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Thereafter117 - Melissa Duge Spiers | Holy DisobedienceToday's guest is Melissa Duge Spiers, author of the soon to be released, Holy Disobedience: A Survivor’s Journey from the Church that Betrayed Her—a book that does just that.Melissa’s story is one of survival, revelation, and ultimately, moving forward into real life. Raised in the Seventh-Day Adventist (SDA) Church, an enormous Christian fundamentalist sect that exists under the radar despite a larger worldwide membership (22M+) than the Mormons or Southern Baptists, she was taught to obey without question, live under rigid purity culture, and conform to a system that demanded silence in the face of...2025-04-221h 10
Thereafter116 - Emily Joy Allison | Purity Culture, #ChurchToo, and Where We Go From HereEmily Joy Allison is a writer, poet, and yoga teacher. She holds a degree in philosophical theology and apologetics from Moody Bible Institute and a Master of Theological Studies from Vanderbilt Divinity School. In November 2017, as the #MeToo movement was going viral, Emily came forward with her own story of abuse at the hands of her church and launched the #ChurchToo movement overnight. She has been writing and speaking about religious sexualized violence and its theological underpinnings ever since. Emily lives in Nashville, Tennessee.You can find links to all of her socials as well as info a...2025-03-131h 43
Thereafter114 - Marla Taviano Returns | Catching Up About Life, Books, Resistence, and MoreWe were so excited to have Marla back on the show this week! Marla Taviano (she/her/) is into: books, love, justice, globes, anti-racism, blue, gray, rainbows, poems (and a hundred other things). Reads and writes for a living (and a life). Wears her heart on her t-shirts. On a mission/quest/journey to live wholefarted (not a typo). (Big fan of parentheses—and em dashes.) She is mom to some freaking awesome kids and two cats and lives in South Carolina.Find out about her work and connect with her around the web by visiting her we...2025-02-201h 18
Thereafter113 - Lucas Wilson Returns | Surviving Conversion Therapy & New Book Shame-Sex AttractionThis week on the pod we have return guest Lucas Wilson!! Here to talk about his newly released book "Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors' Stories of Conversion Therapy". Lucas was on the pod before (way back on episode 022!) You can take a listen to that episode here if you'd like to hear more of Luke's personal story: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/022-luke-willson-gay-on-campus-at-liberty-university/id1534952602?i=1000527988045
We were so grateful for this opportunity to sit down with Lucas again and hope you'll go grab a copy of his book HERE: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shame-sex-attraction-survivors-stories-of-conversion-therapy-lucas-wilson/213607972025-01-291h 13
Thereafter112 - Meghan & Cortland | New Year Check inNo guest on today's episode. Meghan and Cortland spend the time catching up and filling you in about what has been going on in our lives along with some quick updates about canceling Content Warning and what's next for the pod!
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
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Thereafter111 - Nate Nakao | Full Mutuality in Deconstructionok, friends. We've been way behind! The conversation you're hearing on this episode with Nate was actually recorded a few months ago and the intro is even from a few weeks ago. Life has been coming at us fast and we've simply been way behind on all things for the pod.
We're so glad to finally be getting this one out and can't wait for you to hear our conversation with Nate Nakao!
Nate is a hobbyist, activist, writer, nerd, ice hockey fan and coach, and a PC gaming enthusiast. For his 9-5, he works...2024-12-311h 23Thereafter110 - Meghan & Cortland | Parenting Through Deconstruction, Our ExperiencesNo guest again this week. And sorry we are yet again releasing a little inconsistently this season. It's another good old yap session with Meghan and Cortland talking about parenting and their experiences with it through deconstruction.
As per the ad spot at the beginning of the episode we'd love to have you join us at Content Warning this coming February! You can get all the info and sign up to join us in person in Atlanta or virtually online at https://www.ContentWarningEvent.com/.
If you enjoy listening to the show, plea...2024-10-3054 minThereafter109 - Meghan & Cortland | Relationship Legibility - A Conversation on Polyamory, Divorce, Queerness & MoreNo guest this week. Instead it's just a good old yap session with Meghan and Cortland talking about relationships and the conversations we've been having about them lately.
As per the ad spot at the beginning of the episode we'd love to have you join us at Content Warning this coming February! You can get all the info and sign up to join us in person in Atlanta or virtually online at https://www.ContentWarningEvent.com/.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate...2024-10-021h 06Thereafter104 - Meghan and Cortland | TwitBits and a Conversation About the Ashley Madison DocuseriesQuick TW/CW about the begging of the episode. We talk a bit about the child sex abuses by Robert Morris and the response of Gateway Church. This topic may not be for everyone so feel free to skip over it to timestamp 17:00 to jump right to the main conversation of the episode. This story was originally published here: https://x.com/wartwatch/status/1801608034348613685
No guest this week. Instead it's just a good old yap session with Meghan and Cortland talking about the latest happenings and their thoughts on the newest Ashley Madison Docuseries...2024-06-271h 01
Thereafter097 - #ContentWarningEvent | A Recap and Debrief From the First Annual Content Warning WeekendThis week we don't have a guest. It's just Meghan and Cortland sitting down to chat about the Content Warning Event which happened over President's Day weekend in Portland, OR. If you missed attending virtually, a replay copy of the recorded sessions will be available soon via ContentWarningEvent.com.
Also, be on the lookout for details about next years Content Warning Event which we announced will be President's Day Weekend 2025 in Atlanta, GA.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate...2024-02-2759 min
Thereafter092 - Meghan & Cortland | Why We DeconstructNo guest this week! Instead, Meghan and Cortland catch up about the conversation that seems to be constantly coming back up from evangelicals on the internet, which is, WHY WE'RE ALL DECONSTRUCTING.
We'd love to hear from you too, so if you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email if you would be ok with the message or voice note being featured on an episode.
If you're interested in attending the event we...2023-12-051h 00
Thereafter089 - Brittany Bruton | Family Dynamics, Chronic Illness, and Navigating Evolving BeliefsThis week on the pod we are so grateful for the opportunity to sit down for a chat with Brittany Bruton! Brittany has been a dear friend of ours since before we were podcasting and we've wanted to have her on the pod for so long now! Make sure you give her a follow over on IG at: https://www.instagram.com/brittnbloom/
Also, if you're looking for a link to the podcast about IHOPKC that Cortland mentioned in the intro, it can be found HERE: https://frequencypodcastnetwork.com/podcasts/heaven-bent/
If...2023-11-071h 21
Thereafter088 - Meghan & Cortland | Deconstruction Events, Community Building, and Platform CultureNo guest this week. Cortland and Meghan sit down to chat in a shorter episode than usual. We cover all kinds of topics coming off a weekend of getting to hang out IRL. Get into it!
If you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at Hosts@ThereafterPod.com. Please let us know in the email if you would be ok with the message or voice note being featured on an episode.
If you enjoy listening to the show...2023-10-3141 minThereafter085 - Season 4 Premier! | Meghan & Cortland Chat About What's NextMeghan and Cortland chat about what we've been up to and what we have planned for season 4. We're so excited for the conversations we're going to be having and sharing with all of you this season!
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on T...2023-10-1048 minThereafterSummer Series Mini-sode Ep. 2Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we can manage during the busy summer! We hope this way we can stay connected with listeners even while on our break between seasons!
We’ll be back with full episodes including guest interview when we launch Season...2023-06-2251 minThereafter082 - Meghan & Cortland Talk Harm ReductionNo guest interview on today’s episode! Cortland and Meghan talk about harm reduction, shared ethics beyond deconstruction, and the contrast with some of the large conservative platforms that exist in harmful and toxic ways. A content warning on this episode as we discuss Steven Crowder and a recent abusive video that surfaced and other aspects of domestic abuse.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Patreon.com/ThereafterPod! Also, look fo...2023-05-041h 01
Thereafter081 - Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers & Chloë Abigail | Growing Up Sex Positive and Parenting Without ShameWe are so excited to share this episode with you! This week Cortland and Meghan sit down with Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers and Chloë Abigail. Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers is a best-selling author, speaker, and researcher on sexual shame and healing religious sexual trauma. She is professor emerita of sexuality, and Marriage & Family Therapy, and the Founder of the Northwest Institute on Intimacy and Inanna Rising. She is the author of: Sex, God, and the Conservative Church – Erasing Shame from Sexual Intimacy and Shameless Parenting – Everything You Need to Raise Shame-free, Confident Kids and Heal Your Shame Too!
2023-04-251h 36Thereafter080 - Community Chat | Hanging Out With Friends of the Pod!Hosts Cortland and Meghan spend today’s episode hanging out with folx from the Thereafter community. This was a spur of the moment episode celebrating what we love most about making this podcast - the people we get to interact with. The episode is a bit chaotic, but we hope you’ll have as much fun listening as we did making it. We also hope to do this again in the future!
Special thanks to the guests that jumped in to say hello. Please check them out and follow them on social media! Here is their info:
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Thereafter079 - Jenna DeWitt | Asexuality and a Liberative Theology That Includes EveryoneWe are so excited to have Jenna DeWitt as our guest today on the pod! Jenna DeWitt (she/her) is a writer, editor, and resource curator. She uses her powers as a sapphic aromantic asexual to advocate for queer belonging in the church and greater awareness of aromanticism and asexuality within affirming theology. Her website, InvisibleCakeSociety.com, provides resources, essays, poetry, and podcast interviews exploring the many facets of queerness, faith evolution, mental health, and more ways people can feel unseen. She lives in sunny Southern California and on Twitter at @Jenna_DeWitt (https://twitter.com/jenna_dewitt).
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Thereafter078 - Justin Gentry | Forced to Tithe and Other Tales of Leaving The MinistryOn today’s episode, Cortland and Meghan talk with Justin Gentry, former pastor and also co-host of two fabulous podcasts: REVcovery and Go Home Bible, You’re Drunk. Justin joins us for #twitbits and a larger conversation about ministry, forced tithing, and the exploitation of church staff and volunteers.
Check out Justin’s podcasts here:
REVcovery: https://www.irreverent.fm/show/revcovery/
Go Home Bible: https://www.irreverent.fm/show/go-home-bible-youre-drunk/
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you re...2023-03-281h 29
Thereafter077 - Looking Back — Meghan and Cortland Reminisce About The Pod, How We Got Here, & How We’re EvolvingQuick TW/CW up at the top! We do get into some conversation during the TwitBits portion at the beginning of the episode that could be triggering. We discuss sexual assault and rape in regards to the discourse around David and Bathsheba that has been happening on twitter once again. If you are not in a place to hear conversations on this topic this might be one you want to skip.
There is no guest on today’s episode. In addition to #TwitBits we spend the episode reminiscing about some of our favorite moments from the pod so...2023-03-141h 12
Thereafter076 - Camille Hernandez | Reclaiming Healing and LiberationWe are so very excited that today’s guest is Camille Hernandez! Camille is an abolitionist, community facilitator, and poet. In all her avenues, she uses care-centered leadership models to help survivors know their voice, be nourished in community, and develop self-compassion practices in order to birth new liberated realities into existence. Her debut book The Hero and the Whore: Reclaiming Healing and Liberation through Stories of Sexual Exploitation in the Bible will be released on November 7, 2023. Make sure to keep an eye out for that pre-order link soon!
Make sure to follow her at all the pl...2023-03-071h 26
Church Jams Now!Vol. 40 - Jars of Clay w/Cortland Coffey & Meghan Crozier of ThereafterThis week we’re joined by Cortland Coffey & Meghan Crozier from Thereafter Podcast to discuss Jars of Clay’s eponymous debut record. Cortland and Meghan go way back with Jars, and we couldn’t ask for better guests to sink into the flood of this record. We’ve got the most 90s drums, a Jars of Clay/Star Wars game, and the longest song we’ve encountered thus far on CJN. What else can we say except I once was blind, but now I see the art in me.Also, we got our first sponsor! Please visit https://co...2023-03-012h 54
Thereafter075 - Josephine Jael Jimenez | Speaking of Church - From The One She Was Born Into, to Where She is NowToday on the pod we sit down with the one and only Josephine Jael Jimenez or as you may know her from around the web @JosieTakesTheWorld. Josie is the host of the Speaking in Church Podcast along with being the a photographer, writer and numerous other amazing things! She is a dear friend of the show and we are so excited to have her on the pod today! Make sure you follow her over on instagram https://www.instagram.com/josietakestheworld/ and on Twitter https://twitter.com/josietakesthe as well as checking out all her work over on her...2023-02-281h 24
Thereafter074 - Jennifer C. Martin | Polyamory and The Many Ways We Can LoveToday's guest is the one and only Jennifer C. Martin, and we couldn't be more excited for her to be our Valentine's Day guest! She is a writer and editor living in Richmond, Virginia with her two partners, two children, and two pets. A former Pentecostal and current member of the United Church of Christ, she writes on religion, theology, sexuality, culture, entertainment, parenting, and polyamory. Her work has been featured in Insider, New York Times, Jezebel, Sojourners, Time magazine, and more. You can subscribe to her Substack, Dirtbag Christian, or check out jennifercmartin.com to catch up on...2023-02-141h 36
Thereafter073 - Marla Taviano | A White Girl Learning and Using Poetry to Process the ChangeToday we are honored to have Marla Taviano as our guest on the pod! Marla is into books, love, justice, globes, anti-racism, blue, gray, rainbows, and poems. She reads and writes for a living, wears her heart on her t-shirts, and is on a mission/quest/journey to live wholefarted (not a typo). She's the author of two books of unconventional poetry: unbelieve and jaded. She lives in South Carolina with her four freaking awesome kids. Find out more at marlataviano.com
Don't forget to follow Marla on IG at:
https://www.instagram.com/marlataviano/2023-02-071h 27
Thereafter072 - Kristina Hart | Comedy, Dating, Faith, Singleness, and Being Edgy on The InternetToday’s guest is Kristina Hart who is one of our favorite follows from around the web! Kristina is a writer, comedian, podcaster, and all around amazing human! On this episode Kristina brings her unique perspective as a Persian woman who grew up in Christianity, began her online career blogging about Christian singleness and has since seen her faith and perspective evolve. She consistently brings an insightful and comedic perspective on topics of faith, womanhood, dating, and more! We promise if you aren’t already in love with Kristina upon starting this episode you will be by the end!
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Thereafter071 - Shannon TL Kearns | On Queer Theology and an Expansive History of QueernessToday’s episode is one we’ve been excited to release for awhile. Cortland and Meghan chat with Shannon TL Kearns. A former fundamentalist who became the first openly transgender man ordained to the Old Catholic priesthood, Shannon TL Kearns believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. He is the co-founder of QueerTheology.com. His first book In the Margins: A Transgender Man’s Journey With Scripture just released from Eerdmaan’s books. He started and led Uprising Theatre...2023-01-171h 25
Thereafter070 - Emily Pfenning | Disability Justice, Intersectionality, and Curated AuthenticityOn this episode we chat with Emily Pfenning. Emily is an "almost" Oregon native originally adopted as a baby from India. She works in real estate as the director of operations for a small local team. Emily serves on her office's DEI committee, and several other committees and groups. Outside of the office, she enjoys reading constantly, teaching English through EngIN, leading book groups and workshops on current events and social issues like equity, disability justice, and global corruption as well as serving in local mutual aid efforts, and spending time with her pets and partner.
Emily...2023-01-121h 33
Thereafter069 - Extended TwitBits with Returning Guest Kevin Nye!In our first episode of the year we sat down (on New Years Eve) with friend of the show and returning guest, Kevin Nye! We discussed a semi viral tweet he had last week, the epic Greta Thunberg take down of Andrew Tate and more. We jump around quite a bit and have quite a bit of nuanced conversation. As always a reminder that much of what we talk about in these segments is us processing through our evolving thoughts on these topics as they happen in real time. We are constantly getting new information and evolving in the...2023-01-031h 05
Thereafter068 - Vy @WyldViolet | Purity Culture, Ethical Porn, & Finding Your True SelfThis week on the pod we sit down with Twitter friend and creator Vy (https://twitter.com/WyldViolet). We discuss a lot of different topics along Vy's journey from growing up in evangelical purity culture to finding herself as a lesbian and reclaiming her sexuality through her work as an Only Fans creator. It was such a treat to get time with her and we could have talked for so many more hours! Make sure you go follow her on all her socials and if it's something you're into subscribe to her OF page (currently running a great holiday...2022-12-131h 26
Thereafter067 - Paula Stone Williams | Womanhood, Gender Equity, and Evangelical ToxicityOn today’s episode, hosts Cortland and Meghan interview Paula Stone Williams. Paula is an internationally-known speaker on issues of gender equity, LGBTQ advocacy, and religious tolerance. She has been featured in TEDWomen, TEDSummit, the New York Times, Red Table Talk, TEDxMileHigh, the Washington Post, NPR, Good Morning America, CNN, ABC News, PBS, and scores of other media outlets.
Paula has been a keynote speaker for hundreds of corporations, conferences, and universities around the world. Her TED talks have had over seven million views. Paula’s memoir, As A Woman – What I Learned About Power, Sex, and the Patr...2022-11-291h 14
Thereafter066 - Robert Monson | A Black Theologian Disentangling Faith and Pursuing SoftnessThis week on the show we talk with writer, theologian, and podcaster Robert Monson (@robertjmonson on Twitter). We are thrilled to share this interview about theology, atheism, spirituality, race, progressivism, and more.
If you enjoy the show, please support Robert’s work! You can subscribe to his substack, join the Patreon for the Three Black Men podcast, and subscribe to both Three Black Men and Black Coffee and Theology Podcasts.
You can also support Robert by sending him money!
Ca$hApp: $RobertMonson
Venmo: Robert-Monson-2
A content warning for our lis...2022-11-221h 19
Thereafter065 - Heathen Queen | You Don’t Always Have To Be Nice to HealWe are so excited to be having Jess Heathen Queen on the pod this week. If you are not yet familiar with her work on YouTube, TikTok, Twitter and more where have you been? She is an absolute delight and one of our favorite follows from around the web. In this conversation we talk a bit about her story and the work she's been doing helping others to unlearn from their toxic pasts and explore the rich expanse of knowledge surrounding theology, religion, and the world that exists outside of her former evangelical bubble.
Don't forget to f...2022-11-151h 16
Thereafter064 - Tim Whitaker TheNewEvangelicals | Pushing Back and Pressing ForwardToday on the pod we sit down with Tim Whitaker from The New Evangelicals. Growing up, Tim always felt at home in evangelical spaces – until years later, when his studying and questions caused him to no longer be welcomed at in his church community. Brokenhearted, but undeterred, Tim continued to pursue a deeper understanding of faith, history, theology and the evangelical church. The more he uncovers, the more he realizes the importance of advocating for the marginalized in the church, exploring the full depth and breadth of Christian faith traditions, and holding toxic churches and leaders accountable.
Fi...2022-11-081h 28
Thereafter063 - Jo Luehmann & Rabbi Michael Harvey | Christian Supremacy, How it Shapes Us, & Why it MattersToday on the pod we have the honor of talking with not one but two amazing guests! Returning to the pod is the one and only Jo Luehmann along with the brilliant mind of Rabbi Mike Harvey!
Many of you probably already know Jo Luehmann (she/they), who is a Colombian born and raised writer, documentary producer, and podcaster who moved to the US to get her masters degree in ministry and theology. After 10 years working inside of churches, developing curriculum and teaching classes on theology and doctrine as an ordained pastor; and finding in personal and...2022-11-011h 42
Thereafter062 - Benjamin Faye | When Your Identity is an Intellectual Exercise, Everything's an ArgumentOn today’s episode we sit down with Benjamin Faye (@HeyThereBenji on IG). Ben has been a favorite follow of ours for a while and we are so excited to have him on the pod to talk about faith, race, and his experience in the American Evangelical Church.
Ben is a writer, speaker, advocate, #exvangelical, and spiritual abuse survivor who is creating content that uses his experience to comfort, challenge, and connect with others. He is the co-host along side @likeablemenace (on IG) of the podcast Important Things with Ben and Carole. https://www.instagram.com/importantthingsbc/?hl...2022-10-251h 49
Thereafter061 - Late Stage Gays | Navigating Life as Grown Up Baby QueersOn today's episode we talk about our experiences with coming out later in life and being newly out baby queers in the world.
If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Thereafter Patreon! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour!
Remember, PROMO Code for “Christian Nationalism and the Fut...2022-10-181h 03
Thereafter060 - Jon Carl Lewis | Sex & the Gay Christian on Sex PositivityThis week Cortland and Meghan sit down with Jon Carl Lewis, creator of Sex & the Gay Christian. Jon is a spiritual director that has created space as a gay Christian man for queer Christians that are seeking to live an integrated sexual and spirtiual life. Jon shares a bit of his history and upbringing, and then chats about sex positivity, “Biblical” sexual ethics, and how individuals discover their sexuality and spirituality. Please check out Jon’s website, and give him a follow @sexgaychristian on Twitter. Jon’s website offers information about spiritual direction, his book project, several LGBTQIA+ resources, and more...2022-10-111h 20
Thereafter059 - Chrissy Stroop | Pluralism and Letting Go of God Without Leaving the ConversationThis week we had the privilege of sitting down for a conversation with Chrissy Stroop. Chrissy is an important voice in the exvangelical and post-Christian conversation and brings so much to that conversation through her work as a scholar, researcher, author, and educator. She is a Senior correspondent for @RDispatches, columnist for @openDemocracy, as well as a speaker and writer for hire. She is the co-editor of Empty the Pews: Stories of Leaving the Church (available here: https://www.amazon.com/Empty-Pews-Stories-Leaving-Church/dp/1946093076).
You can follow her on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/C_Stroop
A...2022-10-041h 17
Thereafter058 - Damon Garcia | From “Deliverance” to Liberation and The God Who RiotsToday on the pod we sit down for a conversation with Damon Garcia to discuss his story of faith and his new book The God Who Riots: Taking Back the Radical Jesus (Broadleaf Books, 2022) (available now wherever you buy books). Damon Garcia (he/him) is a writer, video essayist, and public theologian. His work is centered around the intersection between liberation and faith. He lives in Santa Maria, California.
Follow Damon’s work on Twitter and Instagram @whoisdamon
https://twitter.com/whoisdamon
https://www.instagram.com/whoisdamon/
Visit his website at Da...2022-09-271h 37
Thereafter057 - Ashlee’ Thomas | On Intersectionality & Getting Comfortable with Being UncomfortableOn today's episode we sit down with friend of the show Ashlee' Thomas for a candid conversation about faith change, intersectionality, and being uncomfortable. Ashlee' was one of the folks we had the pleasure of learning from at our Portland meetup earlier this year and we couldn't wait to have her on the show! You can follow her on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/unashamedly_ashlee/
If you enjoyed today's conversation and want to throw a little something Ashlee's way as a thank you (or early wedding gift) you can send her any amount through Venmo...2022-09-201h 30
Thereafter056 - An Uncertain New Season — Our Relationship with Certainty & What’s to Come on Season 3No interview on the pod today. Instead Meghan and Cortland sit down to discuss their relationship with certainty and how it has evolved throughout their deconstruction processes so far.
There is a brief intro where we explain that we had originally recorded this as our Season Premier and instead opted to release it as episode two following our live from Wild Goose episode last week. In #TwitBits we talk about #StrikeOutHomophobia which is a walkout and rally being held across the US on Oct. 11th. You can find more info about this through this tweet: https://twitter.c...2022-09-131h 09
Thereafter055 - Live at Wild Goose with Josh Scott | Who Is Deconstructing For?We're back! Kicking off season 3 of Thereafter podcast with our LIVE episode recorded this summer at Wild Goose Fest. On this episode Meghan and Cortland have a conversation with return guest Josh Scott from Grace Pointe Church in Nashville, TN.
For our intro and #TwitBits section of the pod we ramble a bit about the recent Matt Chandler "scandal" and some of the discourse that has been happening online about The Billy Graham Rule and what is appropriate when it comes to DM's.
Meghan mentions a tweet/article from @LindsayFickas which can be found here: ht...2022-09-061h 21
Thereafter054 - Tori Williams Douglas Returns! | Women Are Crockpots, Your Body is a Sin Bucket, And Other Lies We Were ToldOn our season 2 finale of the pod we bring back one of our favorite guests from the season, Tori Williams Douglas! You may have listened to our conversation with Tori earlier in the season where we talked a bit about her story and the work she's doing through White Homework and Go Home Bible You're Drunk.
On this episode we're talking about solo-sex, pleasure, and orgasms! No intro for this episode, so get ready to jump right into our conversation.
If you didn't catch our conversation with Tori from earlier in the season, Tori is an...2022-06-141h 11
Thereafter053 - George Azar | About My Gay Church DaysToday we sit down with George Azar, author of "My Gay Church Days" (https://www.mygaychurchdays.com/). We talk about growing up, finding Jesus and later in the story finding himself. George was an absolute treat to talk with and we're so excited to share this conversation! In addition to the book George has been podcasting over at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-gay-church-days/id1596348244 so don't forget to go give him a follow over there as well!
We talk, in our intro, about our thoughts coming off of our PDX meetup where we got to h...2022-06-071h 27
Thereafter052 - Holly Laurent | Healing and Having the Mother F*ckin Guts To Feel ItThis week was extra special for us because we had the opportunity to sit down with one of the hosts of one of our favorite podcasts (Mega the Podcast)! We cover a TON of topics in this interview from Holly’s background growing up in evangelicalism to her work over the past 20+ years in the world of comedy! We enjoyed every moment of this interview and hope you do as well.
Holly Laurent is an LA based writer and performer. She is the creator and host of the hit podcast MEGA, and co-host and producer of It's a...2022-05-311h 43
Thereafter051 - Austin Jenkins | Deconstructing Hell Anxiety and Decolonizing Belief SystemsToday's episode we sit down with Austin Jenkins who we met through the thriving deconstruction community on Instagram. Austin is a poet, and podcaster who is processing through his faith deconstruction journey through his art and creativity over on instagram @theexistentialwandererpod as well as on his podcast The Existential Wanderer Podcast. We talk a little about his faith origin story and where he finds himself now, processing through his religious trauma and finding the authenticity to embrace now being agnostic. Austin is such a valuable part of this community and we're so grateful that he took some time to...2022-05-241h 31
ThereafterBONUS EPISODE — Deconstructing The Billy Graham Rule | Unlearning Normativity And Learning From Ethical Non-MonogamyThis week we have another BONUS EPISODE! There is no guest for this one and instead Meghan and Cortland spend the episode discussing navigating relationship through deconstruction. Many of us who have left the limiting scripts handed to us by our evangelical or religious upbringing are left to re-frame our understanding of relationships outside of our previously rigid and binary understanding.
We discuss the Billy Graham Rule which is the practice popularized by the late evangelist which said that married men should never be alone with any woman that wasn't their wife. This "rule" becomes a jumping o...2022-05-171h 21
Thereafter050 - Jarred Harris | Authenticity Through Pagan SpiritualityThis week we sit down with long time friend and fan of the show Jarred Harris! Jared is such a thoughtful person and we're so grateful for him taking the time to share some of his story and journey to finding fulfillment through witchcraft and pagan spirituality. Jarred is a content creator and you can find his content on Twitter (@JarredH), TikTok (jarredharris1), and YouTube.
You can find links to his content on all those platforms through his Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/jarredthewyrdworker
Quick TW/CW about our intro this morning. We discuss abortion and some topics that may b...2022-05-101h 40
Thereafter049 - Rohadi Nagassar | When We Belong - Reclaiming Christianity On The MarginsOn today's episode we sit down with Rohadi Nagassar to discuss his story, his work, and his upcoming book "When We Belong - Reclaiming Christianity on the Margins". Rohadi is a pastor building diverse organizations and communities around decolonizing and deconstructing Christianity. He lives in Canada on Treaty 7 Lands otherwise known as Calgary. Through his experience in the local church, a BA in Economics from the University of Calgary, and a Master in Divinity from Canadian Theological Seminary he brings a unique perspective that we are grateful to share with you on this episode!
You can follow Rohadi on Twitter a...2022-05-031h 33
Thereafter048 - Greg Mason | Rethinking Faith With An Expanding ImaginationToday on the pod we sit down with our twitter friend and fellow podcast host Greg Mason! Greg is a music teacher, theology nerd and host of The Decolonized Christian Podcast. You can check out his podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-decolonized-christian-podcast/id1555884063.
Also give Greg a follow on Twitter @LetGregLive_ and on Instagram @LetGregLive_
We have a special guest (our friend Jarred @JarredH) for our intro and #TwitBits segment today, but as always if you want to jump straight to the interview, you can jump to 26:50.
I...2022-04-261h 27
Thereafter047 - Matt @TheSnarkyGent | Growing Up Homeschooled in Purity CultureWe’re back for yet another episode! This week Cortland and Meghan interview Matt aka @thesnarkygent on Twitter. Matt is a cybersecurity student who grew up inside of Evangelicalism as a homeschooled kid brought up to “lead with biblical values” who has spent the past half-decade deconstructing a ton of the harmful ideas of his upbringing – including a LOT of purity culture and the pervasive sexual shame in Evangelical culture. Anyone who follows Matt on Twitter knows that he has a gift for identifying and unpacking the toxicity in evangelical messaging that is disguised as something positive. If you enjoy this int...2022-04-191h 13
Thereafter046 - Ashley Dunston | Growing Up In Toxicity, Healing From Abuse, and Finding One's True SelfThis week, Meghan and Cortland sit down with Ashley Dunston. Ashley is a novelist, playwright, aspiring cybersecurity professional, ex-vangelical, and proud auntie. This authentic conversation sheds light on the effects of harmful gender and body stereotypes, and the beauty of shedding toxicity and embracing your true self. Make sure you’re following Ashley on Twitter at @ashdunston and Instagram at @ashley_dunston_writer because you don’t want to miss her hot takes!
You can find links to her Patreon and other projects via her LinkTree at https://linktr.ee/AshleyDunston
We start with our usua...2022-04-121h 26
Thereafter045 - Matthew Paul Turner | The God We Give Kids Shouldn’t Have To Be Recovered FromOn today’s episode, Meghan and Cortland chat with New York Times Bestselling Children’s book author Matthew Paul Turner. In this interview Matthew shares his story of growing up in fundamentalism, discovering Sandi Patty, and starting down the slippery slope of Contemporary Christian Music. Matthew spent years working as a writer in the CCM world as well as writing several Christian books. As his faith expanded he began pushing back against the fundamentalism he grew up in advocating for a more inclusive faith. After finding an audience among the progressive faith community Matthew began writing Children’s books. We know o...2022-04-051h 26
Thereafter044 - Tori Williams Douglass | My Values Never Changed - I Never Fit Their White Man MoldToday on the pod we sit down with Tori Williams Douglass. Tori is an anti-racist writer, educator, and podcaster in addition to being one of our favorite follows on Twitter! You may know her as Tori Glass which is her handle on Twitter @ToriGlass and Instagram @ToriGlass.
She hosts the podcasts Go Home Bible, You’re Drunk and White Homework. Tori has created a ton of free anti-racist resources as well as some incredible paid curriculum which you can find over at Tori’s website ToriGlass.com. Please consider supporting the important work she is doing through her P...2022-03-291h 46
Thereafter043 - Daniel Deitrich | Songs That Challenge a Church That’s Traded Love for PowerMeghan and Cortland are excited to share this interview with Daniel Deitrich. It’s been in the queue awhile but we know you’ll find it worth the wait!
Daniel Deitrich is a singer/songwriter based in South Bend, Indiana. After the 2020 election, Daniel released his song, Hymn for the 81% which quickly gained traction online as it resonated with many that were questioning why so many white evangelicals voted for Trump. Check out the song on YouTube. You can find all of Daniel’s projects on iTunes, Spotify, or wherever digital music is streamed or sold. You can su...2022-03-221h 55
Thereafter042 - Jamie Keaton | You Don’t Have to Be Nice, Sink the F*cking ShipOn today's episode we sit down with Jamie Keaton. Jamie's experience as a Black and non-binary actor, singer, musician, and spoken word poet has been defined by a passion for intersectional feminism, social justice, and advocacy. Jamie asked for us to include these words from Tupac Shakur which are meaningful to Jamie and represent their passion for raising their voice on these topics that are so vitally important.
My momma used to say if you can’t find something to live for you’d best find something to die for. - Tupac Shakur
In this inter...2022-03-151h 26
Thereafter041 - Janice Lagata | Reactions of Whiteness - We’ve Come Out of These Spaces But We Haven’t Gotten These Spaces Out of Us YetIn today’s episode, Janice Lagata becomes the first guest to return to the Thereafter Podcast to talk with Cortland and Meghan about celebrity culture and the perpetuation of whiteness in deconstruction spaces. This is an important conversation and recognition that addressing power, privilege, and inequity isn’t something limited to one or two people in these spaces, but is something we all need to examine in order to understand our part in either upholding white supremacy or working to tear it down.
The introduction to the episode is only a few minutes to provide brief context for the conversation and...2022-03-081h 02
Thereafter040 - Scott Okamoto | Chapel Probation: Stories From a Former Professor at a Private Christian UniversityToday’s episode features guest Scott Okamoto, former professor at Azusa Pacific University who is currently writing a memoir and hosting a podcast that unpacks his experience as a faculty member at APU. Scott talks about his experience facilitating affinity groups, anti-racism on campus, the treatment of the LGBTQ community, and more. We hope our listeners will check out Scott’s website, and you can find him on Twitter and Instagram at @rsokamoto. Definitely stop whatever you’re doing now and subscribe to Scott’s podcast, Chapel Probation, wherever you listen to podcasts.
If you want to skip #tw...2022-03-011h 30
Thereafter039 - Erin Green | Standing With LGBTQ Students on Christian CampusesToday Cortland and Meghan sit down with Erin Green. Erin (She/They) is the Campus and Alumni Organizer for REAP. They are an affirming biblical scholar and LGBTQ+ activist. Erin has a Bachelor of Arts in Biblical Studies from Azusa Pacific University and an M.Div. from San Francisco Theological Seminary. Their specialties are in the entire Christian biblical corpus with an emphasis on the Hebrew Bible, the ancient Near East, exegesis, and how to employ various hermeneutical methods. Erin's passion is helping those excluded by the church to heal from spiritual abuse and trauma by navigating the biblical...2022-02-221h 28
Thereafter038 - Daniel Lavery | Something That May Shock and Discredit YouOn today's episode Meghan and Cortland sit down with Daniel M. Lavery on today’s episode of the podcast. Daniel Lavery is the author of Something That May Shock and Discredit You, The Merry Spinster, and Texts From Jane Eyre. He is the co-founder of The Toast and the proprietor of the Chatner newsletter; formerly the Dear Prudence advice columnist at Slate. Daniel talks about his experience growing up in an evangelical mega church, attending a Christian college, understanding his own sexuality, and his gender transition. We hope you go get a copy of Daniel’s latest book, Something That...2022-02-151h 36
ThereafterBONUS EPISODE | EXTENDED-CUT #TwitBits ON PURITY CULTURE AND SEXUAL ETHICSOn this BONUS episode, Cortland and Meghan talk through recent conversations about the new version of purity culture, sexual ethics, queer affirmation, and sex positivity. This unique episode doesn’t have a guest interview, but gives our listeners a window into the way we navigate dialogue about ethics and values on the other side of faith change. We know that we are always learning, and we want to point to the voices that we have learned so much from in this space. Please check out these creators and support their work. Also know that this is not an exhaustive li...2022-02-1056 min
Thereafter037 - Naked Pastor | Drawing Graffiti on the Walls of Religion Since 2005In today’s episode, Cortland and Meghan talk to artist David Hayward known across the web as "Naked Pastor". After 30 years in the church, he left the ministry to pursue his passion for art. NakedPastor uses words and images to challenge the status quo, deconstruct dogma, and offer hope for those who struggle and suffer under it.
David is no stranger to belief systems - he holds a Masters in Theological Studies, as well as Diplomas in Religious Studies and Ministry, and University Teaching. His art expresses the stories and struggles of spiritual refugees and independent thinkers wh...2022-02-081h 13
Thereafter036 - Kevin Nye | Grace, Homelessness, and Finding Divinity in the MarginsIn today’s episode, Cortland and Meghan talk with author Kevin Nye. Kevin works in homeless services and is releasing a book on homelessness and grace in August, 2022. He sits down with us to tell his story, talk about his work, and give us his perspective on the intersection of faith and justice. You can check out Kevin’s website, sign up for his newsletter, and follow him on Twitter for updates on how to pre-order his book.
Also mentioned in the intro to the episode is this Twitter thread on pre-order book suggestions.
If you w...2022-02-011h 32
Thereafter035 - Isaiah Tobias Crum, M.D. | Psychiatry, Mental Health, and Understanding The BrainIsaiah Tobias Crum, M.D. is a PGY-1 Psychiatry Resident and host of The Melanated Mindset Podcast (@_MelanatedMind). Isaiah grew up in the church and was the definition of deeply involved. After spending years as a volunteer youth minister and originally pursuing a career in emergency medicine he switched fields of study to psychiatry.
In this episode we talk with Isaiah about his field of study and how it has affected his faith evolution. We know that you'll enjoy this conversation and want to hear more from Isaiah when it's done! You can find all his podcast episodes at https://w...2022-01-251h 39
Thereafter034 - Annie Rice | Local Politics and The Fight for Reproductive RightsToday’s episode features an interview with Annie Rice, an immigration lawyer and alderwoman in St. Louis, MO. Annie joins us to talk about her deconstruction journey and how her desire to get involved in justice led her to the work she does now. Annie also gives us her perspective on abortion legislation that is being passed nationwide, how this legislation impacts what happens in states on a local level, and the historical roots behind the abortion debate. You don’t want to miss Annie bringing her wisdom and insight into faith, deconstruction, and politics.
If you want...2022-01-181h 33
Thereafter033 - Bradley Onishi | Straight White American Jesus - White Christian Nationalism Can’t Be IgnoredToday Cortland and Meghan interview Bradley Onishi, co-host of the podcast Straight White American Jesus and professor of Religious Studies at Skidmore College. A TEDx speaker, he has written for the New York Times, Huffpost, Religion & Politics, The LA Review of Books, The Conversation US, Rewire.News, among other outlets. He has appeared on NPR-affiliate programs and nationally ranked podcasts. Bradley joins us to talk about his own deconstruction journey, the work he’s doing connected with his podcast, and the topic of his next book, white Christian nationalism. We know our listeners will love hearing Bradley’s perspective on t...2022-01-111h 27
Thereafter032 - Brian G. Murphy of QueerTheology.com | Finding The Divine in Queerness and PolyamoryBrian G. Murphy joins Cortland and Meghan for today’s episode of the Thereafter Podcast. Brian is co-host of the Queer Theology Bible Podcast and also the co-founder of queertheology.com. As Brian talks about in this episode, the work of queertheology.com goes beyond defending the right to be gay and Christian, and creates a comprehensive resource that celebrates the divine intersectionality of queer Christianity. Brian joins us to share their story, talk about their work, and join the conversation about current events in the Christian queer community. We are releasing this interview out of order to share ou...2022-01-041h 34
Thereafter031 - Josh Scott | My Hermeneutic is Human FlourishingThis week we interview Josh Scott, progressive Christian pastor of Grace Pointe Church in Nashville, TN. Josh talks about how his life as a pastor parallelled his deconstruction, and how ultimately his shifting views brought him to Grace Pointe, a church that is fully LGBTQ affirming and holds space for all travelers no matter where their journey leads them. Josh talks about what church looks like on the other side of evangelicalism, and what being a pastor means to him. We hope you appreciate hearing what Josh has to say, and also that you’ll check him out on Tw...2021-12-281h 28
Thereafter030 - Carina Davis | Deconstruction, Decolonization, and Building CommunityToday we interview Carina from @deconstructingblack and @deconstructingcolors. Carina shares her journey, what led her into faith deconstruction, and the ways in which evangelicalism is intertwined with white supremacy and colonization. Not only does Carina bring her rich wisdom and perspective into this conversation, but she also shares her vision for bringing people together and building community through @deconstructingcolors which is becoming a non-profit! Please follow Carina’s accounts on Instagram and consider supporting her work through CashApp.
If you want to skip straight to the interview you can jump to 22:18.
We love to hear fr...2021-12-211h 40
Thereafter029 - Tyler Krumland | A Journey Toward God, Truth, and Self-AcceptanceToday we sit down with Tyler Krumland for his podcast debut! We are excited to have Tyler share his story with you. Tyler talks about his experience growing up in the evangelical church, living in a conservative Christian world, and attending North Park Theological Seminary while being gay and closeted. The story of Tyler’s struggle to follow the evangelical “rules” prescribed for him while trying to stay true to himself gives listeners an authentic window into what it looks like to try all means possible to eradicate your own true self in an effort to continue belonging with your f...2021-12-141h 51
Thereafter028 - Jo Luehmann | Deconstructing EverythingToday we get the privilege of sitting down and having a conversation with the one and only Jo Luehmann! Of course we have our normal TwitBits conversation at the beginning of the episode where we talk about the latest buzz on Twitter.
If you'd like to skip straight to the interview feel free to skip ahead to 32:00.
Jo Luehmann (she/her) is a Colombian born and raised pastor, speaker, educator and writer who moved to the US to get her masters degree in ministry and theology. After 10 years working inside of churches, developing curriculum and te...2021-12-071h 34
Thereafter027 - Jon Steingard | Pursuing Presence In DeconstructionIn this episode we sit down with Jon Steingard. Jon was previously the lead singer of a Christian band called Hawk Nelson, and talks about his experience having his faith identity tied to his career. A little over a year ago, Jon made an Instagram post stating that he no longer believed in God, and saw the reaction on social media from all sides. We talk with Jon about his faith deconstruction, what he believes now, and how his journey is going.
Skip to 30:16 if you want to get straight into our interview with Jon!
...2021-11-301h 49
Thereafter026 - Judy Peterson | Season 2 Premier with The Walking PastorWelcome back to the Thereafter Podcast! We are so excited to launch Season 2 and also to introduce Meghan Crozier ( @thepursuinglife on Twitter and Instagram) as the new co-host with Cortland Coffey.
We take some time at the front of the show to hang out a bit and intro a new segment TwitBits (a working title) that we'll be doing each week here on the show! If you'd rather skip straight to our interview, feel free to skip ahead to the 28 minute mark.
On this Season 2 debut, we had the honor of sitting down with Pastor J...2021-11-231h 36
Thereafter025 - It is Finished | Season 1 FinaleIn our WAY LATE finale episode for season 1 of Thereafter Podcast Cortland and Josh sit down to talk about some of our favorite takeaways from season 1. We also make an announcement about how we are changing up the host lineup for season 2. More announcements about what season 2 will be like coming soon!
At one point we mention a "Rich Giles" and second guess if we were getting his name right. Spoiler alert: we weren't! We were actually talking about Keith Giles (one of the hosts of Heretic Happy Hour podcast. You can check out Heretic Happy Hour...2021-09-071h 02
Thereafter024 - Keylee & Micah Sudduth are BackslidersToday on the pod we sit down with Keylee and Micah Sudduth from Bob Billiams Productions. They are the creative minds behind the Tribeca Film Festival Official Selection digital Series Backsliders as well as the hosts of the Backsliders podcast.
Check out all their projects HERE:
BobBilliamsProductions.com2021-08-101h 27
Thereafter023 - Skylar Camp | Letting Yourself Land... Leaving The Faith & Finding YourselfIf you haven't yet had the pleasure of finding the work of Skylar Camp you have been missing out! Skylar has been one of the best parts of my IG feed for a little over a year. Her honest perspective on her post faith journey has been beyond refreshing and healing for me to witness. On today's episode she walks us through her story of finding herself in her most authentic form. From a child of purity culture married before college, to embracing her polyamorist and bisexual identity. Come along for this beautiful story as we all get reminded...2021-07-2058 min
Thereafter022 - Luke Willson | Gay On Campus at Liberty UniversityToday we get to share an incredible conversation we had with Luke Wilson.
Luke is one of the leading voices talking about the discrimination of LGBTQ+ students and private religious universities. He is a part of a class action known as The REAP (https://www.thereap.org/) which is looking to end the mistreatment of LGBTQ+ students at schools who receive federal tax payer funding.
Luke holds a BA in English, summa cum laude, from Liberty University, an MA in English from McMaster University, and an MTS from Vanderbilt University. He is a PhD Candidate in...2021-07-061h 18
Thereafter021 - Elad Nehorai | Rethinking Judaism Through the Perspective of a CreativeThis week we sit down with Elad Nehorai. Elad has spent most of his adult life creating and nurturing communities. From the time he started a small online arts magazine (before such a thing was common) in college, to his efforts as an online marketer for startups, to his viral campaign "I Have A Therapist," to his work with Hevria, a community for creative Jews, and Torah Trumps Hate, a community for progressive orthodox Jews, he cares about nothing more than connecting people who are desperately looking for a community that doesn't exist in the physical world.
A...2021-06-221h 26
Thereafter020 - Peter Fenton | Abandon All HopeWe are so excited to be sharing this episode with Peter Fenton! Peter Fenton’s work has appeared in or is forthcoming from Dadley Productions, Heuer Publishing, OurBible App, and Q Christian Fellowship among others. Peter is an adventurous multi-genre author and screenwriter drawn to creating clever and self-aware works stimulating critical thought and laughter. He wrote and produced the profitable world premiere of his holiday satire SEE AMID THE WINTER SNOW (2019), as well as his dark spiritual comedy, ABANDON ALL HOPE (2020), a co-production with BraveMaker Media. Peter served as the President and Director of Jukebox Theatre at Wheaton College an...2021-06-131h 21
Thereafter019 - Abby Norman | You Can Talk To God Like ThatToday we are SO excited to share our conversation with Abby Norman. We sat down with Abby to talk about her journey of faith and her new book You Can Talk To God Like That. We enjoyed every minute of this interview. Prepare to fall in love with Abby and her incredibly authentic approach to faith and life!
Abby is a writer, blogger, speaker, and licensed local pastor in the United Methodist Church. Her writing has been featured in Huffington Post, SheLoves Magazine, and The Mudroom. Abby lives in Atlanta, Georgia with her college sweetheart, two daughters...2021-05-251h 10
Thereafter018 - Winston Bolen | The Bible Belt Transformer, From Conservative Whiz Kid to Progressive ActivistBorn and raised in rural south Georgia, Winston Bolen grew up expecting to be a Southern Baptist preacher or conservative politician but over time things changed. Leaving the church in the late 90s, his former views were blown away by the myriad variety of fellow geeks and weirdos that brought different life perspectives to his online fandoms. The internet allowed him access to a world outside his humble upbringings, helping shape this bi, poly, atheist into a crusader for all things progressive. With the same fire and brimstone drawl of a southern preacher, he has found himself back where h...2021-05-111h 43
Thereafter017 - Meghan Crozier | Authentic Conversations on Faith Through ThePursuingLifeToday we sit down with Meghan Crozier to talk a little bit about her deconstruction journey. Meghan is a writer and teacher who began writing on her website ThePursuingLife.com before even finding the deconstruction community. As a progressive Christian writer, she started her page as a way to seek spiritual growth, but realized that she often had more questions about faith than answers. Meghan's pages (across the web) have now become places to wrestle with those questions, try to understand what spiritual growth looks like, and welcome others in every stage of their journey. Through her work and...2021-04-271h 12
Thereafter016 - Dr. Katie Blake, PhD | Support Through Integrated Psychology & Experiential PracticesToday we have an AMAZING episode for you! We sat down with the one and only Dr. Katie Blake, and WOW what an incredible conversation. Katie has a Ph.D. in Social Psychology and is also a 500-hour Masters-level yoga instructor. With 13 years of experience in teaching psychology and yoga she brings a depth of experience to the online community she's supporting and educating. Visit her website at DrKatieBlake.com to find out more about her work.
Don't forget to follow her on Instagram @DrKatieBlake
And on Twitter @DrKatieBlake
Things mentioned on the e...2021-04-131h 10
Thereafter015 - DRCK Bad Apple Fam | The Community We’re FindingToday is a super special episode for me (Cortland) personally! If you've listened to most of our episodes you know we've talked about the Dirty Rotten Church Kids podcast on many occasions. Beyond producing an amazing podcast DRCK has created a pretty incredible online community for those who are going through all kinds of faith change.
Today we're sharing a few conversations with people I've met through that community. In our first episode Josh and I talked about how scary it can be to feel like you are going through these changes alone. The good news is y...2021-03-301h 52
Thereafter014 - Levi Rogers | Utah, Coffee, and other RuminationsThis week on the pod we got to sit down with Levi Rogers, who is an old and dear friend of ours! Levi has an MFA from Antioch University Los Angeles and a Bachelors of English from the University of Utah. In July of 2018 Rogers attended The Tin House Summer Workshop and is currently working with the new broadside literary journal Meow Meow Pow Pow as a blog editor. He’s published essays, poetry, and reviews in Entropy, Sojourners, Lunch Ticket, Drunk Monkeys, Akashic Books, Hoot, Daily Coffee News, and Devour Magazine, amongst others. He owns and runs a co...2021-03-161h 42
Thereafter013 - Will @Heretical_Theology | From Christian to AtheistToday, on the show, we sit down with Will Thorpe. Will runs the instagram account @Heretical_Theology. After finding God at an early age, Will spent much of his adult life striving to serve that God with his whole heart. Through his pursuit of a deeper understanding of his faith, he found himself coming to conclusions that simply didn't line up with the story the church had handed him. Now, a self identified Humanist, Heretic, Apostate, and Atheist... Will shares what he is learning with his community of over 13K followers on Instagram. Will's ability to engage in conversations with...2021-03-021h 27
Thereafter012 - Blair @TalkPurityToMe | On The Other Side Of Purity CultureToday we sit down with Blair who runs the @TalkPurityToMe Instagram account! Blair is a former evangelical and Purity Culture survivor living in the south. She uses her experiences to help people of all faiths and beliefs find healing from the trauma of Purity Culture by debunking the culture’s bullshit. She finds joy in helping others see the good in themselves and others and to live a life free from religious shame.
We are so grateful for the amazing work that Blair has been doing on instagram. Go give her a follow @TalkPurityToMe and hit the link in her bi...2021-02-231h 07
Thereafter011 - Rebekah Sorkin | Healing From Religious TraumaToday on Thereafter we sit down with Rebekah Sorkin. Rebekah is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and psychotherapist with a Bachelor's Degree in Social Work from Winthrop University and a MA in Social Work with certificates in At-Risk Youth and Trauma Studies from University of Denver. Over the past ten years her work with children, teens, adults, and families has given her unique insights on the effects of trauma on our minds and bodies.
So many of us who have gone through a journey of faith change weren't taught to identify trauma that may have occurred in o...2021-02-091h 03
Thereafter010 - Jonathan Merritt | On Speaking God From ScratchJonathan Merritt is one of America’s most trusted and popular writers on religion, culture, and politics. He is an award-winning contributor for The Atlantic, a contributing editor for The Week, and is author of several critically-acclaimed books including Learning to Speak God from Scratch: Why Sacred Words are Vanishing - and How We Can Revive Them.
Jonathan has published more than 3500 articles in respected outlets such as The New York Times, USA Today, Buzzfeed, The Washington Post and Christianity Today. As a respected voice, he regularly contributes commentary to television, print, and radio news outlets and has been interviewed by ABC...2021-02-021h 25
Thereafter009 - Mason Mennenga | Theology That LiberatesToday on Thereafter we sit down with Mason Mennenga. Mason (he/him/his) is an aspiring theologian, podcaster, YouTuber, and the Internet’s youth pastor.
He enjoys conversation over a drink, being a music snob, stand-up comedy, and long walks on the valley of the shadow of death.
He is the podcast host of A People’s Theology. With inspiration from process theology, radical theology, liberation theology, and many more, Mason hopes to explore and share in A People’s Theology the inspiring and liberating theologies that transforms you and the world.
He is also...2021-01-191h 12
Thereafter008 - PodGoesPunk | Emo, Screamo & Other Church Kid NostalgiaThis week we have a fun one! This episode is a bit of a shift from the more serious conversations we've had so far on the podcast. We sat down with 2 of the hosts from the podcast Pod Goes Punk and had a blast chatting about music, church kid shit, and everything in between! Jesse and Jordan Chesley have been friends of mine since we were kids. We met going to hard core, emo, and punk shows together and more often than not these shows took place in church basements, cafe's, or fellowship halls! They now have a HUGE...2021-01-121h 17
Thereafter007 - Michael Robison | Forget the ScriptMichael Robison is a former Senior Pastor and Faith Leader. He is also a veteran strategic consultant and brand development innovator with a diverse background in finance, sales, development, marketing, communications and staffing. He was recently named one the Top Leaders of 2020 by Yahoo! Finance.
Michael has a unique journey of faith and life. He spent nearly 20 years married to his wife Allison, and created a big, beautiful family. They built their family through adoption and adventures. But, internally, Michael was wrestling with his truth. What Truth? That he is Gay. He built a life trying his best to confirm t...2021-01-051h 29
Thereafter006 - Kevin Garcia | But What If You’re RightToday on the pod, we get into a beautiful conversation with the one and only Kevin Miguel Garcia! Kevin is a digital pastor, creative healer, public theologian, & intuitive soul coach. Kevin has been a transformative force in my spiritual reconstruction and may be one of the most genuine and sincere people I've ever met. Our time with them was inspirational and transformative. The work they are doing is so truly important and timely. If you want to know more about Kevin you can get connected with them at TheKevinGarcia.com
Follow Kevin on Instagram @TheKevinGarcia
...2020-12-151h 19
Thereafter005 - Janice Lagata | God Has Not GivenThis week we're honored to have Janice Lagata on the podcast! We were lucky enough to stumble upon her blog a few weeks ago and quickly fell in love with her work. Janice is a musician, poet, writer, and podcaster. Her latest project is the podcast "God Has Not Given" An Exvangelical podcast featuring Janice and her failing faith in conversations with her friends and family. After binging every episode of her podcast we knew we wanted to have Janice on the show. We thoroughly enjoyed this conversation and are so excited to share it with you. You can...2020-12-081h 23
Thereafter004 - Calvin Arsenia | Sincerity WinsThis week on the podcast we sit down with the one and only Calvin Arsenia! Calvin is an incredible artist and performer from Kansas City. Voted best musician in 2018 and 2019 by PitchKC, Calvin’s work has been featured on websites like the NewNowNext, Pride.com, Grammy.com, NPR.org to name a few.
In addition to being one of the most successful artists to come out of Kansas City in recent years he also happens to be an old church friend of mine! We sat down to talk about his experience navigating the church, faith, and life th...2020-12-0156 min
Thereafter003 - Micah J Murray | The Slippery Slope To AuthenticityThis week we’re beyond thrilled to be sitting down with Micah J Murray! His instagram bio reads: post-theist theology and blasphemous hallelujahs. Deconstruction coach for pilgrims and heretics. Scroll down and you’ll find meticulously marked up excerpts from books and hand written prose sprinkled among his numerous photos of his gorgeous physique. (These being one of the main reasons I follow @MicahJMurray on instagram.)
In addition to spreading beautiful words and #ThristTrap photos on instagram, Micah also creates a wonderful podcast called Existential Happy Hour. So without further delay let's get into this wonderful conversation with...2020-11-171h 35
Thereafter002 - Jeff Goins | How Far Are You Going to Take This?In this weeks episode, we have the privilege of sitting down with writer, speaker, and best-selling author Jeff Goins. Jeff is a brilliant creative and one of the most curious people I know. We talk about spiritual awakening, pondering the mysteries of the universe, and the challenge of finding yourself in the process. You can connect with Jeff on Instagram @JeffGoins or through his website GoinsWriter.com
As always, if you enjoyed this episode help us reach more people by subscribing to the podcast and rating and reviewing the show on Apple Podcasts.2020-11-101h 01Thereafter001 - From Worry to Wonder | Navigating Changing BeliefsIn our inaugural episode we (Cortland and Josh) discuss why we're starting the Thereafter Podcast. We talk about the fear that often comes along with changing your beliefs. Evolving beliefs about the world can be scary and difficult, especially if you are feeling alone in the change. Throughout the coming episodes we'll introduce you to some amazing guests who are navigating the world of evolving faith. We're excited to share some amazing people with you and look forward to getting to know you along the way. If you'd like to join us for this adventure, don't forget to subscribe...2020-11-0347 min