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Tailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastWhat Makes a Good Leader?Send us a textLeadership in the fire service can look like a lot of different things. Different styles, tactics, and success rates. Servant Leadership has become popular for a reason and the fireservice has the chance to implement it every day.Angie and Chris tell some stories of leadership and what traits make effective leaders, besides the company line of integrity and honesty.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code TAILBOARD for 15% offFourth Frontier.co...
2025-02-1329 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastWhat Doesn't Cause Cancer These Days?Send us a textIn a world where each new week brings a new risk, what is a firefighter to do? Well, do the things we know how to, control the controllables. Modify the modifiable. Risk is part of the job but so is protecting yourself.Angie and Chris review some of the staples of the fire service and how they positively and negatively impact our health. Alcohol, smoke exposure, IDLH stuff, diesel exhaust, and just plain old existence in the fire service.Check out the exam and testing resources mentioned at the end...
2025-01-1529 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastIntroducing, Beyond The Headlines with Chris and AngieSend us a textSay hi to the new hosts of Firefighter Nation's latest show, Beyond The Headlines. Angie and I will be talking to authors and contributors to the Firefighter Nation homepage and getting the story behind the article.In this episode fellow firefighter Angie introduces herself and we start the conversation talking about an article but quickly spin off on tangents including hustle culture, saunas, and what firefighter fitness and workouts looked like in the olden days.Look for episodes to start on firefighter nation in January 2025. Weekly episodes will continue he...
2024-12-1226 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastYou Stayin' Out of Trouble?Send us a textWell, trying to. But sometimes we just can't help ourselves. Fear not, Curt and I are here to help...probably.I asked for some listener stories, conflicts, and tales and we got them. Curt and I go over a situation that a firefighter had with his Lieutenant after a mistake was made.Before that we're giving some opinions on episode 2 of True Detective and answering the most important question to date; is Avenged Sevenfold old enough to be cool yet?Thank you for listening and send your sto...
2024-01-2527 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastBig, Weak, and Undisciplined w/ Chris and CurtSend us a textCurt and I know a lot about a lot, but steroids are not on the list of deeply researched or understood topics. But that doesn't stop us from trying! Get past the first couple of minutes so we can really dazzle you with some answers to listener questions.How can I stay big and broad and still work to improve my cardio and mobility? Well, depending on what you think is "big and broad" you may not be able to get to that 4 hour marathon. But, with a lot of smart work...
2023-06-0836 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastHalloween Spooktacular With CurtSend us a textIn this episode, we're celebrating Halloween with a very serious conversation about candy, sick time use, an update on the Uncomfortable Conversations episode, the firefighter cycle of misery, and a visit from my dogs from beyond the grave. Spooky stuff.Curt joins me in the newly renovated garage gym/recording studio and we cover a lot of ground in 40 mins.For the record, we completed this episode before going out for trick or treating. I have several more candy additions to the no-fly list and some forgotten favorites to a...
2022-11-0239 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastRising Above My PTSD, Matt Spaid First Appearance ReissueSend us a textIn this episode, we are returning to Matt's first appearance on the show. At this time I had reached out through social media and asked for someone who had used exercise as part of their treatment for PTSD.I got nearly two hours, two episodes, a new family of friends, and one incredible story.Matt's story of developing PTSD from being a combat Marine as well as several incidents as a firefighter is one that is highly personal to him, but can feel very familiar to the rest of u...
2022-10-2657 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastMatt Spaid is back and he's taking overSend us a textIn this episode, one of the original guests on the podcast is back. Matt Spaid was an early guest of the show and told his story of developing, enduring, treating, and living with PTSD in two of the most popular and incredible episodes in the show's history.He is back and taking over. Annette Zapp and I have turned over the reigns of Devote December to Matt and he graciously and enthusiastically accepted them. He is motivated, has a plan, and Devote December is something we could all use this year.
2022-10-1945 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastWe're Trying Our Best. Conversations With Katie.Send us a textIn this episode, I'm sitting down with my wife, Katie. She is a mother of two maniacs and big fan of the show. Well, mostly Kat Pope.But we're covering some ground in this one. We talk about compassion fatigue, babysitting, several of my other failed jobs as a teenager, PTSD, and how she has found that cutting me completely out of her life is the best way to make it operate smoothly.I'd like to say that's an exaggeration but I guess you'll have to listen to the epi...
2022-10-1232 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastCombating Bad Fitness Advice For FirefightersSend us a textIn this episode, Curt and I sit down at his house to talk about some bad advice firefighters have gotten, while his dog throws sledgehammers in the background.From lousy advice on stretching, icing injuries, workout frequency and structure, The Rock, Keto, and much more. We covered some ground in this one and hope at least some of it strikes a chord with you.If you like what you hear, please like and subscribe on iTunes or wherever you're listening. If you REALLY like it, please go to the Bu...
2022-10-0537 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastPromotional Testing Season w/ Patrick RasmussenSend us a textThis episode looks at how Patrick and I prepared for the promotional process. Before that, we talked about his chickens, my brother's dinosaur, and some winter accommodations that would be required.Patrick and I were study buddies and some of the top scorers on the assessment center and written exam for the list we were promoted from.If you're thinking of testing, have a listen and see how we approached it. If you've tested and know the process, have fun commiserating with us.Patrick also owns a si...
2022-09-2838 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastJoe Galli is making a difference for Illinois FirefightersSend us a textJoe Galli is a 20 year veteran of the fire service with 16 of those years on the executive board and is rounding out his 6th year as Local 439 President. Joe is making some serious moves in Illinois with the AFFI. He has recently proposed, developed, and is acting as the chairperson for the AFFI Resiliency Committee. Joe brings an absolute wealth of knowledge on the labor front as well as several lifetimes of lived experience as a Marine, firefighter, husband, father, and friend. Joe will absolutely be a returning guest as we...
2022-09-2137 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastMolly Jones is here for firefightersSend us a textMolly Jones is a licensed social worker and behavioral health professional who works for Advanced Recovery Systems. ARS is the partner company with the IAFF Center of Excellence. So, long story short, Molly knows what firefighters are all about, and how to help.She is presenting, Behavioral Health Awareness for Spouses and Relationship Reiliencey, at my department soon and I wanted to get her on to give some background on herself and what she teaches.Please put her on your short list of people that can significantly and positively im...
2022-09-1450 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastTailboard Talks Firefighter Podcast PremiereSend us a textIn this episode, I'm laying the tracks for the show's new format. What started as a fitness-focused podcast (fitcast) has grown into a firefighter lifestyle forum.Of course, the roots of the show will always be fitness and wellness. But our profession isn't limited to that topic, so why should the conversations be?Join me for this personal episode and get excited for some upcoming ones. Tips for promotional candidates, sitting down with our union boss who is doing BIG things on the state level, chatting with mental health pra...
2022-09-0720 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastDr. Creatine AKA Dr Scott ForbesSend us a textThis week, we're taking the camper out. So it felt like a fantastic time to bring back on of the best, and most listened to, episodes.Scott Forbes is affectionately known as Dr Creatine and when you listen to the episode, you'll know why.Creatine and firefighters go together like peanut butter and jelly. Find out why and how you can start taking it in the episode.Thank you for listening and please share it with someone you think it may help.Su...
2022-08-3139 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastListener Questions w/ CurtSend us a textCurt and I are sitting on the deck, drinking coffee, and running through your topics. We're talking about strength vs cardio, search and rescue K9's, playing dictator with policies, training rookies, and more.And I finally give Curt a gift that I've been saving for a month now, and it's gross, and he loves it.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code TAILBOARD for 15% offFourth Frontier.com U...
2022-08-2442 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastHave you been influenced?Send us a textWhat started out as a conversation about fitness influencers, turned into a discussion on grout scrubbers and coffee chillers.Katie's here, and we're talking.Head to 4thshiftfitness.com and hit the Buy Me A Coffee button and show some love.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code TAILBOARD for 15% offFourth Frontier.com Use code FFTailboard for 25% discount on the X2 strapAthletic Brewing- Code TTFP10
2022-08-1736 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastAustin Womack has heard your dad jokes.Send us a textAustin Womack is an Excercise Physiologist from the Austin Fire Department.He is also a former athlete, wildland firefighter, and full of stories.What he and his team are able to do in Austin is something to be envious of, and to keep a lookout for an open position.Check it out and let us know what you think.As always, go to the 4thShiftFitness.com website and support the show by donating some coffee money.Support the showAffiliate links:
2022-08-101h 03Tailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastListener Questions Lightening Round w/ CurtSend us a textWe're hitting four questions that came from you!1. When and how do you use stretching during a workout?2. What are the worst firefighter nutrition fads that we've seen?3. How do you appeal or convince firefighters to be healthy?4. BONUS- reaction to a comment that was sent to me after the Sunk Cost Fallacy episode. Strong opinions ahead.Check it out and let us know what you think. If you like it, head to 4thShiftFitness.com and send some coffee money!Support t...
2022-08-0336 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastKat Pope, @Forensics_Found, is the last responder you need to know.Send us a textKatharine Pope (Kat) is a last responder.Kat’s experience includes working as a Crime Scene Specialist for the police, a WWII casualty analyst for the Department of Defense, and a Forensic Anthropologist and Death Investigator at DMORT and multiple mid-Atlantic medical examiners’ offices. She now works for a federal agency on the missing and unidentified persons crisis and has volunteered with Operation Identification. She has been happily alcohol free since February 2021!Kat lives with her husband and two kids in Maryland. She is the daughter of a firefighter/para...
2022-07-2748 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastAn unadvertised pillar of the fire service: The Sunk Cost Fallacy.Send us a textHave you ever started a show and halfway through you know that it's not for you and you have no interest in it, but you've already watched half so you can't just turn it off and might as well finish it?Well, that is the living example of the Sunk Cost Fallacy.It is one of the fire service's unadvertised pillars, and today we're talking about it.Also, it's time for a new SD card. You might notice some chunks of the audio are missing. Trust me, I...
2022-07-2025 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastI was a jerk on a camping trip, now Katie gets to talk about it.Send us a textBut we did adjust some things because of it, so that's good...right?Basically, I didn't make the transition from work to home, a very smooth one and the tension continued.Lack of sleep, inability to manage expectations, and the feeling of being totally cut off from working on some projects I was into—a recipe for a long couple of days in a 21-foot camper.Check out the episode and send it to a jerk.Go to 4thShiftFitness.com and buy Katie a coffee. She...
2022-07-1328 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastGym EtiquetteSend us a textAKA, listen to Chris and Curt bitch about stuff for 20 mins.To its credit, the community at LGN was above average in this arena. But, people will be people and fingernails will be found on the turf.Check it out and add your peeves.Go to 4thShiftFitness.com and hit the Buy Me A Coffee button to support the show.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics u...
2022-07-0624 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastCouch+Wine+KatieSend us a textWe're sitting down for a quick chat and talking about Nathan's future career path, a little history, and some upcoming topics with Katie.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code TAILBOARD for 15% offFourth Frontier.com Use code FFTailboard for 25% discount on the X2 strapAthletic Brewing- Code TTFP10Submit topics/request guests Thank you for listening and let's all keep working to be more...
2022-06-2920 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastReturning to Work After InjurySend us a textThe road back from a significant, or even minor injury can be a long and twisty one.There are a handful of hidden pitfalls that you should know about and that's what we talk about in this episode.We hit on the physical side as well as the mentality of returning after significant injury and share some lessons we've learned while training our peers.If you like what you're hearing please head to 4thShiftFitness.com and hit the Buy Me A Coffee button.
2022-06-2227 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastFitness After FatherhoodSend us a textThe IG bio for the 4th Shift Fitness page is "A realistic view of Fire and EMS fitness and wellness"Talking about how kids can derail your fitness groove is about as real as it can be.Three years in and I'm just figuring out how to let myself workout when the kids are awake and not feel guilty about it.It's complicated, but what's you take?Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code...
2022-06-1528 minTailboard Talks Firefighter Podcast2 App Floor WorkoutsSend us a textDISCLAIMER: These are general workouts and not programmed specifically for you, your needs, or your limitations. For personalized workouts, reach out and become a client.Also, these are two workouts, to be done on two seperate days.Ok, now that that is out of the way, lets go hit the floor and have a good time.The bay floor is a great place to get the crew together and lets you do things that the weightroom cannot.Check it out and let me know what y...
2022-06-0812 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastOfficers, Lead The ConversationSend us a textThe Uncomfortable Conversations episode spurred a lot of interaction and engagement. One of the resounding comments was from officers who are uneasy starting the conversation because they feel they are not in a physical condition to tell someone else that they need to be better.In this episode, Curt and I speak from our perspectives as a senior FF and officer respectively to give some tips and outline our expectations for those who have raised their hand to lead.We don't all love business inspections, but they gotta get d...
2022-06-0132 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastUncomfortable ConversationsSend us a textCurt and I went a little off the rails on this one. This is not the episode topic we thought we were sitting down to talk about.Our goal isn't to hurt feelings or offend. But let's not pretend what we're doing here.This is an uncomfortable topic, and episode. But it is exactly what someone may need to get the train moving in the right direction. What do you think?Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for...
2022-05-2524 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastFitness Footwear (Not Vans)Send us a textVans are NOT the athletic shoe of your dreams.In this episode, we run through some of our favorite footwear and how we approach the idea of specific footwear for workouts.There are a lot of ideas in this one, but toe shoes and Vans aren't coming out as the heroes.find the Buy Me A Coffee Button on 4thShiftFitness.com to donate to the show to let us know you like what is going on.Talk to you soon.Support the show
2022-05-1825 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastFD Weightroom Equipment DumpSend us a textCurt and I are tasked with approving or modifying requests for equipment in our department. In this episode we run through some of the more notable 'no's" and some that passed the sniff test.Check out our other episodes where we build workouts and go into the nuts and bolts of firefighter fitness.Find the Buy Me A Coffee Button on 4thShiftFitness.com and donate to the show to keep us caffeinated and opinoinated.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code T...
2022-05-1128 minTailboard Talks Firefighter Podcast2 Free Workouts w/ CurtSend us a textSpoiler alert, the first 10 minutes are all about how much Bad Vegan, Inventing Anna, and Dropout, annoy me.But then we build some workouts. One strength-focused one and another conditioning/hypertrophy-focused one.Obviously these are not designed specifically for you as a client so please take that as a disclaimer and warning.But absolutely take our rants in the last 10 minutes of the episode as personally as possible.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code T...
2022-05-0456 minTailboard Talks Firefighter Podcast2022 S4C Finale: FITNESSSend us a textAnother Spring 4 Change is in the books! We took a totally different approach this year by using the podcast and a follow up summary per week. While it definitely wasn't as comprehensive or overbuilt as years past, it was far more do able and sustainable for Annette and myself.Thank you for following us through the four pillars of wellness; Sleep, Nutrition, Mindfulness, and Fitness.Share these episodes with anyone who may benefit or just tuck them away for a rainy day.Check out what Annette is do...
2022-04-2741 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastMINDFULNESS, S4C 2022 with Annette ZappSend us a textWeek 4 topic 3 of 2022 Spring 4 Change is, Mindfulness.A topic that feels like Algebra class (for me. probably more like advanced physics for the rest of you.)But keeping a mindfulness practice or at least understanding the benefits can go a long way towards keeping your head on straight over the course of 25-35 years.We give a ton of personal insight and tactics in this one so feel free to take some notes and steal what works for you.To donate to the IAFF Center...
2022-04-2031 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastNUTRITION, S4C 2022 With Annette ZappSend us a textProbably best information delivered with the worst audio you'll ever hear in podcast form.Join us in week 3's episode for the nutrition pillar of Spring 4 change.Are you the Titanic, arranging the chairs on it, or a human bowling ball? How many teeth have been lost on frozen protein bars?More importantly, the money raised in April through the Buy Me A Coffee Button on the 4th Shift Fitness website is going to the IAFF Center Of Excellence. So head to 4thShiftFitness.com and look for th...
2022-04-1334 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastSLEEP, Spring 4 Change week 2Send us a text"Go the Fu@% to Sleep!" -Jules WinnfieldThis episode is all about sleep. How important it is, how it makes everything better, and also how you're not going to get a lot of it.But we do have some realistic tips for you, mostly based on years and years of deprivation.If you like the episode, go to the 4thShiftFitness.com website and donate to the Spring 4 Change campaign. You'll see a Buy Me a Coffee Button on the episodes page of the website as well as on...
2022-04-0621 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastSpring 4 Change Kick Off with Annette ZappSend us a textIt's time! April signals the start of the third running of S4C or Spring 4 Change.Annette and I run through the format for this year, since it's been different every year.This time we're doing the Tailboard Talk Episode on Wednesdays, followed by a social media blast on Friday.All money donated in April through the Buy Me a Coffee button on the 4th Shift website is going to a charity that Annette and I are going to choose.We're in for a great A...
2022-03-3025 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastHow to Build Workouts W/ CurtSend us a textKirt and I are talking about building workouts, programs, and our approach to staying injury resilient through a career.Take what you can use, and put it to work!Reach out with any questions.If you like the show, please hit the “Buy me a coffee” button on the website.Shirts, hats, and stickers available too.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code TAILBOARD for 15% offFour...
2022-03-2337 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastHow Important Is Deadliftng, Really?Send us a textI mean it looks dangerous, and I've heard that people really get hurt. And I don't want to be a bodybuilder. So how important is it really?Very.But instead of trying to convince you that it is, I'll just tell you why and you can decide if it applies to you.It does.If you like the episode and show, please head to the Latest Episode page on 4thshiftfitness.com and donate.Shirts, hats, and stickers are available also.
2022-03-1614 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastThe False Dilemma. Either/Or Thinking.Send us a textLove it or Leave it!Either/Or Thinking is a dangerous, destructive way of thinking that only separates us further.If you haven't heard of it by name before, I guarantee you've heard some of the questions I ask in the first few minutes.A little too ranty? You tell me.Be Excellent to Eachother.-Wyld StallynsSupport the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code T...
2022-03-0920 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastManaging Expectation vs RealitySend us a textI pretty much expose myself as one of the great philosophers of our generation on this episode.Mostly by brutally massacring things that other people have told me.Here are the highlights:The more overlap in the Venn Diagram there is, the happier you are. Also, Nature is metal and will jack you up unless you take measures to fill your vacuums with good stuff.Make sense? Thought so.Listed and let me know what you think.Support the showAf...
2022-03-0217 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastFirefighter Pocket DumpSend us a textWe've done a lot of lifestyle episodes here and I like that vein a lot, but there's been a request for a pocket dump.My daily fire gear carry has changed over the years but I've always kept it light and fast. What do you think of my three "secret sauce" tools?Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code TAILBOARD for 15% offFourth Frontier.com Use code F...
2022-02-2320 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastFitness FRAUDSSend us a textRecently a story from 2019 resurfaced as charges were brought against a fitness influencer for defrauding her clients.Curt and I sit down to talk about spotting a fraud and the differences between an influencer, and a coach.Shoutouts to John Rusin and Ben Bruno for some reference material.I made a quick mention of a company that does a great job at providing a high level of value to their digital fitness clients. Find Level 10 on IG and see what they're all about.Check out 4t...
2022-02-1635 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastIntermittent Solo Parenting With KatieSend us a textOne of the unique dynamics of the fire service is the intermittent solo parent system.Every third day (or more) one of the members is given the reins to the household and the other is on shift for at least 24 hours.Today Katie and I are talking about this dynamic, most importantly we address the positive aspects of the system.How do you manage your intermittent solo parenting?Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD...
2022-02-0926 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastUn-Scientific Review of Scientific Study: FatigueSend us a textSolo effort on this one but I'm going over a study that caught my eye. I'll also be doing it in a way that would make any true scientist shake their head and throw a graduated cylinder across the lab.Effects of Fatigue on Functional Movement Efficiency in Physically Active AdultsSpoiler alert: Fatigue makes us not move so good.Have a quick listen to hear how to combat that fact and avoid those injuries.Find the study here:https://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/a...
2022-02-0214 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastOn Shift Workouts With CurtSend us a textWorld Premiere of Baby Sawyer.Nathan had a doctor's appointment today so it was easier to bring Sawyer with me to record than sending her with Katie. Except for when she took one look at Curt and decided that today was the day she would wage war.After about 30 mins of calming her down, we got on the mics and talked about working out on shift. What our preferences are, dislikes, guidelines, and advice to progress yourself without sacrificing ability.Both Curt and I bring up some po...
2022-01-2629 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastCo-Host Katie ContinuedSend us a textTurns out we had some more to talk about from the topics of the previous episode.But first, Katie cracks open a Cosmo article about dating firefighters so we dig in a little.Talking to our kids about my job is something we didn't have to think about yet but it has certainly become a topic of conversation since. So thank you for the prompt and we'll be looking for more suggestions on topics in the future.Support the showAffiliate links:
2022-01-1928 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastIG Questions With KatieSend us a textWe hit the couch for some IG questions about raising our kids in a fire family, cooking at the FD, and dating your spouse.First, Katie demanded a retraction/revision on my description of her gift giving M.O.Enjoy and reach out with any topics or questions.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code TAILBOARD for 15% offFourth Frontier.com Use code FFTailboard for 25% discount on...
2022-01-1223 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastYour Questions, Our AnswersSend us a textMaybe our most important and personal episode to date. Curt and I answer two questions that were submitted through IG.1. How do you meet clients/FF where they are when it comes to fitness?2. What advice would you tell your younger self about maintaining your wellbeing over the course of a career?Of course, the first 10 minutes is mostly talk about coffee, K cups, and napping.This is one of our most loaded episodes.Contact us at 4thshiftfit@gmail.com@4thshiftfitness
2022-01-0551 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastDifferent Date, Same You.Send us a textNot only have a failed numerous New Years resolutions, I'm really good at failing mid year and end of year ones too.Besides resolutions we talk bout the crew gifts from last shift, homemade ice cream, Apple watch vs Whoop, and using the landmine with a safety squat bar.Another fun episode with Curt, so check it out.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code TAILBOARD for 15% off
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Movie MarksEpisode 28 - Jingle All The Way 2 starring Santino MarellaThis week on the show we will be playing the part of the relatives you don't care enough about to visit on or even before Christmas. The holiday is over and now you have to go to their houses and awkwardly exchange gifts. Well just like your worst aunt, we got you a gift you're sure to hate. Instead of the the Arnold version of Jingle All the Way we got you a stocking stuffed with Larry the Cable Guy. This week we're talking about Jingle All the Way 2, the sequel nobody wanted with absolutely zero of the original's...
2021-12-291h 30Tailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastCrew Gifts, Donuts, Fritters, YouTube VideosSend us a textIs the gift card your go-to?I picked up the rule of "everyone gets a gift on Christmas" from the first department I worked at. And when I brought it to my current department, I had a few instances where it didn't work out very well.But after all the gift giving talk, we get into the real topics. Donuts, fritters, the importance of a hand picked dozen, and how Curt and I have attempted to shape the future generations opinoin of pastries.We also talk about the...
2021-12-2225 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastWorking Out on Vacation: Needed or Overrated?Send us a textWhen you pack for a vacation, are you packing workout clothes or athleisure wear?All of my jeans are actually just denim leggings (shout out Lee XTreme Motion Jeans), so I guess I'm ready for either.But, Katie and I talk about 3 reasons why workouts are NEEDED on vacation, and 3 reasons they're OVERRATED.Check it out and let us know what you think.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code...
2021-12-1621 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastHoliday Eating, Food Shame, Jeremy Shockey, Horses, Bubbles, Brain Stuff.Send us a textThe original topic was Holiday Eating. But both Curt and I operate on some relatively fundamental principles when it comes to that.So, the conversation wandered.Enjoy, and have some pie.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code TAILBOARD for 15% offFourth Frontier.com Use code FFTailboard for 25% discount on the X2 strapAthletic Brewing- Code TTFP10Submit topics/request guests T...
2021-12-0919 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastDevote December Launch Party! Feat Annette ZappSend us a textAnnette joins me to launch Devote December 21!How perfect that it's on a Wednesday and its Tailboard Talk posting day. Devote December is an awareness and action campaign that strives to reduce fire and EMS suicide. This year it's the same goal, but a much different look.Each weekday, we will be giving you an option of activities to do. Pick one, do both, do your own thing, whatever. But we recognize the link between physical activity and mental health and we're doubling down.Please go v...
2021-12-0120 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastNo Place Like Home For The HolidaysSend us a textIn this episode, I call myself a hero and Katie laughs openly and disrespectfully for approximately one minute.Aside from that, we talk about lessons we've learned in navigating holidays with a fire department schedule and the environment that the last two years has brought.We're also looking for a little help. We both know the riskiest thing you can do is ask for parenting advice, but here we are. What things should we know about the upcoming years, with a toddler and newly mobile infant?I pr...
2021-11-2421 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastHome Gym Essentials by Chris and CurtSend us a textWe're recording at LGN! Ironically, talking about home gyms while sitting in one of the most decked-out training facilities in the world. While Curt is more of a Kettlebell, Speed Cord guy, I fancy myself as a suspension trainer and landmine fella.We're covering a lot of ground on this one. So enjoy and let us know what you would need in a home gym.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Opt...
2021-11-1742 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastDevote December 2021 PreviewSend us a textDevote December is a project that Annette from FireSQFitness and I started in 2019. The point was to honor those Fire and EMS personnel who took their lives and spur action that could save others.Over the past two years, Devote December has continue to evolve and this episode is all about how we're running 2021.Please follow @DevoteDecember on social media and tag us all through the month of December with how you're using your 15 min daily DOSE to improve your mental and physical health.Shout outs in th...
2021-11-1019 minTailboard Talks Firefighter Podcast3 Gaps in Your Training- Chris and CurtSend us a textMost mass-marketed programs or even commercial gym programs are solid on the push, press, and flexion.But as Curt talks about in the episode, there are "Show" muscles and "Go" muscles. The three areas we're talking about today are all Go, all the time.If your program is lacking in rotation/ anti-rotation, pulling, or sprinting, you're at a supreme disadvantage when it comes to staying healthy and injury-free.Remember, one of the main pillars of 4th Shift Fitness is to be more durable on the job, and c...
2021-11-0333 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastThe Morning After, With Co-Host KatieSend us a text**Lifestyle Episode Alert**Today Katie comes on and we talk about the morning after. Specifically the morning after shift. When I come home ready to check out and shut down, and shes 3 hours into her day and has a to-do list at the ready.Or, that's how it used to be. But we had to make some changes.This is an episode that can be useful for any season of life that you're in. We'll share how we've adapted to make it work (mostly) over the past 11 year...
2021-10-2730 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastMobility for FirefightingSend us a textIn the world of Firefighting, being mobile translates to being effective.But on an individual basis, how much mobility is really needed to keep us safe and injury free?In this episode, Curt and I hit some points on mobility for firefighters. We talk about the three most important areas to have mobility in, gear upgrades, and how strength training sets the table for mobility.Check out our youtube pages for tons of movements, workout ideas, and content. Send in your episode suggestions so we can keep th...
2021-10-2031 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastTop Ten Bodyweight MovementsSend us a textChris and Curt sit down to talk about their top bodyweight movements for fire/ems and general wellness. Each gives their top 3 strength builders plus 2 mobility moves.All of the movements are available on either the 4th Shift or LGN Performance Youtube pages. Check them out for thousands of movement videos.Always feel free to reach out to Chris or Curt at @4thShiftFitness or @LGN_Performance on social. 4thShiftFit@gmail.com for email. Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD...
2021-10-1354 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastWhy We Left CrossFitSend us a textWhen LGN opened in 2011, it was a CrossFit affiliate. Shortly after its first year, the CrossFit name was replaced with "Performance." Shortly after that, the affiliate status was dropped.It's not a path for everyone or every gym. But, it allowed LGN to grow its membership numbers, retention numbers, coaches and instilled pride and ownership in the product.If you love CrossFit, it's still OK to like this episode.If someone you know should hear it for one reason or another, please spread it around. I'd love to c...
2021-10-0650 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastCo-Host Curt HansonSend us a textThe man that gave me my first real opportunity to transition from an exercise enthusiast who occasionally gives out bad advice, to a legitimate coach who occasionally gives out bad advice.Curt Hanson is a 17 year veteran of the fire service as well as the owner of LGN Performance, a strength and conditioning gym in the suburbs of Chicago.We cover a lot of ground in this one as we go into the idiot vs expert or enthusiast vs coach topic. So buckle up and enjoy. Get ready to he...
2021-09-2938 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastA Real Take on Firefighter Fitness, Just Don't Be The Weak LinkSend us a textIn this episode, you'll get a truly realistic view of firefighter fitness. Maybe don't worry about being on next years sexy fireman calendar, maybe just don't be the weak link in your crew or department.Just to be clear, that does NOT mean to settle for the minimum standard. To find out what it means and how to stay in the majority of the fitness continuum, check out the episode.If you're ready to start making your way back to the middle or even creeping towards the maniacs, you ca...
2021-09-2224 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastWarm Ups And Movement Prep For Fire And EMSSend us a textFull Disclaimer- I don't really enjoy warm-ups. They get tedious, repetitive, and kinda boring. BUT, they are something that I truly have never regretted doing (once I convince myself to do it)In this episode, I share the function, and how to build an excellent warm-up to get you ready for any training session.It's something I'd love to share with your department in person so let's coordinate.Talk to you soon.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TA...
2021-09-1521 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastMobility, Stability, FlexibilitySend us a textWhat are they and how much of them do you really need?If you've been on a quest for more flexibility, maybe it's time to look at another aspect.Also, how wide is your sidewalk?Find more 4th Shift on youtube and all social media. Email 4thshiftfit@gmail.com to set up a presentation for your department or to find out about personal training through the truecoach app.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD f...
2021-09-0814 minTailboard Talks Firefighter Podcast6 Keys to Better CoachesSend us a textIn my efforts to further diversify and grow 4th Shift Fitness, I've started to look at selling articles. When I went back to look for some to re-do, I found one called "How to build client trust as a digital coach"In this episode, I share my top 3 ideas for being a good coach and Katie joins to share her top 3 things she looks for in a coach (as if she was ever going to shop around)Check it out and let me know what you look for in y...
2021-08-2521 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastOne Year of Tailboard TalkSend us a textOne year, 28 episodes, and better than 50% of all those other losers who start a podcast and quit in their first year. (statistics yet to be verified)We're one year in and it's been quite a journey. I had a ton of really awesome conversations in my head leading up to recording. I chose not to write them down because I knew I would remember them when the light came on. And when I started recording, none of them came back. Not a one.So, not needless to say, but thank...
2021-08-1110 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastKatie Questions: Intermittent FastingSend us a textIs it a fad, a hoax, good, bad, or just a fancy way to eat too much?One thing is for sure, referring to someone's "feeding window" is hilarious and makes them sound like livestock.Katie has questions, and I have insufficient answers.What's your take on it?Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code TAILBOARD for 15% offFourth Frontier.com Use code FFTailboard for 25% discount...
2021-07-2820 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastWhoop, there it isn'tSend us a textCould it be the end of the Whoop era for 4th Shift Fitness? I'm nearly two years into wearing the tracker and I've pieced together some 5 am thoughts on the product.In this episode, I run through some things I like and don't like about the Whoop Strap and some of the lessons I've learned along the way. Remember, treat the patient not the monitor.Plus a possible way to keep using it in the future...maybe.If you've used a fitness wearable for some time now, I...
2021-07-1416 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastCompensations, Questions, TantrumsSend us a textWarning, the audio level jumps up dramatically at the 90second markAn incredible episode because MY WIFE is on! We start out talking about how I am stupid and created some compensation injuries on a recent charity ruck.Then she introduces her new segment, to be named later, but she runs the latest influencer trends through the 4th Shift filter.Then we close out with some understandable and relatable rage on the topic of our 2-year old's newfound ability to throw epic tantrums.All in a...
2021-06-3019 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastYou Can and Should, Squat.Send us a textDon't buy into the hype. Your knees won't explode, your back won't crumble, your neck won't get crushed if you squat.Well, to be honest, those things might happen. But that's if you do the WRONG squats. The trick is to find the squat that works for you and a coach you can trust. That's what I'm talking about this week.There are nearly endless variations of the squat and I detail 4-5 of them that I use as my go-to options. Including one very unexpected one.Find...
2021-06-1614 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastFailure is Always an OptionSend us a text"They'll tell you that failure is not an option, that is ridiculous. Failure is always an option. Failure is the most readily available option at all times" Chael SonnenIf you believe the hype, you might fall into the trap that failure is just a normal part of everyday life. That you HAVE to fail hundreds of times before succeeding. That you should embrace failure.I believe those are all the result of defining down what failure is. To me, failure is a 'top shelf' term. Failure is a big, for...
2021-06-0216 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastMy EAP ExperienceSend us a textFor so many of us, EAP can be the first step to getting some sort of outside help. In this episode, I go through the process of using EAP. My personal story of coming to the realization that it was time to reach out is for another day. But today, I'm giving an inside look at how the EAP process runs in hopes that I can take away a little bit of the fear of the unknown that may be holding someone back.It's a rambly, choppy, mess of an episode. But...
2021-05-1916 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastAdvice for Imposters, Nate Palin and Hunter Schurrer TakeoverSend us a textIn this takeover, you get not one, but TWO experts throwing information your way. Nate Palin and Hunter Schurrer break down the role of the imposter in strength and conditioning as well as ways to succeed as one.To see more of Nate and Hunter, hit their social pagesIG @natepalin and @theperformancesyndicateWhile you're there, be on the lookout for Pots, Pints, and PR's which is their new podcast scheduled to drop in May.Thank you for your continued support, please pass these episodes along t...
2021-05-0525 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastDUTY TRADE: Annette Zapp, Why your fire department does not need a 'fitness' program.Send us a textAs kids we’re taught to call 911 for help when he have an emergency level concern about our health, safety, or well-being.And the fire service knows to call neighboring departments when the emergency outstrips their resources.Why then, do most departments not call for help with their health and wellness and simply choose to ‘take care of fitness’ in house?When you KNOW better, you can DO better. And after this episode, you will know better.Find more about Annette at www.FireSQFitness.com and see...
2021-04-2127 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastWhat to Look For in A CoachSend us a textIt's easier than ever to scroll through an endless feed of fitness enthusiasts and coaches. But how are you supposed to know which ones are right for you?It might take a little research. And by "research" I mean the contemporary definition of scrolling social media. But, these points can help you get pointed in the right direction.1. Do you relate to their fitness interests AND their lifestyle? They might do the thing you like, but are they living in an artificial existence with 3-hour workouts and a 4-hour morn...
2021-04-0716 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastGrip Strength is the X FactorSend us a textThere are so many operations on the fireground or ems scene where your grip is the make or break factor. From pulling hose, pulling the halyard, carrying patients, forcible entry, RIT scenarios, your grip will either be an asset or a liability.Training your grip is important but training it properly is the key. Using switch grips and straps to make up for your weak little paws isn't going to help you when you need it.Share your grip training methods on IG with me so I can spread th...
2021-03-2419 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastRyan Mains is Run(ning) For Our LivesSend us a textRyan Mains is a veteran and former Firefighter Paramedic for the Woodstock FPD. After developing PTSD, Ryan tried several methods of therapy and treatment including EAP, assistance from the Illinois Firefighter Peer Support, and a 30 day stay at the IAFF Center of Excellence.After returning from the Center of Excellence, Ryan felt renewed and strong. However, the struggles continued, and shortly after returning, he was deemed unfit for duty due to PTSD. Prior to his career being cut short, Ryan and his wife had started the Run For Our Liv...
2021-03-101h 00Tailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastYour Topics and Hot TakesSend us a textLive from the road! I'm getting into four questions that I've received in person and through social media.1. Could my wonky hip be causing my knee pain?2. How can I eat like an A-Hole and still be ripped?3. Does your department have an annual fitness test? Should they?4. When is it OK to work out in fire gear?Go to 4thShiftFitness.com to order your T-shirt and stickers!Reach out if you're interested in having the 4th Shift out to your department for fitness an...
2021-02-2420 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastThe Vaccine EpisodeSend us a textIn this episode, I share a small sample of what being assigned to an ambulance during a pandemic has been like and how those experiences developed my opinion on the COVID Vaccine.These are my views, my feelings, and my opinions and do not represent my department, my employer, or my municipality.I do share some details that are meant to educate but may be considered sensitive or triggering so please be aware of that.I also bring up a lot of theories about how this virus...
2021-02-1024 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastThe Most Misunderstood Supplement: Creatine IS For Firefighters!Send us a textDr Scott Forbes joins us on this episode of Tailboard Talk.Dr. Scott Forbes is an associate professor in the Department of Physical Education at Brandon University and an Adjunct Professor in the faculty of Kinesiology and Health Studies at the University of Regina. Dr. Forbes has completed the International Olympic Committee Diploma in Sports Nutrition and is a Clinical Exercise Physiologist and Performance Specialist through the Canadian Society for Exercise Physiology. His primary research examines various nutritional and exercise interventions to enhance performance in a variety of populations. Dr...
2021-01-2738 min
Monarch Human Performance PodcastLT. Chris Marella (4th Shift Fitness): Submaximal Training and Incentive Based Fitness in The Fire Service.Lieutenant Chris Marella's career in the fire service began in 2003 as a part time/ paid on call firefighter EMT-B for a combination department in the western suburbs of Chicago. Over the next 5 years Chris completed his paramedic certification and worked in several departments as a paid on call, contract paramedic and full time firefighter. In 2008 Chris moved to his current fire department in the suburbs of Chicago working alongside 138 fire personnel across 7 stations to serve a a community of 130 thousand residents.
Growing up Chris was a multi sport athlete with a main focus on h...
2021-01-2254 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastBe Known As... Interview with Matt MangumSend us a textMatt Mangum has been a:Record-setting powerlifterD1 Strength CoachFirefighter ParamedicBut none of these things are what he want's to be known for. If you listen to one story, make sure it's the one that Matt tells in the last 5 minutes of this episode.The long format felt like the only way to truly tell *most* of Matt's story. WARNING- This episode is a time warp and you will NOT understand how the time passes so quickly.Support the sh...
2021-01-131h 44Tailboard Talks Firefighter Podcast2020 Wrap Up! DABDASend us a textFinishing out the year with a bang!Just a quick little info about DABDA that we should all know, then some important info (talking T shirts) and some stuff to look forward to in 2021.Not to mention a heavy thank you to all of you.Talk to you soon.Be a 4th Shifter. Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code TAILBOARD for 15% offFourth Frontier.com U...
2020-12-3019 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastRising Above My PTSD Part 2, Matt SpaidSend us a textIn part 2, Matt finds his way back from being "a jobless, homeless veteran" to the life he once had, but even better.Matt goes into his timeline at Camp Hope, getting back into the coaching and firefighting world, and the big move to his new full-time department.Matt lists off several takeaways from his journey that you will not want to miss.Support the showAffiliate links:Rescue1CBD Use code TAILBOARD for 15% off Frontline Optics use code...
2020-12-2340 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastRising Above My PTSD, Matt SpaidSend us a textAs part of the Devote December series, we're talking to people who have used physical fitness to improve their mental health. Matt Spaid is an incredible example of just that.Matt is a former Marine and current firefighter who developed PTSD and is sharing his journey with us.In part 1 of the story, we'll hear how Matt's PTSD developed, how it led to the loss of his fire department job, his coaching job, and in his words "I lost my mind."Matt continued a rollercoaster of events, e...
2020-12-1657 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastEp 9: Interview with Kelsey WittmannSend us a textDuring the month of December, we're talking to people who have stories to tell about fitness and mental health.Kelsey has a story of resilience, perseverance, and, growth that will absolutely floor you.We go into her traumatic past, current struggles, and the ways she has used and is using fitness and nutrition to keep her above board and operating at a high level.If you're interested in learning more about Devote December, the best place to look is Instagram or FB. Join us in raising awareness a...
2020-12-0241 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastEp 8: COVID + Update, Incentivized Fitness Program Update, #DevoteDecember ReplaySend us a textThis episode is going to sound a little different and not just because I'm recovering from COVID. But, after a quick bit of housekeeping on that very subject, we'll talk about how the incentivized fitness program went. I'll give you an overview of participation as well as some takeaways that you can use for your programs.Then, we're revisiting the #DevoteDecember portion of Episode 3. I know, I know, we're talking about Devote December a lot. But, that's because it's starting in like two weeks!There's a ton jamm...
2020-11-1823 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastAnnette Zapp, Tiny Habits, #DevoteDecember Warm UpSend us a textToday we're talking Tiny Habits. A system used by BJ Fogg and the subject of one of the most applicable TED Talks ever. Implementing any sort of meaningful change has to start small. There are three things that need to happen and one major way to structure it to give the best chance of success.We're going to use the Tiny Habits model as a way to get ready for #DevoteDecember, which is just one month away!Check out how Annette and I are going to get ready for Dec...
2020-11-0422 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastEp 6: Interview with Dr. Brigitta Ziemba, ND @dr_brigitta_ndSend us a textEpisode 6 is an amazing interview episode with Dr. Brigitta Ziemba, ND. But not only is she a naturopathic doctor, but she is also a front-line paramedic with over a decade of experience.We discuss how she balances the life of a naturopath with the regimented SMO driven occupation of a paramedic as well as some fundamental pillars of health and wellness.Dr. Brigitta shares a very unique perspective on wellness and the future of our ability to stay resilient and healthy in these trying times.Find her o...
2020-10-2133 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastEp 5: You Should Be Using Submaximal Training!Send us a textEveryone loves to go 'All out' but doing all the time that leaves some major blindspots in your fitness and more importantly, how your fitness transfers to the fireground.Today we're talking about a topic that Aaron Quinn briefly touched on in episode 4. We'll review what maximal and submaximal training are and some downfalls of using maximal training as your only training.I'll also give you a couple of ways to incorporate submaximal training immediately!Support the showAffiliate links:R...
2020-10-0726 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastEp 4: Interview with Aaron Quinn @Live.Serve.ThriveSend us a textToday we're talking to Aaron Quinn from the City of Oakland FD. Aaron grew up in Oakland, Ca has been with the Oakland FD for 20 years. He has been integral in the fitness and training of new recruits as lead instructor at the training tower.We run through his philosophy and tactics as a veteran FF, instructor, and mentor. As well as the changes he's seen in the fire service in the past 20 years.I also bait him into one of my favorite conversations; working out in fire gear.
2020-09-2330 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastEp 3: FD Incentivized Fitness Programs, Devote December, Spring 4 ChangeSend us a textThree topics nail the Fitcast principles of Purposeful, Practical, and Applicable. We're going over my department's FIRST EVER incentivized fitness program. I developed this program and will talk about how it was structured, how I presented it to the union and department, and how it's going. Also 4 things you NEED to do when pitching a program to your department.September is also Suicide Prevention and Awareness Month and there is no more appropriate time to talk about Devote December and Spring 4 Change. These are two campaigns that I am a part of w...
2020-09-0949 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastEpisode 2: Are Fitness Trackers for First Responders? A Whoop ReviewSend us a textIn this episode, we'll talk about using fitness trackers as firefighters and paramedics. Can they be effective and useful even though we live by a different set of rules? Here's the episode breakdown:1:00 Welcome and topic intro1:41 September Fall Fitness Initiative preview2:35 Intro to fitness tracker types and features5:29 What is the Whoop Strap?8:15 Whoop vs Apple9:20 Sleep tracking and how Whoop helps keep you healthy in the times of COVID12:00 Heart Rate tracking during incidents on shift13:45 Whoop Cons17:50 How much does it...
2020-08-2623 minTailboard Talks Firefighter PodcastEpisode 1: A re-introduction to Chris, 4th Shift Fitness, and Tailboard TalkSend us a textWelcome to the new and improved Tailboard Talk. The best resource for firefighters and paramedics health and wellness.Making Tailboard Talk a Fitcast instead of a video segment will make it more portable, more digestible, and let us get into more detail on the stuff you need to know to keep yourself in the fight, in service, and happy in retirement. In this episode, we run through my bio, the history and purpose of 4th Shift Fitness, and some ground rules on what Tailboard Talk will be and will NO...
2020-08-1030 min
Podcast Episodes – The Fire Inside Podcast062 – Creating Mental Resiliency through Meaningful Training – Interview with Annette Zapp and Chris MarellaIn this episode of The Fire Inside Podcast I interview Annette Zapp and Chris Marrella who will be presenting at the 2020 Illinois Firefighter Peer Support Symposium in Chicago on February 20-21, 2020. Click HERE to register for the event! Annette Zapp: A 15-year veteran of the fire service, Annette Zapp holds the rank of Lieutenant on a busy suburban Chicago engine … 062 – Creating Mental Resiliency through Meaningful Training – Interview with Annette Zapp and Chris Marella Read More »
2020-02-1743 min