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Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#366: The Truth About The Gospel Industry That Is Actually True with Rick Robinson
On July 25, 2025 Isaac Caree released a podcast interview with Norman Gyamfi. Norman is a music industry executive and part owner of Maverick City Music. Suffice it to say, this conversation created a firestorm of controversy and conversation around Gospel Music, CCM, and the racial tension embedded within the music industry. We know these things are going on, but for maybe the first time – a business executive let it ALL out.
Being that Beyond Sunday is a podcast about worship and the church, I wanted to talk about it so I decided to invite Rick Robinson, a Gospel Mu...
2025-08-071h 28
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastThe Truth About The Gospel Industry That Is Actually True with Rick RobinsonOn July 25, 2025 Isaac Caree released a podcast interview with Norman Gyamfi. Norman is a music industry executive and part owner of Maverick City Music. Suffice it to say, this conversation created a firestorm of controversy and conversation around Gospel Music, CCM, and the racial tension embedded within the music industry. We know these things are going on, but for maybe the first time - a business executive let it ALL out. Being that Beyond Sunday is a podcast about worship and the church, I wanted to talk about it so I decided to invite Rick Robinson, a...
2025-08-071h 28Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#362: Is Racial Reconciliation and a Healthy Multicultural Church Possible? An interview with Latasha Morrison
One my favorite books this year was Be The Bridge: Pursuing God’s Heart for Racial Reconciliation by Latasha Morrison. A wonderful book that is challenging but also compassionate and full of grace.
We’ve waded into conversations like this recently with Nikki Lerner, Darwin Hobbs, and David Gate.
Why are we doing this? Because I truly believe it matters. It matters for our souls, our relationships, our churches, and our nation. We can bury our heads in the sand and pretend like it’s not an issue or we can move closer to one anothe...
2025-06-261h 16
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastIs Racial Reconciliation and a Healthy Multicultural Church Possible? An interview with Latasha MorrisonOne my favorite books this year was Be The Bridge: Pursuing God’s Heart for Racial Reconciliation by Latasha Morrison. A wonderful book that is challenging but also compassionate and full of grace. We’ve waded into conversations like this recently with Nikki Lerner, Darwin Hobbs, and David Gate. Why are we doing this? Because I truly believe it matters. It matters for our souls, our relationships, our churches, and our nation. We can bury our heads in the sand and pretend like it’s not an issue or we can move closer to one anothe...
2025-06-261h 16Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#360: The Church, Culture, & How Jesus Changes Everything with Stanley Hauerwas
Today’s conversation is a bit of a departure from our usual worship leader/worship industry conversation. I’m talking with Stanley Hauerwas.
Here’s his bio:
Stanley Hauerwas, a theologian and Christian ethicist, is professor emeritus of theological ethics and of law at Duke University. He is the author or editor of more than fifty books, including Resident Aliens: Life in the Christian Colony (1989), which he co-authored with William H. Willimon. His lower-middle-class upbringing informed his later approach to theological and ethical questions (at one point, he was apprenticed to his father, a bricklayer). In 2001...
2025-06-1231 min
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastThe Church, Culture, & How Jesus Changes Everything with Stanley HauerwasToday’s conversation is a bit of a departure from our usual worship leader/worship industry conversation. I’m talking with Stanley Hauerwas. Here’s his bio: Stanley Hauerwas, a theologian and Christian ethicist, is professor emeritus of theological ethics and of law at Duke University. He is the author or editor of more than fifty books, including Resident Aliens: Life in the Christian Colony (1989), which he co-authored with William H. Willimon. His lower-middle-class upbringing informed his later approach to theological and ethical questions (at one point, he was apprenticed to his father, a bricklayer). In 2001...
2025-06-1231 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#358: Two White Guys Talking About The Black Church, Black Music, & Black Liberation (An Interview with David Gate)
Today’s topic and subject matter is a tough one. I’m talking with my friend David Gate. David is a writer and poet. He has a new book releasing in 2025 called A Rebellion of Care. But David also has a long history as a worship leader, songwriter, and artist.
David wrote an article recently in response to the new Ryan Coogler move Sinners, starring Michael B Jordan. The title of that article was “How White Charismatic Worship Stole from the Black Church: The Vampires who steal stories and songs and culture.” I know. It’s a bold, ofte...
2025-05-2857 min
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastTwo White Guys Talking About The Black Church, Black Music, & Black Liberation (An Interview with David Gate)Today’s topic and subject matter is a tough one. I’m talking with my friend David Gate. David is a writer and poet. He has a new book releasing in 2025 called A Rebellion of Care. But David also has a long history as a worship leader, songwriter, and artist. David wrote an article recently in response to the new Ryan Coogler move Sinners, starring Michael B Jordan. The title of that article was “How White Charismatic Worship Stole from the Black Church: The Vampires who steal stories and songs and culture.” I know. It’s a bold, ofte...
2025-05-2857 min
Churchfront Worship and Tech PodcastWhy Modern Worship Feels Stale (And How to Fix It) David Santistevan - Churchfront PodcastPodcast Notes: The Future of Worship Leading with David Santistevan Episode Overview In this episode of the Church Front Worship and Tech Podcast, Luke Jackson interviews David Santistevan, a seasoned worship pastor, podcast host, and ministry coach. David shares insights from his 25 years in worship ministry, including his experience as a local church worship pastor, his five years traveling the country in an RV, and his current work helping churches develop healthy worship cultures. Time Stamps & Key Points Introduction [00:00] David opens with reflections on the current state of worship ministry Concerns about worship becoming too automated and standardized...
2025-04-1752 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#348: David Leonard on Creating in Community, Corporate Worship, & The Challenges of Being an Artist
Topics Covered:
The story behind David’s new studio
The importance of creating in community
The challenges of being a Christian artist in 2025
What is exciting about worship music today
Challenges with worship music today
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Just Jesus by David Leonard
David Leonard
Gruhn Guitars
Deliver Me From Nowhere: The Making of Bruce Springsteen’s Nebraska by Warren Zanes
Show Sponsor:
My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s als...
2025-03-1047 min
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastDavid Leonard on Creating in Community, Corporate Worship, & the Challenges of Being an ArtistTopics Covered: The story behind David's new studio The importance of creating in community The challenges of being a Christian artist in 2025 What is exciting about worship music today Challenges with worship music today Resources Mentioned: Show Sponsor: Planning Center Just Jesus by David Leonard David Leonard Gruhn Guitars Deliver Me From Nowhere: The Making of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska by Warren Zanes Show Sponsor: My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also w...
2025-03-1047 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#331: Bob Kauflin on Theology for Worship Teams, Production Decisions, & Top Worship Leader Competencies
Topics Covered:
How our union with Christ affects Sunday worship
The rise of liturgy and what it means for churches
Reflections on writing Worship Matters (16 years ago!)
Creating a technical grid for our Sunday production
Top competencies/qualities of an effective Worship Pastor
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Beyond Sunday Backstage
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Knowing God by Sovereign Grace Music
Knowing God by J.I. Packer
Engaging With God: A Biblical Theology of Worship by David Peterson
Worship: Adoration & Action by DA Carson
Music Through the Eyes of Faith by Harold Best
Show Sponsor #1: Beyond...
2024-09-1257 min
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#331: Bob Kauflin on Theology for Worship Teams, Production Decisions, & Top Worship Leader Competencies Topics Covered: How our union with Christ affects Sunday worship The rise of liturgy and what it means for churches Reflections on writing Worship Matters (16 years ago!) Creating a technical grid for our Sunday production Top competencies/qualities of an effective Worship Pastor Resources Mentioned: Show Sponsor: Beyond Sunday Backstage Show Sponsor: Planning Center Knowing God by Sovereign Grace Music Knowing God by J.I. Packer Engaging With God: A Biblical Theology of Worship by David Peterson Worship: Adoration & Action by DA Carson Music Through the Eyes of Faith by Harold Best
2024-09-1257 min
Overflow Worship PodcastEpisode 129: Returning to the Heart of Worship with David SantistevanTune in to a new Overflow Worship Podcast episode! On this episode we welcomed David Santistevan to the podcast! David is a worship pastor and has been training and coaching worship leaders for many years. He's also the host of the Beyond Sunday Worship Podcast. On this episode Andrea Olson and David talk about how worship leading has shifted from an era of excellence and into an era of returning to the heart of worship. David also shares how current worship leaders need to turn from feeling discontent, how to create reasonable expectations, how to connect and engage with...
2024-09-0925 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#326: W. David O. Taylor on Theology for Worship Leaders, Emotional Health, & Worship as Discipleship
Topics Covered:
Emotional health in ministry
David’s journey into ministry
The importance of theology for worship leaders
Worship as discipleship
The role of our physical bodies in worship
Trinitarian worship
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Beyond Sunday Backstage
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
W. David O. Taylor
Open & Unafraid: The Psalms as a Guide to Life by W. David O. Taylor
Glimpses of the New Creation: Worship & the Formative Power of the Arts by W. David O. Taylor
A Body of Praise: Understanding the Role of Our Physical Bodies in Worship by W. David O. Taylor
The Wors...
2024-08-061h 02
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#326: W. David O. Taylor on Theology for Worship Leaders, Emotional Health, & Worship as DiscipleshipTopics Covered: Emotional health in ministry David's journey into ministry The importance of theology for worship leaders Worship as discipleship The role of our physical bodies in worship Trinitarian worship Resources Mentioned: Show Sponsor: Beyond Sunday Backstage Show Sponsor: Planning Center W. David O. Taylor Open & Unafraid: The Psalms as a Guide to Life by W. David O. Taylor Glimpses of the New Creation: Worship & the Formative Power of the Arts by W. David O. Taylor A Body of Praise: Understanding the Role of Our Physical Bodies in Worship by W. David O. Taylor The Worship Pastor by Zac Hicks Fl...
2024-08-061h 02Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#324: David Ryan Cook on Raising Up Young Worship Leaders, Presence Driven Worship, & New Music
Topics Covered:
Thoughts about what God is doing in worship today
What God is doing in this next generation of worship leaders
How to prepare yourself and your team to lead engaging worship
Why it’s important to be unified with your senior pastor
Breaking down the SEU worship record
Why cool, trendy worship music isn’t working anymore
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Beyond Sunday Backstage
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Move of God by SEU Worship
Guard the Glory by David Ryan Cook
Show Sponsor #1: Beyond Sunday Backstage (Coaching Community)
The Beyond Sunday Worshi...
2024-07-2253 min
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#324: David Ryan Cook on Raising Up Young Worship Leaders, Presence Driven Worship, & New MusicTopics Covered: Thoughts about what God is doing in worship today What God is doing in this next generation of worship leaders How to prepare yourself and your team to lead engaging worship Why it's important to be unified with your senior pastor Breaking down the SEU worship record Why cool, trendy worship music isn't working anymore Resources Mentioned: Show Sponsor: Beyond Sunday Backstage Show Sponsor: Planning Center Move of God by SEU Worship Guard the Glory by David Ryan Cook Show Sponsor #1: Beyond Sunday Backstage (Coaching Community) The Beyond Sunday Worship Coaching Community is now open! I’ve wanted...
2024-07-2253 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastWhy Worship Leaders With Less Talent Can Still Be Amazing Worship Leaders
What I heard that particular day in 2008 would stick with me forever. It would ruminate in my head over and over and still does to this day.
I was just out of college. Excited for the future. Big dreams. I had decided early on in my college career that I was going to pursue worship ministry. I had wrestled with the idea of being pastor or being a worship leader. After much deliberation, I settled on worship.
I had a leader after I came out of college who said to me these words:
...
2024-03-1217 min
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastWhy Worship Leaders with Less Talent Can Still Be Amazing Worship LeadersShow Sponsor: Planning Center So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important. I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling. And there is. Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also have free...
2024-03-1217 min
Worshipology with Kurtis ParksDavid Santistevan on Setting and following vision for your life, Leading worship in Church Plants, Creating resources for leaders, and RecruKP chats with podcaster, worship leader and songwriter David Santistevan about setting vision for your life, creating resources, pastoring your team and leading your family well. Connect with David: instagram - @dsantistevan Beyond Sunday Podcast and more - www.davidsantistevan.com Find out more about Kurtis and his new book Worshipology: www.kurtisparks.com AND www.worshipologybook.com Connect with KP for booking and questions: @kurtisparks - instagram - www.kurtisparks.com/booking
2023-09-1934 min
Worshipology with Kurtis ParksDavid Santistevan on Setting and following vision for your life, Leading worship in Church Plants, Creating resources for leaders, and Recruiting the right people for your teamKP chats with podcaster, worship leader and songwriter David Santistevan about setting vision for your life, creating resources, pastoring your team and leading your family well.
Connect with David:
instagram - @dsantistevan
Beyond Sunday Podcast and more - www.davidsantistevan.com
Find out more about Kurtis and his new book Worshipology:
www.kurtisparks.com AND www.worshipologybook.com
Connect with KP for booking and questions:
@kurtisparks - instagram - www.kurtisparks.com/booking
2023-09-1934 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#293: Nick Day on Bethany Music, Flowing in the Spirit, & Fostering Diversity in Your Worship
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School
This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21.
The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft....
2023-07-1455 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#292: Jonsal & Jenna Barrientes from Elevation Worship
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School
This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21.
The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft....
2023-06-2659 min
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastJonsal & Jenna Barrientes from Elevation Worship This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21. The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft. This year’s special guest is 15-time...
2023-06-2659 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#291: Graham Kendrick on Early CCM, Songwriting, & Diversity in Worship Music [Podcast]
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School
This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21.
The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft....
2023-06-161h 06
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastGraham Kendrick on Early CCM, Songwriting, & Diversity in Worship Music Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21. The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft. Th...
2023-06-161h 06Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#290: Hannah Hobbs on Songwriting for the Church [Podcast]
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School
This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21.
The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft....
2023-06-0748 min
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastHannah Hobbs on Songwriting for the Church Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21. The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft....
2023-06-0748 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#289: David Ruis on Spirit & Truth Worship Versus Relevance and Popularity
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School
This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21.
The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft....
2023-05-271h 22
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastDavid Ruis on Spirit & Truth Worship Versus Relevance and Popularity Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21. The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft....
2023-05-271h 22Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#288: Stockholm Worship on Recording a Live Album, Creativity in the Church, & Song Stories
Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School
This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can’t recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21.
The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft....
2023-05-1854 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastStockholm Worship on Recording a Live Album, Creativity in the Church, & Song Stories Show Sponsor: Bethel Music Worship School This episode is brought to you by Bethel Music Worship School. As I look back on my development as a worship leader, I can pinpoint a handful of strategic conferences and events that changed the trajectory of my life. I can't recommend the Bethel Music Worship School enough, taking place this summer in Redding, CA July 17-21. The Bethel Music Worship School began over two decades ago and is an opportunity for worshipers, leaders, songwriters, musicians, and creatives to come together to grow, learn, and expand their craft.
2023-05-1854 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#282: David Funk on The Modern Worship Keys Player, Bethel Music, & Writing Songs [Podcast]
In This Episode, We Cover:
David’s journey into worship
How to develop great keys tone
Best practices/gear for the modern keys player
The surprising reality behind a great pad sound
The difference between arrangement view and session view for keys players
The two most important effect every keys player should learn to use
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
Come Up Here by Bethel Music
Reason
Omnisphere
Keyscape
Kontakt
Spitfire
Nord Stage 2
Ableton
2U rack
Pelican air
Play Audio iConnectivity
Mio XM midi interface
Novation launch control
The Lab soft piano
Noire felt piano
2023-03-0240 min
Beyond Sunday Worship Leader PodcastDavid Funk on the Modern Worship Keys Player, Bethel Music, & Writing SongsIn This Episode, We Cover: David's journey into worship How to develop great keys tone Best practices/gear for the modern keys player The surprising reality behind a great pad sound The difference between arrangement view and session view for keys players The two most important effect every keys player should learn to use Resources Mentioned: Show Sponsor: Planning Center Come Up Here by Bethel Music Reason Omnisphere Keyscape Kontakt Spitfire Nord Stage 2 Ableton 2U rack Pelican air Play Audio iConnectivity Mio XM midi interface Novation launch control The Lab soft piano Noire felt piano ...
2023-03-0240 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#267: David Gungor on Liturgy, Worship Curating, & The Christian Imagination [Podcast]
What You’ll Learn:
Sports escapism NFL Super Bowl predictionsCreative processWriting songs for the churchLiturgy in corporate worship Reimagining engagement in worshipWorship Leaders as curators
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Worship ArtistryShow Sponsor: Planning Center David GungorThe Good Shepherd Music CollectiveThe BrillianceTelosUndaunted PodcastCharles Jones
Show Sponsor #1: Worship Artistry
This episode is brought to you by Worship Artistry. If I could recommend one resource to help Worship Leaders equip and empower their teams, it would be Worship Artistry. One of the biggest frustrations I hear from worship leaders is that their band does not show up...
2022-08-111h 02Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#259: Jonathan Helser on the Artist/Pastor Tension, Chronic Illness & Miracles, and A Discipleship Lifestyle [Podcast]
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
So let’s talk about Planning Center. For those of you who are old enough, we often refer to worship leading eras as the pre-Planning Center days and the Planning Center days. It’s that game-changing and that important.
I talk about Planning Center pretty often on here, and if you’re a worship pastor, you might be wondering what more there is to Planning Center for you beyond worship planning and scheduling.
And there is.
Did you know that with a subscription to Planning Center Services you also h...
2022-06-0149 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#252: Nicole Binion on Confidence, Church Planting, & The Presence of God [Podcast]
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
When I think of essentials for worship ministry, not many compare to Planning Center. It’s a tool I use on a daily basis and works around the clock. Planning Center is all-in-one solution for scheduling our teams, coordinating schedules, communicating about weekend details, and getting responses from band members.
Maybe many of you use Planning Center to schedule your teams and organize your services. While that’s fantastic, it just scratches the surface of what PCO can do for you. If you’re looking to advance to Planning Center Ninja status, yo...
2021-02-1845 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#247: Louie Giglio on Calling Out Destiny in Others, Visionary Leadership, & How to Face Your Giants [Podcast]
Show Sponsor: Planning Center
When I think of essentials for worship ministry, not many compare to Planning Center. It’s a tool I use on a daily basis and works around the clock. Planning Center is all-in-one solution for scheduling our teams, coordinating schedules, communicating about weekend details, and getting responses from band members.
Maybe many of you use Planning Center to schedule your teams and organize your services. While that’s fantastic, it just scratches the surface of what PCO can do for you. If you’re looking to advance to Planning Center Ninja status, yo...
2020-10-2845 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#246: Josh Baldwin on COVID Season, Songwriting Process, & New Music [Podcast]
Show Sponsor: #1: How to Worship A King Video Series
One of the questions I get most frequently is, “What book should I read with my worship team?” My answer, without a doubt is Bob Kauflin’s Worship Matters and Zach Neese’s “How to Worship a King.” Zach’s book is passionate, biblical, and perfect for teams. And now, partnered with Gateway Publishing, How to Worship a King has a video series that is perfect for teams to watch and study together. I can’t think of a better resource for local church worship teams.
To stream the firs...
2020-10-2246 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#245: David Binion on Encountering God, Church Planting, & New Music [Podcast]
Show Sponsor: #1: How to Worship A King Video Series
One of the questions I get most frequently is, “What book should I read with my worship team?” My answer, without a doubt is Bob Kauflin’s Worship Matters and Zach Neese’s “How to Worship a King.” Zach’s book is passionate, biblical, and perfect for teams. And now, partnered with Gateway Publishing, How to Worship a King has a video series that is perfect for teams to watch and study together. I can’t think of a better resource for local church worship teams.
To stream the firs...
2020-10-161h 09Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#241: Derek Johnson on Jesus Culture, New Songs, & Being a Worship Pastor [Podcast]
Great to welcome Derek Johnson as a first time guest to the show. Derek is not only an artist and songwriter with Jesus Culture Music, but also the Worship Pastor at Jesus Culture Sacramento.
In this podcast we talk new music, ministry at Jesus Culture, the tension of artistry and ministry, and more.
Enjoy!
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Show Sponsor: Planning Center
When I think of essentials for worship ministry, not many compare to Planning Center. It’s a tool I use on a daily basis and works around the clo...
2020-09-1049 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#240: Laura Toggs on Young & Free, Hillsong Culture, & Discipleship [Podcast]
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Show Sponsor: Planning Center
When I think of essentials for worship ministry, not many compare to Planning Center. It’s a tool I use on a daily basis and works around the clock. Planning Center is all-in-one solution for scheduling our teams, coordinating schedules, communicating about weekend details, and getting responses from band members.
Maybe many of you use Planning Center to schedule your teams and organize your services. While that’s fantastic, it just scratches the surface of what PCO can do for you. If you’re looking to advance...
2020-09-0331 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#239: Corey Voss on Developing Worship Leaders, Madison Street Worship, & Serving Another Vision [Podcast]
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In This Episode You’ll Hear More About:
How Corey and his church/team have handled COVID-19How to balance planned and spontaneous in weekend worshipHow to coach and develop worship leadersCommunication with your Lead PastorDesperation in worship
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Planning CenterMusic: Heaven Come Closer by Madison Street Worship
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2020-08-2842 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#238: Andy Figueroa on Mosaic MSC, Creative Culture, & Navigating Crises [Podcast]
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In This Episode, We Talk About…
How Mosaic is handling COVID-19Andy’s musical and Mosaic journeyAndy’s role at MosaicWhat makes the culture of Mosaic uniqueHow to approach creative ideas in corporate worshipCreativity vs Accessibility How to structure songwriting retreatsCreative elements of the Human MSC projectCreative constraintsHow to move on after writing a “hit” song
Resources Mentioned:
Show Sponsor: Planning CenterMusic: Human by Mosaic MSC
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2020-08-1951 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#237: David Miller on Improv Leadership, Productivity, & Staff Culture [Podcast]
A great leader is a great question asker.”Stan Endicott, Founder of Slingshot Group
There are no shortage of leadership books in the world today. It seems like every day a new author or speaker is promoting the latest breakthrough formula for team success. If I’m honest, it can be tiresome.
But there’s something about Improv Leadership that is different. The principles in this framework are memorable, immediately actionable, and frankly, a game changer.
That’s why I wanted to welcome my friend and colleague David Miller on the podcast to talk abo...
2020-07-2951 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#236: Ryan Williams on River Valley Worship, Creative Process, & Leading Teams [Podcast]
It’s always a good day when Ryan Williams is on the podcast. I love River Valley Church and the culture that Ryan has helped to steward with River Valley Worship.
Great songs, wonderful team.
We talk about their new project Altars, creative & songwriting process, leading teams, and more!
Enjoy:
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2020-07-0247 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#235: Eric Owyoung on Healthy Habits, Ambient Music, & Creative Process [Podcast]
For years I’ve admired the work of Eric Owyoung. He is a brilliant musician, but what makes Eric special is his production work and how he can capture an emotion through song.
If you don’t know the name Eric Owyoung you may be more familiar with his work as Future of Forestry and more recently, Somniscape. He’s really creating some special music.
In this interview we talk about new music, the emotionally healthy artist, habits, creative process, studio setup, and more.
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2020-06-121h 02Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#234: Melodie Malone on Leading Worship as an Introvert, Passion 2020, and Blooming Where You’re Planted [Podcast]
The ministry of Passion will always be close to my heart. The early records provided a soundtrack to new encounters with God and a strong call to ministry for me.
Melodie Malone is an integral part of the team and in this interview we talk about what it’s like leading worship as an introvert and some highlights from Passion 2020.
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2020-06-0631 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#233: Steven Curtis Chapman on Creative Process, Unity, and New Music [Podcast]
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2020-05-2050 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#232: Gareth Gilkeson on Rend Collective, The Worship Industry, & Calling [Podcast]
What we do is a cross between a Saturday night Irish pub and a Sunday morning church service.”Gareth Gilkeson of Rend Collective
Gareth Gilkeson is one of my favorite interviews for a few reasons. First off, he’s hilarious. Second, he’s not afraid to tell the truth and make fun of himself. Third, he’s a part of Rend Collective, which is a group of amazing people doing amazing things.
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2020-04-2539 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#231: Ryan Romeo On Setbacks, Dreaming, and Deadlines [Podcast]
Great to have Ryan Romeo back on the podcast to talk about this new book, “Head in the Clouds, Feet on the Ground.” Ryan is the co-founder of The Outcry Tour and a Creative Arts Pastor in Phoenix.
This is such a great discussion about bouncing back from setbacks, setting goals, dreaming big, and more.
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2020-03-1650 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#230: Matt Redman on Worship, Wonder, & Trusting God’s Plan [Podcast]
There isn’t a person who has had more influence on me as a songwriter and worship leader than Matt Redman. God has used him in a wonderful way around the world and he’s still the most humble, down-to-earth person you’ll ever meet.
We connect once again to discuss the new record, Let There Be Wonder, and tackle topics such as getting older in ministry, dealing with fame, and songwriting stories.
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2020-02-1140 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#229: Sean Curran on Vintage Pianos, Creative Process, & Chicken Wings [Podcast]
It’s refreshing to be around someone who has been with Jesus. Sean Curran is a refreshing voice who is more concerned with being in the presence of God than just making music. More than most, he has a leadership style that is disarming and invitational.
In this interview we talk about vintage pianos, Passion 2020, creative process, songwriting, and more.
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2020-01-1852 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#228: From Meth Addict to Worship Leader: An Interview with Stephen McWhirter
Hearing of the life-changing power of the Gospel never gets old. How God can turn a life around is a glorious mystery and Stephen McWhirter’s testimony is no different.
Stephen is a wonderful singer/songwriter and worship leader with a story of grace. In this interview we talk music, songwriting, and local church ministry, but we also hear Stephen’s story of redemption from meth addict to worship leader.
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2020-01-0242 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#227: Chris McClarney on Songwriting, Spontaneous Worship & Tiny Hands [Podcast]
What a joy to welcome Chris McClarney to the podcast. Chris is a gifted singer/songwriter and worship leader. We have a blast laughing, talking worship, songwriting, cooking, tiny hands, and more.
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2019-11-2252 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#226: Luke Hellebronth on Church Planting, Engaging Worship, & The Alternative to Excellence [Podcast]
Church planting is not for the faint of heart. I’m always inspired by the ones who head into a difficult area with the light of the Gospel and build from the ground up.
Luke Hellebronth is the Worship Pastor at Gass Street Church, where Tim Hughes is the Lead Pastor. They are taking worship to the streets and making disciples in a very post Christian area.
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2019-10-1156 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#225: Charlie Hall on Worship, Spiritual Disciplines, & Disciple Making [Podcast]
One of the worship leaders who’s had the most impact on me is Charlie Hall. I can think back to specific seasons of my life where Charlie’s music brought me through. Before I ever led worship or considered leading worship, Charlie’s early Passion records taught me so much about creativity, musicality, and how to lead people.
I’m honored to have Charlie on the show this week. We talk about Charlie’s role at Frontline Church, develop worship leaders, redemption stories, and more. So good!
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2019-09-2754 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#224: Cody Carnes on Family & Ministry, Finding Your Voice, & Songwriting
Always great to have Cody Carnes on the podcast. The music this guy is releasing is so refreshing, disarming, and powerful.
We catch up about life on the road, what it’s like being a husband/wife duo yet being separate artists, songwriting, parenting, and more.
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2019-09-1140 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#223: Adam Russell on Vineyard Music, Risk Taking, & Winemaking [Podcast]
Once or twice a year, I hope we have a train wreck Sunday.” Adam Russell
Adam Russell is an entrepreneur, pastor, songwriter, worship leader, and Director of Vineyard Worship USA. Sound like a busy schedule?
Adam and I catch up and talk about the history of the Vineyard, ways worship leaders need challenged today, winemaking, music, and more.
Such a fun convo!
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2019-08-1758 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#222: Mike Grayson on Cross Point Music, Multi-Site Worship, & Developing Culture [Podcast]
Great to have Mike Grayson from Cross Point Church on the show today. Mike is the Director of Worship Culture at Cross Point, a 5 campus church in Nashville, TN. He’s also an accomplished singer/songwriter, having toured as part of the band Mikeschair for 12 years.
We discuss worship culture, leading a worship department across 5 campuses, contract worship leading, songwriting culture, and authenticity in worship.
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2019-07-2750 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#221: Don Potter on Prophetic Music, The Dangers of Fame, & Spending Time with God [Podcast]
Don Potter has been a musical and worship pioneer for over 50 years. I was first introduced to Don through the groundbreaking Morningstar albums of the 90s and early 2000s. Prophetic singing, spontaneous songs that lasted over 30 minutes.
Here in this interview we dive deep into the Morningstar days, prophetic music, the dangers of fame, and spending time with Jesus. This may be my favorite interview of all time. You’ll have to listen to find out why.
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2019-07-131h 14Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#220: Casey Corum on Physical Health, Vineyard Music, & Creative Process [Podcast]
The Vineyard Worship movement has been so special to me over the years. It’s one of the primary reasons I write songs and lead worship today.
It was special getting to catch up with Casey Corum who has been a part of the Vineyard movement for a lot of years. He’s a wonderful songwriter, worship leader, producer, and creative director.
We ramble a bit on this one, but in the best possible way. We talk about physical health, Vineyard Music history, creativity, staying fresh, and more.
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2019-07-041h 09Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#219: Tauren Wells, Micah Tyler, & Phil Wickham from the 2019 K-Love Fan Awards [Podcast]
It’s time for round #2 of the K-Love Fan Awards interviews. We dig deep with Tauren Wells, Micah Tyler, & Phil Wickham. Love how hard these guys work, their hearts for the Kingdom of God, and the music they create.
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2019-06-2126 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#218: Josh Baldwin, Mark Hall, & Michael Cochren From the K-Love Fan Awards [Podcast]
I haven’t done many in person interviews as part of the Beyond Sunday podcast. Most have been over a Skype, FaceTime or phone call. But that’s about to change.
A couple weeks ago my wife and I headed down to the Grand O’l Opry in Nashville to cover the 2019 K-Love fan awards. It was such a treat to interview a number of artists in person.
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2019-06-1431 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#217: Leonard Jones on Worship Trends, Prophetic Music, & Practice [Podcast]
Never practice the things you already know. Always be working on something that’s a little too hard for you.”Leonard Jones
When I was in middle school I came across some CDs that changed my view of worship. I listened to Passion, Tim Hughes, Matt Redman, and Delirious. But I also listened to some albums from Morningstar Ministries. The albums were full of spontaneous, 30 minute songs. Incredible musicians. Some weird stuff. But I loved it.
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2019-06-081h 10Beyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#216: Brock Shinen on The Worship Music Industry [Podcast]
Are you a songwriter? Do you and your team write songs for the local church and have a desire to record that music? Maybe you already have.
Honestly, there’s no better guy to talk to than Brock Shinen. Brock is an attorney with a passion for the local church that helps numerous artists in the Christian Music space.
In this interview we talk about the worship music industry, horror stories, success stories, and Brock’s new online course.
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2019-05-3046 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#215: Brian Johnson on Anxiety, Bethel Music, & When God Becomes Real [Podcast]
I love having Brian Johnson on the podcast. He’s down to earth, real, and always full of incredible insight. In this interview we talk about his story and the circumstances surrounding his new book, “When God Becomes Real.”
We discuss anxiety, Bethel Music, favorite songs, worship music, and more.
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2019-05-1734 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#214: Tim Foot on Healthy Teams, Staffing, & Global Worship Trends [Podcast]
There’s a depth of wisdom and perspective that come from years in the trenches of local church ministry. Tim Foot is one of those heroes. Having been in worship ministry for 26 years, he brings so much wisdom to worship pastors around the world.
As the Vice President of Experience at Slingshot Group, Tim and I work together to serve local churches with staffing and coaching.
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2019-05-1038 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#213: Jon Egan on Vulnerable Worship Leading, Pursuing Jesus, & Staying Steady [Podcast]
It’s always a treat to talk with Jon Egan. Jon has been the Worship Pastor at New Life Church in Colorado Springs for 18 years. For so many years he’s written incredible songs for the church like I Am Free, Overcome, and so many others. His new record “Unveil” is one of my favorites over the last couple years.
In this conversation we talk about longevity in ministry, the heart behind the album, leading with strength and vulnerability, and so much more.
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2019-05-0434 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#212: Rory Noland on Leading Artists, Worship, and Spiritual Formation [Podcast]
There was a book I read in college that challenged me deeply. It was called Thriving As an Artist in the Church. It was pastoral, wise, and carried compassion for both artists and pastors.
Then I went on to read a prior book called The Heart of the Artist. Both books were by this guy Rory Noland. And today we have the privilege of hearing from this legend.
We talk church, contemplative worship, spiritual formation, leading artists, and more.
Straight fire!
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2019-04-2745 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#211: Manuel Luz on Honest, God Centered Worship [Podcast]
Was great to welcome Manuel Luz to the podcast this week. We dive deep into his new book, Honest Worship, and what that means for Worship Pastors. This is a below the surface, deep dive into what is most important for worship pastors.
So good!
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2019-04-1929 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#210: Elias Dummer on The Worship Movement, Discipleship, & Songwriting
It’s always a good day when Elias Dummer is on your podcast. Not only is he a great singer/songwriter, he’s incredible thoughtful when it comes to worship, theology, psychology, and discipleship.
There. Is. So. Much. Packed. Into. This. Interview. We talk new music, discipleship, neuroscience, recommended books, songwriting, the church, and more.
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2019-04-1149 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#209: Amanda Lindsey Cook on Grief, Lyric Writing, & The Mystery of God [Podcast]
Grief is a gift but it’s a grip and it will not let you go until you feel what needs to heal.”Amanda Lindsey Cook
I’ve wanted to have Amanda Cook on the podcast for such a long time. Well friends, that time is now.
This has got to be in the top 5 favorite interviews I’ve ever done. There’s a lot of depth to Amanda’s creative process and also the recent journey she has walked through. I told her this was like a “therapy session for worship leaders.”
We talk about th...
2019-04-0445 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#208: Mack Brock on Songwriting Productivity, Anxiety, & New Music [Podcast]
I love Mack Brock’s heart for the church and his dedication to writing songs that take us deeper.
In this interview we discuss his new EP, Covered, and talk seasons of life, UNITED tour, anxiety, vulnerability, and more.
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2019-03-2829 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#207: Kristian Stanfill on Passion Conference, Revival, & Songwriting Habits [Podcast]
I’m always so moved by what God is doing with the Passion Movement. For over 20 years, Louie Giglio and the team has called a generation to pursue Jesus with abandon.
Kristian Stanfill and I catch up and talk about Passion 2019, songwriting habits of the Passion team, revival, and stories of what God is doing.
So good!
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2019-03-2128 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#206: Chris Shealy on Catch the Fire, Encountering God, & Worship Movements [Podcast]
Great to welcome Chris Shealy from Catch the Fire Music to the podcast. For all the worship movements out there, I love gleaning insights from each. And Catch the Fire has an insatiable hunger for the presence of God.
We talk about the new record, worship movements, songwriting, and the importance of encountering God in worship.
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2019-03-1430 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#205: David Leonard on Worship, New Music, & Overcoming Insecurity [Podcast]
It’s inspiring how artists learn how to reinvent themselves, break new ground, and never give up. I’ve loved the work of David Leonard from his days with All Sons & Daughters, but what’ he’s doing now is on another level.
In this interview we talk about his new project, the insecurity of an artist, how to be a great producer, waiting on God, and more.
So good!
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2019-03-0744 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#204: Lindy Conant on The Circuit Riders, Missionary Music, and Foster Care [Podcast]
It’s hard to listen to Lindy Conant and not be stirred to action. She has a fire in her bones for the Kingdom of God and spreading a passion for Him across the nations.
This interview is simple: we talk about the new record, foster care, avoiding the comparison trap, and running after all that God has. Prepare to be stirred!
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2019-02-2825 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#203: Highlands Worship On Creating A Process for Worship Team Development [Podcast]
For years I’ve admired the work that Church of the Highlands is doing to reach people for Christ. This week’s podcast is a conversation with John Larson and Chris Griffin from Highlands Worship.
I love this because it feels like worship leader friends catching up and talking about ministry. These guys manage a worship team roster of 900 people across 19 campuses in Alabama. It’s staggering.
If you are a multi-site church (or planning on it), listen all the way to the end. So. Much. Gold.
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2019-02-2153 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#202: Jonathan Mason On the Worshipping Church, The Music Industry, And Getting Your Songs Heard [Podcast]
Jonathan is the Director of Word Worship Music. He brings a ton of music industry experience with a heart to serve the Church.
We talk about his story, writing worship songs, the problem with worshiping worship, how to get your songs heard, how to find new songs, and more!
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2019-02-1432 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#201: Nikki Lerner On Multicultural Worship, Influence, & True Humility [Podcast]
I love this conversation with my new friend, Nikki Lerner. It’s important on so many levels. Multicultural worship isn’t just a matter of preference and opinion. It’s Biblical and a reflection of God’s heart.
We talk about what that looks like, creativity, true humility (it’s not what you think), songs for church, and more.
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2019-02-0751 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#200: Andy Squyres on Leading Worship, The Church, & Pursuing Poetry Over Platitudes [Podcast]
A conversation with Andy Squyres is one the leaves you a little more brave, thoughtful, and thankful. It’s like the opposite of talking to someone who hates everything.
But what’s interesting is Andy speaks his mind when it comes to modern worship and corporate songwriting. But he loves the church. And he’s a worship pastor.
If you’ve never heard of Andy, you need to check out his music. It’s life giving and quite refreshing. And my prayer is that this interview causes you to dig a little deeper with your art, pray...
2019-01-3149 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#199: Nancy Beach on the Power of Coaching, Art in the Church, & Breaking Out of Creative Ruts
Such an honor to welcome Nancy Beach to the podcast. Nancy was the Programming Director at Willow Creek for over 20 years, one of the main teaching pastors, and one of the founders of the church. She is a world class coach and an amazing leader.
Nancy and I both do work with an incredible organization called Slingshot Group – an organization committed to building remarkable teams through staffing and coaching.
In this interview we talk about art in the church, pitfalls for young (and old) leaders, breaking out of creative ruts, and more. This. Is. So. Go...
2019-01-2447 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#198: Stephen Miller on Adoption, Songs, & Leading A Worship Department
Stephen Miller is no stranger to Beyond Sunday. Great to have him back to talk about his beautiful family, adoption, new music, a new ministry, worship ministry, and more.
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2019-01-1759 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#197: Michael Pope on Playing Guitar, Worship Music, & Gear [Podcast]
Today we welcome guitar extraordinaire Michael Pope to the podcast. Michael has played on numerous Bethel Music recordings and has traveled the globe, doing ministry with the Bethel team.
He has nice guitars. And pedals. And amps. But he’s also a great player and an even better human. We talk about all things creativity, guitars, pedals, amps, practice, coffee, and more.
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2019-01-1048 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#196: An Interview With Meredith Andrews & Jacob Sooter [Podcast]
What a treat to welcome Meredith Andrew and her husband Jacob Sooter to the podcast…together! If you don’t know Meredith Andrews, she is a wonderful worship leader, songwriter, and vocalist based out of The Belonging in Nashville, TN. Her husband Jacob is an incredible producer in his own right.
And this interview covers the spectrum. We go deep into Meredith’s new project Faith and Wonder and discuss the heart of the project as well as talk production, how to create a great pad sound, keyboards, creative process, songwriting, and best practices for a live recordin...
2018-12-2052 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#195: Krissy Nordhoff On Finding Your Strength As A Songwriter [Podcast]
Persistence is the difference.” – Krissy Nordhoff
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2018-12-0747 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#194: Sean Feucht on Worship & Prayer Throughout the Nations [Podcast]
I started in my dorm room. Sometimes we would worship for a few hours. Sometimes we would go the whole night.” – Sean Feucht
What I love about this interview with Sean Feucht (and Sean’s new record) is the lesson that a fiery passion for Jesus is something that needs continual cultivation. If not, Christianity can slip into a maintenance of rules and regulations where our lives look no different than the world around us.
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2018-11-2318 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#193: Crowder on Shaking Up the Creative Process, Holy Ghost Songs, & Airplane Conversations [Podcast]
A conversation with Crowder is equal parts hilarious and riveting. For the last 18 years, he has written songs that have helped us connect with God, while pushing the limits of creativity. His new record I Know a Ghost is no different.
I think it could be the best album from a Christian artist this year. But I’ll leave that up to the professionals.
This interview was so much fun. We talk about the creative process, rediscovering the heart of songwriting, coloring books (again), and more.
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2018-11-0940 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#192: Austin French on Worship, Songwriting, & Redemption Stories [Podcast]
I remember writing in my journal, ‘I will never be a Christian.'” – Austin French
So fun to welcome Austin French to the podcast. Austin is a worship leader and a new singer/songwriter to the CCM scene. I particularly loved Austin’s story of how he came to faith after being so hurt by the church.
We talk about the new record, leading worship, songwriting, and more.
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2018-10-2624 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#191: Mack Brock on New Songs, New Seasons, & The Calling of a Worship Leader [Podcast]
Great to welcome Mack Brock back to the podcast. Mack is an incredible worship leader, songwriter, and producer. Formerly from Elevation Worship, Mack has embarked on a new season in his life.
In this episode, we talk all about that transition, working at Elevation, new seasons, songwriting, song stories, working with Rita Springer, Ableton Live, and more.
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2018-10-1234 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#190: John Mark McMillan on Metaphors, Creative Process, & New Music [Podcast]
There’s always trends, but a good instrument, played well, with a good melody, will almost always be relevant.” – John Mark McMillan
There’s something inspiring about sitting down with a seasoned songwriting veteran in his prime. John Mark McMillan is a legend with no signs of slowing down. His music keeps getting better.
My first interview with John Mark was one of my favorites of all time. His perspective on creativity, honesty, and a flat-out love for music is so inspiring. And this conversation doesn’t disappoint.
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2018-09-2851 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#189: Phil Wickham on The Songwriting Process [Podcast]
When it comes to finding great songs for church, look no further than Phil Wickham. Phil’s songs have a theological depth and pop sensibility that get stuck in your head like no other. His new record, Living Hope, might be his best yet.
So I wanted to bring Phil on the show to talk about his journey, running, his local church, songwriting, and whatever else we talk about. It’s a good one, folks.
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2018-09-0842 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#188: Pat Barrett On Faith, Spontaneous Worship, & Stepping Out [Podcast]
There’s something about Pat Barrett’s voice and songs that have a re-centering effect – they call us to focus on what matters. Listening to his music makes me want to pick up the pen and write with a similar honesty, depth, and melodic sensibility.
A lot has happened since Pat was on the show a few years ago. We talk about life transition, new songs, memes, instagram accounts, worship leading, and more.
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2018-08-2453 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#187: Alisa Turner On Pain, Loss, & Singing Through It All [Podcast]
Sometimes I wonder how the people who walk through the greatest sorrow have the most joy. And then I’m reminded that’s how God works. He’s faithful. He’s good. He doesn’t promise the road will be easy but He promises to satisfy our souls.
This is the story of Alisa Turner, a true fighter who has weathered so many storms and lived to sing about it. Her new record Miracle Or Not is a beautiful testament to God’s faithfulness.
In this interview we talk about all she’s gone through, t...
2018-08-0348 minBeyond Sunday Worship Leader Podcast#186: Fred Vassallo on Leading Kids in Worship & Unleashing Creativity in the Next Generation [Podcast]
There is no junior Holy Spirit. The same God that is the God of the adults is the God of the youth.” – Fred Vassallo
It was a treat to welcome Fred Vassallo on the podcast this week. Fred is the Creative Director of Bright Ones, the youth & kids extension of Bethel Music.
As a hip hop choreographer and dance instructor, he knows a lot about vision, creativity, and empowering young people.
To be honest, all my kids want to listen to his Bethel Kids. I’ll try to make them listen to my...
2018-07-0246 min
Worship Ministry Training Podcast (For Worship Leaders)How To Be More Organized and Productive w/ David Santistevan David Santistevan joins us this month to discuss organization, productivity, and efficiency as a worship leader. Many musicians have a bad rap for being lazy and disorganized, but this should NOT be the case in the Church! David is the host of the well-known “Beyond Sunday Podcast” (a podcast for worship leaders that you should DEFINITELY be listening to), as well as an author, blogger, worship leader, songwriter, album producer, music instructor and family man! So David clearly knows a lot about time management and productivity! In this episode we talk about why organization and productivity matter for Worship...
2016-03-0142 min
Worship Ministry Training Podcast (For Worship Leaders)How To Be More Organized and Productive w/ David Santistevan David Santistevan joins us this month to discuss organization, productivity, and efficiency as a worship leader. Many musicians have a bad rap for being lazy and disorganized, but this should NOT be the case in the Church! David is the host of the well-known “Beyond Sunday Podcast” (a podcast for worship leaders that you should DEFINITELY be listening to), as well as an author, blogger, worship leader, songwriter, album producer, music instructor and family man! So David clearly knows a lot about time management and productivity! In this episode we talk about why organization and productivity matter for Worship Leaders, how to...
2016-03-0142 min
Worship Ministry CatalystWMC – 0118 – Interview with David SantistevanIn this episode of the Worship Ministry Podcast, we are very fortunate to have as our guest, David Santistevan. If you haven’t been over to his site, you’re going to want to do so, I promise, you won’t be disappointed. He has a ton of very useful content for worship leaders and worship team members. […]
2012-09-1400 min