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Integrated Rhythm39 [Special Rerelease]: I LOVE Fabric (w/DONNA M'SHANGA and LAURA WINDLEY)[This is a rerelease of Episode 39! Which we took off neeeding to tackle some editing problems. But it should be good now!]Singer, fashionista, and co-leader of the Mint Julep Jazz Band LAURA WINDLEY loves to make her own clothing. One day she got some African fabric from a friend. As a White American woman, what should she do with it? We call in an expert, DONNA M'SHANGA, co-founder of Zambia's renown ready-to-wear fashion house, Kamanga Wear. Enjoy the convo, video will be up on You Tube as well.Originally released April, 2023.2025-04-291h 34Integrated Rhythm53: The Woodside 5 (w/ LAUREL RYAN, JAVIER JOHNSON, & CARLA HEINEY)Chi-Chi and Bobby join fellow instructors LAUREL RYAN, JAVIER JOHNSON, and CARLA HEINEY to discuss a myriad of topics at this LIVE BEANTOWN episode! (...from 2023.) To those who don't know, LAUREL is a Black American woman instructor known for her Lindy Hop, solo jazz, and MCing, JAVIER (pronounced with a "J" as is his preference) is a Black American man instructor best known as a Balboa badass, but also does Lindy and some award-winning soul dancing, and CARLA is a White American woman and a living legend of the modern scene, being one of the most influential...2025-03-251h 01Integrated Rhythm52: Capital-C CreativityWas this one a good idea? We think so?Following a long red-eye flight and a certain Olympic break dancer's excuse for their performance, Bobby gives Chisomo a theoretical schpeel on values in Lindy Hop, and the problems of choosing one Black American value higher than others. Then they discuss. Shout-out to Shelby Johnson for inspirational posts. We're still learning, keep the conversation going!And of course, huge thanks to our patrons! (You can find us on patreon!)Sasha KJustnigelAnn Sofie...2025-02-2557 minIntegrated Rhythm51: "Hot Ones" (LIVE AT CAL BAL '24)Happy New Year! Let's celebrate with one of the greatest live episode experiences we have had, a HOT ONES-style panel we did at CALIFORNIA BALBOA CLASSIC in 2024. We've got special guests JENNIFER LEE, ANDREA GORDON, and MATT RICHEY, joining your hosts Chisomo and Bobby, all eating increasingly hotter wings while trying to tackle the hard questions. You get all the talk, all of the bravado, and none of the sound of us eating, hence why the episode is only 35 min. :) (Be on the lookout for the raw footage of the entire panel, on YouTube, coming soon!)
Speaking...2025-01-1734 minIntegrated Rhythm50: Recipes, Museum Pieces, Silliness, & Props (w/URSULA HICKS)50 EPISODES!! Oh, geeze. Recorded at HERRANG 2024. We joined with one of our great friends URSULA HICKS to discuss SO MUCH GOOD STUFF.
First, she tells us about Herrang's NEXT GENERATION PROJECT. Then, we play a little game where key words trigger Ursula to share some fun/enlightening/not-so-fun/hilarious dance situations that have taught us some important things.
Recently we have been using computer software to cut out background noise and help make the episode clear and easy and professional sounding. Sometimes it might sound weird or garbled, please forgive us as...2024-12-161h 11Integrated Rhythm49: It's All About the Feel (w/ SYLVIA SYKES)From Herrang 2024 comes a conversation with modern-era swing dancing legend SYLVIA SYKES! We discuss Balboa, old timers, judging, and so much more.
** Please note, due to recording conditions we did the best we could with the audio. Some of our software that cleans echoes and normalizes volume can cause a slight distortion occasionally in speech, but overall it sounds SO MUCH better than the original recording :)**
Huge thanks to our Patreon patrons!
Cassandra Filios
Kaydee Tower
Sasha K
Justnigel
Ann Sofie van...2024-10-0950 minIntegrated Rhythm48: The Call Is Coming From Inside the HouseChisomo & Bobby break down breakdancing at the 2024 Olympics and what Lindy Hoppers can take away from it. The answers are often just more questions. But some of the topics they hit upon are... accessibility in sports/arts, doo rags and zoot suits, trying to take politics out of a political dance, Lindy Hop at the Harvest Moon Ball, and the introduction of Caitlin Clark into the WNBA.
We don't blame you if you're tired of this conversation, we won't be upset if you skip this one. But if you haven't watched them yet, PLEASE watch some of...2024-08-281h 05Integrated Rhythm47: The Adult Circle (w/ MARIE N'DIAYE & FELIX BERGHALL)LIVE AT HERRANG 2024!
International Lindy Hop badasses Marie N'diaye (Phd) and Felix Berghall sit down with Chisomo & Bobby to discuss Blackness in the dance's history, culture, and classroom. You know, the small stuff.
Notes:
1. Audio only, no video this time.
2. We recorded in an echo-ey room and our fancy software did a great job of cutting out the echo however sometimes it makes us sound a little robotic or certain words may get a little garbled. Our apologies but trust us this is way better. (We're learning the...2024-07-151h 44Integrated Rhythm46: Cute in the face, cute in the waistChisomo & Bobby dive into a discussion on body types and the swing scene.
Huge thanks to our Patreon patrons!
Cassandra Filios
Kaydee Tower
Sasha K
Justnigel
Ann Sofie van Enis
Katja Alexandria
July Belber
Rebecca BurWei
Dee Mathews
Brooks Prumo
Jessie Brooks
Aryn Kelly
Audrey Bui
Ian Dawson
Karen Compos
McCormack
Amy Sorenson
Nika Jin
...2024-05-0352 minIntegrated Rhythm45: Dance as Healing (w/ ANTHONY CHEN & LAUREL RYAN)LIVE! at Beantown Lindy Hop Camp 2022, outside of Boston. Join ANTHONY CHEN & LAUREL RYAN as we discuss dance and healing, including a Q&A from audience members.
Please note: This was recorded just as the world seemed to be emerging from the Pandemic. 2024-03-1251 minIntegrated Rhythm44: A Little Party Injured 12Chisomo & Bobby react to episode 42's "The Gig," and discuss the act of Lindy Hop gigging and what it means to the art form. (Don't worry, we give a synopsis at the beginning.)
Huge thanks to our Patreon patrons!
Huge thanks to our Patrons!
Cassandra Filios
Kaydee Tower
Sasha K
Justnigel
Ann Sofie van Enis
Katja Alexandria
July Belber
Rebecca BurWei
Dee Mathews
Brooks Prumo
Jessie B...2024-01-0851 minIntegrated Rhythm43: Bobby vs. AmericaChisomo Selemani is a US Citizen now! (One of us... one of us... one of us...) So, for funsies, Bobby takes the citizenship test.2023-12-0456 minIntegrated Rhythm42: The Gig (w/ GABY COOK, AJ HOWARD, & LAURA GLAESS)International swing dance instructors and New York resident giggers GABY COOK, A.J. HOWARD, LAURA GLAESS, and Bobby White tell Chisomo the story of a recent gig they did. Enjoy. (In our next episode, Chisomo will reflect on the craziness.)
Huge thanks to our Patrons!
Cassandra Filios
Kaydee Tower
Sasha K
Justnigel
Ann Sofie van Enis
Katja Alexandria
July Belber
Rebecca BurWei
Dee Mathews
Brooks Prumo
Jessie Brooks2023-11-021h 27Integrated Rhythm41: Not UncomplicatedChisomo talks through some of the feelings of being hired as a Black woman instructor in the modern swing scene. Bobby talks about a time he recently switched the names of two of his close Black friends, in person, in a group of dancers.
Huge thanks to our Patrons!
Sasha K
Justnigel
Ann Sofie van Enis
Katja Alexandria
July Belber
Rebecca BurWei
Dee Mathews
Brooks Prumo
Jessie Brooks
Aryn Kelly
A...2023-09-0427 min
Integrated Rhythm40: Say "Yes" To What We Have (w/ URSULA HICKS)In this episode, we talk to dance instructor and ILHC MC URSULA HICKS about Lindy Hop clothing, honky-tonking, contact improvisation, and what she would add to the world of Lindy Hop teaching.
Thanks to our Patreon Patrons!
Patrons--
Sasha K
Justnigel
Ann Sofie van Enis
Katja Alexandria
July Belber
Rebecca BurWei
Dee Mathews
Brooks Prumo
Jessie Brooks
Aryn Kelly
Audrey Bui
Ian Dawson
Karen Compos
McCormack
2023-07-191h 27Integrated Rhythm39: I LOVE Fabric (w/DONNA M'SHANGA and LAURA WINDLEY)
Singer, fashionista, and co-leader of the Mint Julep Jazz Band LAURA WINDLEY loves to make her own clothing. One day she got some African fabric from a friend. As a White American woman, what should she do with it?
We call in an expert, DONNA M'SHANGA, co-founder of Zambia's renown ready-to-wear fashion house, Kamanga Wear. Enjoy the convo, video will be up on You Tube as well.
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Integrated Rhythm38: Walking Past the Norma Table (w TARYN NEWBORNE)TARYN NEWBORNE , who started off in ballroom dance before finding swing and Lindy Hop, has combined her passions to become an amazing swing singer and band leader. She joined us to talk about her story, what a swing scene family is, and hopes for how we can emerge from the pandemic.
Making a great record takes a lot of time, and, sadly, money. You can help make a Taryn Newborne album a reality! Consider a donation to...
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Zelle: tar...2023-02-0757 minIntegrated Rhythm37: Put On Your Big Person Pants (w/ STEFFANIE AK SCHILLING)We're back, with STEFFANIE AK SCHILLING! Fun times discussing Juneteenth, European racism, colorism, the Balboa scene, and more!
If you are able, please consider donating to our patreon!
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And huge thanks to our Patreon patrons: Jessica Brooks, Aryn Kelly, Audrey Bui, Ian Dawson, Amy Sorenson, Nika Jin, Angel Jenio, Taylor Stender, Ryan Lemar, Rebecca Harris, Lori Taniguchi, Christian Frommelt, Allison Frey, Gary Chyi, Laura Windley, Lynn Maslen. As well as special thanks to Lawrence Kalantari a...2022-10-271h 03Integrated Rhythm36: You & M-ebonicsChisomo & Bobby discuss the "You're Wrong About" podcast's fantastic "Ebonics Controversy" episode. We discuss what makes a language a language, code switching, and authenticity.
If you are able, please consider donating to our patreon!
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And huge thanks to our Patreon patrons: Jessica Brooks, Aryn Kelly, Audrey Bui, Ian Dawson, Amy Sorenson, Nika Jin, Angel Jenio, Taylor Stender, Ryan Lemar, Rebecca Harris, Lori Taniguchi, Christian Frommelt, Allison Frey, Gary Chyi, Laura Windley, Lynn Maslen. As well as special thanks t...2022-07-2135 min
Integrated Rhythm35: On the Edge of Your Seat (Norma Miller Stand-up Block Party! PART 2!)In PART 2 of our Season 2 debut, Michelle Stokes, Laurel Ryan, Andrea Gordon, and Julia Loving join Chisomo & Bobby to listen to Norma Miller's 1970s stand up album and discuss it and what makes humor of its time. Btw, ALL THE CONTENT WARNINGS.
If you are able, please consider donating to our patreon!
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And huge thanks to our Patreon patrons: Jessica Brooks, Aryn Kelly, Audrey Bui, Ian Dawson, Amy Sorenson, Nika Jin, Angel Jenio, Taylor Stender, Ryan Lemar, Rebecca Harris, Lori Taniguchi, Christian Frommelt, Allison Frey, Gary Chyi, Laura Win...2022-07-011h 01
Integrated Rhythm34: Healthy, Sexless & Single (Norma Miller's Stand Up Block Party)In our Season 2 debut, Michelle Stokes, Laurel Ryan, Andrea Gordon, and Julia Loving join Chisomo & Bobby to listen to Norma Miller's 1970s stand up album and discuss it and what makes humor of its time. Btw, ALL THE CONTENT WARNINGS.
If you are able, please consider donating to our patreon!
https://www.patreon.com/integratedrhythm
And huge thanks to our Patreon patrons: Jessica Brooks, Aryn Kelly, Audrey Bui, Ian Dawson, Amy Sorenson, Nika Jin, Angel Jenio, Taylor Stender, Ryan Lemar, Rebecca Harris, Lori Taniguchi, Christian Frommelt, Allison Frey, Gary Chyi, Laura Windley, Lynn Masl...2022-06-0954 min
Integrated RhythmQUICKIE: Honoring MichelleAs many of you know our beloved Michelle Stokes unexpectedly passed away in early February. This is just a brief episode about that regarding our Integrated Rhythm family, our season 2 start date, and how we all might honor Michelle in the IR spirit. It includes a clip of Michelle from a conversation following a recent episode recording.
Also, if you haven't already, please listen to Michelle's two-part interview: Season 1, episodes 13 and 14.
We love you Michelle. 2022-02-2507 min
Integrated RhythmSeason 2! Coming in 2022We're back in January with a new season of Integrated Rhythm! We explain how that'll go, and what kept us away for the last few months.
UPDATE: Due to some new software we're still getting the hang of, trying to make a living wage, and the passing of a close friend to IR, we are currently on hold with releasing season 2. We have already recorded seven episodes, so there's definitely more coming!!! 2021-12-2303 min
Integrated RhythmCHECK IT OUT: Summer of SoulWhile we handle some life situations and prepare the next few episodes, check out Questlove's new documentary, "SUMMER OF SOUL"! And thank you all for your support!2021-07-2902 minIntegrated Rhythm33: Holding OnHolding on.
That seems to be a theme as we discuss Black American English, Southerners traveling North, and, of course, jazz dance.
0:00 Black American English: It's a language!
11:30 Bobby experiences a TINY bit of language discrimination, compared to how much Black Americans experience.
16:30 Discrimination of language is discrimination of people
20:00 Chisomo's speaking as an unintended role model for Black students
24:00 Code switching, both conscious and subconscious
33:00 The Great Migration and soul food
40:00 Cleveland vs Australia
41:00 Gullah culture and Jazz...2021-07-1551 minIntegrated Rhythm32: Hope-timisticHope-timistic.
It's how we're feeling after the recent "Move Together: Build Back Better" event recently conducted (we said "build back together" in the podcast, our bad!), which even had some truth charcuterie from Chisomo (say that three times fast).
0:00 Some love
7:00 The everyday lens
13:00 Looking towards the future
15:00 Leaks in the fuel tank
19:00 Communication, Improvisation, Rhythm, Play, Competition --- and the importance of cultural immersion
29:00 Coloniality and control
39:00 Form your swarm
43:00 For promotors
41:00 Vaccine-only events
42:00 Chisomo''s Powerpoint presentatio...2021-07-0856 min
Integrated Rhythm31: Turning to History (w/ NICHOLAS CENTINO)Turning to History
This is how NICHOLAS "NIKO" CENTINO, Assistant Professor of Chicana/o Studies at California State University, answered the complex questions brought up in an American background steeped in different cultures. In this conversation we discuss his own experiences as a Person of Color, as well as zoot suits, the Neo Swing era, and his new book, "Razabilly."
0:00 Razabilly
6:30 Wherever there's oppression, there's resistance
13:30 The Niko origin story
26:00 A Brief Deconstruction of "Zoot Suit Riot"
36:30 On Zoot Suits and how badass they are
43:30...2021-07-0159 minIntegrated Rhythm30: Great Soundbites on DemandThanks for bearing with us as some life situations take place! We believe we can do a few more episodes before we have to take another short break. Enjoy this Char-Char & Bobby episode where we discuss a White swing dancer getting interviewed for a New York Times story about a Black swing dancer.
0:00 Btw, Bobby was a journalist
6:15 Bobby is called by the NYT
11:00 Why do they only do two performances for a show they pay thousands for?!?
15:00 Art and access
17:00 Performance in the Lindy Hop...2021-06-251h 08Integrated Rhythm29: A Gaze into "A Day at the Races"**Please note: an important life situation has come up that will most likely keep us from being able to do an episode or two in the near future. Please bare with us and enjoy a previous episode for your weekly fix of IR!**
This week, a reading of the article, "A Gaze into a Day at the Races" that dives into the background and context of the famous Whitey's Lindy Hoppers dance clip.
0:00 Whitey's Teirs
9:00 About the Clip
13:00 The Circle
17:30 "Right" and "Wrong"
21:30 A D...2021-06-0442 min
Integrated Rhythm28: In Focus Finally (w/ CYNTHIA MILLMAN)"In Focus Finally."
When author and librarian Cynthia Millman first saw Lindy Hop legend Frankie Manning dance in the 1980s, a lot of things about the dance finally came into focus. Little did she know she would end up going on the epic journey of co-writing Frankie’s memoir with him.
To celebrate World Lindy Hop Day and Frankie Manning's birthday, we at Integrated Rrhythm Podcast had a great conversation with the author where we discuss the world of 1980s New York Lindy Hop, training under Frankie in the Big Apple Lindy Hoppers, the writing and...2021-05-271h 31
Integrated Rhythm27: Frieda, Lucille, Willa Mae, & AnneBobby tells the story of four incredible dancers who were Frankie Manning's partners, and Chisomo and IR fam LAUREL RYAN join in and listen along.
0:00 Frieda Washington & Creative Adventurousness
19:00 Lucille Middleton & Tall Coolness
28:30 Willa Mae Ricker & Fashionable Groundedness
49:30 Ann(e)? Johnson & Powerful Smallness
SOURCES: "Frankie Manning: Ambassador of Lindy Hop" by Frankie Manning & Cynthia Millman, "Swinging at the Savoy: The Memoir of a Jazz Dancer" by Norma Miller and Evette Jensen, SavoyStyle biographies by Judy Pritchett, and 1930s and 40s Censuses and Death records. "Frankie And His Par...2021-05-2059 minIntegrated Rhythm26: Three Little GirlsAnother Chisomo & Bobby episode! This week, the parable of the Three Little Black Girls. What would you do? Let us know at Intrhythm@gmail.com
0:00 Three Little Black Girls come up to us in the park…
6:00 "Too woke, Chisomo"
9:30 No one will see our dance if it's not out in the world…
20:00 Crucibles of talent
29:00 Independence vs interdependence2021-05-1337 min
Bei mir bist Du schön-PodcastBMBDS-Podcast 045 - Frankie Manning Special I - Think like FrankieMai ist Frankie Monat! In dieser Episode sprechen wir über Frankie’s Leben und Du hörst einige Zitate, über die wir dann im Anschluss kurz sprechen. Wir wünschen einen schönen „Frankie Month“.
Höre diese Episode und hinterlasse uns gerne deine Meinung, Erfahrungen und Geschichten in den Kommentaren. Wir freuen uns über deine Nachricht.
Finde deine Lieblingsplattform, höre, abonniere, like, teile
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Castbox...2021-05-091h 02Integrated Rhythm25: The Woman in the Door FrameIt's a Chisomo & Bobby episode, where they have a friend's talk that asks some questions about how Black culture relates to the dance and teaching, tells one of Bobby's most memorable Frankie Manning stories, and reveals which one of us is "the woman in the doorframe."
0:00 Mentorship & teaching
5:00 LaTasha Barnes: Balboa dancer?
7:30 The Nuances of Cultural Embodiment
11:00 You don't get to erase my lived history
13:00 The woman with her foot in the door
17:00 Of rooms and vantage points
20:00 Bobby goes to a d...2021-05-0650 min
Integrated Rhythm24: A Communal Circle (w/ JULIA LOVING)A Communal Circle.
In this episode, (part 2 of 2) JULIA LOVING discusses her intimate history with Black New York art forms, the dances she runs in Harlem, and a controversial opinion that will make some people in Queens wanna fight. Also, Chisomo, Bobby tackle an important question from Julia.
0:00 Julia's Question
4:00 Laws, acts, amendments, mindset, What are white people doing to change that opinion?
8:00 The knitty-gritty takes place on the local scene
11:00 About Julia's dances in Harlem
13:30 I learned in Harlem
18:30 Chisomo's hope with Integrated Rhythm…...2021-04-2942 min
Integrated Rhythm23: Black Joy, a Form of Resistance (w/JULIA LOVING)In this episode (Part 1 of 2), we're with dancer, historian, educator, promoter, instigator, designer, and business owner JULIA LOVING. We share Norma Miller stories, the historical Civil Rights legacy of Julia's family, and how both have shaped the design of Julia's incredible swing dance events.
0:00 Miss Norma enters the room…
6:00 Norma's memories
8:35 Empowerment and tough love
11:00 Norma asks you to come over and talk to her
14:30 The stories we don't remember
19:00 Continuums of Lindy
23:30 It's multi-dimensional and all tied together
28:30 The legacy of the Lo...2021-04-2252 min
Integrated Rhythm22: A Room with a Door (w/ LAUREL RYAN)A room with a door...
Not just a great thing to have in a instructor contract, it's also a great thing to have in the swing dance scene as a whole.
In part 2 of 2, instructor, MC, and Lindy Focus meeting co-host LAUREL RYAN shares with us how the standards of Black Excellence give a warped door for Black instructors to enter the Instructor room, how the swing scene is designed like FaceBook, and how the women's bathroom is the secret to good allyship.
0:00 The standard of Black excellence
5:30 Every...2021-04-151h 07
Integrated Rhythm21: A Sprinkle of White Supremacy (w/ LAUREL RYAN)A Sprinkle of White Supremacy...
In part 1 of 2, instructor, MC, and Lindy Focus meeting co-host LAUREL RYAN shares with us the fascinating tales of learning Lindy Hop, confronting its harmful teaching practices, and how Black people are constantly battling between being undervalued and tokenized.
**Music in this episode by Barron Ryan! Go to barronryan.com and firstofitskind.net to learn more and get his incredible, new rights free album!**
0:00 Laurel grew up surrounded by exceptional people
7:00 How Laurel got into Lindy Hop (in Tulsa, Oklahoma)
17:00 The "path" to international tea...2021-04-0854 min
Integrated Rhythm20: Pretend I'm Not Bouncing (w/ BRANDON BARKER)Pretend I'm Not Bouncing.
Dancer BRANDON BARKER has his dance passion in three worlds --- the academy of a university where he is currently finishing up a BFA in concert dance, the legendary company of Black American dance Alvin Ailey where he has worked and trained, and the swing scene where he is a Lindy Hopper and Jazz dancer, performer, and teacher. See how those worlds criss-cross and collide in today's episode.
0:00 Brandon breaks down his dancing life for the discussion
6:00 Working with Clyde Wilder
8:00 What's it like being a student in...2021-04-011h 03Integrated Rhythm19: The Junk DrawerIt's a Chisomo & Bobby episode, where we discuss a few topics.
0:00 A possible guest politely declined to be on our show, and we talk about it. It's all good, but we wanted to explore some things that brings up.
12:30 The art of not talking over Follower teachers, and what that tells us about inclusion.
28:30 We discuss Odysseus Bailer's great "How to Apologize" post, recently published on his professional FB page.
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Welcome to Integrated Rhythm! Two Swing Dancing besties (Chisomo Selemani & Bobby White) navigate race and the...2021-03-2546 min
Integrated Rhythm18: Buzz Words (BLOCK PARTY #2, 2 of 2)This is part 2 of 2 of our second Block Party. We are honored to have with us, MC and instructor MICHELLE STOKES, MC and instructor LAUREL RYAN --- both of which do the amazing music for our podcast, by the way --- we also have incredible swing dance researcher and history lover LEWIS ORCHARD, and 1972 Harvest Moon Ball champion and Mama Lou Parks Dancer CRYSTAL JOHNSON.
Buzz Words
1:00 Question #2: "When we come back together, it's not important that the swing scene simply be a space that is welcoming to Black people, but that it be more o...2021-03-181h 02
Integrated Rhythm17: Chocolate & Peanut Butter (BLOCK PARTY #2, Part 1)Chocolate & Peanut Butter --- how do you feel about the combination? The discussion at Integrated Rhythm gets serious. In this BLOCK PARTY episode (Part 1 of 2), we discuss Duke Ellington, peanut butter & chocolate, tea & coffee, and high fantasy. Guests include MICHELLE STOKES, LAUREL RYAN, LEWIS ORCHARD, and CRYSTAL JOHNSON.
2:00 -- Crystal meets Duke Ellington
7:30 -- Michelle wears a shirt with tassels
10:30 -- How Michelle & Laurel live in Oklahoma
11:00 -- Crystal discusses the term "poor"
20:00 -- Michelle asks "How do you get a voice?"
29:30 -- Question: "What's an unpopular opinio...2021-03-1154 min
Integrated Rhythm16: My Exodus for Me to Begin (w/ CRYSTAL JOHNSON)My Exodus for Me to Begin.
In Part II of a two-part conversation with Harvest Moon Ball champion and Mama Lou Parks dancer CRYSTAL JOHNSON, we cover her father, Whitey's Lindy Hopper Thomas "Tops" Lee, her coming back into the swing dance world, and her thoughts on how racism has changed since she was younger.
1:30 Thomas Lee, Mr. Showbiz
6:00 Maya Angelou and swing dancing
10:0 you have to feel the music
13:30 Mama Lou Parks before a show
14:30 Crystal's sign
20:30 Don't let anyone stop...2021-03-0456 min
Integrated Rhythm15: Don't Be Stingy With It. (w/CRYSTAL JOHNSON)Don't be stingy with it.
We're talking about gifts, and the gift of dance that was given to our guest this week, the legendary CRYSTAL JOHNSON --- Harvest Moon Ball champion, Mama Lou Parks dancer, and the daughter of Whitey's Lindy Hopper Thomas "Tops" Lee, Jr.
In part 1 of this 2-part conversation, we discuss her early dancing life, her Harvest Moon Ball experience, and working with Mama Lou Parks and her peers. In part 2, we cover her father, Whitey's Lindy Hopper Thomas "Tops" Lee, her coming back into the swing dance world, and her thoughts on...2021-02-2552 min
Integrated Rhythm14: Luxury Char-cute-erie (w/ MICHELLE STOKES)In part 2 of our interview with emcee, jazz dance instructor, and Lindy Focus Meeting co-host, MICHELLE STOKES, we discuss nicknames, Michelle's philosophy of emceeing and teaching, the problems of Black-based imposture syndrome, and Michelle's ideal scene.
1:00 "Stoked to be here," White people and puns, nicknames in general
7:50 Michelle accidentally fell into Emceeing
10:30 Have fun with your audience
11:45 The importance of making people feel welcome in emceeing and teaching
20:00 Imposture syndrome: Did they hire me because I'm Black or because I'm good?
24:00 Lindy Focus meetings and how they approa...2021-02-1839 min
Integrated Rhythm13: To Be Black and Snatched (w/ MICHELLE STOKES)To Be Black and Snatched.
Hair --- it's not only a cultural part of Black living, it's also a practical one. You might be surprised all the ways it plays a role in a Black person existing in a mostly Non-Black America, and specifically in a Non-Black swing dancing space. It's only one of the topics we discuss in today's action-packed episode.
In part I of this 2-part conversation, we talk to the renown event emcee, jazz dance instructor, and Lindy Focus meeting co-host MICHELLE STOKES about hair, how she first came into the dance, t...2021-02-111h 02
Integrated Rhythm12: The Rise of the Big AppleIn the late 1930s, a truly Black American dance experience took over America.
This episode is a reading of this week's Swungover article on the rise of the "The Big Apple" dance craze, the problematic news articles affiliated with it, and how Whitey's Lindy Hoppers adopted the dance in Harlem. You can read the article and see the Whitey's Big Apple footage over at www.swungover.com or on the YouTube version of this podcast.
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Welcome to Integrated Rhythm! Two Swing Dancing besties (Chisomo Selemani & Bobby White) navigate race an...2021-02-0425 minIntegrated Rhythm11: IndeegnanceIndeegnance. A word that beautifully captures all that we talk about in today's episode, including genetic-based racism vs assimilationist racism, language and perception, code switching, Beyonce's "Black is King," the burden of representation, and action verses emotion.
1:00 Bobby's sloppy set up: Genetic-based Racism vs Assimilationist Racism
4:30 Both kinds are present in the Swing dance scene
6:30 The wrong end of many conversations
11:00 Language and perception -- the code switch flip
14:00 A Zambian-American in Zambia
20:30 How it relates to Beyonce's Black is King: Artistic privileges vs artistic responsibility
2021-01-2846 min
Integrated Rhythm10: "Mmmm, That Ain't It, Baby." (w/ KENNETH SHIPP)In this episode, Blues Dances instructor, DJ, and proud nerd KENNETH SHIPP discusses getting thrown into the middle of learning Line Dances, the dance lessons gotten from church, working first hand with Blues dancing pioneers, and how each has shaped the way he teaches dance and helps people chill the f&$% out.
(1:00) Kenneth on learning growing up, (7:00) My first experience at a white church… (12:30) Church and improvisation, (13:30) Broadening horizons via movie theaters, (16:00) The Ujima Blues foundation, (20:00) Clarksdale, Mississippi, (24:30) Moves and names, (33:00) The dancing presence of old timers, (36:00) the art of chilling the F out, (40:00) Juke Joint dancing in...2021-01-2157 min
Integrated Rhythm09: A Little Stalker-y (w/ LEWIS ORCHARD & SHANI BROWN)In this episode, Bobby & Chisomo talk with swing historians and history lovers LEWIS ORCHARD (a White British man) and SHANI BROWN (a Black American woman) about not being Black and researching Black people in history. Specifically, they will tell the story of researching the great Whitey's Lindy Hopper John Wesley "Tiny" Bunch, and discuss the process.
(1:30) It all began when…, (3:00) A really interesting sentence to read, (4:30) Lewis takes on the investigation, (8:00) Using draft cards, yearbooks, family records, and the American census, to find out John Bunch's story…, (18:30) How the way you say "Wilkes barre" might have something to do...2021-01-141h 01
Integrated RhythmSHORTY: The Life of "Tiny" BunchSHORTY: Short bonus episodes.
This "Shorty" is a reading of the Swungover Article "The Life of "Tiny" Bunch," about famous Whitey's Lindy Hopper John "Tiny" Bunch. This is a companion piece to podcast Episode 09: "A little Stalker-y" where we discuss the act of researching People of Color.
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Integrated Rhythm08: Genes Are Weird, Am I Right? (w/ SHANI BROWN)This week we talk with international instructor of Balboa and Lindy, Shani Brown , about learning from the original SoCal swing dancers, the reality of their culture and lives, and the invisibility and visibility of herself as a Black woman in the scene.
We also briefly reflect on and respond to the events that happened at the Capital on Nov 6, 2021. (The day before this podcast was released.) Chisomo mentions a Black woman who stormed the Capital in 2013 and was killed. Her name was Miriam Carey, check out her story.
(0:00) Integrated Rhythm's response and reflection on the st...2021-01-0756 min
Integrated RhythmCHECK IT OUT: Buzz Interview w/ Adolfo 'Shabba Doo' Quiñone (YouTube Vid)CHECK IT OUT! Short tidbits where we point listeners to awesome things.
In this episode, we briefly tell you why you should watch The Buzz's interview with Soul Train dancer & Breakin' star Adolfo 'Shabba Doo' Quiñone, who recently passed away ahead of his time.
Here's the link to the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZFjQSmveA8& 2021-01-0604 minIntegrated Rhythm07: A Complimentary EpisodeIn this episode, Chisomo & Bobby discuss White people complimenting Black people, and many of the layers involved.
(0:00) The setup. (4:00) compliments & microaggressions. (8:30) talking with the other person? It gets tricky. (10:30) looking at the context. (19:00) Black women's hair. (22:00) The exaggeration of Black people as a tool of oppression. (23:30) Black People and being suspicious of compliments. (28:30) It's just not a Black/White binary. (32:00) Game: Yay or Nay! Chisomo gets compliments and judges them. (35:30) Relationships and context.
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Welcome to Integrated Rhythm! Two Swing Dancing besties (Chisomo Selemani & Bobby White) navigate race and the...2020-12-3137 min
Integrated Rhythm06: Knocked Down? ...I DO Get Up Again. (Holiday Party, Part 2 of 2)(Part 2 of 2!)
This is a special holiday episode with the Integrated Rhythm family and all of our guests so far --- LATASHA BARNES, JOEY OTENG, LAUREL RYAN, MICHELLE STOKES, and STEFFANIE AK SCHILLING!
CONTENTS:
(0:00) Question #3: What's a time when you've seen two cultures overlap unexpectedly?
(1:07) Product of an interracial AND international couple
(8:00) Immigrant kids tend to find each other
(12:30) Empire & Art
(16:00) Culture can be invisible
(18:00) How we present these dances
(25:30) The Classic Rock bubble meets Blues and Soul2020-12-221h 18
Integrated Rhythm05: You RESPECT The Muppets (Holiday Party, Part 1 of 2)Special 2020 Holiday Party Episode! Perfect for being cooped up in your house in a Holiday quarantine! (Part 1 of 2) with LATASHA BARNES, JOEY OTENG, LAUREL RYAN, MICHELLE STOKES, and STEFFANIE AK SCHILLING! (Also check out the visual of the party on YouTube!)
And if you're a cheesy holiday movie fan, Joey's Hallmark lovefest is a must-listen (at 37:00)
CONTENTS (Approximates, may vary with commercials)
(0:00) Slave talk, or more fun racial things?
(4:00) Introductions
(9:40) "Black Solstice" super powers
(11:30) Question #1: In friendship relationships, what are you easy going about, w...2020-12-221h 12
Integrated Rhythm04: Season 27 of My Life (w/JOEY OTENG)This week we talk with Social Justice Educator JOEY OTENG about 2020, academia, immigrant parents, and advice for the scene and the world in general. We also predict 93% of our listeners would happily go on a long walk on the beach with Joey by the end of the episode.
(2:00) Joey's infographics, (7:00) The moving sidewalk of Anti-racism, (10:00) About Joey and the TV show that is 2020, (16:30) Immigrant parents and math, (21:00) Academia and teaching Black American Artforms, (26:00) Shame and learning, (29:00) Chisomo embarasses her mom and skin-toned situations, (33:00) Advice for welcoming people, (39:00) On step 2 (letting go of control) and power hoarding, (41:00) On...2020-12-1757 min
Integrated RhythmCHECK IT OUT: "Unbothered" by Namwali Serpell (Article)CHECK IT OUT! Short tidbits where we point listeners to awesome things.
In this episode, we briefly tell you why you should read "Unbothered," an article by Namwali Serpell for The Yale Review, and some questions to ask yourself after you're done.2020-12-1506 min
Integrated Rhythm03: Zen AF (w/ STEFFANIE AK SCHILLING)In this episode of Integrated Rhythm, we speak with Swing Dancer, instructor, performer, social justice panelist, MC, and Cyber Security Expert STEFFANIE AK SCHILLING. After quite possibly the greatest intro we will ever create, we discuss…
(4:00) Being 80 years old, (6:20) ADHD… (7:30) and medication …(11:30) ADHD in following and leading … (13:00) defining ADHD…(18:00) being a woman with ADHD…(24:00) dancing and choreography with ADHD, (41:00) …Finding care for ADHD, (42:00) Dealing with dancing during The Pandemic, (47:00) Science!, (48:00) Bobby & dancing during the Pandemic, (57:00) advice and counter-advice, (1:00:00) Cool. Cool cool cool.
To contact Steffanie for bookings, please email her at Steffanie.schilling@gmail.com.
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Integrated Rhythm02: Can a Sister Get a Triple Step? (w/ LATASHA BARNES)In this episode, we talk with Champion House and Jazz dancer, and mastered Ethnochoreologist, LaTasha Barnes.
(0:02) on the phrase "Urban dance," (0:05) on the phrase "Jazz dance," (8:30) on theatrical "jazz" dance vs original jazz dance, (0:11) on the upcoming "Swing Out" production, (0:18) the modern scene connecting more with live music and musicians, (0:27) ADHD and Bobby meeting LaTasha, (0:32) LaTasha's pre-Swing dancing life, (0:43) Competitiveness, (0:52) Hip Hop audience verses Swing scene audience2020-12-031h 04Integrated Rhythm01: Swanky Khakis (Laying the Groundwork)Welcome! Our goal is comfortable conversations about uncomfortable things. In this episode...
Introductions, laying the groundwork (0:07), imperfect journey, calling in vs calling out, (0:10) elevating counter-narratives, (0:12) virtue signaling and performative allyship, (0:17) Black Woman issues, (0:22) electronic racism and healthcare racism, (0:28) power of a very dominant majority, (0:33) politics in dance, (0:39) COVID and civil rights.2020-12-0345 min