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Debra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastCovenant launch secrets, funding fearsEpisode 36 dives deep into last week’s hush‑hush unveiling of the Government and Civil Society Covenant – complete with a last‑minute venue reveal, ministers packed shoulder‑to‑shoulder in the Science Museum, and a buffet so petite even Debra’s good humour wavered.Debra and Peter unpack the Covenant’s four headline principles, from independence and campaigning rights to data transparency, then tackle the big questions: Will it actually put money where its mouth is? Can small local charities speak truth to power without payback? And what sort of “teeth” would keep future governments from quietly binning the whole thing?Along th...2025-07-2434 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastInterviews❤️ This episode is dedicated to Jenny (2018 to 2025), Peter's beloved tabby. She will be deeply missed.Episode 35 is all about interviews – from both sides of the table.First up: preparing as a candidate. Debra shares straight-talking tips on researching the organisation, framing savvy questions and owning your nerves so they work for you instead of against you.Then: designing the interview itself. Peter explains why competence-based panels, timed tasks and values-based questions can reveal more than clever hypotheticals, and how to make applicants feel welcome while still stretching them.Finally: learning from the near-misses. Together they reflect on interviews that didn’t...2025-07-1732 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastChild Poverty, Live Aid at 40Episode 34! Debra and Peter take on two huge questions: why are a million UK children still living in destitution, and what can today’s charities learn from Live Aid’s 40‑year legacy?First, they unpack the latest numbers on child poverty and destitution, asking whether family‑hub plans and the long‑debated two‑child cap are really tackling the root causes, or just papering over widening cracks.Then it’s off to Wembley (in spirit) as the hosts reminisce about Live Aid’s goose‑bump moment and challenge the sector to balance headline‑grabbing fundraisers with the hard graft of systemic change...2025-07-1031 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastPets, Cassette Tapes and Persuasive WordsThis week Debra and Peter touch upon looking after your pets in a heatwave as well as hearing from beloved family members via old cassette tapes. They also discuss leadership challenges in-depth, including the power of the spoken word, how the words we use make such a powerful difference, government “U-turns” and alien visitors. They also discuss organisational consultations, engaging with staff and listening to them. And they talk about agreement vs alignment in terms of relationships with the Board.Subscribe and don’t miss the next episode!YouTube Subscribe: https://YouTube.com/@DSCOnlineMore Debra Allcock Tyler: https://www.linked...2025-07-0728 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastFunders' Voices, Impact and Remote WorkDebra recounts her journey (literally and metaphorically) to Leeds, where she gave a keynote to Yorkshire Funders. She dives into why funders must speak up more often, not to demand money but to influence change. Peter reflects on his own time at the Lottery and reinforces how insights from grantmakers can shape public policy in ways that quietly transform lives. The conversation then unpacks the obsession with short-term impact. What if some of the most meaningful change takes decades to surface? From the legacy of Sure Start to the language of transformational vs transactional funding, it’s a rich di...2025-06-2631 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastGetting Things Done, Valuing Volunteers, Dormant AssetsEpisode 31! Debra and Peter are back, tackling some hefty themes with their usual wit and wisdom.Peter kicks off with a fascinating dive into "The Art of Delivery", a new book exploring the real-world messiness of turning strategy into impact. From Prime Ministerial promises to classroom outcomes, and even drones in Ukraine, the duo reflect on what it really takes to get things done.That messiness also shows up in charity work, whether it’s launching a governance app or campaigning for change. They celebrate the power of persistence and share behind-the-scenes stories that prove successful delivery is as mu...2025-06-0530 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastCharity Politics and Think Tank TransparencyEpisode 30! That’s over 15 hours of Debra and Peter unpacking complex ideas and challenging assumptions!This week, Debra and Peter dive into some of the most complex issues in the charity sector. First up: political activity. Why are charities legally restricted from engaging in political campaigning, while businesses are free to openly support parties and candidates? They talk about the implications of this regulatory double standard and ask whether it's time for a serious rethink.Then, the spotlight turns to think tanks. Debra and Peter discuss the controversy surrounding the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) and question what qualifies an...2025-05-2932 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastPassports, Politics and PetsThis week's episode brings us a cracking mix of topics:Ever forgotten your passport before an international flight, or are you the one who turns up four hours early?Debra and Peter chat about the latest Sentencing Review and the absolutely vital role of criminal charities within it. They also share their views on the current political landscape, with the latest local elections and the rising prominence of Reform UK.And discuss the news about an asylum seeker bringing his dog to the UK by small boat, and how some media have sensationalised...2025-05-2230 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastImmigration and AIDebra and Peter have an interesting debate about immigration, prompted by Keir Starmer's recent speech on immigration in the UK and his comment: 'The UK risks becoming an island of strangers without strong rules on immigration and integration.'They also discuss Artificial Intelligence, commenting on the recent Neighbourly report that states that 80% of small charities are not using AI.The Charity AI Conference - https://www.dsc.org.uk/event/the-charity-ai-conference-setting-yourself-up-for-success/ 5 Rights Foundation: Children & AI Design Code - https://5rightsfoundation.com/children-and-ai-code-of-conduct/ Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode!YouTube Subscribe...2025-05-1531 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastPositive Framing and Navigating controversial issuesTune in to Episode 27 of 'Debra and Peter are doing a Podcast' for an insightful discussion on leadership, change management, and navigating complex issues in the charity sector. Debra and Peter explore the power of positive framing, and DSC's values of Excellence and Empathy. They also tackle the complexities of navigating controversial issues, including whether organizations should publicly share their opinions. Plus, Peter shares an inspiring motto to live by: Be brave, be kind, and be the best version of yourself.Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode!YouTube Subscribe: YouTube...2025-05-0829 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastHealth and asking 'difficult silly' questionsAfter a week's break for Easter to recharge our batteries (unlike Peter's car), we are back with a new episode, where Debra and Peter discuss health and the importance of sharing information (especially between Trustees, Chairs, and Executives) as well as the value of asking challenging questions. As the cricket season progresses and Peter's team is unfortunately underperforming, Peter asks Debra how to approach these leadership situations and how to find the balance between challenge and support and Debra provides a key recommendation: LEARN, ADAPT, and EVOLVE.Send your...2025-05-0132 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastQuestions and AnswersSpecial episode number 25 where Debra and Peter answer the questions you've sent us during the week! What's one of your career highlights? Favourite campaign you've been involved in? Best advice would you give to someone starting a career in the charity sector?...and more! Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode!YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock TylerLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter WanlessLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory of Social...2025-04-1735 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastAre there too many charities?In today's episode, Debra and Peter discuss about this topic, which came up in a meeting they both attended in person. In connection with OXFAM's announcement about jobs at risk to save £10m, our presenters talk about the message left by the article when mentioning the 'efficiency of charities'. And on a more positive note, they both commented on the news about The Henry Smith Charity giving its grant holders a one-off payment later this year to cover the remainder of their current grant!And to celebrate next week's episode 25, we are asking our listeners to send us questions f...2025-04-1030 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastA sesquicentennial tie and SentebaleIn this week's episode, Peter dresses for the occasion, with a tie to celebrate the 150th anniversary of his cricket club, Somerset, of which he is president.And speaking of presidents, Debra and Peter dive into a chat about Sentebale, giving their opinion on the importance of good governance and how patrons, CEOs, and trustees should work together.Peter ends up recommending Debra's book 'It's a Battle on the Board' once again, and Debra recommends 'The Governance App - a free tool for trustees to review and improve their governance. www.thegovernanceapp.org...2025-04-0334 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastLeaked plans, accidental messages and new projectsIn this new episode, Debra and Peter discuss the risks charities face when using messaging apps like WhatsApp to send confidential information (as has happened to the U.S. government with the leaked messages detailing plans for a military operation against the Houthis in Yemen).Debra shares a personal story involving her dog, some drinks, and a text sent to a government official!And Peter also shares about his new role as a Consultant for Nord Anglia Education.Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode!YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More...2025-03-2734 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastHorse Racing, Financial Year and narrativesAs we mentioned last week, in this episode Debra and Peter talk about horses (horse racing to be more specific), their experiences and opinions about it. They also talk about the financial year that many charities now have at the end of March, the National Insurance changes and balancing the books, followed by different statistics and how narratives can change the concept we have about some data. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode!YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock TylerLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https...2025-03-2030 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDress codes and World Book DayEpisode number 20! And Debra and Peter talk about dress codes, the unwritten rules about men clothing, the privilege of being at the top of your career to dress more freely, having to dress up children for different occasions at school, like for World Book Day (which was last week), and speaking of books...Peter and Debra share some of their favourite books, what they are reading now, some books that had a big impact on their lives and the type of books they don't usually read! And next week...we talk about horses! Books recommended:Thinking Fast and Thinking...2025-03-1337 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDealing with difficult people; making tough decisionsIn this week's episode, Debra and Peter discuss Zelensky's meeting with Trump and the similarities sometimes found in the charity sector when dealing with difficult people. They also talk about making tough decisions, as a result of the increased defence budget in the UK, which would also mean a reduction in overseas aid funding. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode!YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock TylerLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter WanlessLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372...2025-03-0634 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDisasters, triumphs and It's a Battle on the BoardThe 'twins' are back with disasters and triumphs they've experienced this week. Peter gives a review of the book he is reading: It's a Battle on the Board (written by Debra 😁) and they give their opinion on the report written by More in Common about Progressive Activists. Click here to find out more about It's a Battle on the Board: https://www.dsc.org.uk/publication/its-a-battle-on-the-board/ You can find the More in Common report about Progressive Activists here: https://www.moreincommon.org.uk/our-work/research/progressive-activists/ Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the...2025-02-2733 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastPets, Ukraine and LeadershipAre your pets running your life? Debra and Peter definitely are! But that’s not all they are chatting about this week. They are also talking about the Russia-US meeting regarding Ukraine, and the similarities we see in the charity sector when trustees make decisions without their beneficiaries’ opinions, and why diversity in leadership matters more than ever. Plus, a shoutout to Simon Lancaster and his insightful book, ‘You Are Not Human.’Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode!YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock TylerLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/d...2025-02-2030 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastTime, Trains and TrusteesHow much is your time worth? Should broadband be a public utility? Are train drivers paid too much or too little? Debra and Peter answer these questions in today's episode and share their top tips for being a good trustee. You won't want to miss it!Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode!YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock TylerLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter WanlessLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory...2025-02-1331 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastThe Health Secretary's Controversial RemarksIn this episode, Debra and Peter dive into the recent controversial comments made by the Health Secretary, Wes Streeting, that have left many in the voluntary sector feeling like Debra: livid and confused. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory of Social Change https://www.dsc.org.uk Podcast Producer: José B...2025-02-0634 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastMrs. Thatcher, other PMs and the Royal Albert HallWith just a few days left until the 50th anniversary of her leadership of the Conservative Party, and having been mentioned recently by various politicians in their speeches, today Debra and Peter take a trip down memory lane to talk about Mrs. Thatcher. They also share some of their personal experiences meeting other Prime Ministers and their experiences of when they voted for the first time in a General Election. And also give their opinions on the Royal Albert Hall Bill. If you want to better understand politics, this is the book Debra recommends: How Westminster Works . . . and Why...2025-01-3032 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastFake plants, fake news and politicsThis week's episode Debra and Peter talks about fake plants, segueing into fake news and the latest political news about Donald Trump and his executive order on gender identity. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory of Social Change https://www.dsc.org.uk Podcast Producer: José Blázquez2025-01-2332 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastThe Traitors, child protection and 2025 updatesThe first episode of the year features our hosts talking about The Traitors, Peter shares his opinion with Debra about the latest child protection enquiry, and they chat about various topics from cricket, to Elon Musk or raw-dogging flights. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory of Social Change https://www...2025-01-1631 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastChristmas Special EpisodeIn this Christmas special episode, Debra and Peter share their thoughts on the Chancellor's orders for ministers to submit spending plans to private sector experts without including charity sector experts, infrastructure charities, and their Christmas plans. This will be the last episode of the year! Debra and Peter will be back with a new episode on January 9th. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https...2024-12-1235 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastLeague tables and Remote WorkingEpisode 10! Debra and Peter share their opinions on school performance tables (league tables) and remote working. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory of Social Change https://www.dsc.org.uk Podcast Producer: José Blázquez2024-12-0530 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastCharity Collaborations and Charity AdsIn this episode, Debra and Peter chat about how charities have been collaborating more since COVID-19, and charity ads and the impact of recent campaigns on the media. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory of Social Change https://www.dsc.org.uk Podcast Producer: José Blázquez2024-11-2830 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastBlackpool Better Start and 4 day working weekIn this episode, Peter talks about the annual Blackpool Better Start conference that he chaired last week, and Debra shares the experience of DSC transitioning from working Monday to Friday to a 4-day workweek (or a 3-day weekend, as we like to call it at DSC). Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced...2024-11-2130 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastSchool Systems and Charity CEO gender pay gapIn this week's episode, Debra and Peter discuss the education system and the report published by ACEVO on the pay gap of charity CEOs. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory of Social Change https://www.dsc.org.uk Podcast Producer: José Blázquez2024-11-1432 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastChat GPT poems, Autumn Budget and US ElectionsIn this week's episode, Debra and Peter talk about the first Labour Budget in nearly 15 years and what will be the impact on different sectors, and their first impressions about the results of the US Elections. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory of Social Change https://www.dsc.org.uk ...2024-11-0728 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastHealthy skepticism and disrupting power dynamicsIn this week's episode, Debra and Peter find themselves momentarily agreeing with each other! They chat about the Governments relationship with the charity sector, the importance of disrupting power dynamics, the positives and negatives of direct action and much more. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory of Social Change https...2024-10-3132 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDisconnecting on holidays, speeches and rich peopleOn this week's episode, Debra and Peter talk about disconnecting from work during holidays and resisting the temptation to check work emails, the art of public speaking, and the ethical implications of accepting donations from any individual. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ 2024-10-2431 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastLocal News, AI and Social MediaFollowing on last week's conversation, Debra and Peter talk about the problems with gender-based clothing that reinforces an unhealthy difference between men and women, the challenges in local news for charities, the power of AI, and the downfall of Twitter (X). Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory of Social Change...2024-10-1731 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastCricket, Constructive Feedback and Accepting GiftsIn this episode of 'Debra and Peter are doing a Podcast' the pair chat about the similarities between running a cricket team and running a charity, the importance of productive feedback, accepting gifts as a charity leader and gender-based clothing. Send your questions to jblazquez@dsc.org.uk or comment below for the next episode! YouTube Subscribe: YouTube.com/@DSCOnline More Debra Allcock Tyler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-allcock-tyler-8013214/ Twitter: https://x.com/DebAllcockTyler More Peter Wanless LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sir-peter-wanless-b43aa372/ Twitter: https://x.com/peterwanless Produced by: Directory of Social Change https...2024-10-1030 minDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastDebra and Peter are doing a PodcastBirthdays, Campaigns and Performative Allyship Welcome to the new podcast Debra and Peter are doing a Podcast! Our hosts, Debra Allcock Tyler (CEO, DSC) and Peter Wanless (CEO, NSPCC) have a lot in common. They’re both charity CEOs, they share their birthday (same day, month and year, but not related!) and now, they are teaming up for a weekly podcast! Tune in as they chat about different topics, from their experiences as charity sector leaders, to politics, cricket and more! In this first episode, the pair talk about what it feels like to turn 60, the importance of collaborative campaigning and taking time out wi...2024-10-0337 min