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Still Unbelievable!Episode 128 - Not so Shiny Not so Happy People - with Clint HeacockIn this episode of Still Unbelievable, Matthew welcoms back friend of the podcast, Clint Heacock to talk about Clint's book, Not so Shiny not so Happy People and Apostate and the process of writing and publishing.
See the show notes for links to the books and to Clint's podcast, dismantling doctrine.
1) buy Not So Shiny Not So Happy People
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2) Buy Apostate
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPNBSCBG
3) buy Still Unbelievable!
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What Are You Made Of?Exploring Religious Trauma and the Path to Interspirituality with Dr. Clint HeacockMike "C-Roc" dives into an engaging conversation with Dr. Clint Heacock, an ex-evangelical pastor, and former Bible college teacher turned author and podcast host. Dr. Heacock shares his transformative journey of deconstructing his faith after more than two decades in ministry, navigating religious trauma, and uncovering his authentic self.
The discussion delves into his new book, Not So Shiny, Not So Happy People: How Bill Gothard, Church, and Family Taught Me Christianity Doesn't Work, where he examines the impact of fundamentalist theology on his life. Dr. Heacock also reflects on the dynamics of belief...2024-12-0947 min
Speaking of CultsSpeaking of Cults...Not So Shiny or Happy People with Dr. Clint HeacockThis week I welcome author and former Evangelical pastor Dr. Clint Heacock to share his new work, Not So Shiny Not So Happy People about his upbringing and early adult life in the Evangelical world where physical and spiritual abuse were not only part of the picture but were mandated activities. Clint answers a lot of my questions about this and his escape from it and how we can discuss it now. Enjoy!
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The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastTim Sledge Interviews Me About My New Book "Not So Shiny Not So Happy People!"For the first time ever, my show has been hijacked!
My very good friend Tim Sledge, who is the editor and publisher of my new book, Not So Shiny Not So Happy People: How Bill Gothard, Church, and Family Taught Me Christianity Doesn't Work interviewed me recently about my book.
Aside from me, there is nobody else on Earth who knows more about my book, as we have been working closely on it for about a year now. Tim is not only intimately connected with the book, as a former evangelical pastor and ex-Christian himself, T...2024-09-1850 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastTim Sledge Interviews Me About My New Book "Not So Shiny Not So Happy People!"For the first time ever, my show has been hijacked! My very good friend Tim Sledge, who is the editor and publisher of my new book, Not So Shiny Not So Happy People: How Bill Gothard, Church, and Family Taught Me Christianity Doesn't Work interviewed me recently about my book. Aside from me, there is nobody else on Earth who knows more about my book, as we have been working closely on it for about a year now. Tim is not only intimately connected with the book, as a former evangelical pastor and ex-Christian himself, T...2024-09-1850 min
Heretical HippiesEp. 11 Dismantling Doctrine with Clint Heacock (Part 2)This is a collaborative episode with Dismantling Doctrine (formerly MindShift). Listen to the first part here:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mindshift-podcast/id1199559501
Dr. Clint Heacock is an ex-evangelical pastor and Bible college teacher of over 20 years and the host of the formerly MindShift podcast, now Dismantling Doctrine.
In this conversation, Dr. Clint Haycock discusses his journey from being raised in a fundamentalist Christian church to his deconstruction and exploration of different beliefs.
Join us on a Zoom Meeting on May 26 at 2pm Central Time.
Join our...2024-05-0746 min
IndoctriNationCrossover Episode pt. 1: An Interview w/Dr. Clint Heacock of The Mindshift PodcastDr. Clint Heacock is an ex-evangelical pastor and Bible college teacher of over 20 years and the host of the MindShift podcast. Clint grew up in the Church of Christ with parents who followed the Bill Gothard method of child-rearing. After deconstructing his former Christian faith and leaving it behind more than a decade ago, he’s used his podcast platform to educate and help those who have left religion to rebuild their lives. Recently Clint has been dedicated to speaking out about the dangers posed by the Christian Right, dominion theology, and Christian nationalism.
Today’s episode is actually a two...2024-01-2447 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastTerrified of Picking the Wrong God (with Joshua Stewart)As a recent guest on Joshua's excellent podcast, "The Mediocre Observer," I was happy to return the favor and have Joshua on the show. I hope you enjoy this, the final episode of MindShift Podcast for 2023!
In this wide-ranging discussion, Joshua and I discuss, among other things, why he was terrified to pick the wrong God in his quest for spirituality and enlightenment. So why didn't it work for him? Why did his quest fail, with the result that he's now an atheist speaking out against the dangers of religion and the Christian Right in American politics?2023-12-201h 06
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastWearing a Stained-Glass Mask: Deconstruction, Explained (with David Hayward)
I've finally managed to catch up with one of my favorite Canadians, David Hayward "The Naked Pastor."
As an ex-pastor and ex-evangelical like me, author and cartoonist David is best known for his irreverent but incredibly poignant cartoons depicting a huge array of theological and churchly issues. They cause people to think, to question, to ponder questions of their faith and church experiences, as well as potentially leading to deconstructing their faith or belief system.
As always, David and I have a wide-ranging conversation about a number of topics, issues, and questions. I hope you enjoy this chat as much as...2023-12-0652 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastGetting Jefferson Right: Debunking the Historical Revisionism of Christian Nationalism (with Dr Warren Throckmorton)
his week's episode features a great conversation with a returning guest, historian Dr Warren Throckmorton. From our previous conversation a few years ago, he's had a longstanding issue with the Christian nationalist "historian" David Barton of WallBuilders.
Back in 2012, Barton's book The Jefferson Lies was pulled from the bookshelves by its Christian publisher, amid claims by Throckmorton and other evangelical historians that his take on Jefferson was wildly historically inaccurate.
Recently, Throckmorton and his co-author Michael Coulter, have updated their original book Getting Jefferson Right, coming out with a 2nd edition including new information, as well as a look at St...2023-11-2249 min
The Mediocre Observer (Podcast)Losing My Religion - Doctor of Theology, Author, and Podcast Host, Clint Heacock Shares "God Isn't Real" and Other Holiday Conversation Starters!Former Pastor and church Elder Clint Heacock stops by the pod to talk about how his lifelong pursuit, study, and practice of his faith ultimately led him to abandon it. We talk about the damage religion is doing to our planet and the people on it. He shoots a couple holes in Noah's ark and explains why I probably shouldn't own Hebrew slaves (even if the bible tells me I can). Clint holds a PhD in Theology from the University of Chester, hosts The Mindshift Podcast, and is currently writing a book called Baptism, Third Time’s a Charm (My...2023-11-131h 16
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastHoly Heathen: Blowing It Up and Starting All Over (with Katherine North)
Katherine North is an amazing woman--she grew up as a missionary kid in Japan, but all her life as a young girl she struggled with a major problem: she couldn't bring herself to believe the message of the Christian gospel.
What did she do about it? As the title of the episode suggests, she deconstructed in a major way...and since then, has spent decades of her life putting the pieces back together. Now an author, coach and more, Katherine is a fantastic resource for those of us struggling to discover, or re-discover, our authentic identity after leaving religion behind.
Ka...2023-11-0844 min
The Dismantling Doctrine Podcast4 Disturbing Questions with One Simple Answer: Breaking the Spell of Christian Belief (with Tim Sledge)Once again, I'm joined by my good friend Tim Sledge, who like me is an ex-pastor who has since walked away from both the church and the Christian faith.
This week we're discussing his excellent book, Four Disturbing Questions with One Simple Answer, which has a lot of resonance with me as an ex-Christian. Tim poses four questions that anyone who is in the process of deconstructing, or for that matter even questioning, any aspect of their faith should consider.
Enjoy this chat and let me know what you think!
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Battles of the First World War PodcastSir Philip Gibbs: A Conversation with Clint HeacockDr. Clint Heacock of the Mindshift Podcast joins us to discuss his second-favorite subject, the First World War. Today he talks to us about the life and experiences of Phillip Gibbs, a British war correspondent during the Great War. Project Gutenberg: https://www.gutenberg.org/ “Now It Can Be Told” by Philip Gibbs: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/3317 Interested in the 2024 Lost Battalion Tours’ Meuse-Argonne battlefield tour? Email us: lostbattaliontours@gmail.com The BFWWP is on Patreon...2023-10-1550 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastConfessions of a Former Christian Publisher (with David Morris)Thanks to my good friend Janice Selbie, she introduced me to David Morris, who used to be an employee of some of the biggest Christian publishing houses.
David has since walked away from the faith and his career--at least as a Christian publisher, that is. He's now publishing books largely written by, and for, ex-evangelicals, in some way to make up for his past life's accomplishments as an evangelical working within the machine that is Christian publishing.
This is a wide-ranging and fascinating conversation covering a lot of topics--I hope you enjoy! And don't forget, D...2023-10-1153 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastCrossover Episode Part 2: Cheers to Leaving and MindShift Podcast (with Rachael and Molly)This show is Part 2 of a crossover episode that I've absolutely enjoyed recording. It features the second half of my conversation with Rachael and Molly, the co-hosts of the Cheers to Leaving podcast.
Before listening to this conversation, head over to their platform to catch Part 1!
In this chat, we discuss what it was like to grow up in a fundamentalist Christian home, compare spanking stories and numbers of baptisms, and more. As adults, we're still dealing with the religious traumas caused by our upbringing and time within Christianity.
Become part of the M...2023-09-2854 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastJanuary 6th, 2020 as an Apocalypse: Evangelicals and Conspiracy Theories (with Jared Stacy)-*
Is it really true that evangelicals are known as "the people without questions"? That theology can quickly turn into ideology? And why are so many evangelicals willing to believe in increasingly outlandish, unproven conspiracy theories?
My guest this week, Jared Stacy, is a transplanted American currently living with his family up in Aberdeen, Scotland, where he's pursuing a PhD. His research is leading him into all sorts of discoveries down these lines, as he seeks the answer to those questions and more.
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Speaking Up: Surviving Religions and CultsMindshift - Dr. Clint HeacockDr. Clint Heacock is the host of the MindShift Podcast, which is dedicated to raising awareness of the dangers posed by cults and other high-control religious groups, the agenda of the Christian Right and Dominion theology, and providing resources to those suffering from religious trauma syndrome He is an ex-evangelical former pastor and Bible college teacher. Connect with Dr. Clint Heacock on Twitter, and his website. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2023-09-0144 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastJesus Christ: Good Teacher, Bad Teacher, or Cult Leader? (with David Johnson and Gary Hudson)
This week's episode features not just one returning guest, but two! I brought back David Johson, host of the Skeptics and Seekers podcast, and Gary Hudson, author of Surrender to Reason, to discuss a few burning topics.
One of my listeners asked me a question a few months ago: "Why does Jesus always seem to get a free pass when Christians are deconstructing their faith?" He's seen as a wise guru, a great teacher, one who imparted a great deal of instructions that people everywhere should follow. Even among atheists and agnostics, he's viewed with a lot of respect.
But wa...2023-08-301h 08
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastSurviving Sexual Abuse in Doug Wilson’s Logos School (with Emilie Paige)This week's show comes with an obvious trigger warning related to an account of grooming and sexual abuse of a minor. Emilie Paige tells her horrific story of how she was groomed and finally abused by one of the teachers in Doug Wilson's Logos School out of Moscow, ID. Sadly, we've seen too many examples of what can happen within these deeply patriarchal religious environments, which oftentimes are rife for abuses of all kinds.
What's truly amazing is that in listening to Emilie's story of surviving horrific abuse for years, she's not only come out the back...2023-08-161h 36
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastRoman Collar Crime: The Transgressions of a Small Town Priest (with Charles Utter)This week's episode features a conversation with Charles Utter, author of Roman Collar Crime: VIOLATED: The Transgressions of a Small-Town Priest.
Charles tells the tragic and quite honestly unbelievable story of a priest who preyed on his victims in a small town in South Dakota. Although the book is "fictional," the story is based on a real priest that ran both the parish church as well as a Catholic school in the small town in which he grew up. Thus, the story is based on actual events that Charles investigated, and on which ultimately based his book.2023-08-0242 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastProgramming, Lies, and Manipulation: Surviving the Morningland New Age Cult (with Frankie Tease)This conversation features Frankie Tease, who grew up in a New Age cult called Morningland out of Southern California, back in the 1970s and 80s. Not only did she experience most, if not all, the classic markers of cults, she survived, escaped, and has since dedicated years to rebuilding her life.
Although you may not have experienced life within a New Age cult, you'll see that all the typical tactics are used. We discuss not only those, but how they affected Frankie on multiple levels. I'm sure you'll get a lot out of this conversation.
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The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastSurviving Abduction, Abuse, and a Cult (with Dawn McCarty)
This episode tells a truly unbelievable true story, as shared by abduction and abuse survivor Dawn McCarty. Added to that was the religious trauma syndrome she had to deal with as part of the LDS cult, and you have a situation that few would survive and stay sane.
Not on ly did she survive, she's now in a position to help others who come out of highly traumatic backgrounds. Above all, this is a story of the strength of the human will overcoming tremendous adversities.
Read more about Dawn's story in the book Transforming Pain Into Purpose available on Amazon.
Beco...2023-07-0556 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastDoug Wilson Part 8: The Theological War Thesis and Southern Slavery, as it WasIn this monster, 2+ hour episode, I take a VERY deep dive into the backstory of what led Doug Wilson and his co-author, Steven Wilkins, to write their hugely controversial 1996 booklet, Southern Slavery, As it Was.
If you love history as I do, then you'll appreciate the historical context behind what's called the "theological war thesis"--which draws elements from the Southern "Lost Cause" mythology, among others.
You might be surprised to learn that in reality, the argument advanced by Wilson and Wilkins is really nothing new--Southern Slavery cribs from a variety of sources, all of...2023-06-212h 24
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastThe 2023 Conference on Death, Grief, and Belief (with Dr Terri Daniel)
Once again I'm catching up with my very good friend Dr Terri Daniel to promote her outstanding conference being held in July--the Conference on Death, Grief, and Belief.
Terri and I not only preview some of the amazing speakers at this year's conference, but we also delve into these important topics of death, grief, and belief, and how it all somehow ties into people's religious worldviews. These aspects are especially noticeable when it comes to issues like death, dealing with grief, and trying to understand suffering.
One more thing--listen...2023-06-0749 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastSurrender to Reason: An Ex-Pastor’s Journey of Deconversion (with Gary Hudson)
I recently caught up with a good friend and ex-pastor, Gary Hudson. Gary is the author of the 2018 work Surrender to Reason: New Testament Studies that Disputed Faith.
In it, Gary charts how he, as an evangelical pastor, came to question--and ultimately walk away from--his lifelong Christian faith. Ironically, it was in studying the Bible in preparation for a sermon that started his questioning of the inspiration, inerrancy and infallibility of the Bible.
Once that house of cards started to collapse, the inevitable happened...Gary walked away from both decades of faithful ministry and his Christian faith to boot.
Become a p...2023-05-241h 05
Frankie Files PodcastEp. 56 - Christian Nationalism ft. ExVangelist Dr. Clint Heacock of Mind Shift PodcastIt's 4th Tues. and time to talk to an adult cult kid. Our guest is Dr. Clint Heacock of Mind Shift Podcast (https://pod.link/1199559501). A PhD holder in bible studies, he knows his stuff. We look at Christian nationalism, his public deconstruction, his work exposing religious abuse and shedding a light on false profits in real time. Welcome this world travelling rock N roll drummer to the podcast, file this under Christian nationalism.Also listen on Acast Spotify iHeart Radio Apple Podcasts Youtube Audible GooglePodcasts Podlink Stitcher Pocket Cast Pandora or RSS. Hosted on Acast. S...2023-05-2336 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastCult Child: Escaping Sam Fife’s ”Move of God” Cult (with Vennie Kocsis)This week's guest is ex-cult member Vennie Kocsis, who grew up in the fundamentalist Bible cult founded by Sam Fife--the Move of God, or just "The Move."
Reaching its heyday in the mid-1970s, not only was it growing, it was reaching into the mainstream of society also. Focusing heavily on an end-times, apocalyptic message, Fife's group seemingly started out innocently enough...but ultimately descended into a high-control religious group, complete with compounds, guns, and long working hours for its adherents.
Vennie grew up in the midst of that--and ultimately escaped and began the difficult...2023-05-111h 01
Left at the Valley 2.0The Manosphere with Dr Clint HeacockThe host of the Mindshift podcast: Dr Clint Heacock, returns to continue our deep dive in the incel phenomenon with an explanation of the Manosphere.What is it? What is it doing? and what religious forces are behind it?Troy does a dive into Jesus' infancyBrently does an exposition of a pastor who sees anti-christ cults everywhereand helen does a top 10 of weird aphrodisiacs...2023-05-022h 06Speaking of Cults#348: Doug Wilson, Christian Cult Leader ft. Dr. Clint Heacock
This week I am joined by old friend and fellow podcaster Dr. Clint Heacock, a former Evangelical pastor, to discuss some disturbing religious/political issues surrounding a man named Doug Wilson, an untrained and uncertified religious leader who appears to check every cult leader box on the list and is running an extremist sect in Moscow, Idaho. Enjoy!
The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #384: Doug Wilson, Christian Cult Leader appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.
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The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastGod, Guns, and Abortion (with Frank Schaeffer)
After a few years' break, I finally caught up with my good friend Frank Schaeffer, who of course is the son of the famous Francis Schaeffer. His father not only shaped my views as an evangelical, but indeed an entire generation--and together with Frank, helped kickstart the "pro-life," anti-abortion evangelical movement in America.
Frank and I discuss not only his work in light of the overturning of Roe v. Wade--something he predicted with the installation of Supreme Court justice Amy Coney Barrett during the Trump era--we also dive into gun rights, mass shootings, and the collateral damage these issues are c...2023-04-2954 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastScientology: Cult Control, Coercion, and Manipulation (with Chris Shelton)Having just been on Chris's great show, the Sensibly Speaking Podcast, it was time to return the favor and have him back on MindShift!
As an ex-Scientologist who's been out of the cult for over 10 years, and having run his show for the last 7 or 8 years exposing the inner workings of the cult, Chris is uniquely placed to provide insights into the group.
Not only do we break down the early history of the Church of Scientology and its founder, L Ron Hubbard, we delve into the psychology and tactics used by Scientology to control...2023-04-151h 00
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastPastor to the Public (with Nate Manderson)This week's conversation is with self-professed liberal Christian and writer for Salon, Nate Manderson.
Nate and I had a great chat about his backstory, how he came to walk away from fundamentalist Christianity, and now how his writing is taking on the mainstream evangelical church in America today. Having sold most of its soul to Trumpism, Christian nationalism and a dominionist dream, what's next? Is there any hope for the church, going forward?
In his role as "pastor to the public," Nate uses his platform to write incisive critiques of what evangelicalism has become today...2023-04-0154 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastDoug Wilson Part 7: Biblical Patriarchy and the ManosphereWelcome to this, our FINAL instalment in the ongoing and exhaustive look into controversial pastor and influencer, Doug Wilson.
This episode begins by defining and discussing the similarities and differences between the "complementarian" and "biblical patriarchy" views, assesses Wilson's views in light of that overview, then moves into a definition of the "manosphere."
What exactly is it? And why is it even important to look at? Turns out that the toxic message of biblical patriarchy is moving into the secular "manosphere"--and if you've never heard of it, after this episode, I believe you'll be...2023-03-171h 47Left at the Valley 2.0Project Blitz with Dr Clint HeacockDr Clint Heacock, host of the Mindshift podcast, drops by to join our crew and talk about what we think could be behind the ressurgence of christian dominionism in north america: project Blitzwhat's the end goal?how do we deal with it?blitzwatch.orgpoliticalresearch.orgDawn talks about a possible mysterious Godzilla eggTroy gives us anothe fascinating myth person St-Mary of Egyptand Brently talks about an African Jesus in need of police protection2023-03-151h 46
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastDoug Wilson Part 6: My Most Famous Student (with Dr Nick Gier)We're nearly finished with our deep dive into controversial pastor--cult leader?--Doug Wilson out of Moscow, Idaho. This week's episode features an absolutely fascinating conversation with his former professor at the University of Idaho, Dr Nick Gier.
Their relationship goes back to the late 1970s when Dr Gier was a professor of philosophy and Wilson was a young student, keen to evangelize, debate, and spread his version of the Christian faith. Over the decades they've had numerous run-ins, and Dr Gier has written extensively about Wilson and the various scandals and controversies he's been involved in.
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The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastBonus Episode: A Follow-up to ”A Christian” Defense of Slavery (with David Johnson)In this special bonus episode, returning guest David Johnson and I took another in-depth look at the question we covered in our recent podcast on a so-called "Christian" defense of slavery.
What was meant to be our February MindShift Zoom call turned into a great follow-up conversation on this subject, examining a few questions and comments listeners of the first episode raised after hearing the show.
As a result, David and I were able to go back and do a closer examination of some of the New Testament passages we didn't get a chance to c...2023-02-241h 05
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastDoug Wilson Part 5: A ”Christian” Defense of Slavery (with David Johnson)
As we're nearing the end of our exhaustive--and potentially exhausting--deep dive into all things Doug Wilson, back in October of 2022 I reached out to former guest David Johnson, host of the Skeptics and Seekers as well as the Red Letters podcasts for some help.
This episode has been a long time coming, but it's definitely worth the wait. David and I start with Wilson's book Southern Slavery as it Was and then branch out from there into both historical as well as modern defenses of slavery from a Christian point of view.
We'll conclude the episode by taking a long lo...2023-02-171h 34
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastDoug Wilson Part 4: His Toxic Theology
We're back for our inaugural episode of 2023, continuing our exploration of all things Doug Wilson, the controversial pastor/cult leader running a sprawling religious empire out of Moscow, ID.
In this long-form episode, I'll cover three of Wilson's more controversial---and ultimately toxic--theological distinctives: the "federal vision" theology, general equity theonomy, and finally biblical patriarchy.
In each case, not only will I explain the position itself as best I can, I'll also touch base on why exactly they are toxic, damaging to individuals, and lead to things like religious trauma syndrome and other forms of abuse.
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The Divorcing Religion PodcastClint Heacock - From Missional Metalhead to Ex-ChristianClint Heacock Divorced: Evangelical ChristianityDr. Clint Heacock is an ex-evangelical pastor and Bible college teacher of over 20 years who is now committed to helping formerly religious people unpick their indoctrination, mind control, and conditioning - and take back their lives. You may recognize Clint as the host of MindShift podcast, and as a speaker at the Conference on Religious Trauma earlier this year (CORT2022). In this episode of the Divorcing Religion podcast, Clint gets personal about life in and out of religion.FIND CLINT:https://mindshiftpodcast.co.uk/https://twitter.com/M...2023-01-131h 00
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastDoug Wilson Part 3: The Many Scandals
In this third instalment examining the controversial pastor Doug Wilson out of Moscow, ID, we're diving into the decades--yes, decades--of scandals and controversies that have been attached to him and his associated ministries.
In our continuing investigation of all things Wilson, this episode demonstrates that not only has Wilson's teachings and leadership style created a culture that is rife for abuses, due to his nepotism, politicking and cronyism, Wilson has so far not only managed to evade all consequences, he's been insulated from any meaningful accountability.
Despite all of these scandals, nonetheless Wilson continues to be platformed by leading evangelical le...2022-12-302h 01
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastDoug Wilson Part 2 - Biblical Patriarchy: Power, Control & Spiritual Abuse (with Cait West)As I was doing all of my research on controversial pastor Doug Wilson out of Moscow, Idaho, I came across his troublesome teachings on so-called "biblical patriarchy." That also led me to a disturbing movement called the "stay-at-home-daughters" (SAHD)--something which is also within Wilson's orbit.
This week's guest, Cait West, is a survivor of both. She grew up in a Christian homeschooling environment and also was also a part of the SAHD too. Having escaped both, Cait is not only speaking out and writing about her experiences and the trauma she suffered, she is now an...2022-12-1650 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastDoug Wilson Part 1 : Misunderstood Pastor or Cult Leader?This episode marks the first foray into the sprawling religious empire created by Doug Wilson, pastor of Christ Church in Moscow Idaho. Already on my radar from several years ago when I did an episode with Mark Potok, formerly of the Southern Poverty Law Center, who investigated the controversial pastor back in 2004.
In this 2+ hour episode, we'll uncover Wilson's backstory: where did he come from? How did he become the pastor of Christ Church? How has he gone on to establish a controversial religious empire based out of Moscow? And finally, we want to start looking at...2022-12-022h 09
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastThe Big Lie and the New Apostolic Reformation: A Christo-Fascist Network? (with Jennifer Cohn)This week's episode features a conversation with Jennifer Cohn, an investigative journalist who primarily writes for the Bucks County Beacon.
Through her work investigating issues such as election integrity in the runup to the 2016 election, Jennifer became aware of the NAR--the New Apostolic Reformation--and the key players who've been pushing Trump's "Big Lie" following the 2020 election.
In their quest to take dominion, these so-called "apostles and prophets" are pushing the Lie--but what's their motivation? Jennifer and I touch on this as well as numerous other related topics, key leaders, and influencers within this movement that...2022-11-181h 01
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastDominionism as a Strategy of Mobilization (with Dr André Gagné)Returning guest Dr André Gagné from Concordia University in Montreal, Canada, is an expert on the field of dominion theology, the New Apostolic Reformation, the Christian Right and what's going on in Trump world.
Thus: what better thing to do than to reach out to him after a few years to catch up on what's going on in that universe? The good news is that André's book on the evangelicals behind Trump will be soon translated into English--and I'm sensing another episode coming up!
Will the evangelicals promoting Trump's "Big Lie" go away anytime soo...2022-11-0458 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastFrom IFB Pastor to Atheist (with Bruce Gerencser)
Continuing our theme of speaking with ex-pastors, this week's conversation is another good one, featuring my friend Bruce Gerencser. A former Independent Fundamental Baptist preacher of several decades, Bruce has a lifetime's experience unpacking not only the church and the Bible, as an avowed atheist now, he has an incredible story to tell about his journey.
In this chat Bruce and I swap stories of life as a pastor, break down the differences between fundamentalism and mainstream evangelicalism, and finally conclude by looking at helpful coping strategies to rebuild your life and reclaim your authentic identity after leaving religion behind.
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The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastChildish Things (with Dave Warnock)I'm super happy to be reconnecting with my good friend Dave Warnock of "Dying Out Loud"--it's been at least 3+ years since we last talked last, maybe more.
In the meantime, Dave has come out with a brand-new book called Childish Things: A Memoir. I listened to it on Audible, which I'd highly recommend as Dave himself reads the text. This makes his memoirs even more poignant, especially if you grew up in evangelicalism in the 1970s-1990s--the "Jesus Movement" and all that went with it.
Dave and I discuss his time as a Christian...2022-10-0853 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastTULIP: The Poisonous Flower of Calvinism (with Dr David D’Andre)This week's episode features a fascinating discussion with returning guest, Dr David D'Andre, on the subject of his brand-new book entitled TULIP: The Poisonous Flower of Calvinism.
Why Calvinism, of all the theological systems that are out there? As David makes clear, this theology in particular has a number of problems associated with it, both historically and currently. For many of us who identify as "exvangelical," we came out of churches that preached various aspects of Calvin's theology. Just to name a few: biblical patriarchy, dominion theology, and Christian nationalism.
We will also conclude by...2022-09-241h 01
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastThe Covenant, Sword & Arm of the Lord: God, Guns & Extremism (with Kerry Noble)
This week's guest is Kerry Noble, former member of the Christian militia group The Covenant, Sword & Arm of the Lord (CSA). This group operated out of Arkansas primarily in the 1970s and 80s--and Kerry was one of the major leaders involved in the movement.
Built on conspiracy theories, twisted theology, and a dystopian vision of the future, the CSA in many ways was the forerunner to a number of alt-right, white supremacist militia groups we see today. Kerry's story is not only an unbelievable one, it also gives a step-by-step illustration of how a person can be recruited into what e...2022-09-101h 26
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastRecovering a Sense of Agency: Lifting the Veil of Mormon Mind Control (with Luna Corbden)This episode features Luna Corbden, whom I met through a mutual friend--Janice Selbie--when we both were presenters at the recent CORT2022, the Conference on Religious Trauma.
Luna grew up as a Mormon, deconstructed their faith, and subsequently left the church--but not without a lot of baggage and religious trauma. Similar to many of us who've left controlling religions, Luna has done a tremendous amount of work unpacking the teachings, figuring out the psychology behind it, and rebuilding their life moving forward.
Whether or not you had any association with Mormonism, but have experience with controlling...2022-08-271h 01
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastTheological Jenga Part 2 (with Brian & Troy from ”I Was a Teenage Fundamentalist” Podcast)This special bonus episode is actually Part 2 of a conversation I recently had with Brian and Troy, the co-hosts of the "I Was a Teenage Fundamentalist" podcast out of Melbourne, Australia.
We discuss their backstory coming out of evangelicalism, rebuilding their lives post-religion, and discuss resources for reconstructing your authentic self.
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I was a Teenage Fundamentalist. An Exvangelical podcast.060 -Theological Jenga Part 1 with Clint Heacock (Leaving Part 12)This is a special crossover episode with Dr Clint Heacock of the Mindshift Podcast. Clint was a teenage fundamentalist, pastor, Bible College teacher, and completed a PhD on the Book of Ezekiel and preaching. We ask him how he came to jettison his Christian faith after being so dedicated for so many decades.
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The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastLeaving Christianity & Becoming a Materialist with Doubts (with Dean Krosecz)
This week's episode features returning guest and former host of "The People I Meet" podcast, Dean Krosecz.
Dean walked away from charismatic Christianity years ago, and finally the faith altogether. In the process, in his words, he's become "a strict materialist with doubts"--but what does that mean, and how does it relate to him rebuilding his life post-Christianity?
In the telling of his story, we'll discover that Dean has found peace with himself--writing poetry (which he will share), getting in tune with nature, music and photography. All of...2022-08-1359 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastGood Psychology, Bad Theology, & Church Victim Abuse Advocacy (with Mike Phillips)This week's guest is my friend Mike Phillips, currently a therapist in California who does a lot of work in the area of religious trauma syndrome--a subject I am not only very familiar with as a sufferer of RTS myself, but I've devoted a lot of time to it also.
Like me, Mike is an ex-pastor who tells an incredible tale of not only being in church ministry for decades, but also how he transitioned out of both pastoral ministry and Christianity too. In his journey to become a therapist, he developed a speciality of supporting and...2022-07-301h 01
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastThe Storm is Upon Us: Inside the QAnon Conspiracy Theory Cult (with Mike Rothschild)This week's episode features a conversation with conspiracy theory expert Mike Rothschild, author of the excellent 2021 book The Storm is Upon Us: How QAnon Became a Movement, a Cult, and a Conspiracy Theory of Everything.
We begin at the beginning: what is the appeal of conspiracy theories in general, and why are so many people attracted to them historically? Conspiracy theories are nothing new, and have been around for as long as humans can remember. QAnon, it turns out, is a rehash of a number of extant and time-tested conspiracy theories, tropes, memes and more.
H...2022-07-1658 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastThy Kingdom Come: Exploring Christian Internationalism (with Dr Melani McAlister)While most of us may be familiar with the concept of Christian nationalism in the United States among evangelicals, what about the idea of Christian internationalism? That's the topic that this week's guest, Dr Melani McAlister of George Washington University, happens to be an expert on.
We begin by discussing the war in Ukraine and how it shone a spotlight on the widespread American evangelical support for Vladimir Putin--a development that shocked many, given that the Soviet Union was seen by many Christians as the biggest threat to Christianity during the Cold War. What has changed? She...2022-07-0252 min
The Cult Vault#181 Christian Nationalism - Interview with Dr Clint HeacockIn this episode I chat with Dr Clint Heacock about his show The Mindshift Podcast, about Clint's life growing up in a non-denominational Christian environment and his journey into deconstruction and educating others. This conversation is particularly prevalent given the overturning of the RoeVSWade Ruling by the US Supreme Court today. Clint's Podcast - https://mindshiftpodcast.co.uk/Ciria's Show "Cults and Overcoming" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq5yaIICSgQ-ADw86VHJ52QThe Frankie Files - https://anchor.fm/frankie-teaseCrimepedia - https://www.crimepediapodcast.com/our-storyCult Vault Shop - cultvaultpodcast.com/shopCrimecon UK 2022 - https://www.crimecon.co.uk/Get In...2022-06-241h 17
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastThe Brainwashing of My Dad: The Corrosive Effects of Far-Right Media (with Jen Senko)This week's guest is documentary filmmaker and author, Jen Senko, whose brilliant work The Brainwashing of My Dad tells the story of not just how her father Frank literally became a different person due to the effects of far-right media, it also tells the story of how conservative media became such a powerhouse.
More than likely, you have friends, family, friends or other acquaintances who have been sucked into the cult-like vortex of far-right conservative media, imbibing from a constant drip-tap of propaganda, misinformation, disinformation, outrage politics, and conspiracy theories.
If you despair that they...2022-06-1851 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastPower That Leads to Dominion: The Drive to Overturn Roe v Wade (with Peter Montgomery)
In light of the recent "leak" of the Supreme Court's apparent ruling to overturn the 1973 Roe v Wade case, I reached out to former guest Peter Montgomery of the Right Wing Watch to bring us up to speed on what's happening.
Aside from the leak itself, which is unprecedented to say the least, the much larger concern of American citizens should be the slow erosion of progressive, democratic rights that have been so hard-won over the last several decades. In addition to that, as we have seen, the dominionist aim of much of...2022-06-0452 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastSo You Wanna Live in a Theocracy: Utopia or Dystopia?
This week's episode is one I've wanted to do a long time--it's based on a section of a book I'm working on about Christian Reconstructionism and the roots of dominion theology.
But the recent news about the Supreme Court's "leak" on the upcoming reversal of Roe v Wade got me to thinking that it's time to take a look at historical examples of theocratic kingdoms on earth. Were they more of a utopian existence, or a dystopian nightmare akin to Margaret Atwood's fictional Gilead?
I hope you enjoy this...2022-05-211h 04
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastPicking up the Threads of Who We Are: Life after the Jehovah’s Witnesses (with Stephen and Celine Mather)This week's guest features a father-and-daughter combination, Stephen Mather and his daughter Celine, who are co-hosts of the "What Should I Think About...?" podcast.
As an ex-JW, Stephen is uniquely qualified to shed light on this cult--and although his daughter Celine was never a part of it, as a non-JW with many family members still involved in the religion, she has a fascinating perspective to offer also.
Enjoy this thought-provoking chat with Stephen and Celine!
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The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastInside RFR: Recovering From Religion (with Rachel Hunt)This week's guest is Rachel Hunt, who is an ambassador for the RFR: the Recovering From Religion organization founded by our good friend (and former guest) Dr Darrel Ray.
Not only does Rachel share her own story of escaping from religion, she provides excellent information on what the RFR does, how you can be a part of it, and how you can support this tremendous work that is helping so many people literally worldwide.
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The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastThe Shock Troops of the Christian Right (with Katherine Stewart)This week's episode features an alarming conversation with returning guest Katherine Stewart, author of The Power Worshipers and The Good News Club, as well as numerous articles in a variety of online sources.
In this chat, we discussed a January 2022 article Katherine wrote in The New Republic in which she not only identified some of the funding behind several Christian Right organizations in America, but also a more alarming trend: the support for Trump's "Big Lie" by these same outfits.
Not only are they pushing it, they are weaponizing this conspiracy theory to motivate both p...2022-04-0843 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastEscaping Utopia: Rebuilding Your Life After Growing up in a Cult (with Dr Janja Lalich)This week's returning guest is ex-cult member, now sociologist and cult expert--Dr Janja Lalich, co-author along with fellow cult survivor Kala McLaren of the excellent book Escaping Utopia: Growing up in a Cult, Getting Out, and Starting Over.
In this episode, Dr Lalich and I take a deep dive into not just what makes a cult a cult, but more specifically her "bounded choice" model of cults, with its four major components. If you've come out of a cult, fundamentalist religion, or any other sort of high-demand group with undue influence, then you will benefit from this e...2022-03-2546 min
Ask Doctor DeathEP 25: Leaving Religion: A Step-by-Step Guide with Clint Heacock PhDDr. Clint Heacock gives us a sneak peek at the the presentation he'll be giving at our 2022 CONFERENCE ON DEATH GRIEF AND BELIEF, in which he will share a practical roadmap for the deconstruction journey.This information is relevant -- and critical -- for a growing segment of our population. In Pew Research Center surveys conducted in 2018 and 2019, 65% of American adults described themselves as Christians, down 12 points over the past decade. Similarly, the number of people who identify as atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular,” has increased by 9% since 2009. Clint is a former evang...2022-03-1848 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastBonus Episode - CORT2022: The Conference on Religious Trauma (with Janice Selbie)We've got the first bonus episode of 2022!
I'm happy to welcome back returning guest, good friend Janice Selbie, to talk about the upcoming CORT2022--the Conference on Religious Trauma. We not only delve into which great presenters she has lined up for this important conference, we discuss the many and varied aspects of religious trauma. What is it, who is affected by it, and what can you do about it if you suffer from it?
Also listen in for an important code that will get you a discount to this event!
Join the...2022-03-1151 minThe Dismantling Doctrine PodcastNo Longer a Professional Christian (with Dr David D’Andre)This week's conversation is a fascinating one with American expat Dr David D'Andre, currently residing in Canada but who's lived in such places as Kiev and Brussels. Originally from the United States, David has a fascinating story of deconstruction of his former Christian beliefs from academic, theological and personal points of view combined.
David's story is a fascinating one--and one that you'll hopefully resonate with too. As a thoughtful person who takes an academic approach to the subject, David blends both the theoretical and the practical in his approach to the idea of deconverting from one's former...2022-03-041h 01
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastThe Conference on Death, Grief & Belief (with Dr Terri Daniel)
This week's episode features returning guest, "Dr Death"--my good friend, Dr Terri Daniel.
Terri is hosting a conference coming up in July of this year called "The Conference on Death, Grief and Belief." Not only do we discuss which guests will be at this year's conference--including yours truly--but we delve into its purpose and who should attend it.
Beyond that, we have a fascinating chat about toxic theology, death and the so-called "theology of suffering"--which helps to explain why so many people turn to religion to answer many of life's Big Questions. But what happens when the answers ar...2022-02-1852 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastExploring Religious Addiction (with Michael of the Religious Addicts Anonymous)
This week's guest is Michael, who self-identifies as a recovering religious addict. But what exactly is "religious addiction," and how would you even know if you are one?
Writing on the Religious Addicts Anonymous blog, Michael defines religious addiction as follows: "The religious addict has developed the capability to produce a spiritual high and/or trance-like state, the source of which the addict attributes to a HP [higher power], but in reality the cause is a pathological response in the mind of the addict to heavily ritualised behaviours."
If you've left religion, a cult, or a high-control group behind, part of...2022-02-0450 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastWhen Family Hurts: Finding Wholeness and Healing (with Rebekah Drumsta)This episode features returning guest, Rebekah Drumsta, author of a brand-new book entitled When Family Hurts: 30 Days to Finding Healing and Clarity.
Have you had to cut off relationships with family or friends because they were simply too toxic, abusive or hurtful? Maybe the "family secrets" came out and left you devastated, or abuses from the past became too painful to bear. Or perhaps cutting off relationships wasn't your choice--it was made for you by someone else who decided to cut you off.
Whatever your situation, the simple fact is: sometimes family hurts us the...2022-01-2154 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastBeyond Belief: Inside the Rise of Global Pentecostalism (with Elle Hardy)This inaugural episode of 2022 features a fascinating conversation with Australian-born author and investigative journalist, Elle Hardy. She's the author of a brand-new book entitled Beyond Belief: How Global Pentecostalism is Taking Over the World.
In addition to researching the history and the various sociological aspects of global Pentecostalism, Elle was able to conduct amazing field research worldwide, studying the movement in a number of countries. In addition to that, she also delves into the more political aspirations of the movement, tracing the so-called "7 Mountains Mandate" dominion theology particular to more of the charismatic movement.
I...2022-01-0755 minLeft at the Valley 2.0The Threat of Christian Dominionism with Dr Clint HeacockDr Clint Heacock returns to talk to the crew about the very threat of Christian Dominionism. What can we and should we do about the relentless march of christians towards their goal of world domination?Sabrina does a story on a weird beauty pageantHertzy talks about a christmas tree catching fire and fox news losing their shit and Brentlee talks about a christian fanatics who thinks everyone should have nuclear weapons2021-12-181h 29
Cult HackersMindShift Time! Interview with Clint Heacock on Religious Deconstruction and Dominion TheologyClint Heacock was raised in a Fundamentalist Christian group. As a young man he studied theology and Bible studies in various academic settings and completed his PHD in 2011 with his dissertation being a rhetorical-critical study of the book of Ezekiel. He is a former pastor of an Evangelical church and served in full time ministry.
He moved to the UK and started a podcast called 'The Preacher's Forum'. Already deconstructing his fundamentalist beliefs he found during the podcast that he was questioning everything. He changed the name of the podcast to MindShift and now explores christian deconstruction, re...2021-12-181h 05
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastDeconstructing Your Former Beliefs (with David Hayward, The Naked Pastor)This final episode of 2021 features another returning guest and good friend from Canada--David Hayward, "The Naked Pastor."
A former evangelical pastor like me, David and I go way back and share a lot in common since we both left both our ministries and our former faiths behind. I wanted to reconnect with him after we were on a panel last year's CORT 2020 conference on religious trauma.
In addition to some live deconstructing, we get into the subject of David's artwork--the messages and themes that are so prevalent in his work. I think you will find t...2021-12-1759 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastDeconstructing: When Your Authentic Self Breaks Through (with DrJosie McSkimmming)This week's guest is another returning friend--Dr Josie McSkimming from Sydney, Australia.
I reached out to her recently because I was interested in speaking with her about not only her backstory in Christian fundamentalism, and how she got out of that system, but also about her work as a psychotherapist who specializes in helping clients recover from such afflictions as religious trauma syndrome.
As she views it, our authentic or preferred self is the one we need to recover, rebuild and reconstruct after leaving religion or a cult group behind. How do we do it? L...2021-12-031h 11
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastRe-Release! Surviving a Fundamentalist Upbringing (with Valerie Cunningham)This episode is something I've wanted to do for a very long time--a re-release of an old recording I did with my sister Valerie way back in 2017 when she came to visit me in North Wales.
We sat down and shared stories of what it was like to grow up in not just a fundamentalist home, but actually a cult--the Bill Gothard Bible cult. Hearing Valerie's story will move you...perhaps even to tears.
I hope you get a lot out of this re-released episode.
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The Dismantling Doctrine Podcast#TexasTaliban: Inside the Texas Abortion Law (with Peter Montgomery)This week's episode couldn't be more timely--discussing the draconian and hugely controversial Texas abortion law, Senate Bill 8 (SB8).
Now that it is finally being argued at the Supreme Court, we have to ask: will the Christian dominionists who have played the long game in terms of appointing conservative and anti-abortion judges finally succeed in overturning Roe v Wade? This has been their strategy and they have been working at this for literally decades.
That Texas even attempted to pass this law in 2021 is merely testament to not only the 3 conservative judges appointed during the Trump e...2021-11-0540 min
In Conversation… with Frank SchaefferMindshift • Dr. Clint Heacock and Frank SchaefferIn this Bonus Episode of In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, Dr. Clint Heacock of the Mindshift Podcast interviews Frank Schaeffer on his new book, Fall in Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy.Available November 2 from HCI Books.Get the BookSubscribe to The Mindshift PodcastI have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 ti...2021-11-021h 17
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastBonus Episode: Divorcing Religion Workshop (with Janice Selbie)
This special bonus episode features a conversation with my very good friend, Religious Recovery Consultant Janice Selbie!
Starting the 7th of November, she is running another one of her amazing "Divorcing Religion" workshops. We've talked about this before but I wanted to touch base with Janice to give her a chance not only to promote the workshop, but to explain why such a thing is so needed for those of us who have left religion or high-control groups behind.
In addition to this chat, we also get into CORT 2022--the Conference on Religious Trauma she is putting together for next...2021-11-0140 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastBonus Episode: Is Evangelicalism a Cult? Dr Robert Jay Lifton‘s 8 Markers of CultsThis bonus episode is something I've wanted to do for a long time--compare evangelicalism with cult psychology and tactics. I've done a lot of research and reading on this subject, and have reflected on both my own experiences as a former evangelical, as well as that of a great many others.
In this episode, I draw primarily on the work of Dr Robert Jay Lifton's seminal 1961 work, Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism. I also make use of his 1991 article entitled "Cult Formation" to go through not only his 8 markers of cults, but to compare them b...2021-10-221h 09
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastInside the Dominionist Agenda of The Family (with Jonathan Larsen)This week's guest is Jonathan Larsen, managing editor over at The Young Turks (TYT) Network.
Ever since he and his colleagues obtained the formerly-secret invitation list to the yearly National Prayer Breakfast that The Family--otherwise known as "The Fellowship Foundation"--wanted desperately to keep a secret, Jonathan has been doing some great investigative reporting on this uber-secretive, dominionist Christian organization.
First reported on by Jeff Sharlet in his book, and later Netflix series "The Family," this clandestine evangelical organization has been actively working the corridors of power worldwide for decades, building relationships and seeking out "k...2021-10-1653 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastBonus Episode: How Religion Affects Our Mental Health (with Rachel Bernstein)In this special bonus episode, which I've long been promising is indeed coming, I was able to interview therapist Rachel Bernstein of the IndoctriNation Podcast.
This is actually Part 2 of two episodes we did--for the first half of the chat, you'll have to head over to the IndoctriNation podcast to catch Part 1. There, we discussed my backstory in evangelicalism, my deconstruction, and the journey to rebuild since leaving Christianity behind.
In this episode, we focus specifically on the important question: how does religion affect people's mental health? What resources are available for those of us...2021-10-0734 min
IndoctriNationMindShift w/Dr. Clint HeacockThis week we are proud to present a crossover episode with Dr. Clint Heacock, of the MindShift podcast. Dr. Heacock is an ex-evangelical pastor and Bible college teacher of over 20 years. After deconstructing his former Christian faith and leaving it behind more than a decade ago, he’s used his podcast platform to educate and help those who have left religion to rebuild their lives. In this first part of their 2 part conversation, Clint explains to Rachel the years-long process of questioning his faith that ultimately led him away from the Christian church. Dr. Heacock also breaks down the fundamentalist ro...2021-10-0651 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastEvil Geniuses: Explaining America‘s Vast Wealth Inequality (with Kurt Andersen)Kurt Andersen is a returning guest, this time to talk about his sequel to Fantasyland, which is his excellent and thought-provoking work, Evil Geniuses: The Unmaking of America--A Recent History.
How exactly does it function as a sequel to Fantasyland? In this followup book, Kurt reveals that the vast wealth and income inequality in America was not by accident, but by design--the work of the "evil geniuses" he identifies in the book. And not only did the evil geniuses succeed, the "fantasy-industrial complex" he identified in Fantasyland is hard at work, providing a distraction for all the...2021-10-0256 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastA Conversation with Seth Andrews, Host of The Thinking AtheistFor those two or three people who are unaware of who Seth Andrews is, all we have to say is "The Thinking Atheist" and you'll understand everything.
Seth and I had a fantastic conversation recently in which we discussed his backstory, his views on being a former "Fox News Christian," dominion theology and the recent Texas abortion law, and more. In this wide-ranging conversation, we covered a lot of ground and had an amazing time doing so. I am certain you'll enjoy spending an hour or so with Seth, the host of The Thinking Atheist.
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The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastBonus Episode: Ten Things Christians Wish Jesus Hadn‘t Taught (with Dr David Madison)In this special bonus episode, I'm welcoming back returning guest Dr David Madison, who was on the podcast several years ago.
Our mutual friend Tim Sledge suggested I interview him about his new book, Ten Things Christians Wish Jesus Hadn't Taught. This very readable book--designed to be read through easily in one sitting--is aimed primarily at Christians who are open to questioning their faith, and potentially dialoguing with others about some of the questions, doubts, and cognitive dissonance they may have been harboring, but were afraid to admit.
Available now on Amazon--click the link here...2021-09-0659 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastTaking Dominion: Inside the Christian Homeschooling Bubble (with Ryan Stollar)This episode features author and activist Ryan Stollar, who grew up in the Christian homeschooling bubble, but has since become a staunch advocate for those who unfortunately suffered a great many abuses within that system.
A former editor and author at the now-archived Homeschoolers Anonymous blog for several years, Ryan has since branched out and is currently doing a lot of writing--including working on two books at the moment. He is still very active within the former homeschooling community, and is very active on social media with support groups for survivors.
This episode reveals much...2021-08-2856 minLeft at the Valley 2.0Mindshift with Dr Clint HeacockDr Clint Heacock of the Mindshift podcast joins us to discuss his journey into apostacy and away from being a christian pastor. His insights make him the ultimate insider into the church.Brent talks about Matt Powell the hate preacherand we have a deep discussion of the treatment of first nations in Canada in light of the tragedy in Kamloops where 215 dead children are found2021-06-011h 43
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The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastMindShift Deconversion (with Clint, Karen and Bonnie)Thanks to the wonderful Karen & Bonnie from the Deconversion Therapy Podcast, we are happy to bring the full episode of our conversation from the other day. We had a great chat, talking about our own backstories growing up in evangelicalism, Trump politics and the Christian Right, and which evangelical leaders we'd like to punch in the throat right now. Enjoy! Support MindShift Podcast on Patreon! Contact Information Follow Deconversion Therapy on Twitter @The_DeConverted Follow me on Twitter @MindShift20182020-12-161h 39
The Not Your Grandmother's Book Club PodcastNYGBC: The Right Side of History Chapter 4 With Guest Clint HeacockThis Week!
We get to chapter 4 of The Right Side of History, "Coming Together" wherein Ben tries to explain religion co-opting better ideas it found from pagans as a core element of "Western Culture." To be fair, I still enjoy Christmas too.
We were joined this week by special guest Clint Heacock, a former preacher, bible college professor, and host of the MindShift podcast.
If you would like to find more of Clint, and we recommend you do. You can find The Mindshift Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. You can also find...2020-10-211h 00
Ask Doctor DeathEP 13: Death and Religious Trauma Syndrome - with Dr. Clint Heacock - WARNING... Politics and Religion Being Discussed!WARNING! If you aren't comfortable with conversations about religion or politics, this episode talks about both and how they are entwined in today's America. We also talk about the toxic nature of Judeo-Christian theology and images of God, so if these topics (and a little profanity) make you uncomfortable, we respectfully suggest that you don't listen to this episode. Or if you do, listen at your own risk.Our guest today is Dr. Clint Heacock, a former Christian, former pastor and former bible college teacher who talks about his childhood in an evangelical cult and...2020-10-1156 min
Graceful Atheist PodcastDr. Clint Heacock: Reconstruction after deconstructionMy guest this week is Dr. Clint Heacock. Clint is the host of the Mindshift Podcast that focuses on reconstruction after deconstruction. Clint grew up in the Church of Christ with parents who followed the Bill Gothard method of child rearing. Clint now describes this as cultic practices. What I need to do is discover the authentic Christianity … and then I wasn’t able to do it. After pursuing a PhD in Theology in the U.K. while teaching Clint began to recolonize the disparity between what he believed and what he was teaching. The problems with the bibl...2020-04-301h 13
Still Unbelievable!Episode 22 - What happens when people leave the church - with Dr Clint HeacockAndrew and Matthew are joined by Dr Clint Heacock from the Mindshift podcast to talk about an article he wrote listing many reasons why people leave the Church.
This is part of a series of podcasts and episodes we are involved in on why people leave Christianity.
Clint's article can be found here: https://medium.com/@clintheacock/what-happens-after-people-leave-the-church-951db55300a0
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2020-03-152h 04Speaking of CultsWhat is Dominionism and Why Should You Care? ft. Dr. Clint Heacock
This week I am joined once again by Dr. Clint Heacock, a former evangelical minister, who has a great deal of personal and professional experience in and out of the evangelical world. He and I discuss in detail the topic of dominionism, a movement within the US Christian world to gain political and social power exclusively for Christians so as to take over government, law, education, art, etc. We go over what this movement is about, who is involved and why we as citizens should know and care about this. Enjoy!
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This week I am joined once again by Dr. Clint Heacock, former Evangelical minister, as we walk through Dr. Robert J. Lifton’s 8 points of cultic mind control in authoritarian groups, comparing a lot of Scientology with what happens in Evangelicism and how these line up precisely along Lifton’s characterstics. Enjoy!
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2019-11-092h 17Speaking of CultsCult Commentary on ”The Family” ft. Clint Heacock
This week I am joined by former Evangelical pastor Clint Heacock to discuss the new documentary “The Family” about covert fundamentalist political influence in Washington DC and around the world. We discuss the cultish overtones of this activity and why it’s a threat to our democracy.
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The Dismantling Doctrine Podcast042: Disentangling Yourself from Religion (with Valerie Heacock Cunningham) Catch this great conversation between myself and my sister, Valerie Heacock Cunningham! This is a 1-year update from our podcast we did last year entitled "Surviving a Fundamentalist Upbringing." What's changed in both of our lives since last year? How have we processed the traumatic experiences from our evangelical and fundamentalist past, and moved past it? How have we disentangled ourselves from religion, and how has that changed us? Find out in this episode! 2018-10-261h 04
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastShow 32: MindShift: Becoming a Person of Positivity (With Lisa Heacock)What does it take to have a MindShift and move from being a negative, cynical person to a person of positivity? This involves far more than just "putting on a happy face" and pretending that everything is fine. It's a MindShift...a complete transformation of your mental awareness and thought-processes, which is extremely difficult. Lisa and I talk about how hard it is to become a "person of positivity." This means on the one hand, not living in denial; on the other hand, avoiding over-spiritualizing your life. At times, it may involve even removing extremely...2017-07-2052 min
The Dismantling Doctrine PodcastShow 17: Lisa's Story: Post-Abortion Recovery, Healing & RestorationThis podcast is something very, very special. My wife, Lisa Heacock, shares her story of when she had an abortion at age 17. Attending a Christian high school at the time only made things worse...find out what happened, and also how she was able to discover wholeness, healing, forgiveness, restoration and recovery on her journey. This is an open, honest, and inspirational story that will affect you on many levels. To be clear: this episode is not about arguing the politics or ethics of abortion. Without denying the events of the past, we w...2017-04-0747 min