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Wild TailsWild TailsEpisode 19: From SeaWorld to Zoo Logic with Dr Grey StaffordIn this episode of Wild Tails, host Mike Bona welcomes Dr. Grey Stafford — zoologist, animal behavior expert, and host of the Zoo Logic podcast. With decades of experience in zoos and aquariums, Dr. Stafford has been a leading voice in advancing animal welfare and training through science-based methods. He shares behind-the-scenes stories and professional insights into the world of exotic animal care, the evolution of positive reinforcement training, and the challenges of public perception around zoos and animal programs. This episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about animals, conservation, and how we responsibly care for wildlife un...2025-05-0132 minZoo LogicZoo LogicLooking Back and AheadWith this first episode of Zoo Logic in the New Year, we hand this week's hosting duties over to our number one supporter and spouse of nearly 35 years, Karen Stafford to review key issues from the previous zoological year and the regular host's thoughts on the new podcast year ahead.  Animal Care Software2025-01-0239 minZoo LogicZoo LogicBefore You Burn That Bridge or Leave the Animal FieldAs part of Zoo Logic's year-long look at the well-being of animal care professionals, we invited a very special guest with Human Resources expertise across all aspects of the employer-employee spectrum. Karen Stafford is an HR veteran of Fortune 500 corporate and non-profit organizations, as well as, a professor at the W.P. Carey School of Business at Arizona State University. She's also knowledgeable about the zoo and aquarium space having witnessed more animal training shows, TV appearances and late night feedings of wild animals in her guest bathroom than any spouse of 34 years should have to endure! Karen offers...2024-12-0557 min50 Shades of Planning50 Shades of PlanningGrey BeltSam Stafford was in London recently and took the opportunity to catch up with friends of the podcast Catriona Riddell, Shelly Rouse and Nicola Gooch at Soho Radio Studios. One topic, the hot topic of the past few weeks, dominated the conversation. “Labour pledges housebuilding drive on Grey Belt with ‘golden rules’ to boost public services, affordable homes and improve green spaces”, so announced a press release dated 19 April. Keir Starmer has today set out five ‘golden rules’ for Grey Belt housebuilding, pledging to deliver affordable homes, boost infrastructure and public services like schools and GPs, and imp...2024-05-0447 minThe TEC Talk Podcast: Presented by Natural Encounters, Inc.The TEC Talk Podcast: Presented by Natural Encounters, Inc.Episode 87: Who Cares, Just Reinforce It Already! (w/ Dr. Grey Stafford, Zoo Logic)Ari and Chris are super excited to be joined by animal trainer, author, and fellow podcaster, Dr. Grey Stafford! We sit down to chat about Grey's early days in the marine mammal world, his long-running (and HIGHLY recommended) podcast, Zoo Logic, the joy of playing host to what we consider the best discussion ever of the always-contentious topic of the LRS, and his passion for the role we can all play in shaping the future of our industry! To listen to all the great episodes of the Zoo Logic podcast, check out the show on Apple Podcasts...2021-12-091h 19Zoo-notableZoo-notableZoo-notable #15 (Part 2): Zoomility with Dr. Grey StaffordI had so much fun nerding out on animal behavior with our guest tonight that I'm splitting the Zoo-notable on his amazing book, Zoomility, into 2 parts. Here is part 2 where we continue our talk on how positive reinforcement empowers us and the animals and teaches us to never give up! Listen to Part 1 here: https://anchor.fm/pj-beaven/episodes/Zoo-notable-15--Zoomility-with-Dr--Grey-Stafford-Part-1-e13gs9c Learn more about Zoomility, Zoo Logic, and Dr. Grey Stafford's projects here: Website Zoo Logic Podcast Kong Zoo Check out some of these...2021-06-2832 minZoo LogicZoo LogicWhat Species Are Most Vulnerable to COVID-19?Researchers at UC Davis published a paper recently describing through computational methods the relative risk of COVID-19 infection to over 400 species examined. Nearly half of the species studied are listed as threatened or endangered. Some of the animals found to be most at risk were not too surprising, such as endangered Old World apes. Still others, particularly reptiles and birds, represent a lower risk. Our guests, Dr. Yvonne Nadler from the USDA funded ZAHP Fusion Center and Dr. Dominic Travis, University of Minnesota College of Veterinary Medicine discuss how this research will help the zoological and veterinary health community...2020-09-1039 minZoo LogicZoo LogicThe Future of Zoos and Aquariums (part 2)It's part two of our conversation about the future with zoo and aquarium thought leaders from the Denver Zoo, Indianapolis Zoo, Dolphin Discovery, and Karen Pryor Clicker Training. Coinciding with the news that at least 1 major aquarium has decided to close public operations temporarily to reassess its business model in a COVID-19 reality, our panel looks at revenue streams and the need for greater creativity going forward. They also stress the need for organizations to put trade association differences aside and work together, lest all facilities (and as a result, possibly animal welfare) suffer during these troubling public health...2020-09-0339 minZoo LogicZoo LogicThe Future of Zoos and Aquariums (part 1)Following our conversation with futurist Bob Johansen last week, we assembled a panel of zoo and aquarium thought leaders with diverse backgrounds, interests and organizations, to get their views on what the future may hold for zoological facilities and professionals. Topics include: sharing how they adapted their guest experience, infrastructure, and staffing roles to address the challenges presented by the COVID-19 pandemic upon reopening; the re-focus on smaller, personal interactions among animals, staff, and guests versus large audience events and attractions; and the implications for budgets and revenues now and forever. Denver Zoo Indianapolis Zoo2020-08-2735 minZoo LogicZoo LogicFull-Spectrum Thinking with Futurist Bob JohansenGiven the globally disruptive challenges presented by COVID-19, zoos, aquariums, and the conservation and research organizations they support are in serious financial jeopardy. So to help sort out a robust pathway forward, we sought the assistance of renowned futurist, Dr. Bob Johansen from the Institute for the Future. In his latest book, he describes the importance of a Full-Spectrum Thinking mindset to avoid the brain's tendency towards rigid categorical thinking. With the next decade expected to be even more chaotic than today such rigidity is not only outdated, it often leads to a false certainty and all too simplistic bi...2020-08-2056 minZoo LogicZoo LogicHow Do You Solve a Problem Like Hvaldimir? A Conversation with Lindsay RubincamMore than a year after his arrival in the waters of Norway, Hvaldimir, a trained beluga whale is surviving on his own while still seeking the company of his human family. Whether it's sleeping under maintenance boats at fish farms or engaging with people in crowded waterways, Hvaldimir may be living free in the open ocean but he's anything but wild. Marine mammal expert Lindsay Rubincam shares how a social media network tracking his whereabouts is helping a team of volunteers insure his future well being and informing Norway Fisheries. One thing is clear, Hvaldimir is touching...2020-08-131h 18Zoo LogicZoo LogicProactive Aggression Management Using Positive ReinforcementAnimal training experts Chuck Tompkins and Ted Turner return for a third installment on behavioral principles to discuss how operant conditioning using positive reinforcement in managed care can prevent and at minimum reduce the frequency and intensity of aggressive behaviors directed at other animals, caregivers, or the immediate environment. The goal is not to react to or try to suppress aggressive responses after they have happened as traditional punishment-based training often calls for, but to prevent the fear or frustration that leads to aggression before it ever occurs. Animal Care Software ZOOmility Zoo...2020-08-061h 34Zoo LogicZoo LogicRising Tide ConservationRenowned veterinary pathologist and researcher, Dr. Judy St. Leger is the president of Rising Tide Conservation. According to its website, Rising Tide Conservation is dedicated to developing and promoting aquaculture of marine ornamental fish species through the collaborative efforts of researchers, public aquaria, hobbyists, pet industry professionals, and conservation groups. Rising Tide Conservation facilitates sustainability in the aquarium industry by supporting marine ornamental fish aquaculture research in order to reduce the impacts of wild fish collection on fish populations and the coral reefs where they live. That Sounds Wild: Screech owl.  Frank Buck Zoo. Visit ou...2020-07-3034 minZoo LogicZoo LogicCorrecting the Narrative: what recent research actually teaches us about cetaceans in our care and in the wildThis special episode features a series of panel presentations based on recently published peer-reviewed papers about dolphin life expectancy, orca longevity, cetacean dive physiology, and two rebuttals of Marino et al 2019. Panelists Kelly Jaakkola, Kevin Willis, Andreas Fahlman, Heather Hill, Kathleen Dudzinski, & Jason Bruck present data, as well as, commentary on a case study example of a published paper on orca welfare that never should have cleared the peer-review process. Our panel of scientists clarify what we currently know and don't know about two popular species of marine mammals in human care and in the wild across a few...2020-07-231h 24Zoo LogicZoo LogicPacific Marine Mammal CenterFriend of the podcast, Dr. Hendrik Nollens describes his new role as VP of Conservation Medicine and Science at the Pacific Marine Mammal Center. In addition to responding to marine mammal stranding events along the entire coastline of Orange County, the PMMC has an ongoing role in public education, original wildlife research, as well as, assisting wild animals, particularly large cetaceans, entangled by ropes and other fishing debris. Dr. Nollens sees advancements in veterinary medicine and animal husbandry science developed in zoological facilities being increasingly utilized proactively to intervene with wild animals, including endangered species, at risk from injury...2020-07-1635 minZoo LogicZoo LogicA Conversation About Race and ZoosModern zoos and aquariums are agents for positive change. Through conservation, public education, in situ and ex situ research, and the display of amazing animals, zoological facilities inspire people of all ages to care about the well-being of wildlife and wild places. Still, it doesn't take one long to realize that these organizations so dedicated to preserving biodiversity are, in fact, not all that diverse in terms of their workforce, especially across animal-related departments and occupations. Given the ongoing historical protests for racial equality and justice, how are zoos and aquariums endeavoring to build more diverse teams? What roadblocks...2020-07-0947 minZoo LogicZoo LogicHumanism vs Behavior ManagementOur recent episode on the Least Reinforcing Scenario (#113) set download records and elicited so much feedback from listeners that we invited long time animal training experts Chuck Tompkins and Ted Turner back to discuss other controversial operant conditioning terms and topics. The Intermediate Bridge and End of Session signal are two such concepts about which few behavior training professionals are ambivalent. Chuck and Ted reflect on the validity of these concepts and warn trainers against letting humanistic interpretations of animal responses cloud their decision-making when it comes to behavior management using operant conditioning.  That Sounds Wild: African l...2020-07-021h 06Zoo LogicZoo LogicPittsburgh Zoo's Dr. Barbara BakerDr. Barbara Baker the president and CEO of the Pittsburgh Zoo and PPG Aquarium for thirty years spoke at the Alliance of Marine Mammal Parks and Aquariums annual meeting in February (just as  the COVID-19 pandemic was arriving in the United States) as part of a panel discussion made up of leaders of major zoological organizations from around the world. She also serves as the Board Chair for the trade association known as the Zoological Association of America. Dr. Baker shares her insights on Expedia's decision to support ticket sales to zoos and aquariums accredited by a few trade g...2020-06-2524 minZoo LogicZoo LogicBig Baby BelugaRecently, the Georgia Aquarium site of the Animal Planet show, The Aquarium, announced the birth of a large female beluga whale calf. Long time marine mammal husbandry and training professionals, Eric Gaglione and Dennis Christen describe the extensive planning and staff preparation that occurs in advance of any cetacean birth. Most important to the process is the extensive desensitization training based upon operant conditioning and positive reinforcement that the expectant mother receives from her caregivers. The goal is to prepare the team and the animals for any conceivable contingency prior to, during, and after parturition. Hear the latest on...2020-06-181h 00Zoo LogicZoo LogicThe Least Reinforcing ScenarioFew behavioral terms or concepts have engendered as much discussion, confusion, and heated debate among zoo professionals, behaviorists, and animal trainers over the past thirty years as the Least Reinforcing Scenario, known simply as LRS. Two of the original LRS architects, Chuck Tompkins and Ted Turner, describe the concept and the fundamental shift in behavioral psychology it represented by rejecting the status quo of traditional animal training that urged trainers to say "no" to animals when they make a mistake. Chuck and Ted clarify what the LRS is and is not, and why its development made trustful relationships and...2020-06-111h 04Zoo LogicZoo LogicUnderstanding Dolphin Pulmonary PhysiologyDr. Andreas Fahlman returns with doctoral candidate Alicia Espinosa to describe their research using tools and knowledge of human spirometry to better understand dolphin pulmonary function. Their goal is to establish a baseline of small cetacean pulmonary physiology measures for use in assessing wild and stranded dolphin respiratory health. Global Diving Research That Sounds Wild: Bottlenose Dolphin whistle Animal Care Software Peppermint Narwhal Zoo Logic2020-06-0433 minZoo LogicZoo LogicBroken Trust: When the Peer Review Process Breaks DownWith science proving to be an easy target these days for those looking to politicize it, what lasting harm is done to the public discourse and society's faith in anything the research community at large has to report on any subject, in those rare instances when unsubstantiated, misleading, or unethically crafted papers clear a respected journal's peer review process? Dr. Heather Hill, principle author of the recent rebuttal letter to one such concerning peer-reviewed paper joins researcher Jason Bruck, PhD to discuss the implications for us all. That Sounds Wild: Red Tailed Hawk.  Frank Buck Z...2020-05-281h 14Zoo LogicZoo LogicInto the COVID-19 Lion's Den: a physician's story of life and death at a NYC ICUWhen the plea for help went out across the US for medical professionals to lend their talents to the city hit hardest by the COVID-19 pandemic, like nearly 100 thousand of his colleagues, Ohio surgeon Dr. Ray Gagliardi answered the call. Dr. Ray shares his insights into the myriad of ways the deadly disease attacks the human body making it much more than just a respiratory illness.   That Sounds Wild: Great Horned Owls.  Frank Buck Zoo Animal care Software Peppermint Narwhal Zoo Logic2020-05-2147 minZoo LogicZoo LogicOkapi: Ghosts of the ForestsJohn Lukas is president of the Okapi Conservation Project which works in the Democratic Republic of Congo to study, protect and preserve the elusive large mammal known as okapi, nicknamed the ghost of the forest. Despite its large size for a forest-dwelling species, the okapi, a relative of the giraffe, was only recently described by western civilization in the early 1900's. Its great mass enables it to easily plow through dense jungle forests which serve to camouflage the species from predators like leopards as well as humans. That Sounds Wild: Flamingos  Frank Buck Zoo Animal Ca...2020-05-1453 minZoo LogicZoo LogicWhen Legislator Agendas Trump Animal WelfareThe Director of Research for the Dolphin Research Center, Dr. Kelly Jaakkola is back describing a recent Connecticut bill intended to ban all relevant activities surrounding cetaceans living in human care. The bill's timing coincides with a federal import permit application by the state's only marine mammal facility, the Mystic Aquarium, seeking to add a handful of beluga whales born at a crowded facility in Canada. Mystic Aquarium has a well regarded rescue and research program for animals in human care and the wild so the bill's intent seems more concerned with ending public display rather than ensuring the...2020-05-0736 minZoo LogicZoo LogicDeepwater Horizon: Still Deadly Ten Years LaterThe National Marine Mammal Foundation has been studying chronic effects from the Deepwater Horizon disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, one of the largest oil spills in history. The NMMF's Director of Medicine, Dr. Forrest Gomez describes some of the findings from field research and wild population assessments on cetacean health and reproduction, particularly for bottlenose dolphins. The data shows dolphins are still experiencing toxic effects more than 10 years later with some populations not expected to recover for decades. That Sounds Wild: Squirrel monkey. Frank Buck Zoo. Peppermint Narwhal Animal Care Software 2020-04-3049 minZoo LogicZoo LogicCatastrophic: Zoos and Aquariums Fight for Survival Against COVID-19San Antonio Zoo CEO Tim Morrow describes recent acquisitions, animal habitat improvements, and the William Smith Zoo School for preschool children at the historic zoo. In a story playing out at zoological facilities across the nation and world, Tim also describes the sudden financial and staffing challenges that the COVID-19 pandemic has presented to this non-profit facility that is entirely dependent upon earned revenues and donations to fund its operations. No facility, regardless of tax and ownership status or funding sources has been immune to the economic impact of the pandemic. Yet, despite these unprecedented professional and personal hurdles...2020-04-2336 minZoo LogicZoo LogicApe TreesWith the 50th anniversary of Earth Day, wildlife conservationist Julie Scardina introduces us to the work of Wild Earth Allies and its executive director, Katie Frohardt. WEA has conservation interests around the globe with a keen interest in Central Africa and the preservation of gorillas. With the aid of scientists experienced at successfully studying and conserving mountain gorillas from the brink of extinction a few decades ago to well over 1000 individuals today, WEA is working to preserve the endangered Grauer's gorilla.  Mitigating the threats to this lowland gorilla subspecies whose population is decreasing by 5% per year is made more d...2020-04-1646 minZoo LogicZoo LogicPreventing the Next Pandemic: A Humane Conversation About Our Social Contract with AnimalsAs the oldest animal welfare organization in the US, American Humane and its CEO Dr. Robin Ganzert work to improve welfare across the companion, military, farm, entertainment, and zoological animal world. As the SARS-CoV-2 spread continues to affect the lives of animals and people around the globe, American Humane is stepping up to provide online materials and support to organizations and animals in need. Dr. Ganzert discusses how the current pandemic is more evidence of how humans have violated the social contract we have with animals and that we must do better to share humane values and practices around...2020-04-0947 minZoo LogicZoo LogicThe Politics of SARS-CoV-2 Pandemic Modeling, Public Health, and ConservationUniversity of Minnesota researcher and former VP of Science and Conservation for Lincoln Park Zoo, Dominic Travis, DVM specializes in wildlife epidemiology. His primary area of interest is understanding the interface between humans, domestic animals and wildlife species, and how that interface affects our health, food safety, and conservation. How has our polarized political environment in an election year contributed to the public's confusion over the scientific method, as it pertains to the value of mathematical models, as government agencies scramble to use their evolving predictions to inform and communicate effective health policies addressing the global crisis? T...2020-04-0254 minZoo LogicZoo LogicGlobal Response of Zoos and Aquariums to the COVID-19 PandemicFollowing a personal message of unity to zoo fans and professionals everywhere from Jungle Jack Hanna, the CEO of the World Association of Zoos and Aquariums (WAZA) describes the impact of COVID-19 on its nearly 300 member facilities. As the global alliance of regional associations, national federations, zoos and aquariums, dedicated to the care and conservation of animals and their habitats around the world, WAZA is coordinating its messaging and resources with the latest guidelines from the World Health Organization as well as regional and national authorities. While many businesses may close during this crisis, zoological professionals continue...2020-03-2618 minZoo LogicZoo LogicPandemic: Balancing Animal Welfare with Public HealthAs the rest of the country became aware of the virus spreading in hard hit Washington state, the Seattle Aquarium was one of the first zoological facilities in the U.S. to announce it was closing to the public. Fortunately for the aquarium, their new Director of Life Sciences, Grant Abel, is all too familiar with dealing with regional pandemics from his previous posts in Asia. Grant describes the difficult decision process, the evolving plans, and the fiscal and operational challenges to ensuring the aquarium's collection of fish, marine mammals, birds, and staff members are well cared for as...2020-03-1929 minZoo LogicZoo LogicOverlooked Species: Wading in to Save Animals No One Cares AboutDirector of Conservation for San Antonio zoo, Dr. Dante' Fenolio, says zoos are unique in their ability to take funds designated by families for entertainment and repurpose them for conservation research. This is especially important for overlooked species like the reticulated flatwoods salamander, which his team successfully hatched recently for the first time ever, because zoos are willing to invest time, money, and expertise to preserve unknown, uncharismatic, and endangered species like these and other amphibians. He cautions that conservation biology can't be rushed as this project took eleven years to achieve this breeding success in part because of...2020-03-1235 minZoo LogicZoo LogicSpecial Delivery: Columbus Zoo's Historic Cheetah CubsAs a species, the odds of survival are stacked against cheetahs.  From habitat loss and fragmentation, high infant mortality rates, poaching for the pet trade, and conflicts with humans Cheetahs face a myriad of threats. The Columbus Zoo and Aquarium has been supporting cheetah conservation, reproductive research, and public education through its ambassador program for over 20 years. Recently they announced the first ever successful births of cubs conceived through in vitro fertilization and embryo transfer.  The emerging reproductive science, reward-based husbandry training, and trustful bond between animals and zookeepers may just offer a pathway forward to preserve this unique an...2020-03-0527 minZoo LogicZoo LogicKen Ramirez part 2: Animal Training, Transformation, and TrustAnimal trainer Ken Ramirez has worked with dozens of species living in zoos and the wild.  In part 2 of our conversation, Ken describes his years long effort to use behavioral science to teach a large herd of wild African elephants to avoid a centuries-old migratory route through a conflict zone.  It's a hopeful example of  the growing role for modern training methods in wildlife conservation and preservation. Plus, Ken has a new book unlike any he's written before entitled, The Eye of the Trainer: Animal Training, Transformation, and Trust. Clicker Training Animal Care Software Z...2020-02-2730 minZoo LogicZoo LogicKen Ramirez: Animal Training, Transformation, and TrustFor over 40 years, author, consultant, zoological manager, behaviorist, and teacher, Ken Ramirez has explored and observed the natural world with a keen eye for animal training. There are few wild and domestic species living in human care that haven't benefited from his work as a positive reinforcement-based animal trainer. His new book available at ClickerTraining is a series of essays entitled The Eye of the Trainer: Animal Training, Transformation, and Trust. His latest field work connects conservation with behavioral science. That Sounds Wild: Lyrebird Animal Care Software Peppermint Narwhal Zoo Logic...2020-02-2027 minZoo LogicZoo LogicOdysea Aquarium Conservation Expo part 2The Odysea Aquarium's annual and free Conservation Expo features many rescue, research, conservation and education focused organizations at work in the desert southwest and around the US.  We talk with the director of the Scottsdale Community College's Center for Native and Urban Wildlife about its community outreach mission.  Also, the Arizona Game and Fish Department operates several fish hatcheries to preserve endangered native species of fresh water fish and to support the sport fishing community. That Sounds Wild: Guinea Fowl. Frank Buck Zoo   Animal Care Software Peppermint Narwhal Zoo Log...2020-02-1318 minZoo LogicZoo LogicRemembering Dawn Brancheau: Dream BigFebruary 24th marks the 10-year anniversary of the tragic passing of marine mammal trainer, Dawn Brancheau. Her loss was felt not only by family and friends, but throughout the zoological community and the general public. We celebrate the life of Dawn, the passion she had for animals and training, and the work of the foundation created in her honor with people that knew her well: a close friend, a mentor and manager, a colleague, and a sibling. Plus, we try to assess where the zoological community is today following a decade of change, especially with regards to...2020-02-061h 23Zoo LogicZoo LogicOdysea Aquarium Conservation ExpoWe visited the Odysea Aquarium's third annual Conservation Expo featuring animal, research, higher education, and conservation related organizations working throughout the state of Arizona to preserve terrestrial and aquatic species and habitat at home and around the world. The free public event is part of the aquarium's education mission designed to increase awareness and support of nonprofit groups working in the community. Part 1 guests include Reid Park Zoo, Phoenix Zoo, and Arizona State University. That Sounds Wild: barn Owl.  Frank Buck Zoo. Animal Care Software Peppermint Narwhal Zoo Logic F...2020-01-3023 minZoo LogicZoo LogicConserving Rattlesnakes?Whether you are thrilled or terrified by them, people of all ages seem drawn to ectotherms like rattlesnakes. The Rattlesnake Conservancy works to change the public narrative about the value of these animals by educating communities, professionals, and first responders on how to safely handle and live alongside them. The conservancy also conducts and supports conservation research into various environmental and human caused threats to rattlesnake species survival. That Sounds Wild: Western Diamondback Rattlesnake Conservancy savethebuzztails.org Zoo Logic Podcast Animal Care Software Peppermint Narwhal  2020-01-2331 minZoo LogicZoo LogicInferno Down UnderThe historic wildfires underway across Australia threaten the existence of some of the most iconic species on earth. The fires have already consumed thousands of homes over a total area nearly equal to the size of the state of Indiana. Scientist estimate over 1 billion animals may have perished to date, including tens of thousands of individual animals from already threatened and endangered species such as the koala. Giving a firsthand account of the areas, species and critical habitats affected is Australian trainer, behavior consultant, and wildlife conservationist Jade Fountain. Also joining us is James Biggs...2020-01-1644 minZoo LogicZoo LogicZoo School SweetheartsConservation education has been a passion for Susan and David Kleven since they met on the campus of America's Teaching Zoo at Moorpark College. Upon graduation and with the help of family they launched Animal Edutainment based in Texas to help teach wildlife and conservation education to school children and the general public. After working side by side for several years, Sue accepted the role as director of the Frank Buck zoo and David launched Animal Care Software, while still overseeing a growing collection of animals for their educational outreach programs. Together they are involved with growing...2020-01-0943 minZoo LogicZoo LogicKONG ZOO: creating enrichment for all speciesHistorically, the availability of large zoo animal enrichment items that are safe and won't splinter, break teeth, or harm acrylic view panels has been limited to the creativity of zookeepers as they repurpose materials like tires, telephone poles, firehoses, and hard plastic barrels or gas tanks. Over the next few years, a new company spearheaded by a team led by the same creative mind that founded the KONG company, maker of companion animal toys and products using natural rubber, hopes to ensure that all species, even those as large as orcas and elephants, have access to engaging enrichment. Two...2020-01-0235 minZoo LogicZoo LogicModern Training at Medieval TimesMedieval Times is an international family dinner theatre experience featuring trained Andalusian horses and falcons. To lean more about how the animals and performers are trained and learn to work together, we talked with two animal professionals from the newest Medieval Times castle located in Arizona. According to the company's website, the guest experience is based upon authentic Medieval history and is the true story of a noble family with documentation dating back to the 11th Century. Medieval Times began with two dinner/ entertainment complexes located in Majorca and Benidorm, Spain. There are now ten Medieval Times’ Castles in Nor...2019-12-2629 minZoo LogicZoo LogicSteve MartinFor more than 30 years, Steve Martin has created complex and conservation minded free-flight bird shows for zoological facilities across the globe. He trains animals and zoo professionals with positive reinforcement and believes in preparing them for the chaos of the real world by not "training in a vacuum."  Steve believes in making one's own luck by taking chances, being willing to try something new, and embracing the value of making mistakes and learning from them. He recently was asked by the Association of Zoos and Aquariums (AZA) to develop new welfare standards for animal ambassador programs. According t...2019-12-1944 minZoo LogicZoo LogicZoo to YouZoo to You founder David Jackson describes being on the road with wild and endangered species and the process of reward-based desensitization training necessary to ensure great animal welfare for all their animal ambassadors. According to the Zoo to You website, their mission is "Giving a worldwide voice to wildlife by providing a permanent, loving home for displaced, abused, abandoned or permanently injured wild and exotic animals. Sharing these animal ambassadors through our Zoo to You outreach program helps educate school children and learners of all ages about conservation, connecting them to the wild world and inspiring them to pr...2019-12-1234 minZoo LogicZoo LogicDoing Right By WhalesSeaWorld's Dr. Hendrik Nollens discusses the company's recent funding announcements regarding efforts to save species like the endangered North Atlantic right whale from entanglements with fishing gear.  With only about 400 of these animals left, SeaWorld is teaming up with the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution to help engineers deploy and test the efficacy of new underwater buoy designs that will enable fishermen to locate and retrieve their traps while reducing the likelihood of whale entanglements. That Sounds Wild: Breeding African lions peppermint narwhal animal care software Zoo Logic Podcast FB i...2019-12-0531 minZoo LogicZoo LogicDave, The Garden GuySpecializing in organic and sustainable gardening and farming in the extreme climate conditions of the desert southwest over the past 30 years, Dave Owens, "The Garden Guy," is an author, television host, and entrepreneur. Originally from Kentucky, Dave recalls his earliest days as a young boy tending to his father's garden as his dad went off to serve three tours in Vietnam. He shares his journey from using synthetic fertilizers, pesticides and fungicides to the organic methods his grandfather used to farm and why we all need to think about ways to soften our impact on the environment and wildlife. 2019-11-2823 minZoo LogicZoo LogicThe Spy Whale Who Loved MeLast spring, a single male beluga whale showed up along the shores of Norway following boats and seeking attention and contact with humans. The international press dubbed him "spy whale," as he was clearly trained and likely had strayed from a secret naval program from nearby Russia. Serving as an information resource for authorities, experienced zoo professionals immediately volunteered their time and mobilized to assess and monitor the white whale nicknamed Hvaldimir. One of those volunteers is long time marine mammal trainer and zoological manger, Lindsay Rubincam. Lindsay shares her first hand experiences with Hvaldimir, the personal and professional...2019-11-2132 minZoo LogicZoo LogicCITES Secretary-GeneralAccording to CITES.org, the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora regulates international trade in over 36,000 species of plants and animals, including their products and derivatives, to ensure their survival in the wild with benefits for the livelihoods of local people and the global environment. The CITES permit system seeks to ensure that international trade in listed species is sustainable, legal and traceable. With 183 Parties, CITES remains one of the world's most powerful tools for wildlife conservation through the regulation of trade. (Though not without debate and controversy among competing member i...2019-11-1453 minZoo LogicZoo LogicLast Child in the Woods author, Richard LouvIn 2005, acclaimed nature journalist and author Richard Louv coined the expression, "Nature Deficit Disorder," in his best-selling book, Last Child in the Woods: Saving Our Children from Nature-Deficit Disorder. The book sparked an international movement and greater awareness about the growing lack of human connection to the natural world. He discusses NDD and his new book, Our Wild Calling: How connecting with animals can transform our lives-- and save theirs released this week by Algonquin. According to the book jacket, Our Wild Calling makes the case for protecting, promoting, and creating a sustainable and shared habitat for a...2019-11-071h 05Zoo LogicZoo LogicMystical BelugasFor more than 45 years, the Mystic Aquarium's Sea Research Foundation has worked to protect marine mammals. For example, full-time scientists conduct global research with beluga whales within a larger set of marine science research and educational programs. The need for ongoing basic research is urgent. A recent scientific report by the United Nations warns that more than one-third of all marine mammal species are now threatened with extinction. Belugas in some parts of the world, including Alaska’s Cook Inlet, are considered endangered or depleted.   To support current and future studies, Mystic Aquarium’s Sea Research Foundation has submitted a resear...2019-10-3150 minZoo LogicZoo LogicZoos Saving Trumpeter SwansZoos and aquariums are not just concerned with preserving species and habitat in far away locations. Many are conserving threatened and endangered native species including amphibians, reptiles, insects, plants, small mammals, and birds in their own back yard through cooperative breeding and reintroduction programs. Dr. Samantha Russak shares the story of how Southwick's Zoo is working with officials to help return once endangered trumpeter swans to their original home range.     Plus, That Sounds Wild: cheetah purr.  www.columbuszoo.org Southwick's zoo www.facebook.com/ZooLogicpodcast/ Animal Care Software h...2019-10-2425 minZoo LogicZoo LogicConservation and TourismWhere is the overlap between tourism and conservation? And what do well-intentioned travelers need to known and do to leave as light a footprint as possible wherever they may go to experience nature?  Safari tour operator Chris Liebenberg founder of Piper and Heath Travel shares his unique perspective on conservation and tourism in Africa having been raised in Namibia.    That Sounds Wild: Silvery Cheeked hornbill.  www.ColumbusZoo.org   PiperandHeath.com iReinforce.com animalcaresoftware.com peppermintnarwhal.com Zoo Logic Podcast      ...2019-10-1719 minZoo LogicZoo LogicEwaso Lions ProjectRecently, the Mission Wildlife organization (www.mission-wildlife.com) held a fundraiser for groups working to conserve species and habitat in Africa. One such organization is the Ewaso Lions Project (www.Ewasolions.org) based in Kenya's northern regions.  According to their website, "Ewaso Lions takes its name from the mighty Ewaso Nyiro River (also called the Ewaso Ng’iro) which starts on the slopes of Mt Kenya and snakes its way through Laikipia and Samburu. The Ewaso (pronounced 'eh-wah-so') serves as a lifeline for the people and wildlife in the area. Ewaso Lions is dedicated to conserving lions and other lar...2019-10-1021 minZoo LogicZoo LogicTHE Florida AquariumRecently, the Florida Aquarium in Tampa announced being the first facility to successfully induce spawning of endangered Atlantic pillar coral in human care. One day, scientists think this achievement may enable humans to restore reef systems like the one along the southeastern shores of Florida. President and CEO, Roger Germann describes the aquarium's plans for growth including the expansion of a 22-acre satellite facility used for recreation, education, conservation research, and rescue and rehabilitation for sea turtles. For the second year in a row, The Florida Aquarium has been nationally recognized as one of North America’s best aquariums, ta...2019-10-0339 minZoo LogicZoo LogicSeafood WatchIncreasingly, zoos and aquariums are being called upon to fund and develop science-based research and practical solutions to environmental problems like species extinction and dramatic declines in species abundance. For the past two decades one demonstrably successful consumer-facing program meeting the needs of commerce and conservation has been Monterey Bay Aquarium's Seafood Watch. What began as a temporary campaign with printed lists of sustainably sourced seafood dining options for the aquarium's visitors has grown into an international effort and mobile app supported by more than two dozen scientists and public engagement professionals. Karin Stratton, conservation partner liaison shares insights...2019-09-2632 minZoo LogicZoo LogicTell Me Something I Don't KnowThis week's Zoo Logic episode is a mash-up of researchers, trainers, and news items from around the zoo and aquarium world following the recent professional joint conference for the Association of Zoos and Aquariums (www.AZA.org) and the International Marine Animal Trainers' Association (www.IMATA.org) in New Orleans. Past guest Jeremy Hance, writer for (www.Mongabay.com) shares insights into a species few have ever heard of. And, working with another past guest, Dr Jason Bruck, Samantha Sheppard describes new research suggesting dolphins use urine tasting to identify others! Hear from zoo media personality Stephanie Arne (www.s...2019-09-1914 minZoo LogicZoo LogicThe Big "Bad" Wolf Needs our HelpDemonized for centuries in literature, pop culture, and most worrisome of all, in the execution of public policy, several canid species are on the edge of extinction. Ginny Busch, CEO of the Endangered Wolf Center describes their work and ongoing challenges to preserving species such as Mexican Gray Wolves, African painted Dogs, and the most endangered canid species of all, the Red Wolf.  The center not only breeds and helps introduce young wolves into the wild, it is partnering with federal, state and local agencies to listen to and educate communities about the importance of these predators to restoring a...2019-09-1246 minZoo LogicZoo LogicDeciphering Deep Diving DolphinsDr. Andreas Fahlman, senior researcher for the Oceanographic Foundation in Valencia Spain shares insights into the respiratory physiology and behavior of offshore and coastal bottlenose dolphins. In addition to significant size differences between these two distinct populations from the same species of dolphin, the larger offshore type has been observed routinely diving to depths of 1000m, whereas the much smaller near shore animals rarely venture beyond depths of 10m. His research to date suggests the diving reflex in marine mammals, a phenomena observed for decades, is actually far more complex than first described. Dr. Fahlman says the passion and...2019-09-051h 15Zoo LogicZoo LogicEvolution of the Orca ConservancyFounded in 1996 in hopes of reuniting one killer whale with her wild cousins, the Orca Conservancy today is focused on preserving the endangered population of Southern Resident Killer Whales (SRKW) that frequent the waters around Seattle and Vancouver part of the year. It's this steadfast mission to prevent the SRKW from extinction that put the Orca Conservancy at odds recently with a well-publicized plan by the Whale Sanctuary Project to build in SRKW waters, a permanent whale holding facility for orcas of mostly Icelandic descent that were born and currently reside in zoos and aquariums.  Orca Conservancy p...2019-08-291h 04Zoo LogicZoo LogicPhoenix Herpetological SocietyWe are onsite with the three founders of the Phoenix Herpetological Society to discuss their passion for rescuing animals in need, conserving endangered species, and educating the public about all kinds of ectotherms from cobras to crocodiles. PHS' mission is to "promote conservation and preservation of native and non-native reptiles through education, rehabilitation, rescue, and relocation." From its humble start, PHS now cares for over 1000 animals and boasts several firsts such as "Mr. Stubbs," an American alligator with the first ever prosthetic (tail) for a reptile. According to www.Phoenixherp.com, PHS was founded in 2001 by three...2019-08-2255 minZoo LogicZoo LogicZoos Saving Mexican Gray Wolves From ExtinctionWe return to the Phoenix Zoo to discuss their collaborative work to save another endangered species, the Mexican Gray Wolf, which as recently as the early 1970's came within a handful of remaining founder animals from being deliberately exterminated across the West and Mexico. Senior carnivore keeper, Carl Mohler describes how caring for a social group pf predators that may one day be introduced to the wild is very different from other species found in zoos and aquariums. The relationships of trust that naturally form between keepers and most zoo animals is not only discouraged, it can place the...2019-08-1529 minZoo LogicZoo LogicGayle Bass: Radio, TV and Animals, Oh My!Host of the viral videos television show Right This Minute (www.RightThisMinute.com), Gayle Bass reminisces about how her early career experiences such as an intern, a film critic, and a radio reporter led to her role as one of the original hosts of RTM, now starting its 9th season. As a huge fan of wild and domestic animals, and having met many animal ambassadors throughout her media career, Gayle shares some unique insights from years of scouring the Internet in search of the next video to go viral. Plus, she and Grey share memories of their earliest radio...2019-08-0835 minZoo LogicZoo LogicDeep Sea Explorer Dr. Sylvia EarleThe 1970's was a decade of unparalleled exploration far above and below the sea. From astronauts driving on the moon and unmanned probes collecting data on the outer planets to piercing the deepest oceans in new submersibles, scientists and engineers achieved some of the greatest feats in human history. One such pioneer, Dr. Sylvia Earle is an ocean scientist and engineer, policymaker and conservationist, and best of all, a record-setting deep sea explorer  whose work over 60 years places her in the company of Cook, Piccard, Cousteau, Ballard, and more recently, Cameron. Dr Earle has spent thousands of hou...2019-08-011h 18Zoo LogicZoo LogicSea of Shadows DocumentaryAs part of its work to support research and conservation of marine mammals, the National Marine Mammal Foundation (www.NMMF.org) has been working with many diverse stakeholders to study, preserve, and increase awareness of the world's most endangered marine mammal, an elusive porpoise found only in the far northern Gulf of California known as the vaquita. Their story is featured in a new documentary Sea Of Shadows (www.SeaofShadows.film) by executive producer,  Leonardo DiCaprio (www.LeonardoDiCaprio.com) and www.NatGeo.com documentary films. The documentary highlights the inextricable link for survival that human activities have for...2019-07-2527 minZoo LogicZoo LogicHealth, Behavior, Longevity, or Feelings? How Should We Measure Animal Welfare?Animal welfare science is a relatively new discipline that has generated some degree of debate among scientists, policymakers, animal professionals, animal rights activists, and the public. Even the meaning of the term animal welfare has been cause for scientific and public debate in part because the conversation often includes qualities such as emotions normally associated with humans being applied to animals. Dr. Isabella Clegg shares her work assessing the welfare of dolphins living in human care, describes the difficulty that language can present when discussing animal welfare, and explains why a simple experiment can demonstrate whether an animal can b...2019-07-1841 minZoo LogicZoo LogicDropping Like Flies: can the world survive without insects?In addition to the dramatic declines in charismatic species most people are aware of, research over the past few years suggests we are facing a potential extinction event for insects. This week's episode features  www.mongabay.com frequent contributor, environmental writer Jeremy Hance, to discuss his recent 4-part series on the insect extinction situation based on interviews he's conducted with dozen's of entomologists from around the globe. Jeremy discusses potential root causes such as over use of pesticides, climate change, and human over-population. As we continue to wrestle with the substantial loss of higher order species over the past 50 y...2019-07-1144 minZoo LogicZoo LogicAmazon River Dolphin ConservationFresh water dolphins like the Amazon River Dolphin face a myriad of challenges including human encroachment and habitat loss, pollution, the damming of river systems, and poaching. The Amazon River Dolphin Conservation Foundation www.ARDCF.org supports local efforts to protect a storied species and its rainforest ecosystem. ARDCF founder and director, Suzanne Smith discusses what she describes as healthy, natural interactions between dolphins and people that protect both animals and people, sustain local culture, and transform visitors to ardent Amazon conservationists. These interactions represent a small scale effort to preserve the Amazon River dolphin through the u...2019-07-0433 minZoo LogicZoo LogicVeterinary Suicide PreventionIn 2014, the training community lost a well-known veterinarian and behavioral consultant, lecturer, author and colleague to suicide. Many were surprised by the loss of someone so successful at her craft and popular among her clients and fans to learn about the high rate of suicide among veterinary professionals. A recent report posted at AAHA.org found "U.S. veterinarians at greater risk for mental illness, suicidal thoughts, and depressive episodes than the general population." Jenifer Chatfield, DVM, DACZM and Christine Royal, DVM discuss the veterinary community and companies such as Merck Animal Health's endeavors to assess the mental wellness o...2019-06-2745 minZoo LogicZoo LogicOh Canada! Zoos and aquariums make conservation field research possibleAn all star panel of Zoo Logic alumni discusses current wildlife news stories including why the misguided and unscientific cetacean ban recently passed by Canada's parliament will have a chilling effect on conservation research. Researchers Dr. Kelly Jaakkola and Dr. Jason Bruck join Killing Keiko author and wildlife advocate, Mark Simmons to describe some of the negative implications for wildlife conservation, public education, field research, and policymaking everywhere, not just in Canada. The panel examines the critical role zoological facilities play in conducting important research and developing technology and methods necessary for species conservation that would simply...2019-06-201h 05Zoo LogicZoo LogicAmerican Association of Zoo KeepersFor more than 50 years, the American Association of Zoo Keepers has been pursuing excellence in animal care, sharing best practices, providing professional development workshops and conferences, and raising serious dollars for the support of conservation organizations in the field helping to preserve endangered species like rhinos and cheetahs. AAZK members have also planted over 100k trees! AAZK's individual members cover the range of zoological expertise from keepers to aquarists, trainers to vet techs, while covering every species in-between. Through the contributions of over 100 local chapters across the U.S and Canada, AAZK has raised more than $7M from its...2019-06-1321 minZoo LogicZoo LogicThe Bear NonnecessitiesAsiatic and Sun bear products are traded and consumed illegally throughout SE Asia. The rampant use of bear parts like bile as part of traditional medicine has severely impacted bear populations. While bear farms have been prohibited by some countries, it remains legal to possess bears and thus, the farming for bile largely continues.  San Diego Zoo Global's Institute for Conservation Research scientist, Dr. Elizabeth Davis uses social science methods to uncover the motivation behind bear product use and is using that information to develop strategies designed to conserve bear populations by changing consumer behavior. She and her colleagues are...2019-06-0635 minZoo LogicZoo LogicIn The Navy: the story of the US marine mammal programShrouded in secrecy until it was declassified in the 1990's, the U.S. Navy Marine Mammal Program continues its mission which began nearly 60 years ago to protect service men and women at home and abroad. Dr. Mark Xitco, researcher and Director of the NMMP discusses the rich history of the program, the animal training and welfare focus in use today, the hundreds of publicly available peer-reviewed research papers on marine mammal behavior and physiology the program has produced, and the important recovery and security missions that teams of California sea lions, bottlenose dolphins, and their human trainers are ready...2019-05-3036 minZoo LogicZoo LogicAmerican Humane: ensuring the safety, welfare and well-being of 1 billion animalsAmerican Humane is the oldest organization in the US dedicated to "promoting the welfare and safety of animals and strengthening the bond between animals and people." For more than one hundred years, American Humane has operated wherever animals are in need of rescue, shelter, protection or security. President and CEO, Dr. Robin Ganzert describes the various programs in place to achieve its mission today including working to reunite military dogs wth their human handlers once their service is complete.  In addition, American Humane achieves its mission through a variety of other programs including their well known “No Ani...2019-05-2347 minZoo LogicZoo LogicIllegal Wildlife TraffickingAccording to the USFWS, illegal and unsustainable trade in wildlife and plants is a multibillion dollar industry that is having a devastating impact on thousands of species globally. Former Scottish police detective and law enforcement expert, author, and lecturer John Sellar spent 14 years working for CITES where he became Chief of Enforcement and conducted hundreds of missions to more than 60 countries to assess enforcement and develop strategies to combat wildlife crime. His book, ‘The UN’s Lone Ranger: Combating International Wildlife Crime’, was published in January 2014. In recognition of his UN service, in 2013 he was appointed by the Queen as an O...2019-05-1656 minZoo LogicZoo LogicElephant in the CapitolAnimal law expert and attorney Michelle Pardo returns to Zoo Logic to describe some of the recent and ongoing legislative efforts animal rights organizations are pushing at the local, state, and federal levels. What lessons can we learn about how the legislative process is being used to promote an extreme animal rights agenda, not shared by most people? Why is it so important for animal professionals, zoo and aquarium fans, and taxpayers to pay attention to legislative bills with reasonable sounding titles, especially when those same stakeholders are purposefully left out of the deliberative and amendment process by those...2019-05-0939 minZoo LogicZoo LogicGlobal perspectives on zoo animal training and welfare with IMATA's Billy HurleyExecutive Director of the International Marine Animal Trainers' Association, Billy Hurley joins Dr. Grey Stafford, former president of www.IMATA.org following their three-day training seminar held at Osaka ECO college for students and zoo professionals. Billy discusses cultural differences and similarities, as well as, training challenges and improved welfare opportunities for zoo and training professionals from his work in Japan and other regions of Asia. Beyond its original, near 50-year old core mission to promote modern methods of animal training using positive reinforcement for all species, especially marine mammals, what does he think the future role of IMATA...2018-11-0852 minZoo LogicZoo LogicWhat [zoos] got here is failure to communicateOn location at the International Marine Animal Trainers' Association annual conference hosted by Zoomarine in Algarve, Portugal, Dr. Grey Stafford talks with Dr. Jo Fava, marine mammal ophthalmologist, about the importance of certain supplements in zoological diets. Specifically, she describes her interest in what is known and yet to be discovered about the role of carotenoids like lutein on pinniped and cetacean vision. Also featured is Élio Vicente, Director of External Affairs sharing his thoughts on the decades of contributions to marine mammal husbandry, veterinary medicine, public education, and display by his mentor and Zoomarine founder, Mr. P...2018-10-2552 minAnimal Magnetism with Carolyn HennesyAnimal Magnetism with Carolyn HennesyBrad Andrews and Dr. Grey StaffordThis episode touches on the reality of the conservation movement with thought provoking dialogue with our special guest Brad Andrews and our co-host, Dr. Grey Stafford.2018-10-0655 minZoo LogicZoo LogicFires, Smoke, and Bears, Oh MySanta Barbara Zoo's Dr. Julie Barnes joins Zoo Logic's Dr. Grey Stafford to discuss the zoo team's evacuation response to 2017's record-breaking Thomas fire. From evacuating every creature to mobilizing a defensive position within a zoo to protect large, dangerous and not easily relocated animals like elephants and predators, every wildfire is different. Increasingly, zoos and aquariums must adapt and prepare for a variety of crisis situations including having little to no warning of unfolding disasters. Even as zoos become more involved with researching and preserving local threatened and endangered species and habitat, the impact of these intense fires...2018-09-0635 minZoo LogicZoo LogicGood Animal Welfare: do we know it when we see it?What is good animal welfare and how do we measure it? Sabrina Brando, Animal Welfare Coordinator for the World Association of Zoos & Aquariums, talks with Zoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford about WAZA's work to increase collaboration among animal facilities and professionals to improve the lives of all animals across the globe.  Also, a breaking Zoos News extended update with Marine Mammal veterinarian, Dr. Lydia Staggs on the Red Tide crisis along SW Florida's coastline harming thousands of animals including endangered turtles, manatees, and dolphins and what marine mammal professionals at SeaWorld and elsewhere are doing to help...2018-08-2338 minZoo LogicZoo LogicKong is King of the Animal Training WorldHow did an old part from a VW bus and a rock chewing German Shepherd dog named Fritz lead to the most recognizable pet toy on earth? Zoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford asks Kong Company cofounder, Joe Markham and lead behavior and training specialist, Mark Hines about the history of the classic dog toy that's still made in the USA, and how it has helped solve problems for animals and people for more than 40 years. Hear how Kong's unique design and quality construction continues to find new behavior training and enrichment applications with police and military canines, zoo...2018-08-1643 minZoo LogicZoo LogicAmerica's oldest college zookeeping program: EATM at MoorparkLong time Moorpark College professor Gary Wilson joins Zoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford to discuss the Exotic Animal Training and Management program, America's oldest professional zookeeping academic curriculum. Gary describes the early history of EATM at Moorpark first as a student and now as a long serving professor. Students develop advanced skills and gain practical experience  learning and working at a functioning public zoo with about 130 animals. Gary and Grey discuss the evolution of zookeeping as a multidisciplinary and science-based career that is increasingly reliant on applied animal training principles. Plus the latest Zoos News, an a...2018-08-0931 minZoo LogicZoo LogicElephant in the Courtroom: defending against activist threatsAnimal Law attorney Michelle Pardo joins host Dr. Grey Stafford to discuss legal challenges by animal rights groups using landmark laws such as the ESA, MMPA, and AWA to attack, not just zoos, but all domestic, pet, and wild animal activities, agriculture, and stakeholders. She describes important court rulings like PeTA's defeat in the "monkey selfie" case, the multimillion dollar settlement activist groups had to pay Ringling's parent company, and the evolving litigation strategies of zoo opponents using consumer protection statutes. The implications for animal professionals and zoo fans are scary!   Plus the latest Zoos News, a new...2018-08-0247 minZoo LogicZoo LogicZoos and researchers joining forces to preserve NatureDr. Jason Bruck joins Zoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford to talk about the increasingly important collaborative role between scientists and zoological facilities in order to preserve wild species. Jason describes his research on how complex social systems in cetaceans, primates and other vertebrates drive the evolution of complex learning and memory skills. They also discuss the role of a researcher and that of a paid lobbyist to answer whether a scientist can or should publish scientific papers at the same time he or she is lobbying on behalf of a client or issue.   Plus the latest Zo...2018-07-2640 minZoo LogicZoo Logic"Don't Be Shy," the legacy of the panda-looking porpoiseNOAA Fisheries scientist, Dr. Barbara Taylor, joins Zoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford to discuss the progress of women in science, her field work to help endangered marine mammals like the Bowhead whale rebound in numbers, and the recent efforts through vaquitaCPR.org to save the nearly extinct vaquita porpoise. While the fate of the vaquita may be sealed, the cooperative model and painful lessons learned over the past few years by scientists, marine mammal veterinarians, animal trainers and zoological professionals, governments, animal activists, and related conservation organizations to act early and boldly may just save other wild marine...2018-07-1948 minZoo LogicZoo LogicOur time is now!Zoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford talks with Doug Cress, Chief Executive Officer of the World Association of Zoos and Aquariums. With nearly 400 facilities and regional associations, WAZA members wield great influence with 700M visitors per year. As the new CEO, Doug describes changes to WAZA leadership, direction, and plans for growth in membership as a more balanced and representative global organization. We also get WAZA's bold take on recent news that mega food producer, Nestle, has been expelled from the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO) for failing to meet membership requirements designed to preserve rainforest habitat and...2018-07-1241 minZoo LogicZoo LogicLeaving behind a Legacy of Kindness to AnimalsAnimal training consultant, Barbara Heidenreich, talks with Zoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford. Barbara specializes in avian, exotics and zoo animal training. She lectures and consults worldwide working with zoos, universities, veterinary professionals, pet owners and conservation projects. She has worked with over 80 facilities in over 20 countries. She is an adjunct clinical instructor at Texas A & M University. Much of her work focuses on training animals with positive reinforcement to cooperate in medical care, solving complex behavior problems, making day to day care easier and developing animal caregivers' training skills.  Plus the latest Zoos News and an all n...2018-07-0530 minZoo LogicZoo LogicHow to become an animal trainerTrainer, media personality, and author of the book, Wear a Wetsuit to Work, Kyle Kittleson talks with Zoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford about his journey from growing up in the desert to successfully becoming a marine mammal trainer. Kyle's journey prompted him to write a helpful how-to guide for those aspiring to become marine mammal trainers in a highly competitive field. Plus the latest Zoos News, a legislative update from whyanimalsdothething.com’s Rachel Garner, and an all new That Sounds Wild.2018-06-2833 minZoo LogicZoo LogicNo retirement for this animal ambassadorZoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford talks with Wildlife Heroes author, media personality, and retired SeaWorld and Busch Gardens animal ambassador, Julie Scardina and her continued work with several conservation groups around the world. Seemingly busier than before retirement, in addition to live audience and media appearances, Julie is a member of several boards including the SeaWorld-Busch Gardens Conservation Fund, which means evaluating hundreds of worthy funding proposals each year. At a critical time when habitats and animal populations are shrinking, she describes her work with zoos and wildlife organizations to help mentor young zoological professionals through the Emerging...2018-06-2131 minZoo LogicZoo LogicNo Hollywood ending for the gentle Killer Whale starZoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford talks with Mark Simmons, author of Killing Keiko, the true story of Free Willy's return to the wild. As the behaviorist tasked with preparing Keiko mentally, physically, and behaviorally for possible release to the waters off Iceland, Mark describes firsthand why this gentle orca was never a good candidate for return and how those behind the project sealed his fate by ignoring the law and the best welfare interests of Keiko in favor of media attention and marketing. Abandoned by the only family he knew, humans, Keiko's sad and tragic end provides important...2018-06-1453 minZoo LogicZoo LogicJungle Jack Hanna, animal adventurer and Emmy Award winning hostJungle Jack Hanna, Emmy Award winning host of Into the Wild joins Zoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford to talk about his love for animals and the important role of zoos and aquariums as "arks" to save wildlife and wild places. From his humble beginnings cleaning cages as a kid, Jack describes his 40-year zoo career and the tremendous growth of the Columbus Zoo and Aquarium, the adventures of filming all over the globe, and his focus on "filming with respect."   Plus the latest Zoos News, a new Ms Mallory Minute with national spokesperson Mallory Lindsay of M...2018-06-0736 minZoo LogicZoo LogicSaving Rhinos from extinctionZoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford talks with Dr. Susie Ellis, Executive Director of the International Rhino Foundation (Rhinos.org) about the status of rhinos in Indonesia and Africa. For 25-years the IRF has been supporting research, education, and on the ground protection for the world’s remaining species of rhinos. Susie describes some of the challenges the IRF team faces to prevent rhino extinction due to habitat loss, human encroachment, and record levels of poaching. Plus the latest Zoos News, a legislative update on Animal Rights Groups growing use of the ESA to further their anti-zoo ag...2018-05-3124 minZoo LogicZoo LogicElephant training and welfare expert, Erin IvoryZoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford talks with elephant trainer, international consultant and animal welfare advocate, Erin Ivory about her work since leading the effort to bring Mila, New Zealand's lone elephant to the U.S. to live out her days with other elephants at the San Diego Zoo. Erin discusses her work with SE Asia zoos and elephant camps to improve positive reinforcement-based training and expand the use of enrichment. According to Erin, sometimes the biggest impediment to achieving better animal welfare is convincing zoo directors of the critical need for using enrichment and reward-based training to improve t...2018-05-2425 minZoo LogicZoo LogicUsing training principles first developed with dolphins to save vanishing speciesZoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford talks with long time marine mammal, pet, and wild animal training expert, Ken Ramirez, about the growing importance of science-based behavioral management for preserving wild populations of animals. Ken recalls his efforts to encourage primates through operant conditioning to use their natural distress call to alert nearby park rangers to the presence of poachers. He also describes his successful efforts to mitigate human - polar bear conflicts in the arctic. And, after an attack by poachers that left he and some of his team critically injured last year, Ken tells of his renewed...2018-05-1736 minZoo LogicZoo LogicDolphin cognition and how scientists describe animal intelligenceZoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford talks with Dr. Kelly Jaakkola, the Director of Research for the Dolphin Research Center on dolphin cognition and how scientists describe animal intelligence. Kelly and Grey discuss how the public narrative and widespread misperceptions about dolphins and orcas affect public attitudes of these animals living in the wild and those living in human care. Plus the latest Zoos News and an all new That Sounds Wild.2018-05-1718 minZoo LogicZoo LogicCelebrity animal activist to zoo advocate: a conversation with Carolyn HennesyZoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford talks with Emmy Award winning actor, best selling author, and zoo animal advocate, Carolyn Hennesy on the difference between advocacy and activism, and why the difference matters. Fans of Carolyn from her work on General Hospital, True Blood, Jesse and more will enjoy her candor describing her own personal journey from activist to vocal zoo advocate. Plus the latest Zoos News, a legislative update on the progress of the Big Cat Public Safety Act by whyanimalsdothething.com's Rachel Garner, and an all new That Sounds Wild.2018-05-1723 minZoo LogicZoo LogicThe important role of science in today's modern zoological facilitiesZoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford talks with Dr. Kelly Jaakkola, the Director of Research for the Dolphin Research Center on the importance of science in the debate over whether animals like dolphins should be kept in human care. Kelly and Grey discuss how the public narrative and widespread misperceptions about dolphins and orcas affect public attitudes of these animals living in the wild versus those living in human care. Plus the latest Zoos News, an all new That Sounds Wild, and a legislative update by whyanimalsdothething.com's Rachel Garner explaining why it is illegal for carnivores to...2018-05-1722 minZoo LogicZoo LogicActor Carolyn Hennesy shares her experiences with elephants from SE Asia to the LA ZooZoo Logic host Dr. Grey Stafford talks with Emmy Award winning actor, best selling author, and zoo animal advocate, Carolyn Hennesy on her experiences with elephants in SE Asia. Fans of Carolyn from her work on General Hospital, True Blood, Jesse and more will enjoy her candor describing her own personal journey from activist to vocal zoo advocate. Plus the latest Zoos News, an update on efforts to remove Los Angeles Zoo's Billy the elephant to a sanctuary, and an all new That Sounds Wild.2018-05-1625 min