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Tuesday HometimeSyrian minorities groups' nosediving quality of life with HTS | Unpacking Cambodia-Thailand conflicts | Prime Minister Albanese on Palestine | Situation in Palestine from peace activist | Sustainable energy futureDr Tim Anderson explains how the lives of ethnic and religious minorities have changed for the worse under the new Islamist regime in Syria, Emeritus Professor Damien Kingsbury and reasons for the ongoing conflicts between Cambodia and Thailand, Dr Alison Broinowski (AWPR) talking about her work in the rain 2 Sundays ago and where the Albanese government is going with Palestine, Associate Professor Tilman Ruff AO, board member of the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear weapons talking about his life long quest to bring an end to nuclear weapons, US peace activist Kathy Kelly with some thoughts on the situation in Palest...
2025-08-1200 minTuesday HometimeAustralians for Humanity to speak about the situation in Gaza | Dr Sasha Gillie-Lekakis speaks to his PHD and plans for the future | Analysis of Sept 5 Bougainville elections | Transition to sustainable energy Pt. 1 | UN Palestine recognition processHis Week That Was – Kevin Healy, Report back from Emeritus Professor Stuart Rees travelled to Canberra with fellow members of Australians for Humanity to speak with Labor, Greens and Teal politicians about the situation in Gaza, Dr Sasha Gillies-Lekakis speaks about his diverse family backgrounds, his years of study and research to reach his PHD and plans for the future, Elections scheduled for Bougainville on 5 September - Activist Vikki John analyses the prospects for some of the candidates standing for President and parliament and what they would bring to the leadership of the country, Part 1 of an interview with Dr Mark Diese...
2025-08-0500 min
The Baseload PodcastThe Baseload Podcast Episode 31Welcome to the first episode for 2025.00:00 Intro04:43 Diesendorf vs reality10:21 Aidan’s monologues, Friendly Jordies and Punters Politics43:33 Senator Tim Ayres vs goat65:22 Saul KavonicBen with Cameron Murray https://www.fresheconomicthinking.com/p/fet-48-the-cheap-renewables-gridDiesendorf with Cameron Murray https://www.fresheconomicthinking.com/p/fet-50-mark-diesendorf-on-why-a-renewablesAidan’s YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@miltechntac5507Feedback: thebaseloadpodcast@gmail.com
2025-03-022h 00
Fresh Economic ThinkingFET #50: Mark Diesendorf on why a renewables grid is economicalA few weeks back, I had engineer Ben Beattie on the podcast to explain some of the unappreciated costs of transitioning to a renewable electricity grid. Before this, Aidan Morrison had explained how many of the costs required to deal with variation in when and where energy is produced from wind and solar were excluded from the (in)famous GenCost report from the CSIRO. Today, Professor Mark Diesendorf, who has studied the electricity grid and energy markets for many decades, provides the counterargument to these claims and makes the case that renewables will be cheaper...
2025-02-101h 42
RadioMMT#044: The Luigi Mangione AlternativeWorried about the multiple crises we are living through? Housing, cost of living, inequality, poverty, food waste, species extinction, floods, bushfires... People smarter than us know how we can de-grow towards a sustainable, circular economy. And we will be much happier and healthier as a result!We hear from some of those smart people -- Dr Mark Diesendorf, Dr Marilyn Waring, and Dr Steven Hail -- in an excerpt from a podcast called The Sustainable Hour, hosted by Mik Aidt. Anne agrees it is all soooo doable, and Kev gives us a dose of reality. Show Notes Sustainability scientists’ critique of n...
2024-12-2700 min
The Sustainable HourThe path to a green economyTransforming the economic system to protect both nature and ourselves. Podcast episode with Dr Mark Diesendorf, Dr Geoff Davies, Dr Marilyn Waring and Dr Steven Hail.
2024-12-1400 min
Climate ConversationsClimate News: Carl Sagan warned us in 1985 about the perils of climate changeCarl Sagan (pictured) testified before Congress in 1985 about the perils of climate change - "Carl Sagan testifying before Congress in 1985 on climate change";
Here's the chance to listen early to the latest episode of "The Climate Revolution series coming up, with Dr Mark Diesendorf and three economists."
"Peter Dutton’s bid to politicise top science agency is ‘absurd’, former CSIRO energy director says";
"Three-Quarters of Earth’s Land Got Drier in Recent Decades, U.N. Says";
"Thousands without power as Santa Ana winds bring increased fire risk for Southern California";
"Clima...
2024-12-1337 min
Fuzzy Logic Science ShowSustainability: deep problem, shallow solutionsWhat does 'sustainability' really mean and how do we get there?
This radio documentary features some of Australia's most eminent thinkers. A wide ranging analysis digs into the fundamental causes of our predicament, based on interviews I recorded for the book with Stephen Williams Sustainability and the New Economics and The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation co-authored with Mark Diesendorf.
This is a re-podcast from the Post Growth Australia Podcast https://pgap.fireside.fm/7rethinksustain
• Prof David Lindenmayer
• Prof Will Steffen
• Prof Clive Hamilton
• Dr Kerryn Higgs
• Prof Philip Lawn
• Dr Mark Diesendorf
• Prof Steve Keen
•...
2024-12-1057 min
Post-Growth Australia PodcastPGAP presents Rethinking Sustainability Radio DocumentaryWelcome back to a brand-new Season Seven of Post Growth Australia Podcast!
As our world teeters on the edge of an increasingly perilous environmental future—extending beyond climate change—we must ask: what does true sustainability entail? How far are we from it, what are the root causes of our current trajectory, and what paths could lead us there?
Rod Taylor (author, columnist, radio host) asks these very questions to eleven esteemed Australian scientists and thinkers in a brand-new radio documentary. PGAP is proud to be the first platform to share this thought-provoking documentary, which expl...
2024-11-1757 min
UNSW Centre for IdeasPreppers Episode 2: The End of the World As We Know ItThe Earth is cracking under the weight of our expectations, with growth held up as the economic north star. Meanwhile, wildlife populations are collapsing, the ocean is acidifying, and carbon emissions are still increasing. Despite everything we know about what’s wrong and what to do about it, we cling to our current way of life. Civilizations have collapsed before. Could it be happening again? And if it is, what can we be doing to prepare for it? This episode features: Richard Kingsford – Professor of Ecology and Director of the Centre for Ecosystem Science, UNSW...
2024-08-2433 minFuzzy Logic Science ShowThe Path to a Sustainable Civilisation.How far off 'sustainability' are we today? How did we get here, and where do we go next? These are questions tackled by Rod Taylor at a U3A event in June.
This wide ranging talk is based on the book co-authored with Mark Diesendorf, The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation.
Other links:
Sustainable Population Australia https://population.org.au
Steady State ACT https://steadystateact.org
Touching the Void https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHYwxoYsK0A&ab_channel=WackyWanderlust
2024-07-0448 min
Climate ConversationsSwanpool Environmental Film Festival: Finding a path to a sustainable future; Finding the Money; And understanding the 'Undercurrents'The June 15 Swanpool Environmental Film Festival was in equal portions depressing and uplifting - the latter arising from the fact that the Swanpool theatre was full of people eager to understand what is ahead for humanity and how best they could contribute to decisions ensuring the correct path was chosen.
The eight-hour festival included the screening of three movies - "The New Corporation", "Finding the Money", and "Undercurrents" by Margot Nash.
An intriguing, and almost laughable aspect of the Finding the Money movie was the interview with Jared Bernstein, the Chair of America's Council of...
2024-06-1847 min
Climate ConversationsEnvironmental Film Festival: Renewable energy guru Dr Mark Diesendorf declares climate change an existential threat to civilisationDr Mark Diesendorf (pictured) delivered a powerful and relevant address at the Saturday, June 15, Swanpool Environmental Film Festival.
Dr Diesendorf is an associate professor from the University of New South Wales and is the co-author of "The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation".
During his presentation, Dr Diesendorf pointed to the "Australian Conversation Foundation" and the "Australian Democracy Network" as groups that could help to bring some balance into society and so slow the advance of the climate crisis.
2024-06-1636 min
The MMT Podcast with Patricia Pino & Christian ReillyMark Diesendorf: The Path To An Ecologically Just CivilisationChristian talks to Mark Diesendorf, a physicist and professor in the Environment & Society Group at the University of New South Wales, about the economics underpinning his latest book, “The Path To An Ecologically Just Civilisation”. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/57542767 LIVE EVENTS! A pres...
2024-01-101h 13Fuzzy Logic Science ShowRethinking Sustainability, Adelaide
The word "sustainability" has become cliché, loaded with myths, half-truths and outright lies that try to convince us that a few tweaks to ‘business as usual’ will be enough.
What then, does ‘sustainability’ really mean? A fundamental problem requires fundamental solutions - yet these are often completely ignored.
In this talk at the Conservation Council, sponsored by Sustainable Population Australia, Rod Taylor digs into the themes of the in The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation co-authored with Mark Diesendorf.
2023-11-0159 min
Climate ConversationsClimate News: This was 2006: 'Greatest environmental challenge facing the planet' - the Late U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein; Degrowth on the Village GreenDianne Feinstein (pictured), the late U.S. Senator, appeared at the Commonwealth Club in 2006 to explain the realities of the climate crisis.
"Degrowth Spring Festival";
"Dr Mark Diesendorf discusses planned degrowth";
"Talking about his new book - Mark Diesendorf";
"An accidental recording from the Degrowth Spring Festival - 'Sustain - the Australian Food Network'";
"Climate Change Is Devastating Puerto Rico. Women Environmentalists Are Fighting Back";
"Homes flood, flights cancelled as wild weather batters SE Australia";
"Why the ‘drug dealers defence’ doesn’t work for exporting coal...
2023-10-0926 min
Climate Action ShowMark Diesendorf ; SUSTAINABLE CIVILISATIONCLIMATE ACTION SHOWOCTOBER 9th 2023Mark Diesendorf : SUSTAINABLE CIVILISATION As the world’s ecosystem and climate is collapsing around us, due to humanity’s uncontrolled carbon emissions, is a transition to a civilisation that is sustainable, socially just, healthy and less militarised even possible? Associate professor Mark Diesendorf and science journalist Rod Taylor think so, and they have recently published a book about how we will do it: ‘The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation’.In this podcast interview courtesy of journalist Mik Aidt, Mark Diesendorf describes what is wrong with our current political system, and then he makes a coherent argument for how it c...
2023-10-0900 min
Post-Growth Australia PodcastMark Diesendorf and the Path to a Sustainable CivilisationWe are certainly living in precarious times. We have transgressed six out of nine planetary boundaries (with more to come). The gap between the ‘haves’ and ‘have nots’ is beginning to look less like a gap and more like a chasm. The threat of wide-scale war looms large. How do we get ourselves out of this mess before Mad Max becomes a documentary? Luckily for us, Mark Diesendorf and Rod Taylor have co-authored a new book “The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation: Technological, Socioeconomic and Political Change.” Not only does this book unpack several of the main existential challenges facing human...
2023-10-031h 16
Climate ConversationsInterview: 'A cry from the heart' - Mark Diesendorf talks about his new book 'The Path to a Susatainable Civilisation'"The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation" represents something of a culmination of a life's work for Dr Mark Diesendorf.
In this episode, he talks about why he wrote the book, what it means to him and, hopefully, what it will mean to the broader society.
He co-authored the book with science writer and broadcaster, Canberra's Rod Taylor.
It's a beautiful, accessible book that should be read by as many people as possible, particularly those who stand in the way of creating what Mark and Rod see as a "sustainable civilisation".
Those...
2023-09-0740 min
Climate ConversationsA beautiful day; a beautiful book, a book we should read; a book that helps us understandMark Diesendorf and Rod Taylor have co-authored “The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation” and it’s a must read for anyone concerned our future, the well-being of biodiversity, peace and sustainability.
2023-08-3004 min
Climate ConversationsTaking the “Path to a Sustainable Civilisation” with Mark DiesendorfGrab a copy of this book and, most importantly, read it! I mentioned aphasia, you can learn more about it here - https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aphasia/symptoms-causes/syc-20369518. Also, Feeling’s Mik Aidt recently interviewed Mark and you can hear that here - https://climatesafety.info/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/TheClimateRevolution005.mp3
2023-08-2306 min
Earth Matters"The Path to a Sustainable Civilization", by Mark Diesendorf and Rod Taylor.Hear Rod Taylor co-author of a new book The Path to a Sustainable Civilization with Mark Diesendorf.with Ecopella environment choir singing “Let's Pretend” and “My Kyoto”. “Break the bonds of corporate state capture. “The way out of our black hole is to build social movements to pressure the government and big business, to weaken the power of vested interests and strengthen democratic decision-making.This must be done with actions on climate, energy, natural resources, and social justice.Our goal is an ecologically sustainable, socially just civilization.” Book webpage The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation – This civilization is broken. Let's fix it.“Its conclusions about the need for social movements to fight the corporate capture of...
2023-07-2900 minFuzzy Logic Science ShowThe Titanic: economics, neoliberalism and state capture
That our civilisation is unsustainable is abundantly clear. And yet we plough onwards as if business as usual in the faith that somehow the problem will fix itself. In this seminar, authors Dr Mark Diesendorf and Rod Taylor outline the themes in their new book, The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation.
The seminar is introduced by Professor Lorrae Van Kerkhoff from the ANU Fenner School with keynote speaker Dr Richard Denniss from The Australia Institute.
Recorded at Thor's Hammer in Canberra, 4th July 2023.
2023-07-1243 minFuzzy Logic Science ShowThe Path to a Sustainable CivilisationIt seems every day, we hear yet more news about the declining world environment. It's not only climate change, and if when we add other threats including loss of biodiversity and depleting resources, it becomes a dangerous brew.
These are having impacts on people - and the economy - which are largely ignored by neoclassical economics and neoliberalism
Dr Mark Diesendorf and Rod Taylor discuss their new book The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation (Palgrave Macmillan) out now in eBook and soon as paperback. This book tackles the fundamental drivers of this crisis, and what...
2023-05-1318 min
Activist #MMT - podcastModern Money Doughnuts, seas2-ep7: Mark Diesendorf (audio podcast)Welcome to season 2, episode 7 of Modern Money Doughnuts (MMD), hosted by Steven Hail and Gabrielle Bond. MMD is an international show about modern monetary theory and ecological economics. This week, Steven and Gabie talk to Professor Mark Diesendorf. Mark is an expert in renewable energy and how we can plan for a future that is ecologically sustainable and socially just. He has a long-standing interest in ecological economics. We will ask Mark about his upcoming book on planetary boundaries and our energy transition. (All episodes of Modern Money Donuts can be found on this page by Modern...
2022-06-0941 min
Shared LunchRenewable Energy 101This week, Dr Mark Diesendorf from UNSW Sydney is our guest. Mark will discuss the ins and outs of the sector with special focus on Australia and NZ and our growing renewable energy industry. Shared Lunch is a conversation with experts, CEOs, and you. Each week we alternate between an interview with a company leader and an industry deep dive. Episodes are hosted by BusinessDesk journalists including Frances Cook and Dan Brunskill. Brought to you by Sharesies, with BusinessDesk Appearance on Shared Lunch is not an endorsement by Sharesies of the views of the...
2022-05-1244 min
There's an Elephant in my Paddock!The rural economic solution that politics has turned it's back onDavid from Barcaldine has a question- "Why isn't Australian government investing heavily through various CRCs to discover how we can make the most of all the renewable free energy that we've got here in Australia?"
Join host Nicole Bond as she questions some of the greatest minds in Australian renewable energy research and investment and discovers why politics has turned it's back on one of the most promising economic windfalls to rural and regional Australia.
Guests include Ross Garnout, esteemed Australian economist and researcher (among many, many other things), Dr Mark Diesendorf- a member of t...
2021-04-0650 minTuesday HometimeGreen bans, logging, Planet of Humans, corona virus disinformation, Cuba, commemoration of flotilla members murders, police powersHis week that was – Mr Kevin Healy.Green bans – activist and artist Joan Coxsedge.Logging in destroyed forests – Chris Schuringa.Planet of the Humans – Mark Diesendorf. Reply to disinformation in videos re corona virus – retired biochemist Coral Wynter.Part 2 of Sasha Gillies Lekakis' 3 months in Cuba.Commemoration of murders in the Mediterranean of flotilla members by Israelis soldiers – James Godfrey.Keeping track of police with too many powers re virus – Sophie L’Estrange FLS.
2020-05-2600 min
The Syndicate - Where Angel Investors and Venture Capitalists Talk Early Stage Tech StartupsSustainability to Save Ourselves From Climate Change, Automation and Nuclear War | Mark DiesendorfMark Diesendorf teaches, researches and consults in the interdisciplinary fields of sustainability & energy, energy policy, urban transport, ecological economics, and practical sustainability Prior to joining the Institute of Environmental Studies, UNSW Australia, he’s been a Principal Researcher and lecturer at various higher institutions. Mark’s work with organisations including AusAID, Australian Conservation Foundation, Greenpeace Australia Pacific,...
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2019-09-301h 06
The DisruptorsBONUS Future Snippets: The reason renewables have already won and where we’ll be 10 years | Mark DisendorfWelcome to The Disruptors: Future Snippets: Bite-sized clips with TED level top thinkers, founders and scientists on how advances in biotech & genomics, space travel, IoT, AI and other exponential tech converge to create our collective future and what we can do, from a research and policy perspective to shape the trends, technologies and societal norms for a better world.
We'll be publishing a few of these mini-episodes in the main feed before transitioning them over to their own separate feed, which you can subscribe to at https://disruptors.fm/poditunes
Mark Diesendorf (@markdiesendorf) teaches, researches and consults in the interdisciplinary...
2019-08-0104 min
The DisruptorsBONUS Future Snippets: The reason renewables have already won and where we'll be 10 years | Mark DisendorfMark Diesendorf (@markdiesendorf) teaches, researches and consults in the interdisciplinary fields of sustainability & energy, energy policy, urban transport, ecological economics, and practical sustainability Prior to joining the Institute of Environmental Studies, UNSW Australia, he's been a Principal Researcher and lecturer at various higher institutions.To listen to the entire episode, visit: [https://disruptors.fm/119-sustainability-to-save-ourselves-from-climate-change-automation-and-nuclear-war-mark-diesendorf/](https://disruptors.fm/119-sustainability-to-save-ourselves-from-climate-change-automation-and-nuclear-war-mark-diesendorf/)Snippets Episodes on iTunes: [https://disruptors.fm/poditunes](https://disruptors.fm/poditunes)Full Episodes on iTunes: [https://disruptors.fm/itunes](https://disruptors.fm/itunes)
2019-07-3004 min
The Disruptors Future SnippetsThe reason renewables have already won and where we'll be 10 years - Mark DisendorfMark Diesendorf (@markdiesendorf) teaches, researches and consults in the interdisciplinary fields of sustainability & energy, energy policy, urban transport, ecological economics, and practical sustainability Prior to joining the Institute of Environmental Studies, UNSW Australia, he's been a Principal Researcher and lecturer at various higher institutions.To listen to the entire episode, visit: https://disruptors.fm/119-sustainability-to-save-ourselves-from-climate-change-automation-and-nuclear-war-mark-diesendorf/Snippets Episodes on iTunes: https://disruptors.fm/poditunesFull Episodes on iTunes: https://disruptors.fm/itunesSupport The Disruptors Mini-Series - AKA FringeFM or Fringe FM: Short Clips About the Future | Climate Change | Longevity | TED Talks | Crypto | Automation
2019-07-3004 min
The Disruptors - Patron Only119. Sustainability to Save Ourselves From Climate Change, Automation and Nuclear War | Mark DiesendorfMark Diesendorf (@markdiesendorf) teaches, researches and consults in the interdisciplinary fields of sustainability & energy, energy policy, urban transport, ecological economics, and practical sustainability Prior to joining the Institute of Environmental Studies, UNSW Australia, he’s been a Principal Researcher and lecturer at various higher institutions.Mark’s work with organisations including AusAID, Australian Conservation Foundation, Greenpeace Australia Pacific, Hydrocool Pty Ltd, Minister for Minerals & Energy (Western Australia), StateRail (NSW), Sustainable Energy Development Authority of New South Wales, Sustainable Energy Authority of Victoria, WWF Australia, and various municipal and local governments in Australia and China.He has been at various times secr...
2019-06-211h 09
The Disruptors - Patron Only119. Sustainability to Save Ourselves From Climate Change, Automation and Nuclear War | Mark DiesendorfMark Diesendorf (@markdiesendorf) teaches, researches and consults in the interdisciplinary fields of sustainability & energy, energy policy, urban transport, ecological economics, and practical sustainability Prior to joining the Institute of Environmental Studies, UNSW Australia, he’s been a Principal Researcher and lecturer at various higher institutions.Mark’s work with organisations including AusAID, Australian Conservation Foundation, Greenpeace Australia Pacific, Hydrocool Pty Ltd, Minister for Minerals & Energy (Western Australia), StateRail (NSW), Sustainable Energy Development Authority of New South Wales, Sustainable Energy Authority of Victoria, WWF Australia, and various municipal and local governments in Australia and China.He has been at various times secr...
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Mark Diesendorf (@markdiesendorf) teaches, researches and consults in the interdisciplinary fields of sustainability & energy, energy policy, urban transport, ecological economics, and practical sustainability Prior to joining the Institute of Environmental Studies, UNSW Australia, he's been a Principal Researcher and lecturer at various higher institutions.
2019-06-211h 10
The Disruptors119. Sustainability to Save Ourselves From Climate Change, Automation and Nuclear War | Mark DiesendorfMark Diesendorf (@markdiesendorf) teaches, researches and consults in the interdisciplinary fields of sustainability & energy, energy policy, urban transport, ecological economics, and practical sustainability Prior to joining the Institute of Environmental Studies, UNSW Australia, he's been a Principal Researcher and lecturer at various higher institutions.Mark's work with organisations including AusAID, Australian Conservation Foundation, Greenpeace Australia Pacific, Hydrocool Pty Ltd, Minister for Minerals & Energy (Western Australia), StateRail (NSW), Sustainable Energy Development Authority of New South Wales, Sustainable Energy Authority of Victoria, WWF Australia, and various municipal and local governments in Australia and China.He has been at various times...
2019-06-211h 09
Climate Action ShowBeyond Zero - CommunityThis show was broadcast on Monday 3rd April 2017Joining the show wasColin Seis – Pasture Cropping and carbon sequestration, from Gulgong NSWMark Diesendorf UNSW – South Australia and beyond Colin Seis and his son Nicholas own and run the 2000-acre property “Winona” which is situated north of Gulgong on the central slopes of NSW. You can hear Colin speak to BZE’s Viv Langford in a 2014 interview that took place on-site at Gulgong here. Mark Diesendorf is the Associate Professor, Interdisciplinary Environmental Studies, at UNSW and author of How South Australia can function reliably while moving to 100% renewable power in The Conversation. Here he speaks about big pict...
2017-04-0300 min
Talking Point (audio)On The Couch with Mark DiesendorfAuthor and environmental scientist Mark Diesendorf on his new book Climate Action: A Campaign Manual for Greenhouse Solutions.
2011-01-2000 min
The 3rd Degree - Climate Justice RadioEp 17. De-carbonising our Energy SystemsJames caught up with Dr Mark Diesendorf from the Institute of Environment Studies, University of NSW and Author of the Book ' something' about de-carbonising our electricity system. Diesendorf tells us from now until 2020, energy efficiency measures and solar hot water can reduce our demand by around 50%. This can be coupled with wind and biomass energy. After 2020 Mark suggests solar thermal and pv, as well as geothermal can potentially supply all our energy needs. He also calls for a moratorium on new coal fired power.
2008-08-2217 min