation PodcastSupreme UNjusticeRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/supreme-unjustice/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-04-2807 min
Trance Formation PodcastMadeleine AlbrightRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/madeleine-albrightBuy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-04-0306 min
Trance Formation PodcastResponse-AbilityRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/response-ability/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-02-0705 min
Trance Formation PodcastRepeatRead the full article at: https://trance-formation.com/repeat/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at: https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-01-3006 min
Trance Formation PodcastRegenesisRead the full article at: https://trance-formation.com/regenesis/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at: https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-01-2708 min
Trance Formation PodcastMask Formation PsychosisRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/mask-formation-psychosis/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-01-0807 min
Trance Formation PodcastJan 6Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/jan-6/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2022-01-0308 min
Trance Formation PodcastHuman Trafficking has Many FacesRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/human-trafficking-has-many-faces/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-12-3109 min
Trance Formation PodcastReSOULutions PoetryMy poetry is not conventional. It was written in my healing process to open neuron pathways in my brain while exercising free thought in new directions that pushed past trauma to SOULutions. Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/resoulutions-poetry/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-12-2615 min
Trance Formation PodcastUnraveling Epstein IslandRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/unraveling-epstein-island/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-12-1211 min
Trance Formation PodcastFreedom is WithinRead the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/freedom-is-within/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-12-0607 min
Trance Formation PodcastJFK. Did You Know?Read the Full Article at:https://trance-formation.com/jfk-did-you-know/Buy Cathy O'Brien Books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-11-1208 min
Trance Formation PodcastPresident Ronald ReaganPresident Ronald Reagan suffered undue influence in the wake of his assassination attempt by globalists hellbent on steering him and his Administration into their New World Order agenda. Mind control’s sliding scale must be factored into the equation in order that We the People effectively reclaim personal and national sovereignty from continued erosion of Constitutional values of Freedom and Justice for All. Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/president-ronald-reagan/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-09-2307 min
Trance Formation PodcastWe The People ReunionWe the People Reunion event held in rural Kentucky over 9-11-21 drew thousands of people together to share truth among themselves and listen to the most brilliant minds in the country speak out on SOULutions to reclaiming personal and national sovereignty. Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/we-the-people-reunion/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-09-2309 min
Trance Formation PodcastLive the Love You AreMy daughter, Kelly, was being confined and abused in an ignorant and corrupted mental hellth and criminal justice system, and I couldn’t stop it any more than I had been able to protect either of us from our torturous MK Ultra mind control existence... Read the full article:https://trance-formation.com/live-the-love-you-are/Buy Cathy O'Brien books:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-08-1206 min
Trance Formation PodcastCovid "Deep Sleep" DeltaHave you noticed that the more frantic New World Order perpeTraitors become the more they tip their hand; and the more they tip their hand the more the Great Awakening takes to the streets worldwide in protest; and the more people wake up from mind control masked as a virus the more frantic New World Order perpeTraitors become? Read full article at:https://trance-formation.com/deep-sleep-delta/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-07-3004 min
Trance Formation PodcastThink About ItForced into the swamp with perpeTraitors under their MK Ultra mind control, my outside information intake was totally restricted and censored. My abusers knew that I was highly suggestible from torture and trauma, and therefore they chose my “education”, music, books, and which tv shows I could watch… much like they are doing to you today.... Read the full article:https://trance-formation.com/think-about-it/Buy Cathy O'Brien books:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-07-2508 min
Trance Formation PodcastBeing AuthenticSpin the clock back before tv and imagine for a moment what it would be like to formulate your own thoughts free of outside intrusion....Read full article:https://trance-formation.com/being-authenticBuy Cathy O'Brien books:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-07-1906 min
Trance Formation PodcastMake it Right/WriteReligiously following leaders that we did not elect simply because their big government overreach extends into their media voice that ‘fact checks’ our votes for u.s. has left our brains lazy... Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/make-it-right/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-07-0906 min
Trance Formation PodcastEyes to SeeI did not know my own name when Intelligence insider Mark Phillips rescued my daughter and me from the Wash DC swamp, where I had been tortured so extensively for MK Ultra mind control human trafficking ops that I could not think to know who I was, where I had been, or how to escape.... Read the full article:https://trance-formation.com/eyes-to-see/Buy Cathy O'Brien books:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-06-2707 min
Trance Formation PodcastPerpeTraitor Bill BennettBill Bennett is currently sliming his way out of the Wash DC swamp into patriot circles. Research and fact-check for yourself who Bill Bennett really is! Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/perpetraitor-bill-bennett/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-05-1508 min
Trance Formation PodcastFAQs: Helping ritually abused and trafficked childrenI hear daily from good people wondering what they can do to help stop human trafficking proliferating over and within our borders, as well as effectively help the survivors. Due to overwhelming satanic traumas being used to control victims, including children, many compassionate people of various faiths and religions are reaching out to help. I am encouraged by the wisdom expressed in seeking how to help when many cult religions inadvertently reprogram rather than deprogram due to blurred lines of beliefs adversely affecting the heightened suggestibility of survivors.Read the full article at:https://t...2021-04-0326 min
Trance Formation PodcastPsychological WarfareOriginally published by Cathy O'Brien on June 8, 2017.Psychological Warfare is being waged against u.s. all in an effort to divide and conquer our nation in keeping with an entrenched Shadow Government/globalist agenda.Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/psychological-warfare/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-03-3109 min
Trance Formation PodcastFace FactsMasks used for mind control purposes is not new. It’s time we wake up and face facts that mind control masked as a virus has been deliberately unleashed on the world as a mechanism to Reset global finances, allegiances, our thoughts, and ultimately our actions.Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/face-facts/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-03-0810 min
Trance Formation PodcastOne Light of TruthPositive change seems as slow to emerge as the awareness of truth that inspires it.Negative change appears to happen at warp speed, perpetuated by trauma and our resultant freeze-in- fear reaction. Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/one-light-of-truthBuy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-02-1404 min
Trance Formation PodcastCommon SensesIt is common sense that our physical senses of sight, hearing, smell, taste, and feel are sacred. Yet we have allowed our sacred senses-common sense included-to be eroded by mind control masked as a virus. Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/common-senses/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-01-2205 min
Trance Formation PodcastChoice is YoursChoose to live your freedom. Take off your mask in order to exercise your voice with those around you- eye to eye, heart to heart, and soul to soul again. Choice is yours.Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/choice-is-yours/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2021-01-1105 min
Trance Formation PodcastAre You Aware?Forced deep in the Wash DC swamp with perpeTraitors under their MK Ultra mind control, I learned their inner operations and plans. Now that I have reclaimed free thought self-control through methods detailed in PTSD: Time to Heal, I clearly see how their New World Order coup is being orchestrated today through their global mind control agenda.Read the article:https://trance-formation.com/are-you-aware/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2020-11-2306 min
Trance Formation PodcastPedophile AgendaI gained much insight into the pedophile agenda while forced into the swamp with perpeTraitors under their MK Ultra mind control. Abuse prior to age 5 while the brain is still forming is considered the prime basis for mind control, which is a major component of their New World Order agenda. In turn, mind control is consistent with human trafficking, which is their primary funding mechanism for implementing what Adolph Hitler first termed...Read the full article at:https://trance-formation.com/pedophile-agenda/Buy Cathy O'Brien books at:https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/2020-10-2309 min