Shows
Pedagodzilla on TourRIDL HE ConferenceHere is a compilation of the seven interviews with eight people Mark conducted with participants at the Research in Digital Learning Conference at Northumbria University today (3rd September 2025) https://hosting2.northumbria.ac.uk/ridlhe/ People chatting were Nashwa Ismail, Andrew Middleton, Jane Secker, Chris Morrison, Neil Dixon, Aisla Ingham, Alex Moseley and Susannah Quinsee
2025-09-031h 08
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 28 with Monica WestinChris and Jane (copyrightliteracy.org) talk to upcoming Icepops keynote Monica Westin about her journey from library school, through to Google, Manchester Metropolitan University and now to Cambridge University Press. We discuss how big tech companies deal with copyright takedown requests, what the legal and ethnical implications of new technologies are on finding and accessing information and finally what her favourite cake is.
With thanks to Aiden Clark for his editing support on this episode.
Monica's blog: https://www.monicawestin.com/
Monica will be our keynote at Icepops 2025: https://copyrightliteracy.org/2025/07/17/icepops-2025-draft-programme-now-available/
California Digital Library: https://cdlib.org/
Google...
2025-07-2244 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 27 with Carl Magnus Palm - ABBA expertChris and Jane (copyrightliteracy.org) talk to researcher, author and the world's leading expert on all things ABBA - Carl Magnus Palm. They discuss ABBA's origins and the division of creative labour in the band, how the band got their name, the ABBA revival in the 1990s and how they have responded to the huge number of tribute acts. They also share stories of the authorised and unauthorised uses of ABBA's music and once again get dragged into the weird world of the KLF.
Links to things mentioned in the show:
Abba at 50 in the news and BBC documentary:
https...
2024-08-111h 22
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 26 with John HiggsJane and Chris speak to bestselling author and cultural historian John Higgs about how copyright is intertwined in the weird and fascinating stories he has explored in his books. We talk about Ian Fleming's gold-plated typewriter, the KLF's scrapes with unauthorised sampling, how creative people go fishing for big ideas, how copyright supports him as an author and what the future holds for the next generation of creators.
Podcast editing by Emma Guilbert
Links to things mentioned in the episode
John Higgs website: https://johnhiggs.com/ (sign up to his newsletter here)
Love and Let Die Book: https://johnhiggs.com...
2024-06-231h 09
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 25 With Professor Carys CraigJane and Chris talk to copyright legend Professor Carys Craig (and her best pal Brodie - pictured) about her copyright history, critical legal studies, the fact that copyright is not neutral, the saga of copyright litigation in Canadian universities, copyright anxiety and of course her favourite cake.
Editing by the fabulous Emma Guilbert
Carys Craig biography at Osgoode Law school
www.osgoode.yorku.ca/faculty-and-st…craig-carys-j/
Carys is the author of Copyright, Communication & Culture: Towards a Relational Theory of Copyright Law (2011), and the co-editor of Trade-marks and Unfair Competition Law: Cases and Commentary, 2nd ed. (Toronto: Carswell, 2014) and Copyright: Cases an...
2024-05-031h 10Pedagodzilla on TourChris Morrison, Jana Oehlke and Jane Secker on piss poor teaching at Playful Learning 2023Chris Morrison (Bodleian Library), Jana Oehlke (Swansea University) and Jane Secker (City University) talk to Mark about piss poor teaching, and why you need to keep your Zoom links private.
2024-03-1523 min
Rock, Paper, Swords! - the Historical Action and Adventure PodcastAI and Copyright for writers with the 'Copyright Waffle' podcast!Listen to the end to make sure you hear THEIR cover version of our theme song, and also OUR cover of their theme song!
Our guests today are Chris Morrison and Jane Secker from the Copyright Waffle podcast which is dedicated to “Decoding copyright and bringing you enlightenment”.
As well as hosting their podcast, Jane and Chris are also the authors of the book Copyright and E-learning: A guide for practitioners.
Chris is Copyright and Licensing Specialist at Bodleian Libraries, University of Oxford. Jane is Programme Director for the MA in Academic Practice and S...
2024-01-051h 21
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 24 with Richard Ovenden - Bodley's LibrarianJane and Chris talk to Richard Ovenden OBE: Bodley's 25th librarian (and Chris's ultimate boss) about leading one of the world's greatest research libraries, his best selling book 'Burning the Books' and the copyright implications of preserving knowledge in the 21st century.
Photo credit: John Cairns
Links to things mentioned in the podcast:
Meet Bodley's Librarian: https://www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/about/libraries/bodleys-librarian
Burning the Books Radio 4 serialisation: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000m4pm
Tolkein at the Bodleian: https://tolkien.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/
Amazon's Rings of Power: https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Power-Season/dp/B09...
2023-09-221h 06
Chatting Info LitEpisode 3: #LILAC23 (with Copyright Waffle and Pedagodzilla)Podcasting eats itself this episode, as we are joined by guests Jane Secker & Chris Morrison (Copyright Waffle) and Mark Childs (one half of Pedagodzilla, with Mike Collins). Recorded in front of a live audience at LILAC 2023, the conversation covers all things podcasting and information literacy! We chat to our guests about how to get started casting the pods, and how the format works as a teaching tool. Meanwhile, the delegates and attendees at the conference share some of their IL tips and experiences!
2023-05-2257 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 23 with Emily DrabinskiChris and Jane (https://copyrightliteracy.org/) talk to incoming President of the American Library Association Emily Drabinski about critical librarianship and its relationship with copyright literacy. We hear about Emily's journey to library leadership, how she first encountered copyright questions, her plans for engaging with the library community and some weird facts about books. We also get to hear the song she commissioned to soundtrack her forthcoming presidency.
Music video for Emily Drabinski Rocking the ALA Presidency: https://youtu.be/L1teapiZDVw
Emily Drabinski's website: https://www.emilydrabinski.com/
Emily on twitter: https://twitter.com/edrabinski?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7...
2023-04-1748 min
PedagodzillaHow do you create the most sensational, inspirational, celebrational, muppetational community of practice? (Ft. Copyright Waffle)In this episode we’re joined by the fabulous Dr Jane Secker and Chris Morrison from the Copyright Waffle Podcast, where we revisit The Muppets, communities of practice – and share in the experiences in actually sitting within a community of practice. We loved meeting Chris and Jane so much at Playful Learning that we just… Continue reading How do you create the most sensational, inspirational, celebrational, muppetational community of practice? (Ft. Copyright Waffle)
2023-04-1459 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 22 with Tania TodorovaJane and Chris go on tour in this episode of Copyright Waffle, speaking to Tania Todorova, Professor of Library Sciences at the University of Library Sciences and Information Technologies in Sofia Bulgaria. In 2013 Tania created the copyright literacy survey to research how much librarians and those working in cultural heritage understand about copyright. The survey has subsequently been run in over 14 countries around the world and we maintain a list of publications on the International Copyright Literacy Survey webpage. We ran the survey in the UK in 2014 and published our findings in 2015 in the journal Library and Information Research.
Tania...
2022-12-3027 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 21 Cory DoctorowJane and Chris (copyrightliteracy.org) speak to science fiction author, journalist, digital rights activist and copyright legend Cory Doctorow.
We hear about his introduction to the copyright debates, his conversion to openness, the problems with the modern copyright regime and his latest book 'Chokepoint Capitalism' written with Rebecca Giblin. We also get his response to a song commemorating our conversation which appears to be by Kraftwerk.
Here are links to the things Cory mentions in the podcast:
Cory on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Doctorow
Cory's blog https://pluralistic.net/
Electronic Frontier Foundation https://www.eff.org/
Cult...
2022-11-091h 17Pedagodzilla on TourPedagodzilla at Playful Learning Day 2: Jane Secker and Chris Morrison, their keynote copyright cabaret and waffles! (nearly unedited)‘More unedited content?!’ I hear you cry. ‘Has the boy lost all pretence at quality?!’. Well partly that, but mainly this poor little laptop is just about up to connecting to the internet to upload mp3s. We’ll be home in a few days, with the chonky boi PC for some proper editing. And then you’ll… Continue reading Pedagodzilla at Playful Learning Day 2: Jane Secker and Chris Morrison, their keynote copyright cabaret and waffles! (nearly unedited)
2022-07-0757 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 20 With Mark Lewisohn Part 2Part two of a fascinating conversation where Jane and Chris (copyrightliteracy.org) talk to Beatles expert Mark Lewisohn about the link between the Beatles and copyright and his relationship with research and archives.
Mark (www.marklewisohn.net/) is the author of multiple best selling books on the Beatles, the most recent of which is 2013's Tune In, the first volume in the three part definitive history of the band. We are honoured to be given a tour of his archive which uncovers a wealth of fascinating historical source material. We finish with a discussion about Paul McCartney's efforts to regain...
2022-06-281h 05Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 20 With Mark Lewisohn Part 1Jane and Chris talk to leading Beatles expert Mark Lewisohn at his archive about the Beatles introduction to copyright and the ways in which they changed the music industry in the 1960s.
Mark (https://www.marklewisohn.net/) is the author of multiple best selling books on the Beatles, the most recent of which is 2013's Tune In, the first volume in the three part definitive history of the band.
Mark generously gave us the benefit of his time and expertise and guided us through some of the copyright infringement cases associated with the Beatles' music as well as their approach...
2022-06-091h 14
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 19 With Asun EsteveChris Morrison and Jane Secker (copyrightliteracy.org) speak to intellectual property expert Prof Asuncion Esteve Pardo from the University of Barcelona about her copyright history, her work in open access and share some musical banter and discussions about cake.
Asun gives us some of the background to her successful January 2022 seminar at Queen Mary University which you can watch at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnF_bM3OYFw. She also tells us about her copyright heroes who include Prof Artur-Axel Wandtke (https://wandtke.rewi.hu-berlin.de/), Prof Gerhard Schricker (https://www.ip.mpg.de/en/persons/prof-dr-dr-hc-mult-gerhard-schricker.html) and...
2022-04-031h 02
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle - Episode 18 Julia RedaChris and Jane talk to copyright activist and former MEP Julia Reda about her copyright history, how she got involved in copyright reform as a member of the European parliament, her research at the Berkman Klein Center Harvard, her copyright heroes and of course her favourite cake. Here are links to some of the things we talked about:
Space Oddity by Chris Hadfield - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo
21 Lessons for the 21st Century by Yuval Noah Harari - https://www.ynharari.com/book/21-lessons-book/
Kluwer Copyright Blog - http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/
Communia - https://www...
2021-07-231h 04
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle - Episode 17 Caroline BallJane and Chris from copyrightliteracy.org talk to Caroline Ball, academic librarian at the University of Derby and UK Wikimedian of the Year 2020. Caroline tells us about her copyright history in fan fiction, her pioneering use of Wikipedia for Information Literacy teaching and her involvement in the EbookSOS campaign.
Links to information in the podcast:
Barry Trotter and the Shameless Parody by Michael Gerber https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Barry_Trotter
It’s a Wonderful Life, Basically (episode of Sorry!) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0705319/
Archive of Our Own (Organization for Transformative Works) https://archiveofourown.org/about
Adam Buxton in...
2021-04-301h 04
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle - Episode 16 Maren DeepwellJane and Chris talk to Dr Maren Deepwell, CEO of the Association for Learning Technology (ALT) about her history and the links between copyright and online learning at a time of pandemic. We discuss her PhD studies into Victorian cemeteries, open leadership, the new ALT Copyright and Online Learning Special Interest Group (CoOL SIG), her copyright heroes, pets and of course her favourite cake.
2021-03-2649 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 15 Ben Marsh of the Marsh FamilyChris and Jane waffle with Dr Ben Marsh of internet singing sensations the Marsh Family. Ben talks about his family's rise to fame performing parody versions of popular songs during the lockdown, the challenges of navigating copyright law and his thoughts on freedom of expression. He also tells us about his academic work at the University of Kent, gives a shout out to his copyright heroes and tells us about his favourite cake.
Here are some links to things we refer to in the podcast:
Marsh Family YouTube page - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMmgu60G09zrL9JsrFZYgqA/videos
...
2021-03-1154 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 14 Richard MisekIn this podcast Jane and Chris talk to Dr Richard Misek, Senior Lecture in Film at the University of Kent. They talk about his involvement with copyright as a film maker and teacher, the challenges that copyright can cause for creative reuse and the importance of fair dealing and fair use. He also talks about his copyright heroes, and of course his favourite cakes.
2021-01-141h 00
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 13 Mark Walford (Sage Publishing)Chris and Jane talk to Mark Walford, Vice President Rights & Business Development at Sage Publishing. We talk about his copyright history in the publishing industry, his historical copyright hero and a nerdy fact about copyright which involves an epic battle. And of course they talk about cake, but also biscuits. At great length. You might want to skip that bit when you get to it.
2020-03-2051 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 12 Simon AndersonIn this episode Chris and Jane talk to music publisher, composer, musician and copyright enthusiast Simon Anderson, Director of Publishing at Audio Network. Simon talks about his history in the music industry, the importance of copyright and his research into copyright infringement cases. He also shares his copyright heroes, his favourite nerdy facts about copyright and the latest news in music and copyright. And of course, he talks about his favourite cake.
There are some short extracts from the musical works discussed, included under fair dealing provisions:
Blurred Lines - Thicke/Williams/Harris Jr/Gaye, 2013
Got to Give It Up...
2019-12-1658 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 11 Sol PicciottoChris and Jane talk to Sol Picciotto, Emeritus Professor at Lancaster University about his experiences of teaching in higher education and the part he played in defining copyright licensing in the UK. Sol's story starts in Dar Es Salaam in the 1960s, travels through the UK copyright tribunal and ends up in the Middle East where we discuss his favourite sweet treat.
2019-10-271h 17
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle - Episode 10 Teresa HackettThe latest episode of Copyright Waffle where we chat to Teresa Hackett, the Copyright and Libraries Programme Manager for EIFL (Electronic Information for Libraries). She talks about her advocacy work on copyright reform, the training and support offered to libraries in developing and transition countries, how she got into copyright and her favourite cake.
2019-10-0249 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 9 Charlie FarleyChris and Jane talk to Icepops 2019 keynote (Stephanie) Charley Farley from the University of Edinburgh about her copyright history, copyright heroes and the approach she takes to playful learning and open education at the University of Edinburgh.
2019-06-0722 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 8 Andrea & DougChris and Jane talk to Andrea Wallace and Douglas McCarthy about their work on creating an open GLAM database, tracking which cultural institutions are providing digitised collection items on an openly licensed basis. They also talk about the Creative Commons Summit, Portuguese custard tarts and face swapping.
2019-05-2436 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 7 Lionel BentlyChris and Jane talk to Lionel Bently about his copyright history and heroes, his work on quotation exceptions and the difficulty in negotiating the train networks of south east England.
2019-02-1446 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 6 Judy NokesChris and Jane talk to Judy Nokes, Crown Copyright, Copyright and Information Policy Adviser at the National Archives about her career history, copyright heroes and the practicalities of haggling with the queen over licence terms.
2019-02-0632 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 5 - James Bennett - 06 11 2018Jane and Chris talk to James Bennett, Head of Rights and Licensing at the Copyright Licensing Agency (CLA) about his copyright history, his current projects and his views on publishing, gardening, Westlife and cookies.
2018-11-0845 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 4 - Jose Bellido - 23:10:2018Jane and Chris talk to Dr Jose Bellido, Senior Lecturer at the University of Kent Law School about his copyright history, his work on intellectual property and his favourite cakes.
2018-10-2442 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 3 - Bartolomeo Meletti 16:10:2018Bartolomeo Meletti, Creative Director of copyrightuser.org and Copyright Service Delivery Manager at Learning on Screen talks about his copyright history, his copyright heroes at the CREATe research centre and whether all Italians like copyright, ice cream and spaghetti.
2018-10-1732 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 2 - Eleonora Rosati at Copy Camp 06:10:2018, 18.41Chris and Jane chat to Dr Eleonora Rosati during the CopyCamp conference in Poland Warsaw. She talks about her copyright history, shares what she is working on at the moment and some copyright news.
2018-10-0732 min
Copyright WaffleCopyright Waffle Episode 1 - 02:09:2018Copyright Waffle Episode 1 - 02:09:2018 by Chris Morrison and Jane Secker (UK Copyright Literacy)
2018-09-0426 min
eLearning Stuffe-Learning Stuff Podcast #091: Conversing about copyright
We converse about the current topics and issues in copyright in higher education.
With James Clay, Jane Secker and Chris Morrison.
This is the 91st e-Learning Stuff Podcast Conversing about copyright.
2016-06-121h 00