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Further CommentsMind in the Mirror (ft Dr Megan Ma)In this riveting episode of 'Further Comments', hosts Damien Riehl and Horace Wu welcome Dr. Megan Ma from Stanford to delve into the intersection of AI and legal practice. They discuss Megan's work on multi-agent simulations for training young attorneys, the significance of personas in AI models, and the future of AI in legal professions. This episode offers a wealth of knowledge on how cutting-edge AI research is reshaping the legal field. 00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:41 Guest Introduction: Dr. Megan Ma01:31 Personal News and AI Analogies05:09 Research on Multi-Agent Simulations09:02 Training and Cu...2025-06-2250 min
Further CommentsLegal Knowledge and the Magic Easy ButtonIn this episode of Further Comments, hosts Damien and Horace dive into the state of knowledge management (KM) in the legal industry, discussing why traditional KM practices fall short and how artificial intelligence (AI) can revolutionize the field. Horace shares insights from interviews with KM leaders and discusses the implications of AI innovations like large language models on the future of legal practice. The episode covers the challenges of data organization, the role of AI in legal support, and the importance of capturing data exhaust. They also explore the concept of 'good enough' AI tools and the potential for...2025-06-0443 min
Further CommentsDo AIs Dream of Electric ElephantsJoin hosts Damien and Horace in their deep dive into the current state and future of AI in the legal sector. They tackle three major topics: (1) the hype cycle of AI in tech, (2) the using autonomous agentsin legal practices, and (3) the feasibility of achieving Artificial General Intelligence (AGI). Whether you're a legal professional, tech enthusiast, or just curious about the intersection of AI and law, this episode is a good pulse check on the zeitgeist. 00:00 The Elephants in the Room01:34 Understanding the Gartner Hype Cycle01:46 Debating the Hype: Individual vs...2025-05-1544 min
Further CommentsCan you even Ikigai without AI? (ft Nick Abrahams)In this episode of Further Comments, Horace and Damien is joined by Nick Abrahams from Norton Rose Fulbright. Nick shares his unconventional career journey, from working in a big law firm in Sydney, studying at USC Film School, to becoming a Hollywood studio executive and then a technology lawyer in Australia. The discussion explores what it takes to be a successful lawyer, the unique perspective gained from varied career paths, and the significance of purpose. They also delve into the evolving role of lawyers in the age of AI, the importance of human expertise, and the future of legal...2025-05-0145 min
Further CommentsEnter Misters Tech Giant, Esq.Join Damien Riehl and Horace as they kick off Season 2 with an in-depth discussion about the intersection of Big Tech and Big Law. They explore the recent news of Freshfields partnering with Google for generative AI, the potential of AI to disrupt legal services, and the impacts of large language models on the industry. They also delve into the future of law firms, the evolving role of legal tech companies, and the broader societal implications of AI-driven legal services.00:00 Big Tech and Big Law00:46 AI's Impact on Legal Industry01:21 The AI Tsunami02:52 F...2025-04-1743 min
Further CommentsEverything We Didn't Learn at Legalweek 2025In the finale episode of season 1, Damien Riehl and Horace Wu delve deep into the impact of large language models, agents, and the rapidly evolving landscape of legal tech. Recorded live from a New York City park, they discuss their experiences from Legalweek, the future of legal startups, the role of VCs, and how AI is transforming workflows. Explore themes like knowledge management, the integration of proprietary data, and the potential revolution in providing legal services. Whether you’re from a law firm, in-house counsel, or a legal tech vendor, this episode offers key insights into navigating the...2025-03-3145 min
Further CommentsHow I Met Legora (ft Helder Santos)In this episode of 'Further Comments,' hosts Damien and Horace welcome Helder Santos from Bird and Bird to discuss the firm's decision to roll out the Gen AI platform, Legora. They explore the pilot process, decision-making factors, and the blend of technology with traditional law practices. Helder shares insights into the cooperation between startups and established legal entities, the challenges and successes in adopting AI, and the evolving marketplace. They also touch on the influence of AI on billing models, access to justice, and the importance of transparency. If you're fascinated by the evolution of...2025-03-1727 min
Further CommentsThe one about selling stories (ft Ben Chiriboga)In this episode of Further Comments, hosts Damien and Horace are joined by Ben Chiriboga from Nexl to discuss how to effectively sell to lawyers in the age of artificial intelligence. They explore the dynamics of the crowded legal tech market, the role of storytelling in sales, and how Nexl’s CRM solution addresses the unique needs of law firms. The conversation delves into the complexities of relationship intelligence, the importance of data, and the intersecting roles within law firms. Tune in to hear valuable insights on demonstrating value to skeptical lawyers and the future of legal tech....2025-02-2835 min
Further CommentsA Love Letter to Document Automation and Process Improvement (ft Catherine Bamford)In this episode of Further Comments, we are joined by the 'Duchess of Document Automation', Catherine Bamford. Catherine shares her journey and expertise in legal tech, particularly in document automation. We dive into the nuances of document automation, discussing the adoption cycles within law firms, the importance of continuous improvement, and the challenges and solutions brought by large language models (LLMs). Catherine, Damien, and Horace explore how LLMs can augment document automation, the ethics of legal tech processes, and the evolving landscape of legal tech solutions. Catherine's clarity and depth make this episode a must-watch fo...2025-02-1450 min
Further CommentsDeepSeek and the Seven Dwarf Problems for LegalTech (ft Joe Rayment)DeepSeek has been all the rage among the tech community in January 2025. In this episode, Damien and Horace are joined by special guest Joe Rayment, CEO of Automatise, to explore the implications of DeepSeek. The discussion covers a range of topics including the geopolitical aspects, build vs buy considerations, licensing and terms of use, cost reduction, data privacy, vendor lock-in, and the skills gap for law firms and legal tech vendors. The conversation delves into the potential impacts, benefits, and challenges that DeepSeek poses for the legal tech industry.2025-02-0342 min
Further CommentsShould Auld Time Billing Be Forgot (ft Adrian Parlow)Join Horace and Damien as they return from a break to a deep dive discussion with Adrian Parlow, founder and CEO of Point One, on the significance and future of timekeeping in law firms. They explore the persistence of the billable hour, the potential shift towards flat fees, and the role of AI in automating time entries. The conversation delves into how accurate time data can transform law firm efficiency, pricing, and the overall practice, with a spotlight on standardization through systems like SALI.00:00 Welcome Back!02:00 The Future of the Billable Hour04:18 The...2025-01-1435 min
Further CommentsThese Little Piggies Went To The LegalTech Market (ft Stephanie Wilkins)In this episode of Further Comments, we welcome legal tech expert Stephanie Wilkins to discuss the highlights and transformative trends in legal technology from 2024. We reflect on the TLTF conference in Miami, explore the adoption of AI in the legal industry, and contemplate the evolving market dynamics, including the rise of the mid-market law firms. The discussion also covers the future predictions for 2025, user experiences, and the impact of generative AI on legal practices. Tune in for another dive into the world of legal tech!00:00 Introduction00:29 Recap of the TLTF Summit01:13 I...2024-12-1633 min
Further CommentsA Tag Astray Keeps Adopters AwayIn this episode of 'Further Comments', hosts Horace Wu and Damien Riehl engage in a lively discussion on the eve of Thanksgiving (which coincides with Horace's birthday) about increased adoption of generative AI in legal practices, tagging systems in data management, and the complexities of implementing such systems effectively. They also explore the implications of legal technologies as integral components of society's operating system. 2024-12-0333 min
Further CommentsFear and Leveraging Las Agents (ft Jason Barnwell)In this episode of 'Further Comments', hosts Damien, Horace, and guest Jason delve deeply into the topic of AI agents. Jason Barnwell, a thought leader with expertise in law and engineering, discusses the transformative potential of AI in the legal industry, comparing the ways engineers and lawyers approach problem-solving. Key topics include the four types of AI agents—engineering models, products, legal concepts, and philosophical constructs—and their market confusion. Conversation also touches on the Rumsfeld matrix to categorize known and unknown elements in legal tasks, highlighting how AI can automate known, routine tasks while handling uncertain, complex actions caut...2024-11-1851 min
Further CommentsYou Gotta Fight For Your Right To Standardize Language (ft Electra Japonas)2024-11-0542 min
Further CommentsTrust Me, This Is The Worst I'll Ever Be (ft Conan Hines)2024-10-1544 min
Further CommentsDifferentiations in the Great Convergence of 20242024-10-0531 min
Further CommentsHorses, Cars, and How to Charge an AI Billable Hour2024-09-1528 min
Further CommentsThe Imminent Demise of Legal Chatbots, Maybe2024-09-1333 min