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Lawyers Who Learn#89 - The Seven-Month Silent Retreat That Created a New Career PathJon Krop made a decision that would terrify most lawyers: he quit his tech job at 30 and spent seven months in silent meditation at a teacher's center in Arizona. Living in a yurt, no phone, no talking, no reading—just meditation and twice-weekly check-ins with his teacher. What he discovered didn't just transform his relationship with ADHD and anxiety; it set him on an unexpected path toward helping legal professionals cultivate wellbeing.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores Jon's journey from Harvard Law student managing ADHD through medication and meditation to becoming CE...
2025-12-2252 minLawyers Who Learn#88 - Tracking Fortune 100 Clients: The Art of Legal IntelligenceAs Director of Client Intelligence at Sidley Austin, Rachel Shields Williams transforms messy relationship data into strategic intelligence, tracking how former general counsels become clients, then expert witnesses, then something else entirely.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores how Rachel evolved from a marketing coordinator to President-Elect of the Legal Marketing Association. Her path began with a family business running golf courses and led through ten years in marketing before discovering her calling at the intersection of data, storytelling, and change management.
Rachel reveals why law firms desperately need storytellers a...
2025-12-1844 minLawyers Who Learn#87 - The Attorney Who Treats ADHD as a Competitive AdvantageJulie Remer spent years as a practicing attorney secretly struggling with ADHD she didn't know she had. Then her five-year-old daughter's diagnosis sparked a revelation: those challenges she'd been white-knuckling through her entire legal career were actually neurological differences shared by 25% of law students today.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores Julie's evolution from an attorney hiding her struggles to founder of Amicus Coaching, where she helps neurodivergent lawyers transform perceived weaknesses into strategic advantages.
Julie reveals the perfect storm that brings lawyers to her door: billing struggles, communication breakdowns...
2025-12-1548 minLawyers Who Learn#86 - The Dietitian Teaching Lawyers to Fuel Performance, Not Just BodiesAmy Goodson could memorize entire speeches as a child and loved performing on stage—skills that seemed destined for communication work. She was also a dancer and loved exercise as a teen. This love for exercise led to an interest in nutrition, personally and professionally. From a communications degree to a double masters in exercise and sports nutrition, Amy’s 20-year career path has been all about marrying the two together to provide science-backed, practical information to the public.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman speaks with Amy, a registered dietitian who now runs...
2025-12-1153 minLawyers Who Learn#85 - The Two-Workout System: Training Body and Mind in Legal PracticeJonathan Schutrum's intellectual transformation began during COVID lockdown on nightly walks with his dog through Buffalo's winter streets. While the world shut down, the insurance defense attorney discovered philosophy podcasts that fundamentally changed how he approached legal practice. What started as curiosity evolved into a deliberate framework: treating mental fitness with the same rigor as physical training.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, explores how Schutrum applies ancient wisdom to modern insurance defense work at Dickie, McCamey & Chilcote. From Marcus Aurelius's Meditations to German philosopher Martin Heidegger's phenomenology, he views...
2025-12-0828 minLawyers Who Learn#84 - The Managing Partner Who Traded $48 Million Verdicts for Yoga MatsKaren Munoz spent nearly a decade at a personal injury firm, rising from receptionist to managing partner while handling wrongful death cases and winning multi-million dollar verdicts. But beneath the external success, she was slowly losing herself. Then yoga, recovery, and a master's degree in counseling psychology changed everything. In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman sits down with Karen to explore her transformation from personal injury attorney to trauma-informed wellness coach. As a first-generation Mexican-American who graduated from UIC School of Law in 2008, Karen never felt she fit the traditional lawyer mold. While classmates competed...
2025-12-0449 minLawyers Who Learn#83 The "Cheat Code" to Upskilling 100,000 Lawyers on AIColin Lachance's journey began at age 10, when a fateful summer camp experience introduced him to law as society's "cheat code." That early exposure launched a decades-long career from telecom regulatory law to becoming an entrepreneur determined to prevent lawyers from being left behind by AI.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores Colin's unconventional path to founding LawQi, a platform on a mission to upskill 100,000 attorneys on AI fundamentals before it's too late. After managing the Canadian Legal Information Institute, Canada's most-used legal research resource, Colin recognized an urgent problem: attorneys have a...
2025-11-2741 minLawyers Who Learn#82 The Integration Work Lawyers Need Before AI’s DisruptionClarissa Dominguez couldn’t shake the feeling that traditional therapy was keeping her stuck. Despite years of Western treatment for borderline personality disorder—and pouring most of her 401(k) into healing a chronic illness—she kept cycling through the same emotional patterns.
So she did something most lawyers would never risk:
She walked away from her BigLaw career for an entire year to study neuroscience coaching and rebuild herself from the inside out.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman speaks with Clarissa — now Professional Development Manager at BakerHostetler — about transformi...
2025-11-2452 minLawyers Who Learn#81 Laugh, Build, Run! - Discussing Workflows, Legal Tech Craziness and Ironman TriathlonsMichael Grupp started his legal career at Freshfields and Hogan Lovells before founding Bryter, a workflow automation platform he calls "Lego for lawyers." Over the years he has raised $90 million, leads 100 employees across three continents, and teaches at Goethe University. In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores Grupp's journey from Big Law associate to legal tech entrepreneur navigating the chaos of AI transformation. Based in Frankfurt, Germany, Grupp has built a company that turns repetitive legal processes into automated enterprise apps without requiring lawyers to write code. His approach to legal tech and the ups...
2025-11-2049 minLawyers Who Learn#80 If You Don't Talk About Yourself, No One Else Will: Breaking Free from Professional SilenceMarc W. Halpert encountered the same paralyzing problem across professions: all struggling to talk about themselves despite extraordinary credentials. The pattern was universal—high achievers frozen by fear, worried about sounding "too out there," dragging themselves through the mud instead of showcasing their value.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman sits down with Marc, a serial entrepreneur turned LinkedIn branding strategist who helps attorneys break free from the psycho-cultural programming that keeps them invisible.
Marc's philosophy cuts against conventional wisdom: you're not bragging when you share your expertise—you're serving your futu...
2025-11-1751 minLawyers Who Learn#79 Six Months Without Pay Led to a Multi-Million Dollar ExitFifteen years ago, Richart Ruddie survived on rice and frozen shrimp while working six months without pay, taking out negative equity from ATMs just to get by. Today, after selling his bootstrapped reputation management company for more than competitors who raised $70 million, he's building Captain Compliance—a data privacy software company protecting businesses from costly compliance violations that could mean generational wealth.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, explores Ruddie's unconventional path from valet parking luxury cars to serial legal tech entrepreneur. After a mentor advised him to intern anywhere during th...
2025-11-1353 minLawyers Who Learn#78 The Professional Development Director with a 1,700+ Day PracticeJohnna Story has spent three decades at Finnegan—a remarkably rare tenure in today's legal landscape. But her longevity isn't just about staying; it's about evolving a profession that barely existed when she started. As Director of Professional Development and Wellbeing, Johnna has watched attorney development transform from an afterthought into a strategic imperative.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores how Johnna built her 1,700+ day meditation streak using the free Insight Timer app and why she's convinced that wellbeing isn't dessert—it's the main course. Starting as an HR assistant in 1995 at a fi...
2025-11-1041 minLawyers Who Learn#77 Playing the Infinite Game in Legal Tech's AI RevolutionJack Newton runs Clio with 2,000 employees and over $300 million in annual recurring revenue, yet he describes his CEO role as "a new job every quarter." His secret to sustaining energy seventeen years into building Clio isn't about winning existing markets—it's about creating entirely new categories of software that didn't exist weeks before.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman sits down with Newton at ClioCon to explore the mindset behind scaling a legal tech unicorn. Newton reveals how humility and continuous learning drive his approach, from seeking mentors among portfolio companies to studying fr...
2025-11-0610 minLawyers Who Learn#76 Grow Strong: The NICU Lesson She Brings to Talent DevelopmentFour months in a NICU changes you. For Kathryn Marquez, Global Director of Learning and Development at Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner (BCLP), those 120 days watching her three-pound, 14-ounce daughter Evie fight to survive—born with an esophagus that never fully formed—made her a better parent, professional, and leader. The whiteboard goal "to grow strong" wasn't just for her daughter; it became something she carries with her in everything she does.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, explores Kathryn's journey from a 22-year-old legal personnel assistant at Sidley Austin to her curr...
2025-11-0349 minLawyers Who Learn#75 “I Chase Being Uncomfortable"—The Pharmacist-Lawyer's Chaos FormulaDarshan Kulkarni doesn't believe in meditation, doesn’t have time to read books, and thrives on chaos—yet he's earned six degrees by age 25, founded a law firm, teaches at Drexel, and has recorded thousands of podcast episodes. His secret? "Chase being uncomfortable," he says, and find joy in everything you do.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, sits down with Kulkarni to explore an unconventional learning philosophy that rejects traditional productivity advice. As a sixth-generation pharmacist who added a JD and master's degree to his credentials while still in his...
2025-10-3051 minLawyers Who Learn#74 Measuring Soul vs Toll: A New Framework for Career DecisionsAnusia Gillespie hasn't applied for a single job since law school, yet she's moved through seven organizations in ten years—all by design. She played pivotal roles in two major legal tech acquisitions, built innovation programs across global law firms, and figured out exactly which parts of work fuel her versus drain her. When the ratio shifts too far, she makes her move.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, explores this unconventional career philosophy with Anusia Gillespie, Enterprise Lead at vLex and author of the book Soul Toll. Her journey sp...
2025-10-2748 minLawyers Who Learn#73 She Was Born Into Law. Panic Attacks Almost Ended ItEmily Logan Stedman was having full-blown panic attacks on family vacations. Despite making partner track at a prestigious Milwaukee firm—Teach for America, Law Review Editor, clerkship, Big Law success—she was ready to leave law entirely. Then her husband said something that changed everything: "I think you actually like being a lawyer. You might just need a different environment." In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, sits down with Emily, now a partner at Husch Blackwell, to explore her transformation from secretly struggling associate to Big Law's most visible wellness advocate. Raised by a...
2025-10-2337 minLawyers Who Learn#72 Citizens Are Not Educated for Legal; It’s Time for Lawyers to Take ActionMost law students can argue complex cases but struggle to explain basic legal rights every citizen should know. Marisa Monteiro Borsboom noticed this disconnect and decided to do something radical about it—launching a legal literacy initiative that challenges both how lawyers are trained and how citizens understand their place in the legal system.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, explores Borsboom's unconventional journey from Portuguese lawyer to quantum computing policy advisor to founder of the Humanity of Things Agency. Licensed since 2004 and splitting her life between the Netherlands and Portugal, Bo...
2025-10-2050 minLawyers Who Learn#70 Five Toxic Myths Trapping Lawyers—And How Greek Gods Break ThemScott Mason spent 25 years building exactly the legal career everyone expected: Columbia Law School graduate, general counsel to the nation's largest domestic violence shelter provider, second-in-command of New York City's court system. When a near-death illness hit in 2023, it didn't introduce a new question. It just made the one he'd been avoiding impossible to ignore: had he become an attorney to meet everyone else's expectations except his own? By then, he'd already launched a transformational coaching practice in 2020, built on an unlikely foundation—Greek mythology.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman, CEO of La...
2025-10-1343 minLawyers Who Learn#69 The Meditation Practice That Built a Speaking and Legal CareerClaire E. Parsons made equity partner at her first firm, yet found herself paralyzed by a lifetime of fear and perfectionism. Then postpartum depression forced her to try something radical: one minute of daily meditation. That single minute grew into a 30-minute practice that didn't just change her mental health—it transformed her entire career trajectory. In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores how Claire evolved from a civil rights attorney afraid to speak about her meditation practice to a mindfulness teacher with over ten speaking engagements scheduled for Q4 alone. Now Of Counsel at Br...
2025-10-0639 minLawyers Who Learn#68 The Midlife Question Every Successful Leader Fears to Ask"Are my best days behind me, or are my best days ahead of me?" It's the question that haunts successful professionals in midlife—one they often can't even verbalize. David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, faces this internal struggle daily, driven by Abraham Maslow's warning: "If you deliberately plan on being less than you're capable of being, you'll be unhappy for the rest of your life."
In this unprecedented episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David steps away from the host chair to become the guest, guided through a live coaching session with Kara Hardin, CEO and founder of Th...
2025-09-2906 minLawyers Who Learn#67 Teaching Lawyers the One Skill Law School Never CoveredWhen Jessica left her six-figure government position at the SEC Division of Enforcement, she discovered something startling: she wasn’t the only highly educated lawyer secretly "winging it" with her money, many were carrying financial shame that kept them trapped in unfulfilling careers. Today, she's transformed that revelation into a thriving practice as an Accredited Financial Counselor, helping attorneys break free from golden handcuffs through strategic financial planning.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, explores Jessica's evolution from Columbia Law graduate drowning in $200,000 of debt to becoming the financial coach who he...
2025-09-2255 minLawyers Who Learn#66 From Coding at 11 to Running the 'Oscars of Legal Innovation’Nine years ago, when Tom Martin talked about chatbots and artificial intelligence to lawyers, they dismissed it, saying it sounded like a science fiction novel. Today, his LawDroid platform serves courts, legal aid organizations, and law firms with AI solutions he's been quietly perfecting since that early skepticism—all while remaining bootstrapped and profitable.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, explores Martin's journey from first-generation law school graduate to legal tech pioneer. Growing up in Los Angeles, California—his father a "philosopher barber" who instilled the belief that "you could do anyt...
2025-09-1542 minLawyers Who Learn#65 From Federal Prosecutor to 25-Attorney Firm: The $50K Gamble That Paid OffEric Kanefsky took an 85% pay cut to leave BigLaw for the U.S. Attorney's Office, then borrowed $50,000 to start his own firm—transforming from government lawyer into managing partner of a 25-attorney white collar defense powerhouse.
In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman reconnects with his former college roommate to explore Kanefsky's unconventional reverse path from Temple Law through prestigious firms, federal prosecution, and running New Jersey's Consumer Affairs division with 600 employees. When he and his partner found themselves dreading their planned BigLaw returns, they made a spontaneous coffee shop decision that reshaped their ca...
2025-09-0853 minLawyers Who Learn#62 The Training Program That's Changing Big LawIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Caitlin Vaughn, Managing Director of Learning and Professional Development at Goodwin, who shares her remarkable journey from practicing attorney to innovating legal education. Caitlin's story begins with an unexpected twist during the 2008 financial crisis when Goodwin created the "Make a Difference Fellowship," allowing half their incoming class to work with nonprofits for a year instead of laying them off.
Caitlin opens up about her transition from practicing law to discovering her true passion in learning and development, revealing how she loved everything about practicing...
2025-08-1151 minLawyers Who Learn#61 AI Is Forcing Lawyers to Rethink Who They AreIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Anastasia Boyko, Legal Futurist and Product Evangelist at Filevine and host of PLI's "How to Navigate Law School" podcast. Anastasia shares her remarkable journey from fleeing Ukraine at age eight to becoming a pioneering force in legal education and innovation, earning her self-described title as the "Goldilocks" of career pivots.
The conversation centers on Anastasia's passion for transformation in the legal profession. She argues that AI is forcing a fundamental rethinking of who lawyers are and what they do, moving beyond efficiency improvements to...
2025-08-0449 minLawyers Who Learn#60 Why Law Firms Finally Embrace Personality TrainingIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, reconnects with Rob Toomey, co-founder of TypeCoach, for a wide-ranging conversation that begins with their shared experience meeting while living in Barcelona and evolves into a deep dive on personality types, AI, and the future of interpersonal competence in legal practice. Rob shares insights from his journey from BigLaw attorney to building a 20-year-old business that revolutionizes how teams understand and interact with each other. Unlike traditional Myers-Briggs assessments that leave people wondering what to do with their four-letter code, TypeCoach creates practical "instruction manuals" for working...
2025-07-2852 minLawyers Who Learn#59 The Foundation You Don't See: A Lawyer's Inner WorkIn this deeply personal episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Somya Kaushik, Associate General Counsel at Mitratech, who reveals the foundation behind her diverse legal career: a lifelong practice of meditation, yoga, and self-empowerment rooted in her cultural heritage. This conversation explores the intersection of ancient wisdom and modern legal practice, showing how inner work creates outer success.
Somya opens up about her non-traditional career path from corporate litigation to founding a legal tech startup (Esq.me) to her current in-house role, but emphasizes that her professional achievements stem from decades of...
2025-07-2242 min
BE THAT LAWYERDavid Schnurman: Building Resilience and Business Through Optimism and ActionIn this episode, Steve Fretzin and David Schnurman discuss:Building a resilient mindset through optimism, reflection, and habit formationLessons from career pivots and entrepreneurial problem-solving in the legal spaceCultivating emotional regulation through gratitude, compassion, and non-judgmentEmbracing technology and AI to repurpose content and increase professional impact Key Takeaways:Journaling and identifying recurring mindset blocks can help lawyers recognize patterns of imposter syndrome and emotional burnout, giving them the self-awareness and clarity needed to shift their thinking and take purposeful steps toward resilience.When faced with the sudden loss or burnout of a critical team m...
2025-07-2132 minLawyers Who Learn#58 Ancient Stoicism Meets Modern Legal PracticeIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Maria Yiannitsarakos, a practicing real estate attorney turned confidence coach who brings ancient wisdom to modern legal practice. Maria shares her remarkable journey from working at a law firm to building her own practice while raising three children, driven by her need for freedom and the stoic principle of controlling what you can control.
Maria opens up about her personal transformation, including her decision to reconnect with her father after 15 years and how sharing her life journey publicly on LinkedIn has become a way...
2025-07-1747 minLawyers Who Learn#57 Why Law School's Third Year Should Be EliminatedIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Jordan Furlong, founder of Law21 and one of the legal profession's most influential voices on reform and the future of lawyering. This conversation tackles the fundamental questions facing legal education and the profession itself: Why do we have lawyers? What value do they provide? And how should we form competent practitioners in an AI-driven world? Jordan challenges the core assumptions of legal education, arguing that law school has become nothing more than an expensive credentialing institution that fails to prepare lawyers for actual practice. He advocates...
2025-07-1448 minLawyers Who Learn#56 From Classrooms to Courtrooms: AI Adoption RealityIn this fascinating episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Conor Grennan, Chief AI Architect at NYU Stern and founder of AI Mindset, who brings a unique perspective on how AI will fundamentally reshape education and work. The conversation begins with an inspiring story about Conor taking his 16-year-old son to Nepal to teach AI to NGOs, revealing how the next generation naturally understands and adopts AI technology.
Conor challenges conventional thinking about education, discussing how the current educational system needs to evolve in the AI era. He explains why students adopt AI...
2025-06-1953 minLawyers Who Learn#55 From 10,000 Doors to 25 Keynote TopicsIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Kendra Brodin, whose unique background as an attorney, social worker, and wellbeing coach led her to become CEO of Esquire Well. This conversation explores the fascinating intersection of law, social work, and entrepreneurship while diving into the real challenges of building authentic expertise and overcoming imposter syndrome.
Kendra opens up about her unconventional journey from first-generation college student to running for public office with a newborn baby, sharing how knocking on 10,000 doors taught her invaluable lessons about resilience and business development. She candidly discusses...
2025-06-1658 minLawyers Who Learn#54 How Being Ahead in Cloud Computing Changed EverythingIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David interviews Niki Black, one of legal tech's most influential voices and employee number one at MyCase. This conversation goes beyond the typical career overview to explore the learning journey behind building authentic expertise in a rapidly evolving industry.
Niki opens up about her transition from practicing criminal and civil law to becoming a legal tech evangelist, starting with her early advocacy for cloud computing when it was considered "blasphemous" for lawyers to use. She shares how a chance encounter with Richard Susskind changed her career trajectory, leading to...
2025-06-1244 minLawyers Who Learn#53 From Plane Crash to Rainmaker CoachIn this compelling episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David interviews Steve Fretzin, one of the legal industry's most respected business development coaches and author of five books on legal rainmaking. This isn't your typical business development conversation - it's a candid deep dive into the mistakes and transformative moments that shaped a coaching empire.
Steve opens up about his journey from underachiever to serial entrepreneur, starting with how a devastating 1996 plane crash became his turning point. He shares the costly lesson of running four separate companies simultaneously with $35,000 in monthly overhead, revealing how "shiny penny syndrome"...
2025-06-0953 minLawyers Who Learn#52 The Legally Speaking Story: 400 Episodes Across 6,500 CitiesIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman speaks with Robert Hanna, founder of KC Partners legal recruiting and host of the Legally Speaking podcast, one of the legal industry's most successful shows with nearly 400 episodes across 6,500+ cities worldwide.
Robert shares his journey from working at traditional legal recruitment firms to building his own company and becoming a digital media powerhouse. He reveals how testing content on LinkedIn in 2019 led to creating the Legally Speaking podcast as a business development tool – a strategy that transformed both his recruiting business and personal brand.
The conversation ex...
2025-06-0553 minLawyers Who Learn#51 BigLaw to EdTech: How First-Week Confusion Helped Build HotshotIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman speaks with Ian Nelson, co-founder of Hotshot, a leading legal training company revolutionizing how lawyers develop their skills in the age of AI.
Ian shares his unconventional journey from BigLaw attorney at Kramer Levin to entrepreneur, revealing how a career-changing assignment to London exposed him to the UK's innovative support and legal training system. This experience inspired his transition to Practical Law Company, where he helped build and grow the U.S. operation from a handful of people in a Regus workspace to over 200 employees before its acquisition...
2025-06-0248 minLawyers Who Learn#50 Reimagining Divorce: Learning to Combine Tech, Law, and EmpathyIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Erin Levine, founder of Hello Divorce - an innovative platform transforming the divorce process. Erin shares her journey from sexual abuse survivor to family law attorney to legal tech entrepreneur, revealing how her personal experience with the legal system as a teen shaped her mission to make divorce less contentious, more affordable, and more accessible.
Erin explains how a pivotal moment with a client who won custody but regretted the litigation process inspired her to create Hello Divorce as a side...
2025-05-2245 minLawyers Who Learn#49 The Courage to Scale Back: Finding More Satisfaction with Less WorkIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Laura Cowan, founder of 2-Hour Lifestyle Lawyer (2HLL) and author of the newly released book "Lifestyle Lawyer Revolution." Laura shares her fascinating journey from working as a CPA at Ernst & Young and hedge funds to making a bold career change at age 35 to attend law school.
After her mother's passing in 2015, Laura established a successful estate planning practice in New York City, growing it to a seven-figure business within three years. When COVID hit, she relocated to Rhode Island and was...
2025-05-1950 minLawyers Who Learn#48 SEO to CEO: Building BluShark Digital from a Law Firm's Marketing DepartmentIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, speaks with Seth Price, founder of Price Benowitz LLP and BluShark Digital. Seth shares his entrepreneurial journey from GW Law graduate to building a 50-lawyer firm and one of the legal industry's most successful digital marketing agencies.
Seth reveals how he and his law school friend created a "divide and conquer" partnership from day one – with his partner handling the legal work while Seth focused on marketing and operations. This unconventional arrangement allowed Seth to build the firm's digital presence when SEO was in its in...
2025-05-1532 minLawyers Who Learn#47 Building the Better Lawyer: A Chief Innovation Officer's Strategy for Winning ClientsIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Evan Shenkman, Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Fisher Phillips. Evan shares his journey from employment litigation attorney to legal innovation leader, and discusses how his firm embraces cutting-edge legal technology.
The discussion centers on Fisher Phillips' pioneering role as the first law firm to test Case Text's Co-Counsel AI tool, and explores how Evan has established at least a dozen similar relationships with legal tech startups since then. He explains the mutual benefits of these partnerships: law firms gain early...
2025-05-1250 minLawyers Who Learn#46 Breaking Into the Walled Garden: How an Outsider Gained the Trust of 110 Am Law FirmsIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Ted Theodoropoulos, founder and CEO of Infodash, the leading cloud intranet and extranet platform for law firms. Ted shares his entrepreneurial journey from starting a collection agency during college to working at Microsoft and Bank of America before launching his own company focused on legal technology solutions.
Ted discusses his transition from a professional services model to a product-based business, explaining how he strategically secured client funding to build his platform while maintaining equity in the company. He reveals the challenges...
2025-05-0856 minLawyers Who Learn#45 Speaking Engineer: A GC's Guide to Useful Legal AdviceIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with John Didday, Associate General Counsel for Product and Privacy at Zendesk. John shares his journey from starting at Quinn Emanuel to transitioning in-house at health tech and software companies, ultimately finding his way to Zendesk in 2019.
The discussion focuses on John's insights about being an effective legal advisor to non-lawyers in technology companies. He emphasizes the importance of communicating legal advice in practical, accessible ways to engineers and product managers, rather than overwhelming them with complex legal analysis. John explains how...
2025-05-0552 minLawyers Who Learn#44 How Fastcase Built a Legal Research Revolution on Relationships, Not Venture CapitalIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, talks with Ed Walters, co-founder of Fastcase and current Chief Strategy Officer at vLex, following a 2023 merger. The discussion traces Walters' remarkable journey from starting Fastcase with Phil Rosenthal in 2000 to building a legal research platform that disrupted established providers like Westlaw and LexisNexis.
Walters shares how Fastcase's mission to "democratize the law" led them to pioneer a bar association subscription model that gave 1.3 million attorneys access to affordable legal research. He details their bootstrap approach - attending more than 1,000 bar association meetings over 15 years...
2025-05-0153 minLawyers Who Learn#43 Lawyers Teaching Lawyers: The Five-Year Zoom Meeting That Keeps GrowingIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Linda Maryanov, an estate planning and administration attorney with 40 years of experience who created the "Thursday Think Tank" - a virtual study group for trust and estates and elder law/special needs attorneys that began during COVID and has flourished for five years.
Linda shares how the Think Tank started almost accidentally in response to the pandemic's challenges. What began as a one-time Zoom meeting to discuss best practices for remote will executions quickly grew from 25 participants to many more, at...
2025-04-2847 minLawyers Who Learn#42 Reinventing Legal Learning: Lessons from SkillBurst’s FounderIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Steve Gluckman, a pioneer in legal e-learning who recently sold his company SkillBurst Interactive to Barbri. Though not a lawyer himself, Steve has spent over two decades developing innovative training solutions for law firms.
Steve shares his entrepreneurial journey from his early days at PwC to founding SkillBurst in 2013, which created customizable, interactive e-learning modules for law firms. He discusses the challenges of timing in business innovation, explaining how his first attempt at legal e-learning was too early for market adoption...
2025-04-2458 minLawyers Who Learn#41 From Emergency Law to Medical Expert: How Eating Dirt Today Creates Momentum for TomorrowIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Andy Jones, a Texas personal injury attorney who specializes in medical malpractice cases. Andy shares his journey from working at a high-volume car wreck firm—what he calls "emergency law"—to becoming a medical malpractice specialist at Sawicki Law, where he eventually became partner.
Andy offers valuable insights for attorneys at various career stages, from recent graduates to those looking to transition practice areas. He discusses how his early experience handling a medical malpractice case at his first firm inadvertently set him...
2025-04-2148 minLawyers Who Learn#40 Perfect Timing: How a Law Firm Dissolution Led to an Ideal Career PathJoin David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, on this Lawyers Who Learn episode as he reconnects with former law school classmate Fanny Ferdman after nearly 20 years. In this authentic conversation, Fanny shares her journey from commercial litigation to employment law, highlighting a pivotal moment in her career development.
During her time at her first firm, Robertson Freilich Bruno and Cohen, Fanny enrolled in a 10-month personal development course with Landmark Education called the "Wisdom Course." Her fiancé (now husband) Ilan, who was a coach at Landmark, suggested they take the course together with friends. Despite enjoying her colleagues a...
2025-04-1749 minLawyers Who Learn#39 Help People Help You: Creating Your Own Path in the Legal Tech EcosystemIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Colin Levy, Director of Legal at Malbek and author of "The Legal Tech Ecosystem." Colin shares his journey from law school to becoming a legal tech specialist, educator, and thought leader. He discusses how being clear about his goals helped create opportunities—from writing a book to teaching as an adjunct professor at two law schools. Colin reflects on his career path with no regrets, though wishes he had discovered legal tech earlier. He explains how his purpose to "support, inform, and inspire ot...
2025-04-1440 minLawyers Who Learn#38 The Therapy No One Talks About: Tapping into Your True PotentialIn this insightful Lawyers Who Learn episode, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Drew Amoroso, founder of DueCourse, a lawyer development and well-being platform. After briefly summarizing Drew's impressive career journey from Reed Smith attorney to entrepreneurship, the discussion takes a deeply personal turn. Rather than focusing on Drew's career, the conversation explores topics like intentionality in daily work life, the power of therapy, and personal growth. Drew shares his seven-year experience with Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) or "tapping," a therapeutic practice that has helped him work through limiting beliefs and negative thought patterns. The conversation...
2025-04-1044 minLawyers Who Learn#37 Grasping at Straws: How Getting Shot at 19 Launched a Legal Tech CareerJoin David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, on this Lawyers Who Learn episode as he explores the remarkable path of Alistair Vigier, whose candid admission about "grasping at straws" after life-changing events reveals the uncertainty that often precedes entrepreneurial success.
Alistair's journey began with a traumatic incident at age 19 when he was shot during military training, derailing his special forces ambitions and leaving him uncertain about his future. This period led him through psychology studies and law school as he searched for a new direction, experiencing what many lawyers face - entering the profession while still figuring out...
2025-04-0751 minLawyers Who Learn#36 The Legal Singularity: How AI Will Transform Law Practice ForeverJoin David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, on this Lawyers Who Learn episode as he explores the fascinating intersection of emerging technology and the law with James Gatto, who leads the AI practice group at Sheppard Mullin with over 120 attorneys.
In this thoughtful conversation, James shares his journey from patent attorney to pioneering legal expert in blockchain, cryptocurrency, and artificial intelligence. He reveals how he stays ahead of rapidly evolving technologies by dedicating at least 10 hours weekly to learning through podcasts, books, and hands-on experimentation with new tools.
James offers valuable insights into building cross-functional teams...
2025-03-3155 minLawyers Who Learn#35 The Three E's of Legal Innovation: How a Knowledge Manager Became a Legal Tech PioneerOn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Nikki Shaver, co-founder of Legal Tech Hub and a recognized leader in legal innovation. With Australian and Canadian roots, Nikki brings extensive experience in knowledge management and legal technology transformation to the conversation.
Nikki shares her journey from practicing media and defamation law in Australia to becoming a director of knowledge management at a Canadian law firm, and later joining Paul Hastings in New York. In 2020, she and her husband Chris Ford founded Legal Tech Hub, a platform that addresses the gap in...
2025-03-2742 minLawyers Who Learn#34 How a Frustrated Lawyer Created a Contract Revolution Used 10 Million Times a YearOn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, Host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Electra Japonas, founder of The Law Boutique and Chief Legal Officer at Law Insider.
Join us as Electra shares her remarkable career journey from in-house counsel at prestigious organizations like the European Space Agency, Disney, and British American Tobacco to becoming a legal innovation pioneer. Discover how her frustration with inefficient legal processes inspired her to launch The Law Boutique and create the groundbreaking open-source One NDA initiative.
Electra discusses:
How the One NDA initiative gained widespread industry adoption
2025-03-2449 minLawyers Who Learn#33 The Million-Dollar Check He Hasn't Cashed Yet: A Lawyer's Transformation JourneyOn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Robert Ingalls, founder of LawPods, a company specializing in podcast production for law firms. The two connect through mutual acquaintance Michael Michalowicz, author of Profit First.
Robert shares his journey from unhappy criminal defense attorney to successful legal tech entrepreneur. At 35, feeling trapped in his law practice and concerned about starting a family, Robert had a breakthrough after listening to a Tom Bilyeu podcast on mindset and identity. He began podcasting as a hobby, purchased equipment, and eventually found his first client when...
2025-03-2045 minLawyers Who Learn#32 The Philosophy of Legal Marketing: Stoicism, Authenticity, and Podcasting SuccessThis episode of Lawyers Who Learn Podcast features an insightful conversation between host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, and guest Gyi Tsakalakis, President of AttorneySync, a legal digital marketing agency and co-host of the Lunch Hour Legal Marketing podcast.
After a brief recap of Gyi's journey from computer science major to lawyer to legal marketing entrepreneur, the discussion delves into philosophical territories, with Gyi sharing how stoicism and daily gratitude practices have transformed both his perspective and family life. The conversation explores several book recommendations that have shaped Gyi's thinking, with a recurring theme of finding harmony...
2025-03-1746 minLawyers Who Learn#31 Powering Up Your Law Practice: Thinking, Learning, TeachingThis engaging episode of "Lawyers Who Learn" features host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, in conversation with Ruby Powers, founder of Powers Law Group, an immigration law firm, and Power Up Your Practice, a law practice management consulting company. The discussion reveals Ruby's unique journey from her early personal connection to immigration issues through her mother, who was born to American missionaries in Mexico, to building her successful immigration law practice that now employs 20 staff members across multiple locations. Ruby shares how living in six different countries shaped her perspective and prepared her for her career.
The...
2025-03-1348 minLawyers Who Learn#30 Sliding Doors: How Persistence and Chance Shaped an International Legal CareerThis engaging interview features Allan Rooney, founder of a Rooney Law, that specializes in corporate law. In conversation with host David Schnurman, Allan shares his remarkable journey from Scotland to becoming a successful attorney and entrepreneur in New York.
The interview explores Allan's persistence throughout his career, from his determined efforts to secure a spot at the University of Texas during law school to navigating visa challenges that eventually led him to establish his own firm in 2007. Allan reveals how his immigration situation actually became the catalyst for entrepreneurship, and how a chance elevator meeting while holding...
2025-03-1037 minLawyers Who Learn#29 Paddling Below the Surface: The Reality of Legal LeadershipIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, sits down with Jonathan Havens, head of the Cannabis Law Practice Group at Saul Ewing and managing partner of the firm's Baltimore office. Their wide-ranging conversation delves into the challenges and rewards of following a non-linear career path, the importance of authenticity in leadership, and the constant balance between planning and adaptability in the legal profession.
The discussion offers a refreshingly honest look at the mental and emotional aspects of being a leader in big law, with Jonathan candidly sharing his experiences with imposter...
2025-03-0658 minLawyers Who Learn#28 When the Library Burns Down: From Crisis to Legal Wellness PioneerIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, sits down with Prof. Rebecca Simon Green, a pioneer in lawyers and law school wellness. What begins as a discussion about their wellness consultancy, she runs with her husband Jarrett Green evolves into a profound exploration of Rebecca's remarkable journey - from a high-achieving UC Berkeley graduate and perfectionist law school dropout contemplating suicide to becoming an award-winning voice in legal education and attorney wellbeing.
The conversation takes an unexpected turn when both host and guest vulnerably share their experiences of recently losing parents, creating...
2025-03-0354 minLawyers Who Learn#27 From Basketball to the Boardroom: A Journey of Constant TransformationIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Emerson Moore, former basketball player turned corporate lawyer, who shares his fascinating journey from Michigan basketball walk-on to General Counsel and Chief People Officer. Moore, who originally went to law school wanting to be 'the Black Jerry Maguire,' discusses his evolution through various high-profile roles, including his time at Proskauer Rose, TMP Worldwide (now Radancy), and the Brooklyn Nets.
The conversation delves deep into career transitions, work-life balance, and the importance of knowing when it's time to move on. Moore...
2025-02-271h 01Lawyers Who Learn#26 How New York Law School is Training Tomorrow's GCsIn this engaging episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman sits down with Michael Pastor, who leads two groundbreaking initiatives at New York Law School: the Tricarico Institute and the Innovation Center for Law and Technology. A former General Counsel for NYC's Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications and NYC Cyber Command, Pastor shares his fascinating journey from city government to academia, where he's revolutionizing how law students prepare for in-house counsel careers.
Through candid conversation, Pastor discusses the innovative approaches he's implementing at New York Law School, including simulation-based learning and a mini-MBA program that...
2025-02-2458 minLawyers Who Learn#25 The Art of Legal Storytelling: From Fifty Shades to Stand-Up ComedyThis engaging episode of "Lawyers Who Learn" features a conversation between host David Schnurman and Brent, a business litigation and entertainment lawyer at Bell Nunnally in Dallas. The discussion reveals Brent's fascinating journey from ESPN production to law, highlighting how his media background has shaped his approach to legal storytelling.
The conversation explores Brent's innovative approach to continuing legal education, including his popular courses "Ethics Lessons from HBO's Succession" and "Ethics from Suits." Brent shares how he transforms traditionally dry ethics content into engaging presentations by incorporating popular culture references and storytelling techniques. He also discusses his...
2025-02-2052 minLawyers Who Learn#24 Why Your Role Should Be Unrecognizable in 18 MonthsThis podcast episode of Lawyers Who Learn features an engaging conversation between host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, and Jennifer Hill, CEO of ThoughtRiver, an AI-powered contract review company. The discussion delves into Hill's fascinating journey from teaching public speaking as a college freshman to becoming a lawyer and tech executive. As a longtime Lawline customer, Hill shares personal stories about how continuing legal education has impacted both her professional and personal life, including a compelling account of how a CLE course helped her advocate for her child during a school bullying incident.
The conversation explores Hill's...
2025-02-171h 07Lawyers Who Learn#23 Raised $2.5M in 30 Days, Sold Her Company, Then Everything Changed.Lawyers Who Learn podcast features an in-depth conversation between host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, and Haley Altman, a remarkable figure in legal tech who has successfully navigated multiple career transitions. The episode explores Haley's journey from aspiring doctor and cancer researcher to corporate lawyer, legal tech founder, and M&A executive.
Starting with her early pivot from medicine to law, Haley shares how her love of learning and problem-solving drove her career choices. She discusses her decade as an M&A attorney, becoming one of the fastest partners at Ice Miller, and then founding Doxly, which...
2025-02-131h 03Lawyers Who Learn#21 Learning to Pivot: From BigLaw Litigator to The Billing CoachIn this revealing conversation, host David Schnurman interviews Molly Kremer, "The Billing Coach," who transformed her career from BigLaw litigator to successful legal coach.
Molly shares her journey from practicing insurance defense litigation at AmLaw 100 firm Cozen O'Connor to building her unique coaching practice focused on helping attorneys improve their billing habits. She discusses discovering her niche in coaching after experiencing her own struggles with time management and billing during COVID, and how she built her practice primarily through LinkedIn content and marketing.
The conversation offers valuable insights into the business of legal coaching, including...
2025-02-0652 minLawyers Who Learn#20 Learning Through Disruption: How Access Lex is Reshaping Legal EducationDavid Schnurman, CEO of Lawline speaks with Chris Chapman, CEO of Access Lex Institute, a nonprofit with a billion-dollar endowment focused on legal education. Chris details how Access Lex grew from a student loan provider to an organization that now runs multiple programs supporting law students and schools. He explains their bar prep platform Helix, which has helped reduce market prices by $1000 dollars, and discusses the significant changes coming with the 2026 Next Gen bar exam - a shift from memorization-based testing to practical legal skills assessment.
The conversation examines the structural challenges driving high law school costs...
2025-02-031h 04
POWER to Live More with Jo DoddsDavid Schnurman: The Success MindsetDavid Schnurman is the CEO of Lawline, the leading provider of online Continuing Legal Education (CLE) in the United States.
He is the recipient of several prestigious awards, including the EO Rockies Award for Resourcefulness and the Fastcase 50.
David is a frequent public speaker on topics close to his heart, including entrepreneurship, mindset, leadership, and culture, and the author of The Fast Forward Mindset: How to Be Fearless & Focused to Accelerate Your Success.
David has a love for adventure and discovery. In his off time, he has hiked the mountains of Patagonia, paraglided...
2025-01-3150 minLawyers Who Learn#19 Learning to Create a Law Practice That Runs Without YouIn this Lawyers Who Learn episode, host David Schnurman speaks with Beau Atkins, founder of Evolve Law, about transforming the traditional law firm model through entrepreneurial thinking. Atkins shares his journey from considering leaving law in 2019 to building a successful family law practice based entirely on fixed-fee and subscription pricing, targeting the underserved 79% of people who need legal services but are intimidated by traditional pricing structures.
The discussion explores multiple facets of Atkins' innovative approach: his systematic quarterly learning themes, his use of LinkedIn as a professional journal for networking and accountability, and his implementation of the...
2025-01-301h 14Lawyers Who Learn#18 Learning Through Listening: Building The Legal Tech Fund SummitIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman sits down with Zach Posner, Managing Partner at The Legal Tech Fund, for an insightful conversation about building relationships and fostering innovation in the legal technology space. Posner shares his journey from edtech entrepreneur to legal tech investor, offering a unique perspective as the first non-attorney guest on the show.
The conversation delves deep into how Posner and his team manage 15-20 daily conversations with industry stakeholders, building a vast network that has led to investments in over 60 companies. He discusses the creation of The Legal Tech...
2025-01-2845 minLawyers Who Learn#17 Learning Through Building Legal Tech BusinessesIn this engaging episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David interviews Basha Rubin, co-founder and CEO of Priori Legal, a tech-enabled legal marketplace connecting corporate clients with vetted attorneys. Having started Priori in 2013, Basha shares candid insights from her 12-year entrepreneurial journey, from initial conception to growing it into a successful platform with 8,000+ legal professionals.
The conversation covers the evolution of Priori from serving small businesses to enterprise clients, the challenges and lessons of raising $25 million in venture capital, and the delicate balance between building a billion-dollar company versus maintaining ownership control. Basha offers valuable advice for...
2025-01-2455 minLawyers Who Learn#14 Learning Through LegacyIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman engages in a heartfelt conversation with Justin Blitz, a seasoned personal injury attorney with a rich entrepreneurial spirit. They explore the parallels and differences in their career paths, delving into Blitz's unexpected shift from a budding career in music law to a successful journey in personal injury litigation.
Blitz shares emotional stories, including his first trial verdict, navigating family dynamics within the legal profession, and the profound impact of his father's legacy. The conversation also touches on the importance of lifelong learning, the evolving nature of legal...
2024-12-1650 minLawyers Who Learn#13 Learning Through Curiosity, Creation, and ConnectionIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman interviews Hani, an estate lawyer and Lawline power user. They discuss the importance of constant learning for attorneys and how Hani's dedication, particularly to leveraging Lawline courses, has fueled his legal career. The conversation delves into Hani's methods of learning, including listening to courses multiple times, engaging in study groups, and utilizing AI tools. They highlight the significance of curiosity, creation, and connection in the learning process, offering valuable insights for legal professionals eager to enhance their knowledge and skills.
2024-12-1048 minLawyers Who Learn#12 Learning to Build Tech-Savvy Law Firms for TomorrowIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, Lawline’s CEO David Schnurman interviews Dominic Rogger, a legal tech entrepreneur based in Zurich, Switzerland. Dominic shares his journey from traditional law practice to founding legal tech companies like Get Your Lawyer and managing a forward-thinking law firm, Ponte Nova. They discuss the transformative impact of AI and large language models (LLMs) on the legal industry, the evolution of legal practice management, and the future of law firms. Learn how to stay ahead in the rapidly changing legal landscape and build a competitive, tech-savvy law practice.
2024-12-0653 min
How I Tested ThatDavid Schnurman | How I Tested LawlineIn this conversation, David discusses his journey with Lawline, the largest provider of online continuing legal education in the U.S. He shares insights on building resilience in business, the importance of experimentation in product development, and navigating pricing strategies. David also highlights the role of conferences in fostering B2B relationships and the balance between B2B and B2C strategies. We explore the transformative power of experimentation in business, particularly in the context of legal education and the integration of AI. We discuss the importance of understanding customer behavior, the...
2024-12-0443 minLawyers Who Learn#9 Learning Through Being in An Alternative CareerIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, Lawline's CEO David Schnurman dives into the career path of Shahed Kader, an attorney who transitioned from a decade-long career in SaaS sales to founding his own law firm focused on legal services for technology companies.
The conversation highlights the importance of lifelong learning, mentorship, and practical strategies for integrating legal education into a full-time career.
Shahed shares insights on overcoming challenges, the value of sales experience, and leveraging CLE courses and AI tools like Lawline for continuous learning and professional growth.
The episode ends with...
2024-11-2255 minLawyers Who Learn#5 Learning Through Implementing Value-Based Pricing in Law Firms (Alternative Pricing 1 of 4)In part 1 of the Lawyers Who Learn series on Alternative Pricing, host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, chats with Shaun Jardine, author of Ditch the Billable Hour and CEO of Big Yellow Penguin. Shaun shares his journey from traditional billing practices to implementing a value-based pricing model in his law firm. Together they explore the the challenges of shifting from billable hours to value-based pricing, and the impact of AI on the future of legal practice.
Key topics include implementing change management, client communication, and the importance of scoping work accurately. Shaun also provides practical steps for...
2024-11-2151 minLawyers Who Learn#6 Learning Through Starting a Subscription Practice (Alternative Pricing 2 of 4)In part 2 of the Lawyers Who Learn series on Alternative Pricing, host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, welcomes Mathew Kerbis, a passionate advocate for subscription models in the legal industry. They discuss the nuances of value-based pricing versus traditional billing, the importance of continuous education, and the potential of AI tools like Descript.
Matthew shares his transition from big law to owning a subscription-based solo practice, emphasizing the power of mentorship and teaching as fundamentally intertwined with law practice. Tune in to get inspired and gain insights on adopting innovative legal service models to grow your legal...
2024-11-2155 minLawyers Who Learn#7 Learning the Importance of Law Firm Pricing Strategy (Alternative Pricing 3 of 4)In part 3 of the Lawyers Who Learn series on Alternative Pricing, Lawine CEO David Schnurman interviews Eddie Hartman, co-founder of LegalZoom and partner at Simon-Kucher, about the intricacies of pricing strategies within the legal industry. Eddie shares his career journey from tech enthusiast and lawyer to consultant specializing in pricing strategy for AmLaw 100 firms and legal tech companies.
The conversation delves into the nuances of pricing, highlighting the importance of value perception, the challenges of traditional hourly rates, and the potential impact of AI on legal pricing models. Eddie also provides insights into how future law firms...
2024-11-2145 minLawyers Who Learn#8 Learning Beyond the Billable Hour: Transforming Client Relationship (Alternative Pricing 4 of 4)In part 4 of the Lawyers Who Learn series on Alternative Pricing, Gwen Griggs, Managing Director of Advos Legal and Co-Founder of Advos Pro, shares her transformative journey from traditional billable hours to value-based pricing.
With Lawline's CEO David Schnurman, Gwen dives into the strategies that reshaped her legal practice: Embracing project management to deliver what clients need—on time and transparently. Building business models that value efficiency and client satisfaction. Creating a law firm where people—clients and team members alike—come first.
Beyond pricing, Gwen’s insights into forming supportive legal communities and coaching programs...
2024-11-1953 minLawyers Who Learn#4 Learning Through Participating in Bar ServiceIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, interviews Cali Franks-Field, a Texas-licensed attorney, CLE content creator, and advocate for lifelong learning. As a Program Attorney at Lawline, Cali works with top legal professionals to produce engaging CLE content and serves in leadership roles with the Dallas Association of Young Lawyers, ABA Young Lawyers Division, and Texas Young Lawyers Association. Based in Dallas-Fort Worth, she also honors her family’s legacy by serving on the board of the Dallas Firefighter’s Museum.
Cali shares how bar service has shaped her career, advancing her prof...
2024-11-0432 minLawyers Who Learn#3 Learning Through a Panic AttackIn this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman sits down with Daniel Gershburg, who opens up about starting his own practice, teaching CLE courses, and even navigating a panic attack during an in-person CLE presentation with Lawline. They discuss effective learning strategies, the importance of authenticity, and the transformative role of lifelong learning in personal and professional growth.
The episode also touches on leadership, management, and finding happiness in the legal profession.
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Daniel Gershburg is a partner at Konner Gershburg Melnick Darouvar in New York City, where he specializes in real estate...
2024-10-3138 minLawyers Who Learn#1 The Birth of Lawline: Learning Through Taking Calculated RisksIn this compelling episode of Lawyers Who Learn, Lawline CEO David Schnurman interviews his father, Alan Schnurman, exploring the origins of Lawline's launch 25 years ago and its evolution into the leading provider of online continuing legal education. Alan shares insights on the calculated risks and strategic decisions that contributed to the company’s success, despite challenges in the early internet age. The episode highlights stories of resilience, from overcoming adversity to achieving professional triumphs. It also delves into the integration of AI in legal education, real estate investment strategies, and the importance of maintaining strong professional relationships. This engaging di...
2024-10-2145 min
Joey Pinz Discipline Conversations#182 David Schnurman: Oaf to Barcelona to Lawline| Joey Pinz DisciplineSend us a textDavid Schnurman is the CEO of Lawline, the leading provider of online Continuing Legal Education (CLE) in the country. The company recently celebrated serving over 150,000 attorneys with over 5,000,000 courses completed. David is also the past president of Entrepreneurs Organization New York.David is the author of the book “The Fast Forward Mindset: How to Be More Fearless & Focused to Accelerate Your Success." This book shares a very simple formula to consistently break through your walls and fast forward your entrepreneurial success and happiness. He recently gave a TEDxYouth talk to high sc...
2023-02-1556 min
The Lawyer's EdgeDavid Schnurman | How To Be More Fearless and Focused To Accelerate Your SuccessDavid Schnurman is the CEO of Lawline, the leading provider of online Continuing Legal Education (CLE) in the country. He's also an author, speaker, and the past President of Entrepreneurs' Organization New York. David authored the book The Fast Forward Mindset: How to Be Fearless & Focused to Accelerate Your Success, which shares the simple formula to break through walls and fast forward your entrepreneurial success and happiness. Recently, David gave a TEDxYouth talk to inspire high school students to reach their full potential in life. Additionally, David frequently speaks on topics ranging from entrepreneurship, mindset, l...
2022-10-0445 min
Lawyers Who LeadLeading by Learning with David SchnurmanThis week, Sigalle sits down with David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, and the mentor of our host for nearly a decade. Lawline is the leading provider of online Continuing Legal Education (CLE) in the country. The company recently celebrated serving over 150,000 attorneys with over 5,000,000 courses completed.
David is also the past president of Entrepreneurs Organization New York. David is the author of the book The Fast Forward Mindset: How to Be More Fearless & Focused to Accelerate Your Success." This book shares a very simple formula to consistently break through your walls and fast forward your entrepreneurial success...
2022-05-3126 min
Rebelpreneur Radio with Ralph BrogdenDavid Schnurman: How to Be More Fearless and FocusedDavid Schnurman is the CEO of Lawline, the leading provider of online Continuing Legal Education (CLE) in the country. The company recently celebrated serving over 130,000 attorneys with over 3,000,000 courses completed. David is also the past president of Entrepreneurs Organization New York.David is the author of the book “The Fast Forward Mindset: How to Be More Fearless & Focused to Accelerate Your Success.” This book shares a very simple formula to consistently break through your walls and fast forward your entrepreneurial success and happiness. He recently gave a TEDxYouth talk to high school students to inspire them to reach thei...
2020-07-0930 min
Learning Life with Jon TotaEpisode 91: More Fearless and Focused with David Schnurman Lawline CEO and entrepreneurial speaker David Schnurman has a new book, ‘The Fast Forward Mindset: How to Be MoreFearless & Focused to Accelerate Your Success.’ Schnurman sits down with Jon to talk online learning and COVID-19, and the inspiration for The Fast Forward Mindset. Want to learn more about David Schnurman? Find him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidschnurman/ Or on his website: www.fastforwardmindset.com
2020-06-0915 min
Heart of Dad PodcastHeart of Dad Season 2 Episode 7 - David SchnurmanDavid Schnurman is the CEO of Lawline, the leading provider of online Continuing Legal Education (CLE) in the US.The company recently celebrated serving over 130,000 attorneys with over 3,000,000 courses completed. David is also the past president of Entrepreneurs Organization New York.David is the author of the book “The Fast Forward Mindset: How to Be More Fearless & Focused to Accelerate Your Success." This book shares a very simple formula to consistently break through your walls and fast forward your entrepreneurial success and happiness.He recently gave a TEDxYouth talk to high school students to...
2020-05-3051 min
60 Mindful MinutesDavid Schnurman: A Fast Forward Mindset for 2020Guest Bio David Schnurman is the author of The Fast Forward Mindset: How to be Fearless and Focused to Accelerate Your Success, which seeks to give readers a simple formula for consistently breaking through walls in order to attain more success and happiness. David is also the CEO of Lawline, a leading provider of online Continuing Legal Education, and he's been featured in Wall Street Journal, Inc. Magazine, Entrepreneur.com, and the New York Post. Description David Schnurman shares his passion for living life to the fullest, even when things don't g...
2019-12-2956 min60 Mindful MinutesDavid Schnurman: A Fast Forward Mindset for 2020Guest Bio David Schnurman is the author of The Fast Forward Mindset: How to be Fearless and Focused to Accelerate Your Success, which seeks to give readers a simple formula for consistently breaking through walls in order to attain more success and happiness. David is also the CEO of Lawline, a leading provider of online Continuing Legal Education, and he's been featured in Wall Street Journal, Inc. Magazine, Entrepreneur.com, and the New York Post. Description David Schnurman shares his passion for living life to the fullest, even when things don't g...
2019-12-2956 min
The Founder's MindDavid Schnurman - Founder & CEO of Lawline and Author of The Fast Forward MindsetDavid SchnurmanDavid & Adam go in-depth about the entrepreneurial Journey, about learning, the importance of books and gives us a special glimpse into his passion, personal stories, losses and the wins that brought him to the place he is in. David Schnurman is the CEO of Lawline, the leading provider of online Continuing Legal Education (CLE) in the country. The company recently celebrated serving over 130,000 attorneys with over 3,000,000 courses completed. David is also the current president of the Entrepreneurs Organization New York.David is the author of the book “The Fast Forward Mindset: How to...
2019-09-0400 min
Million Dollar MindDavid Schnurman of Lawline - Fast-Forward Your MindsetOn most podcasts, we hear from people at the “top of the mountain” (they got funded! they built billion dollar companies! they sold their company!).
On MDM we like to hear from top of the mountain entrepreneurs and we also want to learn from leaders who are still making the climb. Leaders who have built inspiring and successful businesses through perseverance, reinvention, asking for help, and making big mindset shifts.
David Schnurman is one of those leaders, and there’s a lot to learn from him and what he’s accomplished as CEO of Lawline, a multi-million dollar company based in New Yo...
2019-08-2934 min
The Chris Michael Harris PodcastEP196: BONUS EPISODE: Beating Fear + Transitioning From Service Provider to Selling Digital Products with David Schnurman, Founder of Lawline.comDavid Schnurman, Founder of Lawline.com, drops by talk about his new book, The Fast Forward Mindset, plus how to transition from Service Provider to selling Digital Products. Today's Sponsor: 99 Designs Continue Reading: Chrismichaelharris.com/ep196
2019-07-261h 26
Just Get StartedDavid Schnurman (Ep.54) - CEO, LawLine | Author, The Fast Forward MindsetEpisode 54 brings by David Schnurman, CEO of LawLine and Newly Minted Author of "The Fast Forward Mindset: How to Be Fearless & Focused to Accelerate Your Success."Had a phenomenal conversation with David about his entrepreneur journey and how "doing his own thing" almost never happened. He shares stories about learning from his Dad, going back to Law School, and how he got LawLine up and running. Additionally, we take a walk down the path to becoming an author and the launch of his new book. Was an extremely rich interview sprinkled with breadcrumbs to help any...
2019-06-0449 min
Feed Your Brain Podcast113 with David Schnurman, President of the EO Organization in New York and Founder of LawLine: How do you focus to accelerate success?David Schnurman is the President of the Entrepreneurs Organization in New York and the Co-founder of Lawline, the largest provider of online education for the legal services in the US. We will chat about his journey to become an entrepreneur.
2019-05-2649 min
Achieve Your Goals with Hal ElrodFast Forward Your Success with David SchnurmanI hope that you're proud of what you have accomplished in your life. Yet there may still be a voice inside your head that says you should be further along than you are right now. So, what's holding you back from having the impact you desire? The answer lies in getting out of your comfort zone and staying there. Doing this means becoming FEARLESS and FOCUSED so that you can take action and break through the mental walls that stand in your way. That is the "FFwd Mindset" and the topic of today's podcast. My...
2019-05-1541 min
The Dov Baron ShowDavid Schnurman The Fast Forward Mindset [audio]There is an ever increasing demand to move faster. But the truth is, as we move faster, it’s also easier to become more afraid. So the question becomes: How can you develop the mindset that will accelerate you and your business through the fear and on to greater and greater success? Well, stay tuned because our guest on this episode is David Schnurman, who speaks to this question and more. David is the founder and CEO of Lawline, the leading provider of online Continuing Legal Education (CLE...
2019-05-121h 01
Learning Life with Jon TotaEpisode 39: The Fast Foward Mindset with David SchnurmanDavid Schnurman makes an impact. The current president of EO (Entrepreneurs Organization) New York, Schnurman seeks opportunity in every moment in his personal and business life. His key to his success: never labeling a situation as bad or good. This outlook has allowed Schnurman to take action and reduce anxiety no matter the arena, rather than be hindered by his assumed fears. If you work with or are related to David, stay tuned until the end for a special message! Check out David's new book The Fast Forward Mindset: How to Be...
2019-04-0241 min
Daniel GershburgDavid Schnurman, CEO of Lawline.comDavid Schnurman is CEO of one of the most innovate CLE companies around. He stops by to discuss his views on starting a business, scaling, and the importance of content and quality in the products you put out.
2014-10-2132 min