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Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Crouton EpisodeAnd we aren't talking about Caesar salad... Kara and Des are joined in-person by a very special guest on this one. She isn't very talkative, but they can't stop interacting with her throughout the show. You might jump over to YouTube for the full experience on this one. This episode is a good one that is absolutely jam-packed. You get all of the life updates from both. Des gives us the rundown on pacing Western States and her epic, hut-to-hut trip in Switzerland, where she learned the magic of trekking poles. Now, trekking poles might...2025-07-231h 19
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraOh Ruth... (Bonus Episode!)You asked for it, and here it is. This is a bonus episode with Des and Kara's freshy fresh takes on the Ruth Chepngetich doping positive and provisional suspension. Ruth shocked the world with a 2:09 WR at the Chicago Marathon last year, and now, it appears that it wasn't real, even as the WR will likely still stand. If you are curious about their reactions, stop everything and press play. Plus, come back for our regularly scheduled programming on Tuesday, July 22nd when our next episode will land!2025-07-1848 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Faith EpisodeWho is ready for Faith Kipyegon's sub-4-mile attempt?!? We are! Des and Kara are big Faith fans, and they are excited to tune in to the attempt on Thursday. But, what do they really think about it and will she get it?!? Listen in to find out what they think, but be ready for SO MUCH MORE! Des and Kara start with the usual catch-up chat. You get updates on Des's pacing duties at Western States this weekend and her plans for a running trip to the Swiss Alps after that. Kara shares about her 5K...2025-06-2557 min
Ali on the Run ShowDes Linden, Western States Endurance Run Pacer "I’m laser focused. This is serious." She's the 2018 Boston Marathon champion. She's the co-host of Nobody Asked Us with Des and Kara. She's one of the most admired, most accomplished, and most respected distance runners of our time, and now, Des is taking it to the trails. After running her final professional marathon in Boston in April, Des's next big adventure will be pacing friend Joe McConaughy at the Western States Endurance Run in just a few weeks. In this conversation, Des talks about what her pacing duties will entail, what training camp was like, and wh...2025-06-111h 06
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Tracklandia Episode"It's free. After you pay for it, it's free. Just a one-time fee, that you pay annually." - Portlandia cell phone episode + most track streaming services, probably, but NOT Portland Track Fest (which is truly free to stream!) In this episode, Portland Track president Jeff Merrill joins the show! Jeff is a former 800m runner himself who spent time at Nike before getting involved with the Portland Track Festival and starting tracklnd.com and Tracklandia. His meet is THIS weekend in Portland, so see the notes below on how to support, attend, or watch (FREE!) from afar. 2025-06-111h 07
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Library EpisodePulling up to this episode is like pulling up to your local library... it's got a little bit of everything in it, except for hopefully those pesky midwestern ticks. The episode opens with the usual intro banter, where Des characterizes Kara as being in "librarian mode." If Kara is the librarian, then that makes Des the person who is relentlessly trying to make you laugh in there. Thus, we are off to a good start riffing about summers in the midwest, travel, and camps. Kara talks about winning an Emmy(!) and about Colt graduating from 8t...2025-05-281h 14
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraSave the 10,000, the Cooldown EpisodeThey warmed you up with plenty of pre-race content, Des and Kara and the athletes delivered on exciting races, and now it's time for the cooldown! Des and Kara recap the Save the 10,000 with all of their reactions and lessons learned. They give you even more build-the-scenes details of the event and discuss whether or not there will be a year 2 for the event. But first, there is plenty of intro banter on Des's post-Boston recovery and Kara's Mother's Day with the family. They also give you some teasers on Des's fall racing schedule. Is i...2025-05-131h 11
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraKara's History with the 10,000To get you excited about Saturday night's Save the 10,000 with Des and Kara, this episode is all about Kara's history with the event. She talks about 10,000m legends Lynn Jennings and Billy Mills and how they inspired her to want to be an Olympian. She gives the story of how she WALKED in her very first 10,000 on the track, seemingly swearing off the event for good. She details coming back to the distance at later time and surprising herself in her 2nd attempt at the distance. Then of course, she shares the play-by-play on her historic medal...2025-05-0139 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraSave the 10,000 Preview ShowIt's race week. Are you ready for this?!? Cue the 2 Unlimited music in your head! In this episode, Trevor Rhodes joins the show. He is the race director for the meet, and the event wouldn't have happened with him. Des, Kara, and Trevor take you behind the scenes on putting together the Save the 10,000 with Des and Kara. They talk about the budget, key decisions, prize money, the elite fields, and give you some exciting race-week announcements. They also give special thanks to you for showing up in a big way for the virtual race...2025-05-0140 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraOn Des Going Out on Top"People say you should go out on top, and that's what I am doing - because getting to race my final professional marathon in Boston is indeed going out on top." - Des Linden Those are the words she shared via an ad in the Boston Globe placed and paid for by her and released on race morning. Then, she did indeed go out on top... running 2:26 (as she predicted) and finishing as the first masters finisher against a stacked 40+ field. In this episode, Des gives us the breakdown of her final professional marathon in Boston including...2025-04-291h 15
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraLive from Boston 2025!Live from WBUR Cityspace, this is the 2025 version of Des and Kara from Boston. In this episode, you get all of the normal, fun banter plus a section-by-section rundown of the Boston course from their experiences. If you are racing on Monday, then this is a must-listen before you toe the line for plenty of inspiration and some great course intel. For everyone else, there is plenty of humor and fun anecdotes to go around. Thank you to WBUR for hosting and to Brooks Running for their title sponsorship of the podcast! 2025-04-1955 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe New Leaf EpisodeSpring time is here. The leaves are returning to the trees, and we are turning over new ones. Some new leaves in this episode: new Brooks foams and new track meets, plus massages (!), excursions (!), and a lot of breaking news for Save the 10,000. This episode starts with an update on Des's build to Boston and her plans for the upcoming taper. She details one of her final big workouts and talks about how she listens to her body (vs. a rigid plan) during these final weeks. She also bought not one, not two, but THREE ma...2025-04-091h 07
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Vibes Episode (aka the Chafing Episode)This episode is a vibe all to its own, and you know it's is a good one when hilarious stuff comes up in the most random of ways. This episode isn’t about chafing, but you get plenty of hilarious (and perhaps a little disgusting) banter on it. Elite or not… every runner can relate to that. What else do we have in this one? Let’s see…lost toenails, disgusting feet, how-to’s on post-chafing showers, socks or no socks(?), the 90’s style comeback, OnlyFans, beef with the social media trolls, Disney PTSD, pillow preferences...2025-03-261h 05
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraSave the 10,000 Launch EpisodeNobody asked Des and Kara to put on a 10,000 meter track race, but as is the theme for this podcast, here we are! It's officially official. The Save the 10,000 with Des and Kara is happening on Saturday, May 3rd at Mt. San Antonio College (aka Mt. SAC) in Walnut, CA. Listen to this episode for all of the details, and then head to http://savethe10000.com to sign up for the virtual race, get tickets, and check out other ways to support. Des and Kara are putting up their own money to make this thing happen with...2025-03-111h 03
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Introspection EpisodeIt was Adam Goucher's birthday last week. He turned 50. Happy birthday Adam(!) and thank you for prompting the introspection that is a theme throughout the episode. It starts with the introspection of hitting age milestones as Kara and Des discuss how it felt hitting 30 and 40 and how they might feel hitting 50. Then, they talk about the introspection of retirement, including how it felt for Kara to retire from running and how she might think about retiring from this latest phase of her career. Des joins in with some hilarious conjecture about disappearing altogether once she is done w...2025-02-261h 09
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Indoor World Record EpisodeIf you can't get excited about track from listening to these two talk, then you should have your head examined and your pulse checked! Their enthusiasm for the sport is contagious. In this episode, they start with life updates including recent travels for them both. Des updates us on her trip to Kona and on her Boston prep, and Kara shares about her recent trips for broadcasting. Colt had an amazing opportunity to chase a mile PR at the Armory Track in NYC with the NBC cameras rolling, and Kara gives us the full rundown. Operation #DestroyColt...2025-02-121h 17
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Sweaty Armpit Episode"I could be wrong, but I know I'm not." - Kara Goucher. You know it's a good episode when Kara drops that quote. In this episode, Des and Kara cover a topic that you DID ask for. They give you their hot takes on the return of Shelby Houlihan from her 4-year ban. As you might expect, it is complicated, so find some paper towels and put them under those armpits... it gets warm-ish in here over the second half of the episode. First, they recap an amazing weekend in Houston with their p...2025-01-291h 10
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraBehind the Scenes of the 2012 Olympic Marathon Trials in HoustonWhat a race weekend in Houston! Des and Kara were so happy to be a part of it, including our largest live show yet with 500 people in attendance on Saturday. Thank you to everyone who came out for the show and to Brooks Running and the Houston Marathon team for the hospitality all weekend. In this episode, Des and Kara give you predictions for the races in Houston, which are even more fun now that we know the actual results. Then, they go behind the scenes of the 2012 Olympic Marathon Trials in Houston, where Des and Kara m...2025-01-201h 07
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Contract EpisodeWelcome to Season 3 of Nobody Asked Us with Des and Kara presented by Brooks Running! This is a FUN and INFORMATIVE episode to kick off 2025. Des and Kara start with their usual catch-up banter, updating us on their holiday and New Year activities. Des shares her excitement about another Boston start line coming in April. Kara gives updates on her running with dystonia. They both share hot-takes on the new Aaron Rodgers documentary on Netflix, so mark that off on your 2025 bingo card. Plus as a bonus, they give other TV and movie recs for your TV-binging...2025-01-141h 06
I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein PodcastEpisode 585: Kara Goucher and Des Linden: Nobody Asked Us!
In this episode, I’m joined by two of my favorite people in the running World—Kara Goucher and Des Linden. That’s right, these two incredible women are not only co-hosts of the podcast Nobody Asked Us, but they’re also beloved athletes in the running world. Both have been on this show multiple times, and it’s always such a pleasure to chat with them. Kara, who used to host The Relay podcast with me (a short-lived but super fun time, we all miss her over there!!), and of course, Des—who we all know for her unforgettable 2...2025-01-1000 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Sister Episode, Kara EditionThe most important link you need today is this one: https://performingartshouston.org/events/nobody-asked-us-with-des-kara-2025-01-18-400-pm/. Go get your tickets for the Houston live show coming up on Saturday, January 18th at 4 pm! Beyond that, listen to this feel-good episode with Kara and her sisters to round out 2024. Happy New Year everyone!2024-12-311h 13
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe You're Welcome EpisodeAny good Nobody Asked Us episode will make you laugh AND cry, and this one is no different. For this latest installment, Des and Kara cover a hodgepodge of topics, mostly by catching up on their personal lives, and you will learn something new about each of them along the way. Or, maybe you knew about Bougie Des and Homebody Kara already?! Kara talks about her experiences having her knee drained (!) and watching Colt crush it at the National Junior Olympic XC Championships, while Des gives us the play-by-play on her adventures living the Kiwi-trail life in New Zealand. Kara shar...2024-12-181h 13
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Sister Episode, Des EditionWe have a very special guest for this episode, and you won't want to miss it! In fact, this might be the episode to watch on YouTube if that isn't your normal routine. [Don't forget to hit subscribe while you are there.] Introducing... Natalie Steele, Des's older and taller and wiser(?) sister! She joins the show to spill all of the dirt on Des while gushing on her a little bit too. You get an inside peak into their lives as sisters as Kara asks all of the questions you might want to know, including:2024-12-031h 08
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Nemesis EpisodeOh my... where do we start with this episode goodness?!? The highlight of this episode is the long-awaited podcast face-off between Des and her arch-nemesis Dakotah Popehn, nee Lindwurm. They trash talk with all of the intensity of two cats playing with a furry ball before licking each other clean. Combine that with Kara's Minnesota accent showing out in the presence of another Minnesotan, and you can imagine that this episode gets as heated as a cozy, warm blanket on a cold winter's day. Yes, it's amazing... Dakotah gives us the inside scoop on her...2024-11-201h 08
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraFreshy Fresh from the NYC Finish LineFirst of all, we have to give a massive shout-out to TCS for hosting the Freshy Fresh in their space, right behind the NYC Marathon finish line. They were amazing hosts and also amazing title sponsors for the race, contributing to all of the vibes of the day. We also love how they are using technology to upgrade the runner, the spectator, and the at-home audience experience in so many ways. Plus, they are huge supporters of the podcast, and we love them for it. Thank you TCS! This episode was recorded just a few hours after...2024-11-041h 00
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraLive from NYC 2024!Live from the Brooks Hyperion House in NYC... it's Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara! For those running on Sunday (tomorrow), we highly recommend you listen today or on your way to the start. This one is jammed with tips to get your mind and body ready for this NYC Marathon course. Plus, you get some bonus content on Halloween costumes vs. NYC fashion, the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and what Des and Kara used to think when racing each other. Thank you to our live audience for all of the great questions! Also...2024-11-0253 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraChicago Marathon Recap (or Rampage?)We are posting this early because we know you need some fun and feisty content for your weekend long runs. This one is all about Chicago, and Kara promises that it could be a rampage discussing the new world record set by Ruth Chepngetich. Is it or is it not? You be the judge, but we can promise the discussion will be different than you think. This episode represents precisely why Des and Kara started this podcast in the first place. Nobody asked them, and nobody talks about these topics the way they do. Also, HUGE shout-outs to Brooks athletes CJ...2024-10-191h 11
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraLive from Chicago 2024![New album cover alert!] Another year, another live podcast from Chicago, and this one was even bigger with 250+ in attendance! This episode has everything you would want from a live podcast including a completely-unplanned, surprise guest, who turned Kara into a little bit of an awkward mess ;). The show starts with some life and travel updates. Des shares how her latest 2 x 6 mile marathon workout went in prep for NYC, and Kara talks about her disdain for airports and Halloween. Don't worry... the whole bit is saved by images of Des as the S...2024-10-121h 00
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Deep Breath EpisodeWow, there were a lot of emotions and opinions coming out of last week's episode, and we appreciated them all, mostly. Some of the internet haters get a little too excited, but we know that comes with the territory. Well, today... we get to take a deep breath and enjoy this new episode. No controversies to be seen in this one *wink wink*. Des and Kara start with extended life update. Des updates us on her prep for NYC, and Kara shares her painful experience get PRP in her hip. They talk baseball (go Tigers and Padres...2024-10-081h 16
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Boston KerfuffleThis episode features a reluctant guest to talk about the recent changes to the Boston qualifying standards announced by the BAA last week. Yes, Kara dragged me (your editor who is also a running coach) kicking and screaming into this one! We start with some life updates from Kara and Des. Kara shares that she and Adam recently celebrated their 23rd wedding anniversary in Estes Park with a nothing but "Netflix and chill." TMI perhaps? We aren't sure she knows the full meaning of that vernacular, but you do get some Netflix recommendations from her! Des shares...2024-09-241h 17
SingletrackKara Goucher | The Longest RaceText us your thoughts about this episode or ideas for future episodes!After reading her book, "The Longest Race: Inside the Secret World of Abuse, Doping, and Deception on Nike's Elite Running Team", I was eager to connect with Kara Goucher for an in-depth conversation.For those less familiar with the road running scene, Kara was one of the top American distance runners of the 2000s and 2010s, achieving podium finishes at prestigious events like the Boston and New York City Marathons, as well as the 2012 Olympic Marathon Trials. She also claimed victory at the...2024-09-2048 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraOut with the Old, in with the New… MERCH!This episode is a sneaky one. It seems like everything is business as usual… and then suddenly… BOOM… fireworks! Don’t worry though, everyone still has all their fingers. Listen carefully though because there are fun revelations sprinkled throughout. At the start, Kara gives us a Colt and house update, where she reveals the one item that she is likely to hoard. Des answers with her tendency to hoard books and… NEW MERCH! Nobody asked me, but I think you may want to hoard it as well. They then dig into a host of current event upda...2024-09-111h 16
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraLife Updates from Des and KaraYou might have been looking for this episode last week, but things got a little crazy, particularly for Kara. She fills you in on all of the scary details that put Colt in the hospital for nearly a week. He is recovering well and at home now, but it was touch-and-go for a little bit as he ended up with a fluke infection in his chest. In the meantime, Des was announced in the field for the NYC Marathon, and she shares how it has been challenging to find her motivation recently, especially with a banged up b...2024-09-031h 08
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Elephant and Humble Pie, Your Final Olympics RecapThe mood was spicy for this one, fueled by Olipop and post-Olympics sleep deprivation and jetlag! The result is yet another banger episode from Des and Kara. This one starts with some fun behind-the-scenes intel on the Olympic Village and why athletes might choose to stay outside of it. Then, they very thoroughly address THE elephant in the room, giving their perspectives on the criticism Fiona O'Keeffe has received for not dropping from the marathon. You might have your opinion on this, but I promise you that Des and Kara will teach you a side o...2024-08-151h 36
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraFreshy Fresh from Paris, the Joy of Track Day SevenFirst, we have to thank a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping to make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors for this episode - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Super Coffee - for their support in Paris. To get your Super Coffee fix, use code NOBODYASKED for 20% off on Amazon. This episode covers it all from track day seven - the jumps, the sprints, the hurdles, and of course, the distance events. Plus...2024-08-091h 01
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraFreshy Fresh from Paris, a S-Hocker on Track Day Five!First of all, we have to thank a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping to make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop - for their support for these episodes in Paris. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. Ok, ok... people DID ask for this one, and you got it! This one is 95% about th...2024-08-0736 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraFreshy Fresh from Paris, the Drama of Track Day FourFirst of all, we have to thank a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping to make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop - for their support for these episodes in Paris. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. This episode is jammed packed with so much good stuff. You've got behind-the-scenes broadcasting intel, American...2024-08-061h 09
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraFreshy Fresh from Paris, Quick Hits from Track Day ThreeFirst of all, we have to thank a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop - for their support for these episodes in Paris. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. In this episode, you get quick hits on the semi-final rounds of the men's 1500m with all...2024-08-0520 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraFreshy Fresh from Paris, Track Day Two (aka the Doink Episode)Thank you to a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping to make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop - for their support for these episodes in Paris. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. For the sprint, throws and pole vault fans, this one is for you. They breakdown the women's 100m final, the m...2024-08-0454 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraFreshy Fresh from Paris, the Emotion of Track Day One!First of all, we have to thank a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop for their support for these episodes in Paris. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. The show notes will be brief so we can get these up quickly. In this one, Des and K...2024-08-0352 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Friendship EpisodeEditor's note: Des and Kara will blame me for this episode, while I would like to take credit. You be the judge! The overview of this episode is pretty straightforward. Des and Kara catch up on their lives as usual... they preview a few Olympic events... they answer some questions from a friendship/partner Q&A and then finish with another Olipop Top 5. Simple enough and yet oh so good. You don't want to miss this one! Some early content teasers: Team Pasta and/or Team Past (thank you Barilla)! Des's ideal birthday and birthday g...2024-07-241h 12
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Birthday Girl EpisodeIs it your birthday, girl? 'Cause you lookin' like a present Is it your birthday, girl? Let's celebrate it Is it your birthday, girl? Make a wish, 11:11 Is it your birthday, girl? Let's celebrate it.- Lizzo It's Kara's birthday, and of course we are celebrating with this latest episode of Nobody Asked Us presented by Brooks Running. There are so many presents in this one... Kara hopped up on Super Coffee. Per usual, crazy intro banter. Some love for your 40s. Stories of Des lifting weights?! Recaps from the final two days...2024-07-091h 36
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraLive from the Oly Trials in Eugene (aka the Pontooncast!)Note: there is a little bit of background noise on the audio for this episode, but it goes away after 3 minutes and 5 seconds. This episode is being posted from producer Chris's vacation so forgive the brevity of the show notes! Des and Kara recorded this on Saturday morning in Eugene, live from the Runnerspace House. And yes... they did it from a pontoon stage! They give you event recaps from Thursday and Friday of the Trials, plus previews of the weekend's events. You can now listen to see if their predictions came true! [Don't worry...2024-07-0358 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Freshy Fresh Oly Trials (First Half) Recap EpisodeIt's a rest day in Eugene, but Des and Kara aren't resting. They droppin' this freshy fresh recap episode like it's oh so hot. The Gs know what we talkin' about... Now, button up your pastel polos because this episode has a little bit of everything, including all of the laughs you expect and insights you can't get anywhere else. Kara starts with a behind-the-scenes description of calling races with NBC including the Snoop Dogg cameo during the men's steeplechase final. Did she play it cool or did she unleash her inner 17-year-old and lose...2024-06-261h 36
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraBonus NCAA Champs Recap + Oly Trials Preview!If you think this will be a typical recap + preview show, then you don't know Des and Kara well enough! Yes, you get event recaps from the NCAA Track and Field Championships, and you get race previews from 800m to 10000m for the Olympic Trials, including all of their reactions and sleeper picks. But... you also get another Kara Goucher sliding-doors moment, info on a family member that Des can't keep up with on the run, hot takes on spiky super shoes, NIL deals, athletes turning pro, the unsponsored Eric Holt, the newly unsponsored Fred...2024-06-181h 19
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Justice EpisodeProsecutors and YouTube subscribers take note: Des and Kara allegedly recorded this episode in the same hoodies that they would wear to conceal their identities during a future crime. If you are watching the security cam video, Des is the one in the "nice" hoodie. What would be their crime you ask??? I don't know... maybe they could steal the job of the World Athletics marketing director?! Now, that's a crime they could pull off flawlessly... I'm not sure about any other ;). Speaking of justice, this episode is all about that. Des and Kara talk about justice f...2024-06-121h 17I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein PodcastEpisode 534: Des Linden – Live at the Bayshore Marathon
This episode is my conversation with the one and only Des Linden. We recorded this live at the Bayshore Marathon Weekend in Traverse City, Michigan at the historic City Opera House. This was such a fun event and I was so grateful to sit down with Des for this live show!
Des does not really need an introduction here, I don’t think, but in case you don’t know Des, she is a two -time Olympian and she’s the 2018 Boston Marathon champion. She’s the author of the book, Choosing to Run. She’s run for Brooks...2024-05-3100 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraAppealing to ReasonWhat is Beethoven's favorite fruit? Ba-na-na-naaa. (Insert the music from Beethoven's Symphony No. 5). We need the dramatic music for this one as Des and Kara dive deep into some serious topics, as only they can. Ba-na-na-naaa. Des and Kara talk about the misplaced anger against the BAA over Buzunesh Deba's unpaid prize money. Ba-na-na-naaa. Des and Kara discuss why the "Top American" moniker and prize pools might be counter-productive. Ba-na-na-naaa. Des and Kara dissect the Olympic qualifying standards and process from World Athletics. 2024-05-291h 16
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Third Wheel"The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last." - Willy Wonka. Sadly (or happily?) it didn't last... In this episode, you learn a little bit more about me (the podcast editor and show-notes writer) and what it's like to be a third wheel to two of the best to ever do it. Mine is the wobbly wheel to be sure. You learn about how my role in this project came to be including some "behind-the-scenes" stories from the very beginning. We answer "pressing" questions like: How did I get to know Des a...2024-05-141h 19
Unfiltered WatersDes LindenIn this captivating episode, we dive into the world of marathon running with the incomparable Des Linden. As a two-time Olympian, 2018 Boston Marathon champion, and Masters World Record Holder, Des brings a wealth of experience and insight to the table.
We start by delving into Des's recent performance at the Boston Marathon, exploring her emotions and reflections on the race. From there, we explore her journey from track to marathon running, highlighting the challenges and triumphs along the way.
Des doesn't shy away from discussing the mental aspect of racing, offering va...2024-05-081h 04
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraTaylor & Boston & Uniforms, Oh My!Yes, it's been a long fortnight since the last Nobody Asked Us episode, but Taylor needed the space and so did we. This episode starts innocently enough with an off-the-rails intro and then Des and Kara reveal the clandestine use of four contest words in past episodes. Kara illicitly tried to throw you off on the last one, but one lucky winner still figured it out. Thus, this episode brings two new words if you are ready to play their little game. Before they dig into Boston and wish London "farewell," they give their freshy fr...2024-05-011h 11
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Freshy Fresh Boston Marathon 2024 Recap EpisodeYou asked for it, and you are getting it! Des and Kara recorded this freshy fresh Boston Marathon recap at 10:15 pm on Marathon Monday after just enough beers. The most important detail, perhaps, is that they shut down the bar at the end of this one. They were literally kicked out of the Sam Adams Taproom in downtown Boston to end the show, the perfect mic drop after an epic weekend of racing for the two of them. You will hear the full back story on Kara’s successful mission to #destoryColt, including the complete shock to he...2024-04-1740 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraBehind the Scenes of the Boston Marathon in 2009, 2011, and 2018In this LIVE episode filmed at WBUR Cityspace in Boston, Des and Kara take you behind the scenes of the 2009, 2011, and 2018 Boston Marathons for an episode that will make you both laugh and cry. In 2009, Kara finished in an agonizing 3rd place in a podium battle that wasn't decided until Boylston, while Des watched from the stands. In 2011, Des finished in 2nd in a back and forth that had us all believing she could win until the closing meters of the race, while Kara ran her marathon PR for 5th place, just 6 months after having Colt. And...2024-04-131h 07
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Never Underestimate Women Episode"This race is too hard for women. They are simply not tough enough to do it, and I get to say that for as long as it takes until someone proves me wrong." - Lazarus Lake, Race Director for the Barkley Marathons. Enter Jasmin Paris. Sorry Lazarus. But first, Des and Kara kick things off with their usual banter talking about solving the world's problems on a run, and perhaps relatedly or unrelatedly, Des's final prep for Boston, including her typical taper routine. Is Des a barely-taper or extreme-taper type of athlete, and has she...2024-04-101h 04
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Space Between"The space between; The tears we cry; Is the laughter that keeps us coming back for more." - Dave Mathews Band The episode is a tribute to the spaces between and most certainly the laughter that comes with them... the space between the indoor season and outdoor championships, between the Olympic Marathon Trials and the Boston Marathon, between your connections at the airport, and between the finish line and that much-needed, post-race bathroom break (+ at least a few more spaces between). Kara gives us a life update and let's us know why things have been a...2024-03-261h 12
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe World Indoor Recap + Contracts Discussion Episode"Haters gonna hate... potaters gonna potate." - Kara Goucher This and other "wisdom" in this new episode. Des and Kara recap an exciting World Indoor meet in Glasgow where the US brought home a truckload of middle distance and distance medals including 4 in the 1500m alone. Kara was on the call and offers some behind-the-scenes insight, plus they give their thoughts on implications for the outdoor season. Then, they discuss results from the Tokyo Marathon including Kipchoge's disappointing 10th place. Should he be chosen for the Kenyan marathon team for Paris? What would Des and...2024-03-121h 10
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Grab Bag, aka the Freudian Slip(s) EpisodeCalling all track nerds to reach in and grab a topic of your choosing. From indoor racing to Olympic standards and field sizes to the new long jump rules, there is something in here for any track nerd (or aspiring track nerd) in your life. We think track is fun, but even if you don't, there is STILL plenty of fun to be had. Kara accidentally shares her high school crush in Freudian slip #1 of the episode (hint: think basketball not running), and Des shares her thoughts about who might really be in charge at USATF with F...2024-02-271h 06
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraOlympic Marathon Trials Redux, Sober VersionDes and Kara got the message. You like it when they are a little bit tipsy... ok, maybe a lot tipsy. In this episode, you will learn that they questioned whether or not to post the last one because of the drinks involved. (Editor's note: you're welcome.) You will also learn what happened at the bar after they finished recording (hint: D, d's, and DD's). Then in this redux on Orlando, you get their additional, sober takes on the races. And, don't worry... there are a few, semi-unhinged moments in this one too. They talk about Jessica...2024-02-131h 11
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Mister Episode (aka the Stress Eating Episode)Des and Kara have two very special guests join this episode to talk about what it's like to play the sidekick role for an Olympic Trials race. Mr. Des Linden (aka Ryan) and Mr. Kara Goucher (aka Adam) break it all down and talk about what it's like to support in training, what it's like on the sidelines, and then how to manage the aftermath in victory and defeat. There's lots of interesting intel in this one including which Mister is the stress-eater of the two, who is chill vs. a *little* more high-strung, why Des may...2024-01-301h 13
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Houston Recap ShowApollo 13 may have had a problem, but the Houston Marathon and Half Marathon DOES NOT. What a freaking amazing race with so many implications for the Olympic Marathon Trials! Des was on the call in the booth, and Kara was following along from home. In this episode, they recap it all, discussing the men's and women's races for both distances. This race had a little bit of everything with a smokin' time from a late entrant, a new American record in the half, the first L in history for Father Time, plus a number of O...2024-01-161h 08
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Trials are Hard S**t EpisodeNew year, new season... Des and Kara are back for more in 2024! This is a fun one with the perfect mix of behind-the-scenes intel and the usual off-the-rails banter for which these two are known. Since no one else is talking about it yet, Des and Kara start the year with an episode to get you hyped about the competition at the upcoming US Marathon Trials. Plus, you get answers to these pressing questions... Are objects in the camera really as large as they appear or is Des's face just tiny either way? What's Des's resolution...2024-01-021h 06Ali on the Run Show2023 in Review with Kara Goucher "If you have that heart of a lion, you will get back there. You just have to have patience." It was a big year for Kara Goucher! Her book, The Longest Race, debuted and became a New York Times best-seller. She and Des Linden launched their podcast, Nobody Asked Us with Des and Kara. She called dozens of exciting races as a distance analyst for NBC's track and field and marathon broadcasts. She continued navigating life on the run with runner's dystonia. And today, she's here to recap all of it with us...2023-12-281h 09
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraYear in Review (aka the S**t Show Episode)It's been an amazing first year for the Nobody Asked Us Podcast with Des and Kara... 27 episodes, nearly 1 million downloads, 2 new friends and 1 sassy intro song. Are Des and Kara close friends now because of the pod or in spite of it? I think we know the answer, but this final episode of 2023 will confirm it. In this episode, they give you a peak back at the highlights of 2023 and a tiny glimpse into what's in store for 2024. Topics include Colt's results at the National Junior Olympics in XC, a book tour recap, favorite races of 2023, Hassan...2023-12-191h 03
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraBehind the Scenes with Mary Kate Shea, Boston Elite Athlete CoordinatorA very special guest joins the podcast this week as Mary Kate Shea sits in with Des and Kara. Mary Kate (aka MK) is the Director of Professional Athletes and Technical Support for the Boston Athletic Association (aka the BAA) and personal friend of Des. Before giving details on the episode itself, it'll be important for you, if you haven't already, to find the viral video that Kara mentions at the start of the podcast. It may or may not be posted on Kara's social media and will show you the proper way to exit a party...2023-12-061h 08
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Dead Horse EpisodeNo horses were harmed in the making of this episode. This one starts off innocently enough with Des providing details of her recent trip to Japan, including the recovery tool she rediscovered on the journey that has surely been abandoned again by now. Kara gives an update on her challenges with a recent dystonia flare-up that caused a bad fall while running. In true Des and Kara fashion, that topic leads to a fun and funny discussion of the new Olympic sports coming for 2024 and 2028 (hello break dancing!) and Des's secret Winter Olympic aspirations. Then...2023-11-211h 13
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Freshy Fresh NYC Marathon Recap EpisodeJust a few hours after the conclusion of the elite races, Des and Kara jumped on the mics to recap all of the action at the TCS NYC Marathon on Sunday. To call this episode "pure fire" would be a gross understatement AND STILL perhaps the best possible teaser words for it. They spend the most time on the women's race, one that Kara calls "the best race of the year," breaking down the cat-and-mouse games that extended well into the race. This includes their perspectives on the strategies of Kellyn Taylor and Molly Huddle to take t...2023-11-071h 08
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraBehind the Scenes of Des's Masters Record in ChicagoWhat's better? Sex or two Nobody Asked Us episodes in 4 days?!? It's a trick question because the correct answer is listening to this new episode while munching on a Nerds rope. This episode starts by going a little off the rails but quickly gets back on track as Kara leads Des through a conversation about her record-setting weekend. There's also bonus coverage of Kara's 5K race on Saturday and her successful spectating duties on Sunday. You will hear about the controversial KitKat at the press conference, pancakes in a wine room, Rivers on his best b...2023-10-131h 13
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraLive from Chicago!Des and Kara kicked off marathon weekend in Chicago with a live episode from Fleet Feet Chicago. They talk about their marathon routines and strategies for pre-race prep, in-race execution, and of course, the post-race party. Come for the usual, inspirational tips on marathoning, stay for the random tangents about Ted Bundy, a murder on Valentine's day (and the connection to Des's house), running in handcuffs, and tattoos on your face. You never know where these episodes will lead... Des and Kara also wanted to send a special thank you to Fleet Feet Chicago and A...2023-10-1059 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraChicago Preview and Podcast SmorgasbordThis episode is the runner's equivalent of an all-you-can-eat buffet. There's a little bit of everything, just please go easy on the corn and tomatoes. Des and Kara start with a recap of the Diamond League Final at the Prefontaine Classic, covering the highlights with behind-the-scenes stories from Kara who was on the call with NBC. They share their favorite moments and try to put some of the mind-blowing results in context. Then, they step into a full Chicago Marathon preview starting with the inside scoop on Des's training, key workouts, and her goals for t...2023-09-261h 05
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraNot Your Average World Champs RecapThis is Des and Kara at their finest, like listening in on two best friends shooting the s**t about their favorite sport. Yes, the recent World Championships in Budapest is the backdrop for the discussion, but they weave in so much more than just event recaps. Plus, Kara dishes all the behind-the-scenes, broadcasting tea, including the back story behind the now-infamous pic of a shirtless Trey Hardee on Instagram. Who's mad about it? Absolutely no one. Topics include a race recap from Des on her 20K tune-up in New Haven, fangirling Courtney Dauwalter, pressure as an...2023-09-121h 14
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraBehind the Scenes of Drug TestingThis is fun one. Recorded a few weeks ago, Des and Kara start with a mini-preview of the World Championships in Budapest, which is even more interesting now that we know the results. Then, they turn to an in-depth discussion of what it's like to be in the drug testing pool as an elite athlete. From mixing it up on the ones and twos (and we aren't talking about turntables) to the nuts and bolts of the whereabouts filing system, you get all of the gory details, including their favorite war stories. Des and Kara are huge a...2023-08-291h 04
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe Controversy EpisodeYou can't have a Nobody Asked Us episode without a pet update. In the intro, Des gives in an update on her puppy Rivers, and Kara details the history that led to a Bearded Dragon joining the Goucher household. Hi Margot! Then, Des and Kara wade into the deep end to discuss recent track and field controversies involving New Gen Track & Field, potential hot weather at the US Marathon Trials in Orlando, and race bibs. Kara finds herself speaking for "The Man" (aka USATF) as Des tries to bring balance to the discussion about heat at the...2023-08-151h 01
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraPetty Criticism and PetsNo... we aren't talking about petty criticism about pets, but rather pets as the perfect antidote for petty criticism while in the public eye. Des and Kara start by commiserating over what it's like to face public criticism and how it's evolved both pre and post social media. They recap their first memories of being affected by such criticism and talk about their various coping strategies through the years, including the potential satisfaction of watching their follower counts drop after an especially controversial post. Who could possible get mad about a bird with a backpack anyway?!? Then...2023-08-0157 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraBehind the Scenes at the World ChampionshipsThis episode begins with Des and Kara commiserating over their hatred for midwestern, summer horse flies, and in true Des fashion, she finds a way to gain inspiration from them. Would you expect anything less from one of the most gritty and tenacious athletes of our time?!? Then, your hosts meander through a fun episode discussing the World Championships marathon and how it's different from the Olympics or a World Marathon Major. From field sizes to racing dynamics and the water station setup... they take you behind the scenes. Plus, this includes a discussion of the two o...2023-07-1858 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraUS Track Championships, A Preview ShowSwifties and track nerds rise up! Fans of the Notorious B.I.G too. Oh, and lovers of puppies and those with July birthdays... this episode is for all of you! Kara recaps her experience at the Taylor Swift concert in Minneapolis. Des talks about her challenges reading the big "E" without glasses and trying to decide on the perfect puppy name. Then, they give you an event by event breakdown of the US Track Championships coming up at the end of this week (July 6th to July 9th). The intrepid among you will listen t...2023-07-0459 min
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe People Behind the AthleteIn this episode, Des and Kara pay tribute to their support teams. As an athlete, you can't do it alone. It takes a village... you need agents, sponsors, coaches, family, medical providers, pacers, teammates, and, for Des and Kara, their husbands too. In this one, we learn the helpful and a little bit of the not so helpful from each member of the teams that helped make them champions. Plus, we learn that Des and Kara might secretly be pursuing careers to support the next generation in different ways. Which is more likely to be a coach? A...2023-06-201h 04
The Running for Real PodcastKara Goucher: There's More Life to LiveA lot has happened since Kara Goucher was last on the podcast, three years ago. In 2022, the World Championships silver medalist and two-time Olympian was diagnosed with repetitive exercise dystonia, a rare neurological disorder. To prevent her symptoms from becoming worse, she’s had to drastically reduce her running, putting an end to her competitive career. This year, however, brought much better news: her memoir, "The Longest Race: Inside the Secret World of Abuse, Doping, and Deception on Nike’s Elite Running Team", debuted at number 7 on The New York Times’ bestseller list. She’s also launched a podcast...2023-06-161h 02
Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraThe State of the SportListeners keep saying that the title is wrong, that everyone asked Des and Kara to start a podcast. That may or may not be true, but one thing that is definitely true: USATF and World Athletics didn't ask for this episode. They won't be listening even if they should. In it, Des and Kara talk about the state of the sport and how to draw in more fans. From small crowds and missing stars at the recent LA Grand Prix to confusing Olympic Qualifying standards and the highly inflated USATF CEO salary, they talk in depth about t...2023-06-0657 minNobody Asked Us with Des & KaraBoston, London and a Day in the LifeThis episode has a little something for everyone. Des and Kara start by swapping medical war stories including the backstory behind Des's recent hand injury. Spoiler alert: She nearly lost her thumb in a boating accident but is going to be ok! Then, they jump into recaps of Boston and London where you get their takes on Emma Bates, Hellen Obiri, Sifan Hassan, Conner Mantz, Scott Fauble, Eliud Kipchoge, and so much more. Plus, you hear how Des felt about her race in Boston. At the end, Des and Kara give you a little insight...2023-05-091h 00Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraDes and Kara LIVE from BostonIn this episode, you hear the audio from Des and Kara's live episode recorded in Boston at the Brooks Hyperion House. In this conversation, Des and Kara announce the new presenting sponsor for the podcast - TCS Global - and then dig into stories from their book tours and from their long histories with the Boston Marathon. Fun anecdotes include Des telling us about the moment she knew she had arrived as an athlete in Boston. Spoiler alert: there was a security guard, a table, and dancing involved. Plus, Kara shares a poignant story from her first...2023-04-2537 minNobody Asked Us with Des & KaraBehind the Scenes at the OlympicsIn this episode, Des and Kara take you behind the scenes at the Olympics. Both Des and Kara have raced there twice. They share what it was like achieving their lifelong dreams and then living it out under all of the pressure of the Games. Spoiler alert: it's not all rainbows and unicorns. You will hear about the "Big O" camp, pictures with the President, the dining hall at the Olympic village, the infamous condom bowl, swapping podium gear with a medalist, the post-Games letdown, and so much more. Go back to Beijing, London, and Rio with...2023-04-1158 minNobody Asked Us with Des & KaraKara Interviews Des on Her Book: Choosing to RunIn this episode, Kara interviews Des on her new book Choosing to Run: A Memoir. The book tells the story of Des's 2018 Boston Marathon victory, woven together beautifully with the story of her life. In it, she reveals harrowing details about the 9 months prior to the race and how she didn't even know if she would make the start line. You think you know the rest of the story, but you don't. Buy the book, listen to this conversation, and be inspired!2023-03-2859 min
Fix Me a Drink with Noah Rothbaum & David Wondrich PodcastDrinking with Boston Marathon Champ Des Linden - Fix Me a DrinkIt’s no secret that Des Linden is one of the world’s best long-distance runners. In 2018, she became the first American woman to win the Boston Marathon in more than 30 years. Her gritty performance that day through driving rain and high winds was one for the history books. She followed that up with two Olympic marathon appearances, and then smashed the world record for the 50K distance in 2021. But what might be less well known about Linden is that she’s a big fan of bourbon.
On this episode of Fix Me a Drink, hosts David Wondrich and Noah Rothba...2023-03-2729 minNobody Asked Us with Des & KaraDes Interviews Kara on The Longest RaceIn this episode, Des interviews Kara on her new book The Longest Race: Inside the Secret World of Abuse, Doping, and Deception on Nike's Elite Running Team. You will have to listen and read to learn more, but Des and Kara talk about several elements of Kara's story including never-before-revealed details about her time with the Nike Oregon Project. 2023-03-1457 minNobody Asked Us with Des & KaraFast Times and Shoe TechIn this episode, Des and Kara give their reactions on the indoor track season including the NB Indoor Grand Prix, Millrose Games, and the US Championships in Albuquerque. They talk about the implications of recent mind-blowing times on the future of the sport, thanks in large part to super-shoe technology coming to the track. Is it good for the sport and will there be a return to an emphasis on pure racing in the near future? Then, they go back in time to talk about the history of super shoes on the roads and their personal experiences...2023-02-281h 01Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraTwo Introverts and a PodcastWhat do Celestial Seasonings, fried eggs, and a bird with a backpack all have in common? Find out in this episode where you get to learn about how two introverts - Des and Kara - navigate the world of running celebrity, social media, broadcasting and now podcasting. And if you're an extrovert, they give some tips on how to keep your introverted friends happy and energized. Plus, learn more about the "why" behind each of their upcoming books. 2023-02-141h 00
Some Work, All Play140. Kara Goucher Interview! Olympian and Life Boss on Vulnerability and Strength!We had such a life-affirming interview with one of our all-time heroes, Kara Goucher! Kara became famous as one of the best runners in the world, winning 3 national championships in college, a silver medal in the 10k at the World Championships, and making 2 Olympic teams. But the running accolades are just the start of her journey. Kara embraces the whole community, persevering through her own adversity to uplift and inspire others. She co-hosts the "Nobody Asked Us" podcast with Des Linden, which debuted as the most successful running podcast on the planet. She does live announcing for distance running...2023-02-071h 08Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraA Chat with Lauren FleshmanIn this episode, Des and Kara welcome their first guest - Lauren Fleshman. Lauren is a 4x individual NCAA champion and 2x US national champion. She placed 7th at the World Championships in the 5000m and is now a NY Times best-selling author. Her book - Good for a Girl: A Woman Running in a Man's World - is defining and redefining how we think about elevating women in sport. Des, Kara, and Lauren first give you a behind-the-scenes look into the book-writing process as Des and Kara also have books coming out soon. Then, they dive...2023-01-3157 min
Ali on the Run ShowDes Linden, Author, Podcast Host, Boston Marathon Champion, "Emily in Paris" Super Fan "I get rowdy with vodka." Des Linden is busy! She just launched a new podcast with Kara Goucher. Her memoir, Choosing to Run, comes out April 4. And she's gearing up for this year's Boston Marathon. But she's never too busy to indulge in a little plaisir coupable. (That's "guilty pleasure," in French.) In this conversation, Des offers updates on all of the above: what we can expect from the podcast, why she prefers being called Des over Desi, how she's feeling about her book release, and how Boston training is going. And then...2023-01-2658 minNobody Asked Us with Des & KaraBehind the Scenes in the Broadcast BoothIn this episode, Des and Kara take you behind the scenes in the broadcast booth including how they both got into it and the good, the bad, and the really-freaking-hard about making it behind the mic.2023-01-121h 02Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraOrlando vs Chattanooga and More Hot TakesDes and Kara share their hot (or perhaps medium?) takes on current events in the world of marathoning. Hear their opinions on the location of the Olympic Marathon Trials, the US Marathon Champs at CIM, Eliud Kipchoge doing Boston and so much more. Plus, find out if Des plans to run the 2024 Trials to try to make it to Paris. Stick around for the "tips" on goal setting and resolutions at the end.2023-01-121h 00Nobody Asked Us with Des & KaraSo It Begins...Once competitors and fellow Olympic teammates, now friends and podcast partners, Kara and Des get to know each other in this first episode. We promise you will learn something new about them both!2023-01-121h 08
The Strength Running Podcast251. How 2x Olympian Kara Goucher Handles Expectations, Pressure, and Pre-Race AnxietyThis week’s guest on the podcast needs no introduction. As one of America’s most dominant female runners, Kara Goucher earned a spot on the Olympic team in the 10,000 meters in 2008, and the marathon in 2012. She was second in the 10,000 meters at the World Championships in Osaka and placed third in both the Boston and New York City marathons. Kara has retired from competitive running but remains an active presence as an athlete advisor for Oiselle and Altra. She is a sports analyst and broadcaster for NBC Sports, and had an opportunity to be on the other side of th...2022-06-0948 minAli on the Run ShowCatching Up with Kara Goucher "It’s been hard to swallow that there is no miracle. It’s going to take time." It's been nearly one year since Kara Goucher came on the Ali on the Run Show to talk about what it was like being a part of the NBC Sports broadcast team during the Tokyo Olympics. Today, Kara returns with all kinds of updates. In this fun, wide-ranging conversation, Kara talks about how she has gotten more comfortable in her role as an NBC Sports Distance Analyst, and shares her broadcast plans for the summer. She talk...2022-06-091h 21
Clean Sport CollectiveEpisode #97: Catching up with Des Linden"There's value in showing up when you're not at your best and seeing what you can do. Who are you when it's rough?" - Des Linden. You will have to listen until the very end to hear this very introspective life advice from Des. She showed up in Boston two weeks ago when not at her best. She got it done anyway and is now prepping for the NYC Marathon in just under two weeks. In this episode, we catch up with Des on everything happening in her life from February 2020 onward including her 4th...2021-10-2552 min
Clean Sport CollectiveEpisode #83: Kevin Hanson, Co-founder and Coach of Hansons-Brooks Distance ProjectThere are few in the sport that have so selflessly given back to it as Kevin Hanson, and he's been doing it for the last 40+ years. He has coached at every level from high school to community college to the pros. He and his brother started and continue to run the Hanson's Running Shops near Detroit, Michigan, and of course, they are also the co-founders and coaches of the Hansons-Brooks Distance Project, the program that produced Olympian and Boston Marathon Champion Desiree Linden. In this episode, Chris and Shanna talk to Kevin about his journey from growing...2021-03-011h 13
Clean Sport CollectiveEpisode #37: Sara Hall, 2:22 Marathoner (#6 All-Time)Warning: if you listen to this episode, you might be inspired to run all-out hill repeats with an uncontrollable smile on your face. Sara's love and passion for running is THAT contagious! Sara is a 2:22 marathoner (#6 all-time), but like many of our interviewees in this series, her marathon time only tells a small part of the story. She is a multi-dimensional athlete and person, and Shanna and Kara explore it all in this discussion. Sara talks about her running career including how it began exploring the woods as a kid alone in her home state of California...2020-02-2647 min
Clean Sport CollectiveEpisode #31: Shadrack Biwott, Boston Marathon Podium FinisherShadrack Biwott is one of only three athletes in the men's field for the US Olympic Marathon Trials who has stood on a World Major Marathon podium. He finished 3rd at the Boston Marathon in 2018 in the extreme cold, windy, and rainy conditions that also accompanied Des Linden's victory on the same day. That finish along with his 4th place finish at Boston in 2017 and 5th place at NYC in 2016 give you only the surface reasons needed to suggest he could make an Olympic team on February 29th. In this interview, Kara and Chris dig into so m...2020-02-0556 min
Clean Sport CollectiveEpisode #27: Desiree Linden, Boston Marathon ChampionWe continue a new year of Clean Sport podcasts with another amazing guest as 2018 Boston Marathon Champion Desiree Linden joins Kara and Chris on the show. You know Des as a two-time Olympian in the marathon with 3 podium finishes in World Marathon Majors including two second place finishes at Boston and Chicago, and then of course her epic win in Boston in 2018 in nor'easter conditions. But, do you know how she started in sport? Did you know that her favorite event in high school and college was the 1500 and that she begged her coach not to make...2020-01-121h 05
Ali on the Run ShowDesiree Linden“We fail all the time, and we learn from it and we get better. I think that’s amazing. You fail your way to success. That’s how it happens, and I’m super comfortable with that. I have no problem pointing out a bunch of failures in my career. But I don’t define myself or my career as a failure.” —Des Linden Desiree Linden is a professional distance runner who has represented the United States at the London and Rio Olympics. She runs for the Hansons-Brooks Distance Project in Michigan, and is a strong, consistent 2:22 marathoner. In...2018-03-1546 min