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Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeWho Needs the Ad Meter? 𝘋𝘗 & 𝘔𝘤𝘎𝘩𝘦𝘦 𝘰𝘯 𝘚𝘶𝘱𝘦𝘳 𝘉𝘰𝘸𝘭 𝘚𝘱𝘰𝘵𝘴, 𝘏𝘢𝘭𝘧𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘉𝘶𝘻𝘻 & 𝘚𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘚𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘎𝘳𝘰𝘸𝘵𝘩Episode 99 | DP & McGheeWhat kind of sportsbiz podcasters would we be if we didn’t talk Super Bowl?In this episode, DP & McGhee go beyond just the game to cover:🏈 The on-field action in Super Bowl LIX🎤 The halftime show performance📺 The hits and misses in this year’s ad lineup — including a few favorites (and a few flops)David takes the high road after correctly predicting the winner, while Tim…well, let’s just say he’s got a few regrets.Also on the docket:💰 A sharp look at MLB and NFL’s reco...
2025-02-1348 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeBy The Numbers: 𝘉𝘦𝘯 𝘙𝘦𝘪𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘰𝘧 𝘕𝘪𝘦𝘭𝘴𝘦𝘯 𝘚𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘋𝘢𝘵𝘢 𝘋𝘳𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘚𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘉𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘋𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴Episode 98 | DP & McGheeDP & McGhee open the show with bold Super Bowl LIX predictions — and yes, one of them nails it. But before kickoff, they dive into:🔁 The blockbuster trade between Luka Dončić and Anthony Davis🎲 Ongoing scandals around sports betting in the NBA and MLBThen they’re joined by Ben Reiling of Nielsen Sports — a longtime leader in the brand marketing world — for a fascinating conversation about:📊 How data and analytics are reshaping decisions in the sports industry🥤 His days at The Coca-Cola Company and insights from one of the biggest brands in the ga...
2025-02-061h 03
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeFrom Notre Dame to Nostradamus: 𝘋𝘗 & 𝘔𝘤𝘎𝘩𝘦𝘦 𝘗𝘳𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘤𝘵 𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘵’𝘴 𝘈𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘉𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘪𝘯 2025Episode 97 | DP & McGheeDP & McGhee kick off 2025 with a wide-ranging, no-guest-needed episode to get back in the groove.They open with a look back at:🏈 The College Football Playoffs🏆 The NFL Conference Championship gamesThen it’s time to turn the page:🔮 The co-hosts revisit their 2024 predictions — and both make a solid case for their sportsbiz clairvoyance📅 They lay out bold takes and big bets on what’s coming in 2025We predict you’ll enjoy the show.🎧 Don’t miss this episode of Wait, What?
2025-01-3040 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeYou Gotta Fight...: 𝘑𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘗𝘢𝘶𝘭, 𝘕𝘦𝘵𝘧𝘭𝘪𝘹, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘕𝘍𝘓’𝘴 𝘚𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘗𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘳 𝘗𝘭𝘢𝘺Episode 96 | DP & McGheeIt’s beginning to look a lot like...time for another sportsbiz chat.DP & McGhee close out 2024 with a lively conversation on:🥊 The upcoming Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson fight and its potential impact on Netflix’s first-ever Christmas Day NFL games🕵️♂️ The growing buzz over whether the fight outcome could be scripted📺 NFL Thanksgiving ratings that once again prove the league’s dominance in live TVAlso on the rundown:🏎️ F1 season wrap-up⚽ MLS Cup🏈 Final takes ahead of the College Football PlayoffPacked weekend. Packed episode. Let’s go...
2024-12-0529 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 95 (S3:E19): A Sportsbiz ConucopiaThanksgiving is right around the corner in the US, and like a fully loaded Turkey Day table, DP & McGhee have a little something for everyone.
The hosts serve up the recently completed NASCAR season as the appetizer, followed by a main course of NFL with a side of Tom Brady. Major League Soccer serves as a nice intermezzo before David and Tim serve up a sweet dessert of the stories they are following.
Bon appetit!
2024-11-1538 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 94 (S3:E18): Spotlight & SponsorshipDP & McGhee spend most of today’s episode talking about two recent high profile sponsorships and in the case of Campbell’s and Harris Blitzer, how the deal came together.
They also recap the recently completed World Series, talk about the first College Football Playoff rankings and how the change in administrations in Washington might impact the sports of golf. Please excuse the occasional inferior audio quality.
2024-11-0732 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 93 (S3:E17): Ta{l}king AttendanceMLS, NWSL and the WNBA all broke attendance records this past season, and DP & McGhee talked about the success these leagues have experienced and hope to continue into the new year.
They also touched on the hot button topic of NIL and the impact college athletes have had on the changing landscape of collegiate sports.
It's been a while, but David and Tim also talk about the recently announced media deal between QVC and USA Pickleball. Would you like to buy an exfoliant before the next match starts?
They close out the episode...
2024-10-1036 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 92 (S3:E16): The Beautiful Game Comes to the U.S.DP & McGhee welcome Camilo Durana, EVP of Major League Soccer and Soccer United Marketing to talk about the recently completed Summer of Soccer in the US. As Camilo rightly points out, the beautiful game will be coming back next year and in the summer 2026 all eyes will be on North America as the FIFA Men's World Cup returns to North America for the first time in 32 years.
Before their conversation, David and Tim talk about Tom Brady and Alex Morgan, two greats returning and leaving the sports stage, respectively. They also discuss the NFL's great opening weekend...
2024-09-1055 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 91 (S3:E15): We'll Always Have ParisLike Ilsa and Rick in Casablanca, DP & McGhee talk at great lengths about Paris in this episode...specifically, the recently concluded Summer Olympic Games.
Following an extended summer break, the show welcomes Steve Margosian, founder of Across the Board Sports Media Consulting and former NBC Sports executive with nearly 30 years Olympic media experience.
Along with talking about Olympics past, present and future, Steve shares his stories about working for the legendary Tony Ponturo at Anheuser-Busch and the Busch Media Group.
David and Tim also talk about the carriage dispute between Disney and DirecTV...
2024-09-051h 07
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 90 (S3:E14): 90 Never Looked So GoodDavid and Tim spend the 90th episode of Wait...What? going deep on a couple of big topics in the world of sports.DP comes around to a new found respect? appreciation? tolerance? for Bryson DeChambeau after his performance in the US Open. While McGhee will not give up predicting a Rory victory at the Open Championship despite his meltdown at Pinehurst.
Caitlin Clark is never far from the spotlight, or the back pages, so the hosts talk about her burgeoning rivalry with Angel Reese, being left off the Olympic roster, and her role in important is...
2024-06-1845 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 89 (S3:E13): Not Fade AwayDP & McGhee share their thoughts on Bill Walton, the legendary basketball player and broadcaster. Both remember the Big Red Head from his playing days, noting that many of the show's listeners might be too young to have seen his greatness first hand.
Staying with the basketball theme, David and Tim talk about the soon to be completed NBA media rights deal and what's potentially in Charles Barkley's future.
The NCAA continues to be in the news, so it continues to be a topic of discussion on the show. Both co-hosts agree that on-field logos are...
2024-06-0143 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 88 (S3:E12): No Guest? No ProblemAfter a brief hiatus, DP & McGhee are back with a wide-ranging discussion around the business of sports. First up, was the NFL, which generates storylines 12 months a year, even around things like OTAs.
Next up is a brief recap of the NHL playoffs. And college athletics is in flux, to put it kindly, and David and Tim talk about some of the issues coming up around athlete commercialization. Spoiler alert, it's not always pretty.
The hosts end the show with a humorous chat about the Ricky Stenhouse (Jr. and Sr.) dust up with Kyle Busch. If...
2024-05-2340 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 87 (S3:E11): A Flame-to-Flame OpportunityDP & McGhee are joined by Terrence Burns, a true luminary in the Olympic movement. Terrence tells stories ranging from assisting Casey Wasserman and the LA28 bid effort to writing a speech for...Vladimir Putin?
He lays out a compelling case for what brands can hope to achieve through an Olympic sponsorship and how the Olympic Games are more than just sport.
There's more, of course. The #sportsbiz chat hosts also talk about their latest favorite topic, Caitlin Clark, and women's sports. But, this conversation has an interesting twist, including a disagreement with one media personality an...
2024-04-251h 24
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 86 (S3:E10): Getting Real Smart About AIDP & McGhee are joined by Shripal Shah, author of the recently published book, "Leveling Up with AI: A Strategic Guide to AI in Sports Marketing." Shripal makes a potentially complex topic easy to understand for sports marketers.Before the interview, the co-hosts talk about the Masters, the meteoric rise in viewership for the WNBA Draft, and the lifetime ban imposed by NBA Commissioner, Adam Silver, on Jontay Porter for betting on basketball and trying to influence prop bets on himself.Enjoy.
2024-04-1849 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 85 (S3:E9): Two Shining MomentsHello friends. Another year of March Madness is in the books, and this was unlike any one in history. South Carolina prevailed over Caitlin Clark and Iowa on the way to an undefeated season. This match-up for the ages led to over 18M viewers for a game played on a Sunday afternoon. On the men's side, UConn pulled away from Purdue in the second half to repeat as NCAA Champions.But unlike every year before, the women's final outdrew the men's game, and by a lot (4M viewers). Yet another watershed moment for women's sports.And DP & M...
2024-04-1046 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 84 (S3:E8): Take Me Out to the Ball GameIt's Opening Day, and DP & McGhee are back with their 84th episode. That is higher than the number of games NHL and NBA teams have in a season, and more home games than an MLB club plays each year. But, we digress.
The hosts talk about the dark side of sports betting, which is starting to make its way from the back pages to the front pages with Shohei Ohtani embroiled in a potential scandal, NCAA president Charlie Baker calling for a ban on prop bets on college players, and Raptors forward Jontay Porter being held out of...
2024-03-2939 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 83 (S3:E7): Mixed Bag MarchAfter the longest episode in the history of the show, DP & McGhee come back with a much shorter show this week. But, that doesn't mean the hosts didn't touch on numerous topics. From the Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race (for the second week in a row) to Mike Tyson getting back in the ring to the potential coming together of men's and women's tennis, David and Tim hit a lot of the news.
Check it out before you get too caught up in March Madness.
2024-03-1533 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 82 (S3:E6): Legends of the #SportsBiz, Rob PrazmarkRob Prazmark has built a legendary career, selling some of the biggest and most impactful sponsorships in the history of sport. He joins the show to talk about his book, "The Olympics Don't Take American Express," a journey through his nearly 40-year career in the Olympic Movement and beyond. His insights, advice and stories make him one of the best guests the show has ever had.
Oh, and DP & McGhee are also there. Talking a lot about collegiate sports, Clarkmania and the brewing F1 controversies.
Enjoy!
2024-03-081h 25
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 81 (S3:E5): BahRain, Delay in Daytona & MoreThe podcast took a rather deep digression (even deeper than normal digressions) into the world of 1970s progressive rock in the middle of a wide-ranging discussion of news in the business of sports. Trust us, it’s worth the listen.
DP & McGhee talked about the issues facing two of the bigger events on the sports calendar. While the problems with the NBA All-Star Game were all man-made, NASCAR had Mother Nature to blame for delaying the Great American Race by a day.
And although it’s still February, college football is never far from the minds...
2024-02-2244 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 80 (S3:E4): The Coolest MonthPoets call April the cruelest month. For the sports industry, February may just be the coolest. DP & McGhee talk at length about the biggest event of the month, the Super Bowl. But, they certainly didn’t want to ignore another marquee event, the NBA All-Star Weekend.
And David and Tim were honored to have NBA Executive Vice President Kerry Tatlock talking about all the festivities taking place in Indianapolis. Kerry provided insight into two big new sponsorship deals the NBA recently announced with some megabrands.
The Waste(d) Management Phoenix Open, ESPN’s revised CFP deal...
2024-02-1656 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 79 (S3: E3): Big Show, Big GameDP jumped on the mic from London to record this episode just days before the Super Bowl kicks off in Las Vegas. There was plenty of talk about the Big Game, including DP and McGhee’s predictions. Let’s just say they’ll either both be crowing or you won’t hear another word about it.
The hosts also talked about the commercials they’re most looking forward to seeing, and some of them are really familiar to fans.
The recent announcement that ESPN, Fox and Warner Brothers Discovery were coming together to bundle their sports offe...
2024-02-1042 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 78 (S3:E2): Hail To The VillainsThe University of Michigan football team circled the wagons after not one, but two, suspensions of head coach, Jim Harbaugh. And they embraced their role as villains of the college football world all the way to a national championship. DP & McGhee talk about the ratings and the ramifications of the last College Football Playoff featuring 4 teams.
The hosts also touch on the feud within Disney between two top talents, as well as ESPN’s major investment in NCAA Championships, including the women’s basketball tournament.
Finally, David and Tim also make their predictions for the 2024 sports...
2024-01-1138 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 77 (S3:E1): Sign, Sign, Everywhere a SignDP & McGhee kick off season 3 by welcoming Jerry Cifarelli, Jr., President & CEO of ANC, an industry-leading media and technology company.
There was a lot to talk about after the holiday break, and David and Tim touch on the College Football Playoffs, Jim Harbaugh and the Pop-Tarts Bowl.
David Tepper, a newly popular topic for discussion (often for the wrong reasons), makes the show after tossing a drink into the crowd at last weekend’s game between Tepper's Carolina Panthers and the Jacksonville Jaguars.
The hosts also take a look back at their 2023 predictions – a tr...
2024-01-051h 01
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 76 (S2:E27): Gifts For EverybodyIn the midst of the holiday season, DP & McGhee have something for pretty much every sports (biz) fan in this episode. They start the discussion with their most popular topic, LIV Golf. Jon Rahm’s decision to join the upstart league certainly seems to have impacted the negotiations between PIF, LIV and the TOUR.
They then pivot to the history-making contract signed by MLB phenom, Shohei Ohtani, and MLB’s big jump in sponsorship revenue. If you’re a college football fan, this show has you covered as they talk about the upcoming CFB playoffs. NBA? They’ve got you...
2023-12-1448 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 75 (S2:E26): Diamond (in the rough) JubileeIn this, their 75th episode, DP & McGhee touch upon some topics that have become very familiar to loyal listeners. The merger between the PGA TOUR and LIV Golf continues to have more twists than Shelly (Alan Arkin) serpentining in the In Laws. NASCAR’s new media deal beats expectations, with new partners joining the dance.David and Tim both agree that if he’s not the worst owner in sports, this certain billionaire is certainly in the conversation. And no, it’s definitely not Mark Cuban, who’s also a topic of discussion.They also hit on the conf...
2023-12-0138 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 74 (S2:E25): A Conversation With Jim AndrewsJim Andrews, as much as any person in the sports industry, made marketers smarter about sponsorships. His work at IEG, both with IEG Report and the IEG Conference, was groundbreaking and essential to the dramatic growth of the sports marketing industry from the 1980s through the present.
Jim shares his thoughts and perspective on a broad range of subjects during his visit.
DP & McGhee also talk about the complicated legacy of Bobby Knight, World Series ratings (and what they do or don’t say about MLB’s prospects going forward) and the newly named head coach...
2023-11-0958 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 73 (S2:E24): Let's Be BriefSome weird stuff is happening up in Michigan. Between inappropriate trivia questions at Michigan State and an alleged cheating scandal in Ann Arbor, DP & McGhee talk the craziness that is Michigan college athletics these days.
The co-hosts then talk about the ongoing Fall (not so) Classic going on between the D•Backs and the Rangers. Neither co-host can speak with too much first-hand knowledge about the World Series, but since when did that stop them?
The ever popular sponsorship segment is back, with DP and McGhee talking at length about briefs. Namely, the recently announced deal...
2023-11-0240 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 72 (S2:E23): Woke Up This Morning, Got Myself a BeerDP & McGhee return with a free wheeling conversation around LIV Golf, one of their favorite topics, the New York Jets, F1 and most notably UFC’s really big deal with Bud Light.
As many people know, Bud Light was recently knocked off its perch as the best selling beer in the US as a result of a concerted effort by some people to boycott the brand. This new deal shows Bud Light leaning into its core audience, and borrowing the equity of one of the strongest sports brands out there – the UFC.
And, it wouldn’t be a...
2023-10-2739 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 71 (S2:E22): I Was Told There Would Be No MathDP & McGhee dig into the numbers in this week’s episode, talking about MLB attendance, NFL viewership, Inter Miami ticket prices, and Liverpool FC investments. They also do a recap of some of the stories around the recently completed Ryder Cup (DP even likens the rivalry to war), including how the Saudi investment could impact the event going forward.
No guest? No problem. The hosts talk about some past guests, including one legendary sports business journalist’s take on spring football.
Take a listen to hear about a whole host of topics related to the sport...
2023-10-0438 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 70 (S2:E21): "In Any Event," A Conversation with QuintEvent's Keith BruceLong-time sports industry leader, Keith Bruce joins DP & McGhee for a discussion about the recent acquisition of QuintEvents by F1-owner Liberty Media and what it means for their growth and expansion plans. The QuintEvents International President also talks about his long and storied career, including being the CEO of Super Bowl 50, arguably the most important Super Bowl in the history of the NFL. Bruce also gives listeners his perspective on what has changed and what’s remained constant in his more than a quarter century in the sports biz.
The co-hosts start off talking about the up...
2023-09-291h 10
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 69 (S2:E20): Welcome Back Our Friends to the Show That Never EndsAfter a long, hot summer, DP and McGhee are back! As cool as the coming fall. In this episode, your intrepid hosts distill a season’s worth of sports biz news into an hour long show.
With football now in full swing, they talk about everything from Coach Prime to Aaron Rodgers to record ratings to conference realignment. The other football gets some love, as well. Specifically, the Messi Effect and his immediate and significant impact on MLS.
Tim and David are both impressed by both Coco Gauff and Novak Djokovic and how they fared both o...
2023-09-1450 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 68 (S2:E19): Summertime...& the Living's EasyDP & McGhee are about to take a hiatus from the show to enjoy the summer. But before they sign off for a few weeks, they touch on a number of topics around the sports industry. No show would be complete without a discussion of LIV Golf, but while the merger (or whatever you want to call it) between the TOUR and LIV Golf is under legal and regulatory scrutiny, it will continue to be newsworthy. But golf in general continues to create compelling storylines, whether it’s the US Open won by a guy who'd never made a cut at...
2023-06-2142 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 67 (S2:E18): LIV and Let LIV DieThe show has covered LIV Golf as much as it has any current topic in sports, but this week’s episode is dedicated almost exclusively to the recent merger (?) between the TOUR, the DP (not short for David Paro) World Tour and LIV.Oh, and a pretty good soccer player named Lionel something is coming to MLS.
2023-06-0845 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 66 (S2:E17): LIV Long & ProsperDP & McGhee kick off, or should we say tip off, the show talking about LeBron’s departure from the playoffs and the real possibility that the Celtics might also be swept away. Brooks Koepka won his 5th major this past weekend, but his first since joining LIV Golf. What is the impact of Koepka's win, both long- and short-term, on the upstart golf tour?
Getting back to hoops, your co-hosts talk about the start of the WNBA season, highlighted by Brittney Griner’s return to the court and Breanna Stewart going full beast mode.
On a more...
2023-05-2446 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 65 (S2:E16): Around the HornDP & McGhee take advantage of not having a guest by touching on a whole host of topics around the sports industry. They start by channeling their inner Siskel & Ebert (look it up, kids) to discuss the Ben Affleck-directed “Air” about Nike’s efforts to sign Michael Jordan before he became MICHAEL JORDAN, or just MJ. And keeping to their rule about only discussing certain topics on days that end in Y, they hit upon the NFL’s upcoming schedule and PGA of America’s honcho Seth Waugh’s take on LIV Golf.Your hosts also touch on the NBA and NHL p...
2023-05-1751 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 64 (S2:E15): Legends of the #SportsBiz-Rick SingerAlternate title: Will you still need me, will you still feed me when I’m (episode) 64
DP & McGhee spend the opening segment discussing ratings for the NHL and NBA Playoffs, MLB first month numbers and, yes, Super Bowl ratings. And while they do discuss action on the field of play, that merely goes to show you that the sporting side impacts the commercial operations and vice versa.
The Co-Hosts are then joined by Rick Singer, one of the most accomplished and nicest people in the sports industry. From his early days at the NBA, to run...
2023-05-0458 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 63 (S2:E14): Playing Catch (up)DP & McGhee return from a week off and toss around a number of topics during the latest episode. David, knowing positive news for NY Jets fans is sometimes hard to come by kicks of the discussion by talking about the trade that brings Aaron Rodgers to Gang Green. Spoiler alert, both hosts see the Jets as a playoff contender in the 2023 season. That can't bode well for J E T S Jets, Jets, Jets.
Going from the American brand of football to the beautiful game, the hosts talk about the success of Wrexham, not only on the pitch but on t...
2023-04-2649 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 62 (S2:E13): Shooting the Bull with PBR CEO, Sean GleasonThe growth of bull riding as a major sports property has been nothing short of phenomenal. A lot of credit for that goes to Sean Gleason, the CEO of the Professional Bull Riders. From creating not one, but two docuseries around the sport to selling franchises to the Team Series, Sean has been among the most innovative leaders in sports. On this episode, Sean talks about PBR’s founding 30 years ago, its milestone anniversary, and the sport’s future.
DP & McGhee open the show by recapping the recently completed Masters, and of course LIV Golf works it...
2023-04-1250 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 61 (S2:E12): Reunited (and it feels so good)After global travel and illness kept the dynamic duo apart for several weeks, DP & McGhee return in fine form to discuss the recently completed NCAA men’s and women’s basketball tournament, Masters Golf and other sundry and various topics. Endeavor’s purchase of WWE to merge it with UFC gets a bit of the irreverent treatment the podcast promises, while IBM’s use of its Masters sponsorship to showcase some pretty cool AI technology checks the “sometimes serious” box. And throughout the episode, David and Tim don’t hold back on their opinions.
2023-04-0635 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 60 (S2:E11): Chip & Chat, A Conversation With PGA TOUR's Julie TysonThis week’s guest is Julie Tyson, a Senior Vice President with the PGA TOUR with responsibility for Global Partnerships - Global Strategy and Innovation. Julie has held a variety of senior roles within the organization, so she’s well suited to talk about the recent changes and innovations the TOUR has implemented to increase fan engagement, viewership and ultimately participation in the sport. And, as one of the most senior women in the business of golf, she has a vested interest in the steps the TOUR has taken to address DEI. Spoiler alert – they’ve done a lot.
At...
2023-03-3023 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 59 (S2:E10): Legends of the #SportsBiz-Bill SuttonWith David on the PUP list due to a lost voice, Tim flies solo in this episode. McGhee interviews Bill Sutton, a true industry legend. Bill talks about working with David Stern to launch the NBA’s TMBO (Team Marketing/Business Operations) group, his early days in the industry and advice that any person in the sports business can benefit from heeding. Dr. Sutton has created and led some amazing sport management programs at various universities, and has helped place thousands of students in positions throughout the sports world. Listen to our latest #sportsbiz "Legends Series" interview here.
2023-03-2432 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 58 (S2:E9): Heroes and VillainsAfter taking a week off, DP & McGhee return with a conversation that runs the gamut across a variety of sports, and around the world. March Madness is top of mind for many US sports fans, so the hosts talk about everything from NIL to incoming president Charlie Baker to a big corporate sponsor returning. Of course, they also touch upon gambling and the grandaddy of college basketball betting, the office pool. XFL seems to be a nearly weekly discussion, and this episode is no different as DP & McGhee talk about falling ratings and what that bodes for long term...
2023-03-1544 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 57 (S2:E8): Spotlight on Sponsorships-Our Chat With SponsorUnited Founder, Bob LynchDP & McGhee mine a rich lode when they go back to two favorite subjects, LIV Golf and pickleball. LIV Golf delivered less than stellar ratings on the CW, while pickeball landed a title sponsor with Vlasic pickles coming on board in one of the most obvious brand partnerships in history.
After talking about some recent sponsorship news, the hosts welcome Bob Lynch, the founder and CEO of SponsorUnited. SponsorUnited is one of Inc. Magazine’s fastest growing companies, and Bob talks about the genesis for the platform, an early meeting with an NBA owner that led to an i...
2023-03-011h 00
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 56 (S2:E7):Young Entrepreneur Series feat. SidelineSwap Co-founder and CEO Brendan CandonAs part of the ongoing Young Entrepreneur Series, DP & McGhee welcome Brendan Candon, CEO of SidelineSwap, an online platform for buying and selling sports equipment. Brendan takes us through lessons learned, the recent strategic investment by Dick’s Sporting Goods, and advice for would-be entrepreneurs.
Before talking to Candon, the co-hosts talk about the highs and (mostly) lows of the NBA All Star festivities, the first weekend of the re-launched XFL, the great atmosphere at the Genesis Invitational and the US Women’s team performance in the SheBelieves Cup.
Next week, DP heads out on the...
2023-02-2147 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 55 (S2:E6): By The Numbers-MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference Co-Founder, Jessica GelmanCEO of the Kraft Analytics Group (KAGR) and co-founder of the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference, Jessica Gelman joins the show to talk about the growth and evolution of analytics in the sports business, on both the sporting and commercial side. Gelman feels that the science of data analytics in sports is still in its very early stages of development and has only begun to scratch the surface of what it can add to the business of sports. Started as a one-day event in 2006 with only a keynote speaker, the conference is now sold out, offers dozens of panels a...
2023-02-1552 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 54 (S2:E5): Ram Tough - Fordham AD, Edward KullDP & McGhee welcome Fordham University’s director of athletics, Edward Kull to the show. Ed talks about the challenges of running a program competing in a mid-major conference, how things like NIL have complicated an already complex job, and how programs like Fordham drive revenue, the lifeblood of college athletics.
Given that it’s Super Bowl week, our hosts spent most of the up front portion of the show talking about the...NHL. Of course, they also mentioned Tom Brady’s (2nd) retirement as well as Pepsi’s decision to swap out Mountain Dew for Starry as the flag...
2023-02-0847 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 53 (S2:E4): "Drivers, Start Your Engines" - Penske's Jonathan GibsonWe may be less than two weeks away from the Super Bowl, but the NASCAR season starts this weekend in Los Angeles, and F1 revs up in just over a month. So, DP and McGhee were excited to welcome Jonathan Gibson, EVP, Marketing and Business Development for the Penske Corporation to the #sportsbiz chat. Jonathan has had a long and storied career and he shared some of the wisdom he’s gained from working for the legendary Roger Penske. He also talked about some of the great things Penske has in store for IndyCar and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
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2023-02-0149 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 52 (S2:E3): Young Entrepreneur Series feat. Daniel Hennes, CEO of EngageDP & McGhee launch a new segment, the Young Entrepreneur Series and they couldn’t have asked for a better first guest than Daniel Hennes, co-founder and CEO of Engage. Daniel shares his journey of disrupting an industry that had been inefficient and often wrought with bad actors. Engage allows brands and athletes to connect creating opportunities for companies to utilize talent for appearances and speaking engagements. Daniel’s maturity certainly belies his young age.
What would an episode of Wait…What? be without a discussion about LIV Golf and pickleball? And both were legitimately in the news this past...
2023-01-2558 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 51 (S2: E2): Academic Roundtable-A Discussion With Sport Management LeadersWait…What? welcomes three leading educators from three of the most prestigious sport management programs in America. Lisa Delpy Neirotti of George Washington University, David Hedlund of St. John’s, and Will Norton of the Isenberg School at UMass join the podcast to talk about sport management as an academic discipline. The distinguished group talks about the importance of real-world experience to the educational journey, the changes they’ve seen in sport management and their respective paths to academia. While all three bring a unique perspective, they also share a lot of the same views on things like networking, hard w...
2023-01-181h 05
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 50 (S2:E1) We're Baaaack!DP & McGhee kick off Season 2 of the podcast talking about a host of topics. They open with a discussion about the College Football Playoffs and the Georgia Bulldog juggernaut. After the dismantling of TCU, it would seem the expansion of the playoff field can’t come too soon. And keeping with the “kicking” theme, our hosts talk about the ongoing drama at US Soccer involving the US Men's National Team. They finish the soccer chat by paying tribute to Pelé, the GOAT.
On a much happier note, David and Tim celebrate Damar Hamlin’s continued recovery from a nearly fat...
2023-01-1139 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 49: That's a Wrap(ping)DP & McGhee head into the holidays with a look backward on an extraordinary first season of Wait…What. DP opens the show by putting a bow on FIFA World Cup, talking about the thrilling finals and the legacy Qatar hoped to create vs. the one it may be left with. McGhee then talks about the NCAA’s announcement that Massachusetts governor, Charlie Baker, has been selected to replace outgoing president, Mark Emmert. After some quick hits, McGhee relates his story about breaking into the sports industry, which involves more than a little luck.
The hosts then weigh in on...
2022-12-2154 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 48: Nothing But Net With ESPN's Debbie AntonelliWomen’s Basketball Hall of Fame member and ESPN analyst, Debbie Antonelli, joins the #sportsbiz chat to talk about the current college hoops season, NIL, Title IX, and the importance of putting the time in. And if the NCAA ever calls, Debbie will be ready with her list of things she’d change in college athletics. After a several-week hiatus on the topic, DP & McGhee open this week's episode talking about LIV Golf and the seemingly ill-conceived plan to garner public support for the Saudi government. The hosts also talk about World Cup, including the tragic passing of Grant Wahl...
2022-12-141h 02
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 47: A Mixed BagDP & McGhee go without a safety net (and without guest) as they take on a variety of topics during this episode of "Wait…What?" The hosts talk at length about the new College Football Playoff format that is scheduled to start in 2024, a few years earlier than originally planned. They discuss the ramifications of a 12-team CFP field and how conferences may alter the way they choose their champion. After some conversation about Coach Prime, Dr. Pepper and the spate of bowl games, David and Tim talk about the World Cup and Qatar’s desire to use its time in th...
2022-12-0745 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 46: Sponsorship Analytics with Dr. JIt’s the biggest event in global sports, so it’s no surprise that DP & McGhee covered the stories surrounding the US vs. Iran match in the FIFA World Cup. And because of our recording schedule, we didn’t have the result until we went back into the "studio" to interview our guest and record our closing segment. So, we were able to speak about the US moving on to the knockout stage. Not for the first time, and it almost certainly won’t be the last, the Washington Commanders made their way into the conversation.
And in a firs...
2022-11-301h 05
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 45: While My Qatar Gently SleepsIt’s evening in Doha as Aggregate Sports CEO and former Swansea City AFC COO, Chris Pearlman, joins DP & McGhee to provide his perspective on FIFA World Cup from on the ground in Qatar. Chris provides some unique and timely insight as a fan and sportsbiz executive. Before being joined by Chris, David and Tim talk about the happenings both on and off the pitch in Qatar. From the brave Iranian team and captain, to the BBC reporter who is literally wearing her thoughts about human rights on her sleeve, to FIFA chief Gianni Infantino's public comments about the co...
2022-11-2343 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 44: World Cup Primer With Former USMNT Captain, Marcelo BalboaDP & McGhee go full fan boy when they talk to three-time World Cup player, and Team USA captain Marcelo Balboa. “Rambo” talks about his career in soccer from the fields of San Pedro, to the world stage, to the broadcast booth, and provides a great overview of what to expect from the tournament in Qatar. The story behind his famous bicycle kick goal while with the Colorado Rapids, arguably the best one in MLS history, is a Wait…What classic. Before being joined by their guest, the hosts talk about issues surrounding the upcoming World Cup, the NFL taking the sho...
2022-11-1659 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 43: Your Guide To The Men's World Cup With FIFA's Eduardo SolisWith FIFA World Cup fast approaching, DP & McGhee are joined by FIFA Head of Partnership Marketing, Eduardo Solis, before he heads off to Qatar. One of the biggest spectacles in sports, World Cup delivers nearly a month of the world's most popular sport to millions of fans around the globe. Solis talks broadly about the beautiful game, including FIFA’s commitment to social causes, the growth of the women’s side, and FIFA’s blue chip partners.
This episode also covers the potential sales of the NFL's Washington Commanders and Premier League's Liverpool FC, which could net their o...
2022-11-091h 10
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 42: College Multi-Media Rights 101 with LEARFIELD's John BrodyAs we move to the final stretch of the college football season, LEARFIELD Chief Revenue Officer John Brody joins the #sportsbiz chat to talk about the changing landscape of collegiate multi-media rights and the opportunities they provide brands. Brody brings experience from a variety of senior-level roles at WWE, Major League Baseball, Wasserman and the NFL. DP & McGhee also talk about the dramatic performance of Ross Chastain at Martinsville Speedway, which once again earned its nickname of the Half Mile of Mayhem, the dysfunction surrounding the Brooklyn Nets, and Lionel Messi’s reported move to MLS. Tired of pickleball? Get...
2022-11-021h 12
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 41: ESports Exploration with Dave BialekWith League of Legends Worlds 2022 heading toward the finals, DP & McGhee welcomed Dave Bialek, a sports industry veteran who made the jump to esports in 2016 and is now the president of Infinite Reality Entertainment and Co-founder and CEO of ReKTGlobal. Dave gives a tutorial on all things esports with a focus on how brands can best utilize esports and gaming to build relationships with customers. Our hosts kick of the show talking about F1, including the recently completed US Grand Prix in Austin, the new ESPN broadcast deal, Red Bull Racing celebrating success while mourning the passing of its...
2022-10-261h 06
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 40: Running With The Pac - Our Conversation with Pac-12 Networks' Steve TsengWith so much swirling around the college sports space, Pac-12 Networks Executive Vice President Steve Tseng joined DP & McGhee to talk about the current state of affairs in college athletics, and how the Pac-12 approaches securing and engaging its blue chip roster of partners. The show opens with a look at the success MLS has realized this season boasting solid growth in social engagement, viewership and attendance. As MLS looks towards its new streaming deal with Apple, it will be interesting to see if they can keep the momentum going into 2023 and beyond.
It’s hard to get...
2022-10-1849 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 39: Act Locally, Think Globally - Our Conversation with Kansas City Chiefs President, Mark DonovanOn the Wait...What? #sportsbiz podcast we like to say we take a sometimes serious look at the sports business. The recent report from former Acting Attorney General, Sally Yates, detailing the abuses in the NWSL is one of those times. We talk about the path forward for a league that has had great success on the pitch and in securing league partners. Of course, we have some fun with the "sport of the future," pickleball, as well as cheating in...chess?
DP & McGhee are then joined by President of the Kansas City Chiefs, Mark Donovan, who talks ab...
2022-10-121h 00
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 38: A Sit Down With NBCUniversal's Mark LazarusDP & McGhee are joined by Mark Lazarus, Chairman of NBCUniversal Television & Streaming. Leading one of the world’s largest media companies, Mark is consistently ranked among the most influential people in the industry. NBC Sports' premier portfolio of properties serves as the backdrop for the far-reaching discussion and Mark shares his thoughts on a variety of subjects, including soccer’s growth trajectory in the US, his bullishness on motorsports, the importance of the Olympic Games, and even LIV Golf.
At the top of the show, David and Tim talk about the NFL’s latest black eye with the Tua...
2022-10-0459 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 37: Playing In Culture With Campbell's Snacks' Stephen ChrissOn their latest episode, DP & McGhee are joined by Stephen Chriss, VP of Digital Commerce and Omni-Shopper Marketing at Campbell's, to talk about his over quarter-century career in partnerships. Stephen talks about what it means to "play in culture" by being relevant to consumers and giving them a reason to put the product in the basket. He also talks about his personal passion for pizza and how that passion has turned him into a content creator.
Your hosts always hit on a variety of topics and this episode is no different. DP pays tribute to Roger Federer upo...
2022-09-2855 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 36: The Audible AudibleWhen DP & McGhee’s guest cancels at the last minute due to unforeseen circumstances, your intrepid hosts are forced to adjust on the fly. And adjust they did. Creating a veritable potpourri of #sportsbiz chat combined with a healthy dose of popular culture (Pop Culture is a relative concept, keep in mind). The show starts like most other episodes with a discussion ranging from the (Amazon) Prime Video Thursday Night Football production to the NBA’s handling of Suns’ owner Robert Sarver. Quick Hits included the NASCAR race in Wilkesboro with a nice anecdote from DP about riding through the woo...
2022-09-2154 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 35: Bruin With a Capital B...George Pyne Joins the ChatDP & McGhee are joined by George Pyne, the founder and CEO of Bruin Capital, an investment and operating company specializing in working with capital partners and management teams to build best-in-class, global sports, media, entertainment, marketing, and technology companies. George has been at the center of some of the biggest stories in sports over the past 25 years, including the explosive growth of NASCAR in the 1990s and the consolidation of collegiate multi-media rights in the new millennium. He shares his thoughts on where the sports industry is growing, and the importance of technology to that continued growth. Much to t...
2022-09-1353 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 34: This Episode Is So Good It Should Be LegalAs we close the book on summer, our focus shifts to the big news coming out of college football (off to a roaring start, by the way), the approaching NFL season, and the changing of the guard at the US Open. DP & McGhee were honored to welcome Mike McCann, director of the Sports & Entertainment Law Institute at the University of New Hampshire Franklin Pierce School of Law. In addition to addressing the myriad legal matters facing the sports industry, Mike provides a captivating narration of his career journey. Never ones to rest on their laurels, DP & McGhee formally introduce a...
2022-09-071h 02
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 33: Sponsorships From the Brand Perspective with Visa's Andrew CohenDP kicks off this episode talking about the recent successes (and a few failures) of Amazon in its quest to grow share and reach in live sports, while McGhee, the resident sports-card geek waxes (poetically?) about the recent sale of a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle rookie card. Before getting to their quick hits, DP & McGhee touch upon their favorite (or at least most-frequent) subject, LIV Golf. Not a week goes by without major news breaking about the rogue golf league. Visa VP of Sponsorship Strategy, Andrew Cohen, joins the podcast to talk about innovation, future-proofing a sponsorship and the importance o...
2022-08-3156 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 32: Playing With The Fire Featuring Chicago Fire FC's Ishwara Glassman ChreinIshwara Glassman Chrein, President of Business Operations for the Chicago Fire joins “Wait…What” to talk about things going on both off and on the pitch. Among other topics, Ishwara discusses the future of soccer at Chicago's Soldier Field, the new Apple+ media deal with MLS, working for fans, and the importance of culture to an organization’s success. DP & McGhee start off the episode with yet another conversation about the soap opera that is the world of professional golf before talking in admiring tones about the recently announced Big Ten media rights deal, the biggest in collegiate sports history...
2022-08-2441 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 31: All's Wells That Ends Well with Wells Fargo's Pam BatalisOn Episode 31, Wells Fargo Senior VP, Sponsorships and Brand Engagement, Pam Batalis, joins DP & McGhee to talk about her long and successful career across a number of organizations in the sports industry. Pam delivers a detailed look at the strategy behind Wells Fargo's sponsorships and the company's approach to activation. As a former star college basketball player, Pam talks about Title IX and the role it played in her Hall of Fame career as a student athlete and a business leader. And, given her experience in the collegiate multi-media rights space, Pam is extremely knowledgeable when weighing in on co...
2022-08-101h 01
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 30: The NFT OG -- Our Talk with Sweet's Tom MizzoneSweet is a leading NFT platform and marketplace, working with some of the world's leading brands and sports properties. On today’s episode, Sweet founder and CEO, Tom Mizzone talks about what NFTs are, how the utility they unlock can drive deeper consumer engagement, and the cool (pun intended) new program Sweet is launching with the NHL. DP & McGhee go around the horn touching on numerous topics, starting with the death of the legendary Bill Russell, someone who was the epitome of a life well lived. The co-hosts also talk about the success of England's Lionesses (both on the pitc...
2022-08-0355 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 29: Phenix Rising with Jed CorenthalHow we view sports is in a constant state of change and on this episode of "Wait...What?" we direct the #sportsbiz chat to an emerging technology that will most certainly affect how we engage with live sports. Jed Corenthal, CMO of Phenix, a provider of real-time video solutions, joins the podcast to discuss the benefits of "real-time" streaming for fans and what we can expect in the future. While sports betting obviously was a major topic covered, Jed touches on a number of other potential interactive applications. As they are wont to do, DP & McGhee touch on a...
2022-07-2759 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 28: Extra Time with MLS's Chris SchlosserIt may be Major League Baseball's All-Star Break, but given the spate of big news coming out of Major League Soccer, the #sportsbiz chat was thrilled to welcome Chris Schlosser, SVP – Emerging Ventures at MLS. Topics include the league's recent media rights deal with Apple, a data partnership with IMG Arena that has broad implications, and the continued growth and success of soccer in the US. As always, there were plenty of other storylines to cover during the episode (which we did), including the business of baseball, LeBron dissing Boston, an early Silly Season in motorsports, and, of course, LI...
2022-07-1954 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 27: Tagging Up with the Atlanta Braves' Adam ZimmermanWith the Major League Baseball All-Star Game set for next week in Los Angeles, DP & McGhee welcome Adam Zimmerman, SVP of Marketing and Content for the defending World Series Champion Atlanta Braves to the chat to talk about the importance of fan engagement, thinking big, and how a digital experience is still “real”. A truly creative marketing leader, Adam relates some great stories about successful club campaigns. Your co-hosts also talk about the latest stirrings around college realignment, LIV Golf, this week's Open Championship from St. Andrews, the WNBA’s tribute to Brittney Griner, and give shoutouts to Sabrina Ianesc...
2022-07-131h 05
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 26: That's The Story...Our Conversation with PR Pro Joe FavoritoIt's story time on the #sportsbiz chat. DP & McGhee are joined by sports PR expert and industry insider, Joe Favorito, to talk about sports communications. Joe shares some great tales from his storied career across college and professional sports. Trust us, these are stories you want to hear. Before getting into the most recent upheaval in collegiate sports, with an eye toward even more realignment and movements, your hosts pay tribute to one of the country's greatest events, the Nathan’s Famous Hot Dog Eating Contest, and the legendary Joey Chestnut. Sadly, David and Tim felt compelled to talk abo...
2022-07-061h 01
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 25: Flying In The Drone Zone with the DRL's Rachel JacobsonDP & McGhee open their 25th episode talking about MLB’s recent decision to allow clubs to sell sponsorships to CBD companies and whether we’ll see cannabis sponsors at any time in the future. They also talk about Naomi Osaka’s most recent success as a sports agent, and the PGA TOUR’s most recent response to LIV Golf (spoiler alert, a reconciliation doesn’t seem to be in the cards anytime soon). The hosts are then joined by long-time NBA executive and current Drone Racing League president, Rachel Jacobson. Rachel flies across a number of topics, speaking in detail abou...
2022-06-291h 03
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 24: Title IX Special Featuring WNBA Commissioner, Cathy EngelbertWNBA Commissioner, Cathy Engelbert, joins DP & McGhee to help celebrate the 50th anniversary of Title IX, its impact on her personally and professionally, the state of the league as it continues to grow, and the latest on the Brittney Griner situation. The hosts also discuss recent developments around LIV Golf and the spate of new sponsors across several leagues. They even work in a random reference to Miley Cyrus. All in a day’s work for your intrepid podcasters.
2022-06-2248 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 23: Sticking Around with USA Lacrosse's Marc RiccioThe sport of Lacrosse gets headline billing in our latest episode as USA Lacrosse CEO Marc Riccio joins DP & McGhee to talk about the growth of the sport, the upcoming Women’s World Championships and the chances we’ll see lacrosse in the 2028 Los Angeles Olympic Games. Once again, the show takes up the biggest story in golf since the development of the mashie niblick, LIV Golf. It has roiled the golf world, with geopolitical implications and ongoing impact on players, broadcasters, sponsors and fans. Additional topics include the NBA Finals, Apple TV+ and MLS’s blockbuster announcement, and more.
2022-06-1552 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 22: Trading Paint with NASCAR's Jeff BurtonWith just two weeks before NASCAR makes the leap from Fox Sports to NBC, DP & McGhee are joined by NASCAR on NBC commentator, Jeff Burton. A 21-time winner in the NASCAR Cup Series, Burton talks about the differences between when he raced and the experience his son Harrison is having as a Cup Series Driver today. He also talks in great depth about the importance of sponsors and how the drivers, fans and sponsors all benefit from each other. Also discussed on episode 22: the crazy money being thrown around by LIV Golf, the disappointing NBA Finals ratings (to date), J...
2022-06-0852 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 21: Let's Get Engaged with the NHL's Keith WachtelAt the opening of every episode of "Wait...What?," it is stated that the podcast takes a “sometimes serious” look at the business of sports. That was definitely the case this week as DP & McGhee discuss the sports world’s response to the horrible tragedy in Uvalde, TX. As the show continues, your co-hosts talk about this past weekend's Indy 500 (raced in front of a capacity crowd at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway) and also lobby for media credentials, shuttle tickets and housing for the upcoming FIFA World Cup in Qatar. As we enter the conference finals stage of the Stanley...
2022-06-0142 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 20: Mixing It Up With Amazon's Mike McCannDP & McGhee cover a lot of ground in their 20th episode. They start by discussing the upcoming NCAA Lacrosse Championships and segue into the historic agreement that guarantees pay equity in US Soccer. They then discuss the recently completed PGA Championship and the sponsorship fallout for players choosing to play in the upcoming LIV Golf events.
Seasoned sponsorship marketer, Mike McCann then joins the program to talk about Amazon’s approach to sponsorships, including the strategy behind their unique naming rights deal of Seattle's Climate Pledge Arena.
2022-05-251h 02
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 19: Legends of the #sportsbiz - Donald DellDP & McGhee are joined on this episode by Donald Dell, the legendary sports marketer who was one of the industry’s true pioneers. Dell talks about the evolution of the sports marketing industry from its beginnings over 50 years ago to the global business it has become, and drops a lot of knowledge about persistence, relationships and, yes, tennis. The hosts also talk about the latest news in the LIV Golf/PGA TOUR saga, the “sportswashing” being done by the Saudi government to attract top athletes and events, and then transition to a discussion about the prospects for continued growth in wome...
2022-05-1854 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 18: NamasteMay is Mental Health Awareness Month and we seek to shine a light on this important topic by welcoming Suraj Batheja, co-founder and COO of The Manifest Company. Suraj provides some excellent advice on how to practice mindfulness and the importance of taking care of your mental health. DP & McGhee open the chat on F1's continued success, including the success of the inaugural Crypto.com Miami Grand Prix, Liberty Media's Q1 earnings and the upcoming media rights deal. David continues to be skeptical about Tom Brady's transition from the field to the broadcast booth following Fox Sports' big...
2022-05-1157 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 17: "The Shootaround" with the NBA's Kelly FlatowDP & McGhee open the show talking about the future of the NCAA as it seeks to find its next leader following the recent announcement that current president, Mark Emmert, will be stepping down. The pair also discuss the size and scope of the sport of cricket as it continues to make inroads in the US, and after talking about the recently completed NFL draft and the success seen by the NHL's new media partners, your co-hosts introduce this week’s guest, Kelly Flatow of the NBA. Kelly has had a long and storied career in sports and entertainment, and she...
2022-05-041h 06
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 16: A Timely Talk With Trendsetting Ty TumminiaWhat can we say, we love alliteration. Ty Tumminia, former Commissioner of the Premier Hockey Federation, talks about her long and storied career in minor league baseball and women’s hockey, growing up in a baseball family and her bullish outlook on women's sports. DP & McGhee talk about the rapidly changing world of digital media, including the impact Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter might have on the sports business, and how Netflix’s recent challenges could impact their sports strategy. The hosts also talk about the All England Club’s decision to ban Russian and Belarusian players from this year’s...
2022-04-2750 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 15: 4/20 -- What do you think we'd talk about?Howard Schacter, Chief Communications Officer for MariMed, a vertically integrated marijuana company, joins DP & McGhee to talk about the state of the cannabis industry. He also gives the real 411 on 4/20 and talks about some of the great campaigns he's executed over the course of his storied career. Tim and David also dish on the USFL, Jackie Robinson Day, the upcoming Chelsea sale and 70s stadium rock. They also look at one of the unintended consequences of NIL, namely tax bills some student-athletes didn't see coming.
2022-04-201h 00
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 14: The Bucks Stop Here With Peter FeiginWith the NBA playoffs tipping off this week, Peter Feigin, president of the defending champion, Milwaukee Bucks, joins DP & McGhee for this week’s episode. Feigin discusses how winning a championship has helped the Bucks build a global brand in countries like the Philippines. He also talks about the importance of speaking truth to power when it comes to issues of social justice and race relations. No discussion about the Bucks would be complete without mentioning Giannis Antetokounmpo and Peter lets us in on how he reacted when the team re-signed the Greek Freak to a Super Max contract. DP...
2022-04-1351 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 13: Kicking It Around with US Soccer's David WrightWith the US Men's National Team having just qualified for the 2022 FIFA World Cup and a settlement with the US Women's National Team largely in the rearview mirror, the US Soccer Federation's Chief Commercial Officer, David Wright, joins DP & McGhee to take a deep look into the status of soccer in the United States and what the future holds. Be sure to listen through to hear the great advice David offers to young professionals looking to break into the business. Episode 13 also covers the rise of women's sport and how Tiger's participation in The Masters this week will affect...
2022-04-0654 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 12: Teeing it up with the TOUR's Norb GambuzzaMcGhee takes a well-deserved victory lap to celebrate his March Madness predictions, while DP opines on the renewed popularity of F1 in the US. Your co-hosts then shine a light on the continued run of success for Major League Baseball as they announce a new sponsor in one of the most important categories. SVP of Media and Gaming for the PGA TOUR joins in to chat about the crop of great young players, the TOUR's new mega-media deals and what they mean for fan engagement, as well as the TOUR's reaction to the LIV Golf Super League. Once again...
2022-03-301h 10
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 11: The Big Bet on Sports Betting with Chris BevilacquaThe midway point of March Madness seemed like the perfect time to take up the topic of sports betting in detail. Simplebet co-founder and CEO, Chris Bevilacqua, a leading sports industry expert across multiple segments, joins DP & McGhee to provide a lay of the sports betting landscape. The discussion covers state rollout post-PASPA, the data marketplace, and the guardrails being placed on the industry to maintain integrity. Other topics covered include the Chelsea F.C. sale and major sponsorship stories, and your co-hosts field more excellent questions from sports management students.
2022-03-231h 02
2022-03-1800 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 10: The Role of the Marketing Agent with Russ SpielmanThe sports industry has snapped back exceptionally well from two years ago--this week--when all sports were shut down. DP & McGhee talk Tom Brady return, MLB labor settlement, jersey sponsorship and more. Talent marketing agent, Russ Spielman of GSE Worldwide joins the discussion to discuss the changes that are driving his business, particularly NIL. And the co-hosts revive their college program segment fielding a question from a St. John's student.
2022-03-1651 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 9: Tipping Off March Madness with Eric Oberman, Naismith AwardsWith conference tournaments tipping off and the NCAA men's and women's tournaments set to launch next week, it was a perfect time to talk with Eric Oberman, executive director of the Naismith Awards. DP & McGhee touch on a ton of other subjects, including Charlotte FC, Brittney Griner's detainment in Russia, and Calvin Ridley's year-long suspension from the NFL. So much to discuss, so little time. McGhee also stumps DP on an opening trivia blindside. He just didn't see that coming.
2022-03-091h 04
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 8: How 23XI Racing is Raising the Bar in NASCAR with Steve LaulettaWith the world roiling from Russia's invasion of Ukraine, DP & McGhee address the sports industry's response to the crisis and touch on other major storylines, including Phil Mickelson's sponsor defections, and the settlement between the US Women's National Team and U.S. Soccer. Special guest, Steve "Jake" Lauletta, of 23XI Racing, speaks to the new energy in NASCAR and how his race team, owned by Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin, is building a brand that reaches far beyond traditional NASCAR boundaries.
2022-03-0256 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 7: Trading Knowledge on Trading CardsMLB may still be in lockout, but the leading and most-storied trading card company, TOPPS has launched its 2022 collection. VP, Product Development, Clay Luraschi, joins the show to discuss. DP & McGhee also discuss the impact (or lack of it) left by the Beijing Winter Olympic Games and the curtain being pulled down on the busiest #sportsbiz season.
2022-02-2337 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 6: Super Bowl Post-MortemWith Super Bowl LVI behind us, DP & McGhee do an advertising and ratings post-mortem on the broadcast, and look toward upcoming major #sportsbiz calendar events. A new segment, Ask DP & McGhee, is introduced with tremendous questions coming in from undergraduate sports business students at Chicago's DePaul University.
2022-02-1640 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 5: Talking NFL During Super Bowl Week with the League's CRO, Renie AndersonHeading into Super Bowl LVI, DP & McGhee take a look at the stories surrounding the NFL, including the Brian Flores lawsuit, advertising on the game, sports betting, and more. NFL Chief Revenue Officer, Renie Anderson joins the discussion to provide some in-depth insights into how the league builds fan engagement and sponsor activation. Renie's story on how she got started in the #sportsbiz is not to be missed.
2022-02-091h 01
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 4: Olympic Deep Dive 2 with LA28's Christopher PepeAs a hyperactive #sportsbiz season continues, DP & McGhee cover a wide range of topics, including the dramatic Australian Open finals, the massive Microsoft acquisition of Activision, the rise of Las Vegas as a major sports city, and much more. Chief Commercial Officer of LA28 and US Olympic & Paralympic Properties, Christopher Pepe joined the show to discuss why the Olympic Games remain a vibrant opportunity for brand marketers and what he expects the legacy of the LA games in 2028 to be.
2022-02-0247 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 3: Talking Sports Marketing with SBJ's Terry LeftonDP & McGhee chat about the epic weekend of NFL playoff football, the new NCAA Constitution, and welcome pioneering sports business journalist, Terry Lefton for a broad-ranging discussion. Topics tackled include, Super Bowl advertising, crypto sponsorship, Fanatics' ambitions, why he doesn't accept press releases, and much, much more. Terry is a "valuable/invaluable" resource to the sports business and he shows why during this episode.
2022-01-2649 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 2: Olympic Games with guest Gary PluchinoWith the Beijing Winter Games set to begin on February 4, DP & McGhee take a deep dive into the Olympic movement with special guest, Gary Pluchino, a veteran sports marketing executive that has spent a good deal of his career guiding major Olympic sponsorship programs. Other topics include, Novak Djokovic and the Australian Open, the MLB lockout, and the College Football Playoff.
2022-01-1947 min
Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGheeEpisode 1: Introducing "Wait...What? with DP & McGhee"Welcome to the inaugural episode of "Wait...What? with DP & McGhee." On this week's episode, co-hosts and #sportsmarketing industry veterans, Tim McGhee and David Paro, provide an overview of what they are hoping to accomplish with this new podcast. Topics include the enduring strength of live sports, #sponsorship in the #cryptocurrency category, and the Let's Go Brandon #NASCAR drama. DP also provides some background on how he got his career start.
2022-01-1237 min