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Living with dying
Episode 63: Lee Wakeham
Lee Wakeham has a horrendous story to tell - of being abandoned by his mother aged two, of abuse during his first foster care placement, leading to years of offending and time in prison. So how did he turn his life around after such huge losses? He now runs successful pasty-making business - HMPasties - that employs ex-offenders and has been taken under the Co-op's wing via its incubator scheme - the Apiary.
2025-07-21
33 min
Living with dying
Episode 62: Louise Dilllon
Louise Dillon's son died from an aggressive form of leukemia just after his 14th birthday. Her own experience of how difficult it was returning to work, prompted her to offer training to businesses on how best to support grieving employees and how to give the bereaved a voice in how they'd like things to go.
2025-07-07
26 min
Living with dying
Episode 61: Peter Cooper
Peter Cooper got in touch after listening to episode 27 featuring his mother talking about the death of his father. He mentioned that he felt there had been unacknowledged grief underlying his childhood and how it has left him unsure if he 'does' grief well. We explore that together here.
2025-06-23
24 min
Living with dying
Episode 60: Pippa and Grace
Pippa and Grace were only 16 when their fathers died. They didn't know each other at the time but met through the counselling offered by Thames Hospice and have since become firm friends. Together they're passionate about raising money for the hospice so that others can receive the same care and help they value so highly.
2025-06-09
28 min
Living with dying
Episode 59: Lord Kinnock
Baroness Glenys Kinnock and Lord Neil Kinnock were together for 60 years - the most high profile political couple of their generation. "It is like losing a limb" says Neil. "Glenys suffered and died of Alzheimer's in 2023 and the only real relief of Alzheimer's is that people slip away. They almost give you a rehearsal in loss. It does mean that you suffer a real death and years before that a sort of death."
2025-05-19
33 min
Living with dying
Episode 58: Toby Porter
NOT talking about death and dying is 'a profound act of societal self-harm' says Toby Porter CEO of HospiceUK. We mark Dying Matters Awareness Week by talking to him about why we don't talk about it more, about hospice care, assisted dying and the recent loss of his mother.
2025-05-05
46 min
Living with dying
Episode 57: Sally Lynch
For Easter week, we're talking to the Reverend Sally Lynch about the Christian Church's approach to death and dying and the significance of Easter in the Church of England.
2025-04-14
32 min
Living with dying
Episode 56: Lucy Potter
This is to mark Sudden Death Awareness Month in March. Lucy Potter's 2 year old son Gibson didn't wake up one morning. She bravely, and eloquently describes here the horror of trying to administer CPR, of accompanying him in an ambulance, and of willing him to live while watching in stunned disbelief as medics tried and failed to revive him.
2025-03-28
44 min
Living with dying
Episode 55: Ginny Daly
Ginny Daly had to experience the heart-breaking ordeal of giving birth to her baby boy knowing that he'd died in the womb. She talks openly of that nightmare, and how, years later, her mother's death exposed her to a completely different kind of grief.
2025-03-16
48 min
Living with dying
Episode 54: Fiona Duffy
Suicide is often described as cruel. This is not what our latest guest Fiona Duffy thinks. She describes here how her experience of suffering losses, including her brother to suicide, inspired her to go into the Funeral Care Business with the Co-op.
2025-03-03
31 min
Living with dying
Episode 53: Mark Shepherd
Mark Shepherd performs an extraordinary service for the parents of babies who are still born, or who die soon after birth. He visits them soon after their loss to take professional photos of their babies for a charity called RememberMyBaby. He tells us here how he got into this amazing work.
2025-02-17
29 min
Living with dying
Episode 52: Tanya Ednan-Laperouse OBE
Natasha's Foundation is launching a new campaign to provide education about allergies to children in primary schools around the country. The foundation is named in memory of Natasha Ednan-Laperouse who suffered a fatal anaphylactic reaction in 2016 on her way to a holiday in France with her father and best friend. She'd unwittingly eaten a baguette containing sesame seed bought at the airport. After the inquest, her parents Tanya and Nadim campaigned for a new law, Natasha's law, so that all prepackaged food must list all ingredients with the 14 allergens in bold. They went on to launch the Foundation which funds rese...
2025-02-03
35 min
Living with dying
Episode 51: Gini Hackett
Gini Hackett, founder of @BucketListWishesUK, believes that encouraging her Mother to put together a bucket list helped prolong her life from the projected 3 months to 11, and describes some of the fun things they did together during that time
2025-01-20
27 min
Living with dying
Episode 50: Rebecca Peach
What to do when someone dies? And how to find a funeral director who's going to respect our wishes and look after our loved one? Most of us don't do any research before, so we flounder around and pick the nearest, or the one we've heard of. Rebecca Peach founded The Farewell Guide to address this.
2025-01-06
26 min
Living with dying
Episode 49: Rachel Tegg Christmas
As Christmas approaches, this can be such a difficult time for anyone who's bereaved. Rachel Tegg of Child Bereavement Uk shares her experience of helping families with approaching any festive season and passes on advice she's gleaned.
2024-12-16
33 min
Living with dying
Episode 48: Natasha Bradshaw
We mark National Grief Awareness Week with a look behind the scenes at Mortlake Crematorium and find out exactly what happens to our loved ones' bodies once we say goodbye.
2024-12-02
41 min
Living with dying
Episode 47: Catherine Beer - Talking to the Dying
How to talk to the dying? What to say? How to broach the subject...? Advice here from Pastoral Care worker Catherine Beer.
2024-11-18
29 min
Living with dying
Episode 46: Wendy Craig
Actress Wendy Craig shares what happened when her husband of 40 years - Jack Bentley - died of cancer, and how she picked up the pieces and made a good life for herself over the 30 following years.
2024-11-03
25 min
Living with dying
Episode 45: Carolyn Mayling
This week's guest - Carolyn Mayling - has an amazing story of life and death. The death of her 11 year old daughter, followed some years later by the birth of a new baby when she was 54. She's managed to rebuild a really fulfilling and worthwhile life after loss - as she describes in this conversation.
2024-10-21
36 min
Living with dying
Episode 44: Di Stubbs
During Baby Loss Awareness week we ask what on earth to say to people who've lost a pregnancy or a baby - at whatever stage. Di Stubbs of Child Bereavement UK says don't say 'Just call me - anytime'. Instead phone with questions like 'I'm in Sainsbury's can I pick anything up for you' or 'I've only got half a load of washing can I do yours', or 'I'm taking my kids to the park can I take yours? Something they can say an easy yes to without having to think'
2024-10-06
37 min
Living with dying
Episode 43: Shobha Modi
Things not to say to the bereaved: 'Think of all the memories', 'You were lucky to have him', 'She wouldn't want you to cry' - Shobha Modi shares her advice and talks about the Hindu approach to death and dying
2024-09-30
29 min
Living with dying
Episode 42: Veronica Currie
People widowed young often struggle to find anyone who remotely understands which leaves them isolated and alone - which is where WAY (Widowed and Young) steps in. Veronica Currie explains.
2024-09-23
32 min
Living with dying
Episode 41: Sophie Hamilton
Have you got a will? 66 percent of people in the UK don't according to Solicitor Sophie Hamilton who thinks it's sad that people often leave it too late
2024-09-16
35 min
Living with dying
Episode 40: Khalad Hussein
Khalad Hussein explains the Muslim approach to death and dying and how Muslims believe that their 'time is written'
2024-09-09
25 min
Living with dying
Episode 39: Nula Suchet
Nula Suchet's life changed dramatically when her husband James developed Dementia at the young age of 57. She describes in detail his decline and death, but also tells an uplifting story of rebuilding her life afterwards and marrying broadcaster John Suchet
2024-09-02
38 min
Living with dying
Episode 38: Rachel Tegg
Rachel Tegg of Child Bereavement UK describes how play can help bereaved children express themselves - and how they offer help to bereaved parents and families as well.
2024-08-26
41 min
Living with dying
Episode 37: Rosie Taylor Horler
Rosie Taylor Horler's father died when she was 21, leading to feelings that her Dad never really knew her as an adult, and that there were a whole load of conversations she never got to have.
2024-08-19
35 min
Living with dying
Episode 36: Maaike Gomm-Zaagsma
How on earth do you cope with 10 miscarriages - including two sets of twins? Maaike Gomm-Zaagsma shares her heart-breaking story and how it led on to her work in Funeralcare.
2024-08-11
26 min
Living with dying
Episode 35: Kevin Toolis
Kevin Toolis's book My Father's Wake describes in minute detail the Irish way of death and dying. 'The dead body is right there and you can look at it, touch it, kiss it, whatever you wish.'
2024-08-04
28 min
Living with dying
Episode 34: Fernanda Reyes
Fernanda Reyes was inspired to start an online Farewell Planner called Evermore after her father died and she wished she'd been more prepared. She's since trained as a Death Doula and describes that work here too:
2024-07-28
30 min
Living with dying
Episode 33: Robert Harrap
The perspective of the 'rhythm of life' is important in the Buddhist approach to death and dying - as explained by Robert Harrap - Chair of SGI Europe
2024-07-21
33 min
Living with dying
Episode 32: Catherine McLaughlin
Online dating - good or bad idea when you're widowed later in life? CEO of Thames Hospice Catherine McLaughlin shares how hard it felt picking up the pieces after her husband died
2024-07-14
27 min
Living with dying
Episode 31: Sarah Parfitt
'It's not those wow moments, it's the ordinary moments you miss'' - Sarah Parfitt on life without her 91 year old father
2024-07-08
29 min
Living with dying
Episode 30: Katharine Horler
Katharine Horler is a great example of someone who's rebuilt her life. Her 54 year old husband Chris died 7 years ago but she met someone new and is getting married again
2024-07-01
32 min
Living with dying
Episode 29: Chris Buchanan
How to explain death and dying to people who have no language? Speech therapist Chris Buchanan, who works with non-verbal children and young people gives us her advice:
2024-06-24
25 min
Living with dying
Episode 28: Jess Seymour
When Jess Seymour's 35 year old husband Matt went into a hospice, they talked and talked. 'Those conversations are really difficult, you feel nauseous and have a knot in your neck and physical pain in your chest, but I'm so glad we had them'
2024-06-17
43 min
Living with dying
Episode 27: Hazel Cooper
88 year old Hazel Cooper was married to Jock for 63 years. She reminisces about the early days, married life and his death from cancer a year ago.
2024-06-10
26 min
Living with dying
Episode 26: Cressida Harris
Funeral Director Cressida Harris joins us this week to talk about what to do when someone dies, how to talk to the bereaved and how you can have anything from 'dance music to drum and base and dove release' at your funeral if you like.
2024-06-03
29 min
Living with dying
Episode 25: Dr Nikki Paul
Dr Nikki Paul's husband was killed in a car crash on his way to work, leaving her with 3 very young children. She now uses her experience and expertise to help other bereaved young mothers
2024-05-27
33 min
Living with dying
Episode 24: Karnail Pannu
This week Karnail Pannu talks about the Sikh way of death - the mourning, the funeral and the grief he experienced on the death from a sudden heart attack of his son Gurdeep aged 52
2024-05-20
25 min
Living with dying
Episode 23: Assisted Dying
As Dying Matters Awareness week draws to a close, we're focussing on the Assisted Dying Debate. We hear the opinions of two guests - one all in favour, the other not. Thanks to Rabbi Jonathan Romain and Ros Doherty for their willingness to share.
2024-05-12
44 min
Living with dying
Episode 22: Joan Bakewell
Dame Joan Bakewell feels strongly that we should all talk more about death and dying. In a timely interview for Dying Matters Awareness Week, she shares those strong views here:
2024-04-24
15 min
Living with dying
Episode 21: Victoria Kibble
Have you ever thought of having a submarine for your coffin? All in a day's work for funeral arranger Victoria Kibble when asked by the family of a submariner:
2024-04-22
35 min
Living with dying
Episode 20: Catherine McClaughlin
Catherine McLaughlin, CEO of the Thames Hospice, tells how she was drawn to this work after watching her husband die
2024-04-15
34 min
Living with dying
Episode 19: Shrewsbury Strollers
What is it about walking and talking that feels so therapeutic? I discuss this here with Sharon Jones and Shirley Gennoe of the Severn Hospice where the Shrewsbury Strollers are based
2024-04-08
31 min
Living with dying
Episode 18: Catherine Beer Senses
How do our senses play their part in grief? Counsellor Catherine Beer and I discuss how sight, sound, taste, smell and touch can trigger good and bad feelings
2024-04-02
26 min
Living with dying
Episode 17: Sid Cole
How do you go on holiday after the loss of your long term partner and travelling companion? 84 year old widower Sid Cole describes how he plucked up the courage and found a new lease of life
2024-03-24
21 min
Living with dying
Episode 16: Ros Doherty
Ros Doherty's husband died suddenly 7 years ago. After the initial shock, she's managed to rebuild a rich life for herself and has a great deal of wisdom to share on the subject.
2024-03-18
35 min
Living with dying
Episode 15: Rabbi Romain
Rabbi Jonathan Romain is our guest this week. He talks candidly about the loss of his 34 year old son in a tragic honeymoon accident, how his faith didn't help and how he's got on with life since.
2024-03-11
28 min
Living with dying
Episode 14: Emily Cummin
Today's guest is Emily Cummin, founder of a fantastic resource for anyone who's grieving. It's called Untangle Grief and is an app and a website that helps its many members through the twists and turns of bereavement, from the feelings to the practicalities that can flummox us all. Emily shares with us some of the wisdom she's gleaned from the Untange Grief community https://untanglegrief.com/
2024-03-04
35 min
Living with dying
Episode 13: Baroness Meyer
This week's guest, the Baroness Meyer has suffered more losses than most. Her two sons were abducted by their father when very small and she fought for years, unsuccessfully, for their return. And more recently, she's lost her husband of 25 years, Sir Christopher Meyer, the UK's one time Ambassador to Washington. She opens up about how she's handled grief and loss here.
2024-02-25
39 min
Living with dying
Episode 12: Kathryn Gilbert
What happens when we die? What is it like to die? Today we tackle this last taboo and try to de-mystify what it is like when someone dies. We're guided by Kathryn Gilbert, Nurse Consultant at Thames Hospice.
2024-02-18
35 min
Living with dying
Episode 11: the language of death and dying
Why do we find it so hard to use the correct language around death and dying? Instead, hedging it about with all kinds of euphemisms? I talk to Catherine Beer, Pastoral Care Worker at the Thames Hospice to get her thoughts.
2024-02-11
43 min
Living with dying
Episode 10: Sam Hart
Podcaster Sam Hart shares with Dilys his top ten tips for getting through the day when feelings of being down and lonely threaten to overwhelm us
2024-02-04
44 min
Living with dying
Episode 9: Sandra Jeffs
Every parent's worst nightmare is the death of a child. Listen to Sandra Jeffs talk movingly - and bravely - about the loss of her son Michael
2024-01-28
34 min
Living with dying
Episode 8: Michael Kahn
An unusual story today as I talk to an old friend Michael Kahn who lost his sister after a 10 year estrangement. He opens up frankly about his reaction to her death - and it may surprise you.
2024-01-21
27 min
Living with dying
Episode 7: Tom Page
I talk today with Tom Page who lost his father in 2019 and took up the offer of counselling from the Thames Hospice. He shares how it helped him through his bereavement.
2024-01-14
34 min
Living with dying
Episode 6: Poppy Mardell
Poppy Mardall - today's guest - is a great advocate of talking more about death and dying. She decided that funerals need a fresh approach and founded a business - called Poppy's - on that basis. She tells us today what she thinks is wrong with many funerals and how we can improve on them
2024-01-07
35 min
Living with dying
Episode 5: Mark Tinkler
Today's episode will resonate with many of us, as Mark Tinkler talks about losing both his mother and father during the terrible time of Covid
2024-01-01
26 min
Living with dying
Episode 4: Catherine Beer
For this Christmas week, we're talking to Catherine Beer of Thames Hospice about the range of feelings that can be stirred up by all the festivity around us, and how best to navigate the various anniversaries thrown up during grief.
2023-12-18
31 min
Living with dying
Episode 3: Andrew Peters
In this episode, Dilys talks to Andrew Peters who reflects on one layer of grief on top of another..... the sudden loss of his father 10 years ago, followed by the sudden loss of his brother only last year
2023-12-12
45 min
Living with dying
Episode 2: Anne Lady Dodd
Sir Ken Dodd's widow - Lady Dodd - talks us through the story of her long life with the comedian and how she picked up the pieces after his death in 2018. An exhibition called Happiness, which celebrates Sir Ken's life as a comedian, entertainer, and singer is on in the Museum of Liverpool until 3rd March.
2023-11-06
30 min
Living with dying
Episode 1: Dilys Morgan
I'm Dilys Morgan and I met my late husband Michael Barratt when I joined the early evening BBC TV Nationwide programme. In this, the first episode of Living with dying, I tell my own story of the recent death of my husband of 47 years and some of the unexpected feelings I encountered. Guiding me through is Counsellor Simon Smith of the Thames Hospice
2023-11-06
39 min