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Two Therapists At A BarFrom The Ground Up: Farming & Mental Health with Philip WiygulIn this episode, we sit down with our friend Philip Wiygul, a lifelong outdoorsman and agricultural educator, to talk about his journey into farming and how he’s blended his love of the land with a passion for teaching. We explore the highs and lows of farm life, career reflections on purpose and resilience, and how mental health shows up in both quiet moments and busy seasons. Philip Wiygul serves as the Agricultural Director at Shenandoah Valley Academy, where he leads hands-on food production for both the school and local community. A lifelong outdoorsman, Ph...2025-07-241h 25Two Therapists At A BarPorn in A Marriage: What No One Talks AboutIn this episode, we finally dive deep into a topic we’ve lightly touched on before—pornography, unwanted sexual behavior, and sex addiction. We focus especially on how these aspects show up in marriages and long-term relationships. What exactly is sex addiction, and is it even real? Is porn use within a marriage ever healthy? How can partners tell the difference between occasional use, compulsive patterns, and full-blown addiction?We explore the emotional toll on both parties, what accountability and recovery can look like, and what betrayed partners can do to support themselves. Whether you’re personally impact...2025-07-171h 23Two Therapists At A BarWhere Physics Meets Our Inner Worlds with Dr. Klebert FeitosaCurious about how cutting-edge physics relates to consciousness, spirituality, and mental health? In this episode, we nerd out with Dr. Klebert Feitosa—professor an experimental physicist at James Madison University. We break down big ideas like quantum mechanics and soft-matter physics in a way that even a 10‑year‑old can understand—and we explore how these concepts intersect with faith, consciousness, and emotional resilience. From the classroom to the cosmos, this is a fun, enlightening dive into why science. and its deeper implications, matters to all of us.Dr. Klebert Feitosa is a professor of physics...2025-07-101h 22Two Therapists At A BarSurviving Your BossIn this episode, we dig into one of the trickiest parts of work life: navigating your relationship with your boss. Whether you have a supportive supervisor or a toxic micromanager, the dynamic you have with your boss can make or break your experience. We talk about the power structures at play, how to manage up with integrity, and what strategies and mindsets can help you stay grounded. 2025-07-031h 00Two Therapists At A BarMental Health in Law Enforcement with Matthew HandIn this episode, we sit down with First Sergeant Matt Hand of the Virginia State Police to talk about the human side of law enforcement. Matt shares stories from his 20+ year career—from high-speed chases to moments of trauma—and opens up about the mental health toll that often goes unspoken. We discuss the myths surrounding cops and therapy, the pressures of the job, and why vulnerability might be one of the most powerful tools an officer can have. Here's a look into mental health behind the badge.Matt Hand is a First Sergeant with...2025-06-261h 17Two Therapists At A BarLessons from FatherhoodIn this Father’s Day episode, David interviews Dale about his journey into fatherhood. Was being a dad always part of the plan? What shaped his desire to become a father and what keeps him going now as a dad of four? Dale opens up about the lessons, struggles, and surprises he’s faced along the way, how his own story shaped his parenting.Questions & Feedback Form Get 10% OFF your next Neuro order with discount code TWOTHERAPISTSATABAR at checkout: neurogum.com/TWOTHERAPISTSATABARGet 15% off your OLIPOP order using this link and enter the promo code SODALOVE at checkout.2025-06-191h 18Two Therapists At A BarMaking Sense of Mental Illness & Faith with Reed RichardiIn this episode, we’re joined by Reed Richardi to explore the complex and deeply personal intersection of mental health, faith, and religion. Reed shares his own journey and how he approaches these topics as a pastor. We explore big questions like:How much of my healing is up to me—and how much is up to God?What does accountability look like when someone is mentally unwell?Can mental illness block spiritual growth?What if I’m having intrusive thoughts about God?Why hasn’t God healed me?Whether you’re wrestling with your own m...2025-06-121h 27Two Therapists At A BarLetting Go of People-PleasingWhy do we people please? In this episode, we get personal about our experiences with people pleasing, both growing up and more recently. We unpack the hidden motives behind it and why it’s not the same as kindness. We also talk about what's helped us grow beyond it, set healthier boundaries, and learn to show up more honestly in our relationships.Questions & Feedback Form Get 10% OFF your next Neuro order with discount code TWOTHERAPISTSATABAR at checkout: neurogum.com/TWOTHERAPISTSATABARGet 15% off your OLIPOP order using this link and enter the promo code SODALOVE at check2025-06-0558 min
Two Therapists At A BarWhen Grief Breaks You (& What Comes After) with Gene FoughtIn this episode, we talk about the kind of grief that shatters a life—and what comes after. We’re joined by our very first guest, Gene Fought, who shares his story of unimaginable loss: the death of his daughter to suicide. Through his story, we explore what it means to grieve, whether there’s a wrong or right way to grieve, how faith and loss can coexist, and how to support others when they’re in the depths of pain. This is a raw, honest, and hopeful conversation about heartbreak and finding meaning after tragedy.Gene Fought w...2025-05-291h 29
Two Therapists At A BarPrivacy vs. Secrecy In A RelationshipNOTE: A brief section of the episode around 03:46 was lost, where we began discussing how privacy is viewed in different cultures. Thanks for your understanding—we’ll revisit it soon!In this episode, we explore the subtle but important difference between privacy and secrecy—and why one protects relationships while the other quietly destroys them. We talk about how this tension shows up in relationships. What should be kept private? When does that privacy cross the line into hiding? And how can you tell the difference in your own relationship? We’ll also share how to b...2025-05-2246 minTwo Therapists At A BarWhy We're All MedicatedIn this episode, we go deeper into the conversation that started with ADHD, this time focusing on medication. What actually counts as medication? Is it only what’s prescribed by a doctor, or is it anything we use to change how we feel, focus, or function? We explore how broad that definition really is, the staggering statistics around medication use in the U.S., and what that might say about our culture. We share our personal takes on what’s helpful, what’s harmful, and why we need to be more thoughtful about how we define and use “medication.”2025-05-151h 18
Two Therapists At A BarDoes Everyone Have ADHD Now?It seems like everyone is talking about ADHD lately but does that mean everyone actually has it? In this episode, we explore the growing conversation around ADHD: Are more people being accurately diagnosed, or are we confusing normal struggles with clinical symptoms? We talk about Dale’s experience learning he had ADHD as an adult, how he manages it, and what helped most: medication, supplements, and/or lifestyle changes? We also unpack why so many people are just now discovering ADHD later in life, and whether having a diagnosis is helpful or limiting.Get 10% OF...2025-05-081h 23
Two Therapists At A BarIs This Abuse Or Is This Just Conflict?In this episode, we explore a tough but important question: Am I being abused, or is this just conflict? We unpack where the line is between healthy disagreement and emotional harm, whether abuse can be unintentional, and how to recognize the difference. We also ask: Are we all capable of being abusive? And how do we engage in conflict without crossing that line? 2025-05-011h 07
Two Therapists At A BarAddiction & Relationships: How Do You Know If They’ll Really Change?You’ve heard the promises: “I’ll change.” “This was the last time.” But nothing’s different. In this episode, we speak to those loving someone with an addiction and the addicted individual. How do you know if change is actually possible? How do you tell the difference between hope and denial? You’ll learn what to look for beyond words and what the change process really involves. If you're tired of the cycle, confused about what to believe, or just trying to protect your peace, this conversation is for you.00:00 Dale hates flies & other Africa stor...2025-04-241h 07Two Therapists At A BarCan Therapists Be Truly Objective? & Other Therapy Myths ExposedIn this episode, we ask each other a simple question: Why do we do what we do? That sparks a deeper conversation about the heart of therapy. Is it just about fixing problems—or is there something more meaningful at play? We share our personal answers and explore whether a therapist’s personal beliefs matter, and if true objectivity is even possible. We also take on a common question: Should therapists give advice—and when is it actually helpful?00:00 Intro03:10 Is the goal of therapy to eliminate suffering?07:30 Meaningless vs meanin...2025-04-171h 04
Two Therapists At A BarMom, Wife or Daughter: Who Gets Top Priority?Who comes first in a man's life, his mother, his wife, or his daughter? In this episode, we explore this trending dilemma, the most common answers we’ve seen, and share our own takes. Using principles from family systems theory and relationship science, we dive into the dynamics behind each role, the emotional weight of the question, and why it hits so hard. 00:00 Intro01:14 Dale's blue lipstick06:35 Choosing between mom, wife or daughter12:40 Why is "wife" never chosen as top priority?16:39 Spouse vs. Kids47:11 Sp...2025-04-1055 minTwo Therapists At A BarSo...You Failed. Now What?Failure is inevitable but what do you do after it happens? In this episode, we talk about what failure really is, the different levels of failure (from minor slip-ups to life-altering moments), and whether there's actually any benefit to falling short. We also share some practical approaches for processing failure, learning from it, and moving forward.2025-04-041h 08Two Therapists At A BarHow to Have Hard Conversations with FriendsWhy is it so hard to have honest conversations with friends? In this episode, we unpack the unique dynamics of friendship that make difficult conversations feel so loaded, and why avoiding them can hurt more in the long run. We share real examples from our own lives, explore when it’s necessary to speak up, how to bring things up respectfully, and how to listen well, even when you don’t agree. 2025-03-271h 07Two Therapists At A BarIs Self-Care Overrated?Is self-care overrated or are we just doing it wrong? In this episode, we break down common myths about self-care, the ways we often sabotage our own self-care routines, and what really makes self-care effective. We also share how starting jiu-jitsu became a form of self-care for both of us, and explore what elements create a meaningful and sustainable self-care practice. If you’ve ever felt like self-care isn’t working, this conversation is for you.00:00 Intro01:09 Dale’s pedicure experience03:50 How do we define good self-care?07:58 Why do we find oursel...2025-03-201h 02Two Therapists At A BarAsk A Therapist: BetterHelp, Calming Anxiety, Self-Diagnosing & MoreIn this special Q&A episode, we’re diving into your questions! We discuss online therapy vs. in-person therapy, how therapists decide when to listen vs. challenge a client, and what to do when your sense of purpose is shaken—like after losing a job. We also explore concerns around “over-therapizing,” self-diagnosis, and the fear of being labeled in therapy. Plus, we share practical ways to check in with yourself emotionally and physically when you feel anxious or stuck.We couldn’t get to every question, but we’d love to hear more from you! Drop your questions or...2025-03-131h 04Two Therapists At A BarIs Sex A Want Or A Need?Get 15% off your OLIPOP order using this link and enter the promo code SODALOVE at checkout. In this episode, we explore the unique fulfillment sex provides and whether it’s a want or a need. Can we ever thrive without it? We break down the difference between lust and eros, the role of intimacy in sex, and whether sex can ever be just sex—is casual sex ever truly casual? We also discuss the challenges couples face in sexual fulfillment and when sex reaches its greatest potential in a relationship.00:00 Intro02:32 Is sex a want...2025-03-061h 00Two Therapists At A BarModern Masculinity: What It Means to Be a Man in the 21st CenturyGet 15% off your OLIPOP order using this link and enter the promo code SODALOVE at checkout. Is masculinity under attack, evolving, or just misunderstood? What does it mean to be a man in the 21st century? In this episode, we break down masculinity, exploring how men have embodied manhood in the past, the role of rites of passage, and why masculinity vs. femininity is a false dichotomy. We also dive into the high-value man concept, toxic masculinity, and what’s really at stake for men today. 00:00 Intro02:55 How do we de...2025-02-281h 15Two Therapists At A BarHow to Find the Right TherapistFinding the right therapist can feel overwhelming—but it’s one of the most important decisions you can make for your mental health. In this episode, two therapists break down how to choose the right therapist, why knowing your goals is crucial, and what actually makes therapy successful. We also share our own experiences searching for therapy, discuss how to tell if therapy is working, whether agreeing with your therapist’s worldview matters, and how to pick between a psychiatrist, psychologist, LMFT, LPC, or LCSW. Whether you’re new to therapy or looking to switch, this epi...2025-02-2155 minTwo Therapists At A BarWhy Modern Dating Sucks (And What To Do Next)In this Valentine’s Day special, we’re tackling why dating feels harder than ever—and what to do about it. With apps, social media, shifting expectations and gender dynamics, modern dating is more complicated than ever before. We discuss the big trends in 2025, the reality of hypergamy (dating up in status or resources), and why so many people feel stuck. We’ll share a practical starting point to successfully navigate the dating world and build a meaningful relationship.2025-02-1251 minTwo Therapists At A BarWhy Your Life Feels Boring (And How to Fix It)Why do we feel restless in our own lives, like we should be somewhere else, doing something more? In this episode, we break down the feeling of boredom and dissatisfaction with ordinary life, using an apt Jerry Seinfeld stand-up clip as a launch point. We explore whether this restlessness is a modern problem or just part of being human, why patience matters, and how embracing the ordinary can actually lead to a richer, more meaningful life. Plus, we dive into the power of myth and story in transforming the way we see our everyday experiences.2025-02-0558 minTwo Therapists At A BarThe Brutal Truth About MarriageIn this episode, we discuss the unfiltered truth about marriage and why it’s not for the faint of heart. We challenge the fairy tale narratives, explore why real love often feels like a battle, and reveal what makes it all worth it. Whether you're in the trenches of commitment or preparing for the road ahead, this conversation will help you navigate the struggles and come out stronger.2025-01-3059 minTwo Therapists At A BarThe Upside of Self-JudgmentIn this episode, we're tackling the voice in your head that's never quite satisfied. We challenge common beliefs about self-criticism, reveal how judgment might actually be useful when framed correctly, and explore the all too familiar world of perfectionism and high achievement. 2025-01-2356 min
Two Therapists At A BarIs Modern Therapy Overrated?In the debut episode of "Two Therapists At A Bar," we're exploring the question: Is modern therapy overrated? Join us as we dive into the explosion of "therapy speak" on social media, examine whether therapists are truly serving their clients effectively, and explore what real therapy looks like beyond the Instagram quotes and TikTok trends. As practicing therapists ourselves, we're pulling back the curtain on our own profession, serving up our honest thoughts and uncomfortable truths about the state of modern therapy. 2025-01-1556 min