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Two Therapists At A BarREPLAY: When Grief Breaks You (& What Comes After) with Gene FoughtFor the month of December, we’re replaying our top 5 episodes of the year—this one comes in at number 3:In this episode, we talk about the kind of grief that shatters a life—and what comes after. We’re joined by our very first guest, Gene Fought, who shares his story of unimaginable loss: the death of his daughter to suicide. Through his story, we explore what it means to grieve, whether there’s a wrong or right way to grieve, how faith and loss can coexist, and how to support others when they’re in...
2025-12-181h 29Two Therapists At A BarREPLAY: The Brutal Truth About MarriageFor the month of December, we’re replaying our top 5 episodes of the year—this one comes in at number 4:In this episode, we discuss the unfiltered truth about marriage and why it’s not for the faint of heart. We challenge the fairy tale narratives, explore why real love often feels like a battle, and reveal what makes it all worth it. Whether you're in the trenches of commitment or preparing for the road ahead, this conversation will help you navigate the struggles and come out stronger.
2025-12-1159 minTwo Therapists At A BarREPLAY: Modern Masculinity: What It Means to Be a Man in the 21st CenturyFor the month of December, we’re replaying our top five episodes of the year—this episode one comes in at number five.Is masculinity under attack, evolving, or just misunderstood? What does it mean to be a man in the 21st century? In this episode, we break down masculinity, exploring how men have embodied manhood in the past, the role of rites of passage, and why masculinity vs. femininity is a false dichotomy. We also dive into the high-value man concept, toxic masculinity, and what’s really at stake for men today.
2025-12-041h 15Two Therapists At A BarWhat the Wild Teaches Men with Chachi AvirettIn this episode, we sit down with Chachi Avirett, a wilderness guide and men’s mentor with more than 4,000 days spent leading men through the backcountry—physically and spiritually. We talk about why the wilderness has a unique power to shape men, what today’s culture gets wrong about masculine formation, and why most men’s retreats barely scratch the surface. Chachi shares the heart behind Training Ground Tennessee, how adventure creates space for identity and calling to emerge, and what he would tell men who feel “too old” for a program like his but still long for growth, depth, and c...
2025-11-271h 30Two Therapists At A BarInside Gender Transition Medicine: An Anesthesiologist’s View with Dr. Tim CasiasIn this episode, we sit down with Dr. Tim Casias, an anesthesiologist whose training spans pediatrics, anesthesia, pediatric anesthesia, and pediatric chronic pain. Now the Director of Anesthesia at Aiken Regional Medical Center, Dr. Casias shares how his clinical experience led him into one of the most complex ethical debates in modern medicine: the use of anesthesia in gender transition surgeries.We talk through why he ultimately chose not to participate in these procedures—what he learned from years in pediatric and chronic pain medicine, the clinical concerns that informed his decision, and the ethical framework he ap...
2025-11-201h 19Two Therapists At A BarCan You Be Friends with Your Therapist? - Part 2In this follow-up , we continue unpacking the unique relationship between therapist and client—why it can feel so personal, even deeper than friendship, and what makes it distinct. We talk about the qualities that make therapy such a powerful connection, and why clear boundaries don’t necessarily mean emotional distance. We also shift the conversation toward values in therapy—how they shape the process, what happens when values differ, and the therapist’s role in helping clients find clarity and alignment.
2025-11-131h 01Two Therapists At A BarCan You Be Friends with Your Therapist? - Part 1In this episode, we dive into one of the most common—and complicated—questions in therapy: Can you be friends with your therapist? We explore the importance of professional boundaries, what happens when therapy relationships get too personal, and why connection and boundaries both matter. We also talk about the unique challenges of living in a small town, where therapists and clients often cross paths at church, work, or in the community.
2025-11-061h 01Two Therapists At A BarHas AI Broken Education? (feat. Dr. Tron Wilder)In this episode, Dale and I sit down with Dale’s former graduate school professor, Dr. Tron Wilder, to explore the intersections of faith, education, and psychology in the age of AI. Tron shares his journey into academia and the challenges professors face as artificial intelligence reshapes the learning landscape. We also talk about his faith journey and how he reconciles his Christian worldview with the realities of teaching psychology at a faith-based university. It’s a thoughtful conversation about belief, purpose, and what it means to educate minds in a changing world.Dr. Tron...
2025-10-301h 33Two Therapists At A BarWhen Does Selfishness Become Narcissism?In this episode, we unpack a tricky question: Is it selfishness, or is it narcissism? We explore where narcissism comes from, how it differs from ordinary self-interest, and why the word gets thrown around so loosely today. We also talk about how to recognize the difference in ourselves and others—and what can be done about it.
2025-10-231h 00Two Therapists At A BarEngineering Life Through Brain Cancer with Christopher GeorgeIn this episode, we sit down with Chris George—founder and CEO of Sproutly—to trace the arc of his story, from growing up as a homeschooled missionary kid in the jungles of the Philippines, to his transition back to life and studies in the U.S., to building a successful software company. Today, Chris is facing terminal brain cancer, and he reflects with honesty and depth on what this diagnosis has taught him about purpose, resilience, and living fully.Chris George is the founder and CEO of Sproutly, a software company he launched in 2...
2025-10-161h 25Two Therapists At A BarResponding to Charlie Kirk’s Death — Part 2In Part Two of our reflection on Charlie Kirk’s death, we shift to the bigger question of whether we can still agree to disagree—and what it would take to bring back civil conversation. From there, we explore forgiveness through the lens of Erika Kirk’s response—asking whether forgiveness can be genuine, performative, or something in between.
2025-10-091h 02Two Therapists At A BarResponding to Charlie Kirk’s Death — Part 1In this episode, we sit with the reactions—our own and others’—to Charlie Kirk’s death. Social media has made it possible for people to share thoughts and feelings publicly that once would have stayed private, and we talk about the impact of that, especially the harmful implications.
2025-10-0256 minTwo Therapists At A BarKenya vs. America: Culture, Leadership & Relationships with Chris MureithiIn this episode, David and Dale sit down with David’s childhood friend, Chris Mureithi, our first international guest, to explore the cultural contrasts between Kenya and the United States. Chris shares his perspective on parenting, leadership, and romantic relationships, offering both critique and appreciation for each culture’s unique strengths and blind spots. With humor, energy, and insight, Chris invites us to rethink how culture and leadership shapes the way we lead, love, and raise the next generation.Chris Mureithi is an award-winning Leadership and Motivational Speaker, author of three books, and international trai...
2025-09-251h 10Two Therapists At A Bar"The Body Does NOT Keep The Score" with Dr. Mike ScheeringaIn recent years, a surge of work—from best-selling books like The Body Keeps the Score to documentaries, podcasts, and professional trainings— have shaped how the public and mental health profession think about trauma and the body. But what if the science isn’t as settled as we think?In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Michael Scheeringa, a leading child and adolescent trauma psychiatrist, researcher, and author of The Body Does Not Keep The Score & The Trouble with Trauma. Dr. Scheeringa challenges popular narratives around “toxic stress,” trauma-induced brain damage, and trauma-informed ideology, bringing a data-drive...
2025-09-182h 18Two Therapists At A BarThe Curse of KnowledgeIn this episode, we explore the curse of knowledge—how knowing something can sometimes hold us back instead of helping us move forward. From the illusion of mastery to the gap between what we know and what we actually live out, we talk about how knowledge can create blind spots in relationships, work, and personal growth—and what we can do to break free from it.
2025-09-121h 09Two Therapists At A BarThe Creative Fight Against Sex Trafficking with Sabrina-Dorman AndrewIn this powerful episode, we sit with Sabrina Dorman‑Andrew, founder of New Creation VA, to explore how one broken building—a former adult store—became a beacon of hope. We dive into the extraordinary journey of transforming darkness into dignity, creating dignified work for survivors, and building a nonprofit that combines prevention education, survivor restoration, and global partnerships. Sabrina shares the pivotal moments that sparked her mission, the challenges of breathing life into a vision, and how we all can play a meaningful part in counteracting human trafficking.Sabrina Dorman-Andrew is the co-founder and ex...
2025-09-041h 39Two Therapists At A BarWhat Makes an Apology Real?In this episode, we unpack why “sorry” so often falls flat after a grievance. We talk how real repair requires more than trying to “pay for your sins” with acts of guilt or obsequiousness. We also explore forgiveness on the part of the hurt partner, making amends, and what it takes to rebuild trust after hurting your partner.
2025-08-281h 02Two Therapists At A BarADHD & Parenting as a Therapist with Carrie LandisIn this heartfelt conversation, we reconnect with Carrie Landis—an early-career friend of Dale’s and now the founder and director of Riverside Family Support. Carrie opens up about building her private therapeutic practice and the unique joys and challenges of parenting as a therapist. Together we discuss the journey of discovering ADHD in adulthood, parenting through the lens of attachment, and much more.Note: Unfortunately, the first part of the episode wasn’t recorded, but we join the discussion already underway.Carrie Landis, LCSW, MAT, is the founder and di...
2025-08-231h 24Two Therapists At A BarWhen “Trying Your Best” Isn’t EnoughWhat happens when you’ve poured in all the effort you think you have… but it still doesn’t feel like enough? In this episode, we take inspiration from Kate Hall’s article Maybe You’re Not Actually Trying and dive deeper into the layered realities of effort. We talk about the different ways “trying” can show up, why we sometimes mistake exhaustion for progress, and how to identify the hidden opportunities we might be ignoring.
2025-08-1449 minTwo Therapists At A BarER Stories, Mental Health & Burnout with Dr. Jon Van OrnamIn this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Jon Van Ornam—an emergency medicine physician. We talk about his experience on the front lines of the ER, how he navigates mental health crises in patients, and why many doctors avoid getting help themselves. We also dive into personality traits in medicine, the link between narcissism and leadership in healthcare, and the supplement protocol he personally uses to stay mentally and physically sharp. Dr. Jonathan D. Van Ornam, MD, MBA, is a board-certified emergency medicine physician based in Boston, Massachusetts.
2025-08-071h 46Two Therapists At A BarMoving Forward After BetrayalIn this episode, we delve into the experience of betrayal in relationships—what it feels like, why it impacts us so profoundly, and how we can heal. We explore how to process the pain and grow amidst it, whether or not the person who hurt you ever changes.
2025-07-3158 minTwo Therapists At A BarFrom The Ground Up: Farming & Mental Health with Philip WiygulIn this episode, we sit down with our friend Philip Wiygul, a lifelong outdoorsman and agricultural educator, to talk about his journey into farming and how he’s blended his love of the land with a passion for teaching. We explore the highs and lows of farm life, career reflections on purpose and resilience, and how mental health shows up in both quiet moments and busy seasons. Philip Wiygul serves as the Agricultural Director at Shenandoah Valley Academy, where he leads hands-on food production for both the school and local community. A lifelong outdoorsman, Ph...
2025-07-241h 25Two Therapists At A BarPorn in A Marriage: What No One Talks AboutIn this episode, we finally dive deep into a topic we’ve lightly touched on before—pornography, unwanted sexual behavior, and sex addiction. We focus especially on how these aspects show up in marriages and long-term relationships. What exactly is sex addiction, and is it even real? Is porn use within a marriage ever healthy? How can partners tell the difference between occasional use, compulsive patterns, and full-blown addiction?We explore the emotional toll on both parties, what accountability and recovery can look like, and what betrayed partners can do to support themselves. Whether you’re personally impact...
2025-07-171h 23Two Therapists At A BarWhere Physics Meets Our Inner Worlds with Dr. Klebert FeitosaCurious about how cutting-edge physics relates to consciousness, spirituality, and mental health? In this episode, we nerd out with Dr. Klebert Feitosa—professor an experimental physicist at James Madison University. We break down big ideas like quantum mechanics and soft-matter physics in a way that even a 10‑year‑old can understand—and we explore how these concepts intersect with faith, consciousness, and emotional resilience. From the classroom to the cosmos, this is a fun, enlightening dive into why science. and its deeper implications, matters to all of us.Dr. Klebert Feitosa is a professor of physics...
2025-07-101h 22Two Therapists At A BarSurviving Your BossIn this episode, we dig into one of the trickiest parts of work life: navigating your relationship with your boss. Whether you have a supportive supervisor or a toxic micromanager, the dynamic you have with your boss can make or break your experience. We talk about the power structures at play, how to manage up with integrity, and what strategies and mindsets can help you stay grounded.
2025-07-031h 00Two Therapists At A BarMental Health in Law Enforcement with Matthew HandIn this episode, we sit down with First Sergeant Matt Hand of the Virginia State Police to talk about the human side of law enforcement. Matt shares stories from his 20+ year career—from high-speed chases to moments of trauma—and opens up about the mental health toll that often goes unspoken. We discuss the myths surrounding cops and therapy, the pressures of the job, and why vulnerability might be one of the most powerful tools an officer can have. Here's a look into mental health behind the badge.Matt Hand is a First Sergeant with...
2025-06-261h 17Two Therapists At A BarLessons from FatherhoodIn this Father’s Day episode, David interviews Dale about his journey into fatherhood. Was being a dad always part of the plan? What shaped his desire to become a father and what keeps him going now as a dad of four? Dale opens up about the lessons, struggles, and surprises he’s faced along the way, how his own story shaped his parenting.Questions & Feedback Form Get 10% OFF your next Neuro order with discount code TWOTHERAPISTSATABAR at checkout: neurogum.com/TWOTHERAPISTSATABARGet 15% off your OLIPOP order using this link and enter the promo code SODALOVE at checkout.
2025-06-191h 18Two Therapists At A BarMaking Sense of Mental Illness & Faith with Reed RichardiIn this episode, we’re joined by Reed Richardi to explore the complex and deeply personal intersection of mental health, faith, and religion. Reed shares his own journey and how he approaches these topics as a pastor. We explore big questions like:How much of my healing is up to me—and how much is up to God?What does accountability look like when someone is mentally unwell?Can mental illness block spiritual growth?What if I’m having intrusive thoughts about God?Why hasn’t God healed me?Whether you’re wrestling with your own m...
2025-06-121h 27Two Therapists At A BarLetting Go of People-PleasingWhy do we people please? In this episode, we get personal about our experiences with people pleasing, both growing up and more recently. We unpack the hidden motives behind it and why it’s not the same as kindness. We also talk about what's helped us grow beyond it, set healthier boundaries, and learn to show up more honestly in our relationships.Questions & Feedback Form Get 10% OFF your next Neuro order with discount code TWOTHERAPISTSATABAR at checkout: neurogum.com/TWOTHERAPISTSATABARGet 15% off your OLIPOP order using this link and enter the promo code SODALOVE at check
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Two Therapists At A BarWhen Grief Breaks You (& What Comes After) with Gene FoughtIn this episode, we talk about the kind of grief that shatters a life—and what comes after. We’re joined by our very first guest, Gene Fought, who shares his story of unimaginable loss: the death of his daughter to suicide. Through his story, we explore what it means to grieve, whether there’s a wrong or right way to grieve, how faith and loss can coexist, and how to support others when they’re in the depths of pain. This is a raw, honest, and hopeful conversation about heartbreak and finding meaning after tragedy.Gene Fought w...
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Two Therapists At A BarPrivacy vs. Secrecy In A RelationshipNOTE: A brief section of the episode around 03:46 was lost, where we began discussing how privacy is viewed in different cultures. Thanks for your understanding—we’ll revisit it soon!In this episode, we explore the subtle but important difference between privacy and secrecy—and why one protects relationships while the other quietly destroys them. We talk about how this tension shows up in relationships. What should be kept private? When does that privacy cross the line into hiding? And how can you tell the difference in your own relationship? We’ll also share how to b...
2025-05-2246 minTwo Therapists At A BarWhy We're All MedicatedIn this episode, we go deeper into the conversation that started with ADHD, this time focusing on medication. What actually counts as medication? Is it only what’s prescribed by a doctor, or is it anything we use to change how we feel, focus, or function? We explore how broad that definition really is, the staggering statistics around medication use in the U.S., and what that might say about our culture. We share our personal takes on what’s helpful, what’s harmful, and why we need to be more thoughtful about how we define and use “medication.”
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Two Therapists At A BarDoes Everyone Have ADHD Now?It seems like everyone is talking about ADHD lately but does that mean everyone actually has it? In this episode, we explore the growing conversation around ADHD: Are more people being accurately diagnosed, or are we confusing normal struggles with clinical symptoms? We talk about Dale’s experience learning he had ADHD as an adult, how he manages it, and what helped most: medication, supplements, and/or lifestyle changes? We also unpack why so many people are just now discovering ADHD later in life, and whether having a diagnosis is helpful or limiting.Get 10% OF...
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Two Therapists At A BarIs This Abuse Or Is This Just Conflict?In this episode, we explore a tough but important question: Am I being abused, or is this just conflict? We unpack where the line is between healthy disagreement and emotional harm, whether abuse can be unintentional, and how to recognize the difference. We also ask: Are we all capable of being abusive? And how do we engage in conflict without crossing that line?
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Two Therapists At A BarAddiction & Relationships: How Do You Know If They’ll Really Change?You’ve heard the promises: “I’ll change.” “This was the last time.” But nothing’s different. In this episode, we speak to those loving someone with an addiction and the addicted individual. How do you know if change is actually possible? How do you tell the difference between hope and denial? You’ll learn what to look for beyond words and what the change process really involves. If you're tired of the cycle, confused about what to believe, or just trying to protect your peace, this conversation is for you.00:00 Dale hates flies & other Africa stor...
2025-04-241h 07Two Therapists At A BarCan Therapists Be Truly Objective? & Other Therapy Myths ExposedIn this episode, we ask each other a simple question: Why do we do what we do? That sparks a deeper conversation about the heart of therapy. Is it just about fixing problems—or is there something more meaningful at play? We share our personal answers and explore whether a therapist’s personal beliefs matter, and if true objectivity is even possible. We also take on a common question: Should therapists give advice—and when is it actually helpful?00:00 Intro03:10 Is the goal of therapy to eliminate suffering?07:30 Meaningless vs meanin...
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Two Therapists At A BarMom, Wife or Daughter: Who Gets Top Priority?Who comes first in a man's life, his mother, his wife, or his daughter? In this episode, we explore this trending dilemma, the most common answers we’ve seen, and share our own takes. Using principles from family systems theory and relationship science, we dive into the dynamics behind each role, the emotional weight of the question, and why it hits so hard. 00:00 Intro01:14 Dale's blue lipstick06:35 Choosing between mom, wife or daughter12:40 Why is "wife" never chosen as top priority?16:39 Spouse vs. Kids47:11 Sp...
2025-04-1055 minTwo Therapists At A BarSo...You Failed. Now What?Failure is inevitable but what do you do after it happens? In this episode, we talk about what failure really is, the different levels of failure (from minor slip-ups to life-altering moments), and whether there's actually any benefit to falling short. We also share some practical approaches for processing failure, learning from it, and moving forward.
2025-04-041h 08Two Therapists At A BarHow to Have Hard Conversations with FriendsWhy is it so hard to have honest conversations with friends? In this episode, we unpack the unique dynamics of friendship that make difficult conversations feel so loaded, and why avoiding them can hurt more in the long run. We share real examples from our own lives, explore when it’s necessary to speak up, how to bring things up respectfully, and how to listen well, even when you don’t agree.
2025-03-271h 07Two Therapists At A BarIs Self-Care Overrated?Is self-care overrated or are we just doing it wrong? In this episode, we break down common myths about self-care, the ways we often sabotage our own self-care routines, and what really makes self-care effective. We also share how starting jiu-jitsu became a form of self-care for both of us, and explore what elements create a meaningful and sustainable self-care practice. If you’ve ever felt like self-care isn’t working, this conversation is for you.00:00 Intro01:09 Dale’s pedicure experience03:50 How do we define good self-care?07:58 Why do we find oursel...
2025-03-201h 02Two Therapists At A BarAsk A Therapist: BetterHelp, Calming Anxiety, Self-Diagnosing & MoreIn this special Q&A episode, we’re diving into your questions! We discuss online therapy vs. in-person therapy, how therapists decide when to listen vs. challenge a client, and what to do when your sense of purpose is shaken—like after losing a job. We also explore concerns around “over-therapizing,” self-diagnosis, and the fear of being labeled in therapy. Plus, we share practical ways to check in with yourself emotionally and physically when you feel anxious or stuck.We couldn’t get to every question, but we’d love to hear more from you! Drop your questions or...
2025-03-131h 04Two Therapists At A BarIs Sex A Want Or A Need?Get 15% off your OLIPOP order using this link and enter the promo code SODALOVE at checkout. In this episode, we explore the unique fulfillment sex provides and whether it’s a want or a need. Can we ever thrive without it? We break down the difference between lust and eros, the role of intimacy in sex, and whether sex can ever be just sex—is casual sex ever truly casual? We also discuss the challenges couples face in sexual fulfillment and when sex reaches its greatest potential in a relationship.00:00 Intro02:32 Is sex a want...
2025-03-061h 00Two Therapists At A BarModern Masculinity: What It Means to Be a Man in the 21st CenturyGet 15% off your OLIPOP order using this link and enter the promo code SODALOVE at checkout. Is masculinity under attack, evolving, or just misunderstood? What does it mean to be a man in the 21st century? In this episode, we break down masculinity, exploring how men have embodied manhood in the past, the role of rites of passage, and why masculinity vs. femininity is a false dichotomy. We also dive into the high-value man concept, toxic masculinity, and what’s really at stake for men today. 00:00 Intro02:55 How do we de...
2025-02-281h 15Two Therapists At A BarHow to Find the Right TherapistFinding the right therapist can feel overwhelming—but it’s one of the most important decisions you can make for your mental health. In this episode, two therapists break down how to choose the right therapist, why knowing your goals is crucial, and what actually makes therapy successful. We also share our own experiences searching for therapy, discuss how to tell if therapy is working, whether agreeing with your therapist’s worldview matters, and how to pick between a psychiatrist, psychologist, LMFT, LPC, or LCSW. Whether you’re new to therapy or looking to switch, this epi...
2025-02-2155 minTwo Therapists At A BarWhy Modern Dating Sucks (And What To Do Next)In this Valentine’s Day special, we’re tackling why dating feels harder than ever—and what to do about it. With apps, social media, shifting expectations and gender dynamics, modern dating is more complicated than ever before. We discuss the big trends in 2025, the reality of hypergamy (dating up in status or resources), and why so many people feel stuck. We’ll share a practical starting point to successfully navigate the dating world and build a meaningful relationship.
2025-02-1251 minTwo Therapists At A BarWhy Your Life Feels Boring (And How to Fix It)Why do we feel restless in our own lives, like we should be somewhere else, doing something more? In this episode, we break down the feeling of boredom and dissatisfaction with ordinary life, using an apt Jerry Seinfeld stand-up clip as a launch point. We explore whether this restlessness is a modern problem or just part of being human, why patience matters, and how embracing the ordinary can actually lead to a richer, more meaningful life. Plus, we dive into the power of myth and story in transforming the way we see our everyday experiences.
2025-02-0558 minTwo Therapists At A BarThe Brutal Truth About MarriageIn this episode, we discuss the unfiltered truth about marriage and why it’s not for the faint of heart. We challenge the fairy tale narratives, explore why real love often feels like a battle, and reveal what makes it all worth it. Whether you're in the trenches of commitment or preparing for the road ahead, this conversation will help you navigate the struggles and come out stronger.
2025-01-3059 minTwo Therapists At A BarThe Upside of Self-JudgmentIn this episode, we're tackling the voice in your head that's never quite satisfied. We challenge common beliefs about self-criticism, reveal how judgment might actually be useful when framed correctly, and explore the all too familiar world of perfectionism and high achievement.
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Two Therapists At A BarIs Modern Therapy Overrated?In the debut episode of "Two Therapists At A Bar," we're exploring the question: Is modern therapy overrated? Join us as we dive into the explosion of "therapy speak" on social media, examine whether therapists are truly serving their clients effectively, and explore what real therapy looks like beyond the Instagram quotes and TikTok trends. As practicing therapists ourselves, we're pulling back the curtain on our own profession, serving up our honest thoughts and uncomfortable truths about the state of modern therapy.
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Down To Earth with the BurucharasBONUS: Neurodivergence & Relationships with Jeremy and Ilana HamburghIn the final episode of season 4, Callie and David talk with Jeremy and Ilana from mybestsociallife.com. Whether you are on the spectrum, consider yourself neurodivergent, or know someone who is, this episode is for you! We talk about:Jeremy and Illana's career transitions from law and special-ed to helping people on the spectrum find community, make friends, start dating, and find loveHow Jeremy became the "Hitch" for people on the autism spectrum, as mentioned in The AtlanticWhy datin...
2023-12-1551 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasNavigating Relationships With Parents Q&AIn today's episode, Callie and David answer some of your burning questions about navigating adult relationships with parents. Thanks to all of you who took the time to submit questions that include:dealing with your in-law's problematic behaviorhow to relate to and honor step-parentsdealing with an abusive step-parent from another cultureattending therapy to address issues with your parentsand more!--------------------------------We're eager to hear your thoughts on the podcast! Got any...
2023-12-0159 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasGrieving The Death Of A Parent with Miriam OkonkwoThis week, we address a topic often avoided but inevitably encountered—the loss of our parents and navigating the associated grief. This episode features a heartfelt conversation with David's cousin, Miriam, reflecting on the memories and lessons from her grief journey following her father's passing in 2020. Join us as we delve into various approaches to grief, the unique impact of a parent's loss, surprising effects of grief, and more.Learn more about Miriam's professional journey here and f...
2023-11-171h 20Down To Earth with the BurucharasGetting Along with Your In-LawsIn this week's episode, Callie and David open up about their respective relationships with their in-laws, discussing the joys and the risks that in-law relationships can bring. They also share 4 key rules for successfully relating with your in-laws. Join in on the conversation as we unravel the art of balancing love, boundaries, and understanding in the world of in-law relationships.Submit your questions for this season's Q&A episode here: Season 4 Q&A Submission Form-----------...
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The Next Drop OffSacrifices in Relationships ft. David BurucharaSacrifices in Relationships ft. David Buruchara Support the channel: https://www.flowcode.com/page/samuelfrancis Cashapp: https://cash.app/$wearjesusis Paypal: https://paypal.me/wearjesusis?country.x=US&locale.x=en_US Relationships! Some turn out great, some end tragically with heartbreak and pain. How do we successfully navigate them to avoid so much of the drama that plague us today? That’s the burden of this weeks’s conversation with the one and only David Buruchara! He and his wife Callie are the host...
2023-08-221h 17Down To Earth with the BurucharasSeason 4 TrailerCallie and David are back for Season 4! Listen in to find out what relationship topic we'll be exploring this season!--------------------------------We're eager to hear your thoughts on the podcast! Got any questions, topic suggestions, or just want to get in touch? We'd love to hear from you via this quick feedback form: https://tally.so/r/w4Jkgr
2023-08-0402 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasDating Q&AIn today's episode, Callie and David answer some of your burning questions about dating. Thanks to all of you who took the time to submit questions; here are the questions tackled in order:(04:07) Should I still date someone I don’t find attractive? (09:23) On paper, they’re perfect, but there's no chemistry. What do I do?(14:14) When should I bring up my past relationships?(22:08) We agreed to meet but haven’t heard from him. Should I let it go?(28:20) How quickly do you bring up things...
2023-03-311h 19Down To Earth with the BurucharasDTR: Defining The Relationship In DatingIn this episode, Callie & David explore the important but often awkward "defining the relationship" conversation when dating. The DTR conversation can be the crucial difference between intentionally moving forward in a relationship or letting circumstances and faulty assumptions shape your dating experience. Join us as we dive into:When to have the DTR talk and how to initiate it Common fears and misconceptions about DTRTips for handling the conversation with grace and honestyDealing...
2023-03-241h 02Down To Earth with the BurucharasFrom Small Talk To Heartfelt Connection: A Guide To Meaningful Date ConversationsIn this episode, Callie & David talk about conversations to have on dates that can drastically improve your dating experience. They share tips for less awkward interactions and more natural, fun, & meaningful discussions. They also provide helpful tools w/ examples for assessing whether it’s worth going on a 2nd or 3rd date. Join us as we explore:Transitioning from small talk to deep talkConversation topics on a dateDisclaimers vs. explanationsLeading with vulnerability & clarityJ...
2023-03-171h 19Down To Earth with the BurucharasExpanding Your Dating Pool: How To Meet People IRL And OnlineIn this episode, Callie and David share tips and insights on how to meet potential partners within and beyond your current circles. They discuss different places and spaces where many couples first meet but most significantly, they emphasize the importance of approaching dating with a mindset that prioritizes reasonable efforts over immediate results.--------------------------------We're eager to hear your thoughts on the podcast! Got any questions, topic suggestions, or just want to get in t...
2023-03-031h 10Down To Earth with the BurucharasHow Attachment Styles Impact DatingAttachment theory suggests that the quality of our early relationships with caregivers - how we received love - shapes our attachment style, influencing how we form and maintain relationships throughout our lives. In this episode, Callie and David delve into how our frustrating patterns in dating are often related to our attachment styles. They explore how we can better understand ourselves, relate with others, and build more secure dating dynamics.--------------------------------We're eager ...
2023-02-241h 23Down To Earth with the BurucharasRethinking Your Dating "Type"Is it helpful to have a "type" when we date? Or should our tastes be more flexible when finding love? In this episode, David and Callie talk about what their types were before they met, exploring: the 3Ps that influence our typewhy it's important to question your typehow our type is often not actually our typeand how to differentiate between values and type in dating--------------------------------We're eager to hear your thoughts on the podcast! Got any questions, topic suggestions...
2023-02-101h 13Down To Earth with the BurucharasThe 3 Dating TendenciesWelcome back to season 3! In this first episode, Callie and David talk about the 3 dating tendencies: a helpful framework that highlights three common blind spots most people have in their dating lives. Taken from Logan Ury's book, How To Not Die Alone, finding out your tendency can help you understand the struggles you face in your dating journey along with strategies to help you overcome them. Find out your dating tendency at: https://loganury.com/quiz ---------------------------...
2023-02-0341 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasOur Table Mountain StorySign up for our newsletter launching Oct 14 at theburucharas.com!---On Sunday morning February 23rd, 2020, David and Callie, then a freshly married couple, embarked on what they thought would be a pleasant 2-3 hour hike up the Platteklip Gorge trail of Table Mountain in Cape Town, South Africa. Little did they know, a day-long adventure was awaiting them...this is the story. --------------------------------We're eager to hear your thoughts on the podcast! Got any questions, topic suggest...
2022-09-2348 minDown To Earth with the Burucharas5 Ways To Grow Your Relationship From Good To GreatToday's episode is inspired by a conversation Callie recently had with a friend and regular listener of the podcast. As they chatted, she shared, " I love your podcast and your relationship. But sometimes it just feels...unattainable." In this episode, David and Callie clarify how far from perfect their relationship is and share five attainable steps they've taken over the past 7 years, with much much grace, to grow their relationship to where it is today. -------------------------------...
2022-09-0953 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasCareer Mentorship (Part 3) with Audrey BoloIn this final episode in our mentorship series, David sits down with Audrey Bolo, a friend and certified professional career coach to learn about:- her colorful career journey- how to navigate a drastic career shift- what do when you don't land your dream job - what career coaching actually looks like- how to navigate pursuing our purpose and passions, all while paying the bills. Audrey Bolo is the face behind Your Truth Coach, helping professionals seek their own balance, clarity, and ...
2022-08-2654 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasDating Q&A - Does He Like Me? Should A Man Pursue? Attracted To Multiple People? Not Attracted?In this episode, Callie and David tackle four dating questions submitted on Instagram recently by listeners! Here are the questions: 00:00 - How can you tell a guy likes you?12:25 - What does it mean to let a man pursue you, and is it even a legitimate principle to follow?30:26 - What to do when you are attracted to more than one person?41:20 - I've given them a chance, but I'm just not attracted to them. What do I do?Follow @davidburuchara on Instagram to keep posted on upcoming polls to sub...
2022-07-2248 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasChore Wars: How To Keep Household Chores From Hurting Relationships80% of couples that live together disagree and stress about household chores. But these disagreements often say more about the relationship than the monotonous tasks being argued about! Whether you're in a romantic relationship or not, understanding how to navigate chores with the people you live with is an essential skill for a happier life. Join Callie and David as they share their chore war history and how they're learning to love each other through it. -------------------------------...
2022-07-1550 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasIndependence, Codependence, & Interdependence In RelationshipsIn this episode, David and Callie discuss maintaining the delicate and beautiful balance of interdependence in relationships. On one side of the spectrum is independence, where too much of it means you don't have a relationship. The other side is codependence, where you can't tell the difference between two individuals because they are so enmeshed. We each tend to lean towards one side based on several factors (e.g. at the beginning of a relationship, more independence is reasonable). By firs...
2022-07-0845 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasDo Relationships Take "Work"?In this shorter episode, reacting to a comment from a New York Times article, Callie and David share their thoughts on what "work" means in a relationship. Should a relationship require work? How much work and what kind of work? Is there a danger in idolizing "work" and hardship/suffering in relationships? --------------------------------We're eager to hear your thoughts on the podcast! Got any questions, topic suggestions, or just want to get in touch? We'd love to hear from you via thi...
2022-06-1732 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasAgree to Disagree: Unresolvable Conflict In RelationshipsIs it ever okay to agree to disagree? Does doing so ever bring people closer together or only ever push them further apart? While there's much to say about this topic in our polarized society, in this episode, David and Callie open up about conflicts in their relationship where agreeing to disagree has gone both well and not so well. The Gottman Institute reports that 69% of conflict is unresolvable, meaning successful relationships are where people learn how to navigate instead of avoiding t...
2022-06-0358 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasHow We Love/Attachment Theory (Part 2) with David & CallieJoin Callie and David for the 2nd part of this short series on attachment theory, exploring how attachment explains our unique patterns for seeking and avoiding connection. David and Callie have been reading through "How We Love" by Milan & Kay Yerkovich, a highly recommended resource to learn about your attachment (love) style and how to improve the quality of your relationships. In this episode, they reflect on their individual styles and how it has impacted their relationship. We...
2022-05-271h 13Down To Earth with the BurucharasMarking the Moment, Impostor Syndrome, & Self Care with Heather Thompson DayIn this episode, Heather Thompson Day fulfills her promise, returning to celebrate two answered prayers that she and David spoke about in her first guest appearance (Episode 52). Join Heather and David as they share their testimonies and touch on a range of different topics such as journaling, self-care, the enneagram, impostor syndrome, and her upcoming book "I'll See You Tomorrow".Dr. Heather Thompson Day is an associate professor of communication at Andrews University, with a g...
2022-05-1349 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasPerfectionismWhat does perfectionism mean to you? And what does perfectionistic thinking look like in your day-to-day life? Is it healthy or is there a better way? In this week's episode, Callie and David talk about perfectionism in their lives and explore a more healthy method to grow and mature in excellence. This discussion applies to all parts of life, including relationships.--------------------------------We're eager to hear your thoughts on the podcast! Got any questions, topic suggestions, or just...
2022-05-0647 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasLet's Talk About Therapy/Counseling - Pt 3 with Dr. Ruth Stephen KoilpillaiIn this episode, we're joined by special guest and clinical psychologist, Dr. Ruth Stephen Koilpillai, for the final episode of our 3-part series discussing therapy/counseling. Join Ruth and David as they talk about Ruth's story, the role & benefits of therapy in helping us thrive from a psychologist's POV, and reconciling therapy & psychology with the Christian faith. It gets deep!Check out our Mental Health book recommendations here! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dCJxuCG_JHNoM...
2022-04-081h 19Down To Earth with the BurucharasLet's Talk About Therapy/Counseling - Part 2In this episode, Callie and David continue a 3-part series discussing therapy/counseling. They pick up continuing to discuss common hesitations that arise when considering therapy and also dive into how you can practically go about finding an affordable counselor or therapist in your area.The 3rd part of the series will be a Q&A with a licensed clinical psychologist, so please pass on your questions, reactions, and thoughts! We want to hear from you, yes you! Submission details are shared...
2022-04-011h 02Down To Earth with the BurucharasLet's Talk About Therapy/Counseling - Part 1In this episode, Callie and David begin a 3-part series discussing therapy/counseling. The idea of therapy and counseling may have a unique meaning for you depending on your culture, religious background, and previous experience with therapy or counseling. As you consider what therapy means to you, you are welcome to the table as David and Callie share their own experiences in today's episode and why they believe everyone should consider therapy. They also share a few essential things t...
2022-03-2556 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasConfronting A FriendIn today's episode, Callie & David talk about the necessity of confrontation in friendships. Confrontation is often interpreted as being aggressive or negative, but in reality, confronting an issue is all about facing it in a truthful, mature, and respectful way in order to build a closer relationship. However, sometimes it's not our friends we need to confront first, but ourselves. Join the conversation to learn more about navigating this often difficult part of friendships!-------------...
2022-03-1858 minDown To Earth with the Burucharas3 Communication Patterns That Harm FriendshipsIn this episode, Callie and David have a nuanced conversation and share personal experiences about subtle yet common communication patterns that when perpetuated, lead to less connected and intimate friendships. As they address these patterns, they also suggest ways to safely confront our friends about them even though it might bring some discomfort.--------------------------------We're eager to hear your thoughts on the podcast! Got any questions, topic suggestions, or just want to get...
2022-03-1139 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasHow To Deal With Your Partner’s PastOne of the keys to securing a fulfilling relationship is leaving the past where it belongs. But how do you know if the past is actually in the past? We might feel that our partner's past, romantic or otherwise, is something that threatens our current relationship and so we keep dwelling on it, often to our detriment. Join Callie and David as they dive into this topic exploring:The difference between forgiveness and trustHow to know if your partner's past is their presentCommon insecurities we...
2022-03-0447 minDown To Earth with the Burucharas4 Ways To Make New FriendsStudies show that new friendships don't just happen. Believing that friendships happen by luck or circumstance versus believing making friends takes intentionality, evidently impacts your chances of making friends. In this episode, Callie and David explore 4 proven ways to make new friends, while reflecting on examples in their own lives.If you'd like to dive more into learning about friendship, here are some great friendship experts you can follow:Dr. Marisa Franco, IG: @drmarisagfrancoDr. M...
2022-02-1146 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasAre We Really Friends?! Friends, Acquaintances & Other Relationship TypesIs defining-the-relationship (DTR) only important in a romantic context? Or can it be advantageous for our friendships too? What if your friend is more accurately defined as an acquaintance or something entirely different? In today's episode, Callie and David explore this subject exploring the reasons why categorizing our relationships can prove critical for your wellbeing and others, as well as how to understand which category the people in your life fall into.--------------------------...
2022-01-1451 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasHow To Handle Difficult Interactions During The HolidaysFor some of us, the holidays are an opportunity for quality time with close family and friends yet for many, the holidays and interactions thereof trigger mixed and often negative emotions; anxiety, anger, fear, sadness, grief, or loss. In this episode, Callie and David take time to acknowledge the difficulties of the holiday season and share 3 ways to help navigate difficult yet often necessary interactions. ALSO, listen till the end to receive a special CHristmas gift from both o...
2021-12-2434 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasA Sex Episode: Callie's StoryIn this episode, David now interviews Callie about her journey with sex. She reflects on her range of sources for sex education — from Planned Parenthood to married friends — and the value she's gained from each. Callie also shares how she navigated her insecurities regarding David's sexual history, as well as dealing with the guilt and shame of crossing boundaries in their relationship (and how to see it in its proper context). Not only is there much more, there's also plenty of jokes. You k...
2021-11-191h 00Down To Earth with the BurucharasA Sex Episode: David's StoryIn this episode, Callie interviews David about his journey with sex. Beginning from childhood, he shares up through their current relationship as a married couple. Reflecting on experiences, emotions, and beliefs, David's story shows how we can't ignore our sexual past, present, and future. Vulnerability, honesty, and especially compassion are all necessary for healing and growth — especially in the realm of sex. --------------------------------We're eager to hear your though...
2021-11-1247 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasSeason 2 Premiere: David & Callie Talk Challenges, Growth And Supporting Each Other In 2021Welcome to season 2 of the podcast! We missed you!In this episode, we introduce the exciting themes to look forward to this season and interview each other about our struggles, growth and supporting each other as a couple over the past year. We hope you'll be inspired to have similar conversations in your own relationships, romantic or not, as well as resonate with some of our reflections!--------------------------------We're eager to hear your thoughts on the podcast! Got any questions, topi...
2021-10-1542 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasThe ProposalOn this final episode of this (50-episode) season, we share our proposal story. Every proposal story is unique and beautiful and we're honored to share some of the hurdles crossed and milestones attained that led us to engagement, including:Why we "delayed" our engagement plans because of familyA secret to the perfect proposalWhy David's proposal plans were shut downHow Callie almost busted the proposal set-up and who saved the day--------------------------------We're eager to hear your thoug...
2021-06-1844 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasMy Top 10 Lessons From Our Podcast Guests (Year 1)We can't believe it's almost been a year since we launched the podcast! We've been privileged to have a total of 15 guests interview with us and I (David) wanted to share with you the top 10 lessons that I've learned from them in this first solo episode!If you're new to the podcast, this is a great episode to help guide you on what episodes you might be interested in. And if you've been part of this community for a while, we're super curious to know what top lessons you've learned from our gu...
2021-06-1130 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasWhy We Never Said "I Love You" (Until We Were Engaged)In this episode, we take a walk down memory lane to reflect on why we made a decision not to say "I Love You" to each other until we were engaged, after 3 years of dating. We want to emphasize that this wasn't a rule but a choice we made. Join us as we recall the conversation we had that led to the decision, our reasoning behind it, how it impacted our relationship, and the "accidental" time David splurted the 3 magical words. --------------------------------We're eager to hear your thou...
2021-04-1536 minDown To Earth with the Burucharas2 Kinds of FOMO in Relationships & How To Deal With ThemFOMO is one of those millennial-esque terms; but we don't believe its experience is reserved for Millennials or even this decade. The fear of missing out can negatively impact our decisions and frames of mind, especially in the realm of relationships. In this episode, we dive into two kinds of FOMO, how it can impact even our closest relationships, and how to have a more balanced view of what we have and what we're striving for.--------------------------------We're eager to hear your thoughts...
2020-09-2536 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasBefore Dating: The Intentional FriendshipIn today's episode, we share about the stage of our relationship between confessing our feelings for each other and becoming official/starting to date. Instead of taking our mutual feelings as a guarantee we should be in a romantic relationship, we decided to begin an intentional friendship. Through our experience and insights we gleaned from others, we delve into:- How we confessed our feelings for each other- The purpose of an intentional friendship- The ideal length of an intentional frien...
2020-09-1742 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasShould I Go To Counseling? with Ruth MatoyaIn this episode, we welcome (Auntie) Ruth Matoya to share her wealth of meaningful experience helping others as a licensed counseling psychologist. Sometimes we think counseling is the place we go when we're on the way out — we only go to counseling as a last resort if nothing else works. Instead, Auntie Ruth demystifies both the purpose and the long-term effects of counseling. Join us as we explore common questions such as:- What is the difference between counseling and therapy? Does it matt...
2020-09-1155 minDown To Earth with the Burucharas3 Signs You Need Healthier BoundariesWhy do we sometimes tell people "yes" when we really want to say "no"? Why do we sometimes get mad at people for asking for our time? And who are these mythical people that seem to be so in control of their time, have no problem with telling people no, and yet are still kind about it? The answers to all of these questions center around boundaries. There are so many relational heartaches and obstacles when we don't have strong boundaries; in fact, we can even hurt ourselves without anyone...
2020-09-0440 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasGetting to Know Each Other & TriflingOn this episode, we delve into that awkward space between friendship and something more: where you're starting to develop feelings, but aren't sure if the other person feels the same, or what you should do at that point, and the anxiety can be high! We share that phase of our relationship, how it came about, and how it felt for us at the time. We then focus on one of the biggest causes of heartache and misunderstanding in this phase: trifling. What is trifling and how do you avoid it? Wh...
2020-08-2644 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasReadiness, Being Set Up, & Mentorship with Justin KimIn today’s episode, we are excited to welcome Justin Kim, a colleague, friend, mentor, and Old Testament timeline aficionado (Callie insisted on putting that in). Justin shares how leaving a position at Harvard and drastically switching career trajectories impacted his relationship search during his 20s. Through both personal experience and learned principles, he also shares about:Being set up with someone and how we can be more open to itThe importance of self-awareness in assessing your rea...
2020-08-2153 minDown To Earth with the Burucharas3 Fears That Sabotage Our RelationshipsWe all want to have healthy, fulfilling, and meaningful relationships — so why do sabotage them? It definitely takes two people to create a wonderful relationship, but sometimes its failure has little to do with the other person and a lot to do with us. Why is that? What are we so afraid of? And more importantly, how can we stop allowing these fears to sabotage our relationships?In this episode, we take a closer look at common fears we allow to hurt our relationships as well as the underlying...
2020-08-1447 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasHow We Met & SoulmatesOne of the most common questions couples receive is…“So, how did you two meet?” We love answering this question, mostly because it’s not what people expect — it also depends on who they ask: David gives a great summary, and Callie excels in the details. On this episode, join us as we share more about our story, and as we discuss key questions such as:Were we soulmates? What defines a soulmate?Is it okay to meet people online?Did we experience love at first sight? Is that a real thi...
2020-08-0733 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasSingleness: Available But Content with Sikhu DacoIn today's episode, we are excited to welcome Sikhu Daco, a good friend and theology buff. She shares about her years of marvelous contentedness as a single woman, while still being open and searching for a relationship; and accomplishing both while living out her purpose.Living in a romantic-relationship-centric society, we are often bombarded with the idea that our value and identity are determined by a spouse (or lack thereof). Sikhu wisely breaks down the heart of the issue and speaks to ...
2020-07-311h 05Down To Earth with the Burucharas4 Ways To Respect A Loved OneIf you've been on social media during the last few weeks (July 2020) you've likely heard about the six-year-old boy, Bridger Walker of Wyoming, who became an internet hero for jumping in front of a dog that was running to attack his little sister. He suffered 90 stitches to his face as a result of dog bites but his heroic sacrifice will awe the world for years to come. This had us thinking; while many of us can easily say that we'd "take a bullet" for a partner, friend, or family member,...
2020-07-2443 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasCallie and David BEFORE Callie-and-DavidWhile we're certain that you'll find out much more about us as we explore different phases of our relationship in future episodes, we thought it fitting in today's episode to pull back the curtain on our individual lives before we met in 2014. In this more chill conversation, through laughs and reflections, we discover some similarities and differences between our upbringing and then transition into key mindsets and experiences that shaped how we approached romantic relationships up unti...
2020-07-1639 minDown To Earth with the BurucharasThe Relationship Continuum with Sebastien BraxtonWhat's the difference between being interested in someone, liking them, and loving them? What exactly do these terms mean experientially? Do defining these terms matter? On this episode, Sebastien Braxton, a special friend, mentor, and our very first podcast guest, shares with us the simple yet insightful framework called The Relationship Continuum to help us define the different feelings and thoughts we experience during a relationship. You'll find that this framework brings clarity not...
2020-07-0946 min