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Transforming Us Podcast
How to Begin Healing What’s Within with Dr. Chuck DeGroat
Join us for a profound conversation with author, therapist, and professor Dr. Chuck DeGroat on a very special episode of the Transforming Us podcast. Dr. DeGroat's new book, Healing What's Within, dives deep into how our unhealed pain can impact our relationships with ourselves, others, and God. We explore the powerful idea that what isn't transformed is transmitted and discuss how we can break free from cycles of hurt.Discover how to use tools like the Enneagram wisely for deep self-understanding, why paying attention to your body and nervous system is crucial for true healing, and the...
2025-09-17
51 min
Broken to Beloved Podcast
055: Healing What's Within through Curiosity and Connection with Chuck DeGroat (Favorites)
For the month of June, I'm re-airing some of our favorite episodes. This one originally aired on September 24, 2024.Trauma fundamentally disconnects us.It can disconnect our brains from our bodies. It can sever relationships and entire communities. Those of us familiar with trauma know it can have a real impact on our faith or beliefs. It warps our understanding of others, our sense of safety, and even our own identity.So how do we find connection again?When we are alienated from ourselves, each other, and God, how do...
2025-06-10
48 min
Being Human with Steve Cuss
Chuck DeGroat and The Crisis of Integrity in Church Leadership
What happens when character formation breaks down in church leadership? Steve Cuss and psychologist-theologian Chuck DeGroat work through the hidden dynamics behind pastoral burnout, narcissism, and the slow erosion of integrity. They explore how unexamined coping mechanisms shape identity, why church boards often miss red flags, and what it really takes to create a culture of safety and true accountability. Steve and Chuck offer tools for healthier leadership—inside and outside the church. Resources mentioned in this episode include: The work of Chuck DeGroat at Western Seminary Explore the Soul Care Institute ...
2025-06-02
48 min
Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick
Episode 347 - Chuck DeGroat, "Healing from Within"
Welcome to another episode of Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick. In this conversation, Michael is joined once again by Chuck DeGroat—pastor, therapist, and author—for an honest and hope-filled exploration of what it means to truly heal from the inside out. Together, they discuss Chuck’s latest book, Healing What’s Within: Coming Home to Yourself and to God When You’re Wounded, Weary, and Wandering.Diving deep into the heart of spiritual and emotional disconnection, the episode unpacks the journey of finding our way “home”—to our true selves and to God—especially when life’s wounds...
2025-05-05
41 min
Three Percent
"Healing What's Within" with Chuck DeGroat
In this conversation, we speak with Chuck DeGroat and explore themes of self-awareness, trauma, and the compassionate nature of God. We discuss the importance of understanding one's own experiences and how they shape perceptions of God and self. The dialogue emphasizes the need for deeper self-regulation rather than just self-awareness, highlighting the complexities of navigating personal trauma and the journey towards healing.TakeawaysThe Genesis story can be reframed to highlight God's curiosity and compassion.Questions like 'Where are you?' can foster deeper self-reflection.Understanding early experiences is crucial in shaping our...
2025-04-14
44 min
Religion on the Mind
Narcissism Part 2 with Chuck DeGroat (#318)
I welcome back psychologist Dr. Chuck DeGroat to continue our discussion on narcissism in religious settings that we began in this episode in February. After recapping our previous conversation about the development and manifestation of narcissism in church systems, we discuss a troubling trend in conservative Christian circles: the demonization of empathy. Chuck expresses bewilderment at this rhetoric, suggesting it functions as "an apologetic for apathy" and reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of healthy, differentiated empathy. We distinguish between losing oneself in others' emotions (undifferentiated empathy) versus maintaining healthy boundaries while connecting (differentiated empathy), noting t...
2025-04-07
19 min
Religion on the Mind
Narcissism Part 2 with Chuck DeGroat (#318)
I welcome back psychologist Dr. Chuck DeGroat to continue our discussion on narcissism in religious settings that we began in this episode in February. After recapping our previous conversation about the development and manifestation of narcissism in church systems, we discuss a troubling trend in conservative Christian circles: the demonization of empathy. Chuck expresses bewilderment at this rhetoric, suggesting it functions as "an apologetic for apathy" and reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of healthy, differentiated empathy. We distinguish between losing oneself in others' emotions (undifferentiated empathy) versus maintaining healthy boundaries while connecting (differentiated empathy), noting t...
2025-04-07
19 min
Spiritual Life and Leadership
262. From Fired to Flourishing, with Chuck DeGroat, author of Healing What's Within
In his newest book, Chuck DeGroat offers a deeply personal account of his journey of being fired from a ministry position and the stress surrounding that experience that ultimately led to a life-changing health crisis. But it was that crisis that showed him the much deeper inner healing he needed.In this episode, Chuck DeGroat discusses not only his experience of deep inner healing, but also the need for inner healing for all of us who are ministry leaders.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Chuck DeGroat highlights his experience with the autonomic...
2025-04-01
42 min
The Afterglow
How Do We Heal What’s Within Us? - with Dr. Chuck DeGroat, Dr. Darcy Hansen, and Lisa Procter
On this Afterglow Episode we welcome Dr. Chuck DeGroat, Dr. Darcy Hansen, and Lisa Procter to the podcast studio where we rip into questions about “remembering rightly,” “remembering redemptively,” and what is “home.” This episode comes off the back of a 6 hour SOFE (school of formation & engagement) learning session with Dr. Chuck DeGroat focused on Healing What’s Within. This episode is an honest, raw, and searching dialog concerning life, loss, and what does it mean to return home. We hope it helps.https://thesofe.com
2025-03-21
39 min
Holy Shift
#18 - When Narcissism Comes to Church with Chuck DeGroat (Author, Therapist)
What do you do when a leader's public persona doesn't match who they are behind the scenes?In this episode we sat down with Chuck DeGroat. Chuck is a therapist, a professor at Western Seminary in Holland MI, and the author of 5 books (Including When Narcissism Comes to Church, and most recently Healing What’s Within: And this episode was a deep dive on all things narcissistic church leadership.In this episode Chuck: gave us an operating definition of nar...
2025-02-19
50 min
Faith & Feelings
Learning to Listen to the Story Your Body Is Telling with Chuck DeGroat
While the work of self-awareness begins with pursuing a better understanding of our lives and stories, so many of us can stop there. As licensed therapist, author, and professor Chuck DeGroat and I talk about today, we often keep this awareness in past-tense, not understanding how our bodies are still holding these stories. We can ignore symptoms and bodily sensations like hypervigilance, sleeplessness, or exhaustion telling us the story of where we really are. And our bodies never lie. They often give us the best data about what’s happening within. Chuck brings such beautiful sto...
2025-02-10
28 min
A World of Difference
Dr. Chuck DeGroat on Healing the Inner Wounds: Finding Wholeness After Abuse (Best of 2024)
If you're feeling the weight of past trauma and struggling to heal, then you are not alone! The journey to healing from abuse and trauma is often filled with challenges, and finding the right tools to navigate this journey can be overwhelming. But what if there was a resource that could guide you through this process and help you cultivate well-being?In this episode, you will be able to: Explore the transformative power of therapy in healing from abuse and trauma and reclaiming your well-being. Uncover the impact of narcissism in church leadership and gain insights...
2025-01-22
45 min
Pursuing Redemption
The Road to 'Healing What's Within' with Chuck DeGroat
Send us a textWe can’t always control what happens to us. But we can discover how to heal the hidden hurt it leaves behind.If you’re like many of us, you carry a weight of buried pain. Despite looking put together on the outside, you feel secretly fractured within. While you appear strong and resilient on the outside, inside a storm brews of all the ways you’ve been hurt or harmed. Not knowing what to do with your suffering and fearing you'll be hurt again, you’ve learned to cope, to...
2024-12-04
33 min
Future Christian
Chuck DeGroat on Healing What's Within
What if the core problem in most humans these days isn't that we think too highly of ourselves, but rather that we live with an underlying sense of worthlessness, alienation, and disillusionment? In this episode, Chuck DeGroat joins the pod to talk about his book Healing What's Within and the concept of Internal Family Systems theory. Sharing from his background as a therapist and pastor, DeGroat explains the importance of befriending our different parts and becoming aware of how they show up in different situations. DeGroat emphasizes the significance of connecting with our true selves and living from that c...
2024-11-02
44 min
Being Human with Steve Cuss
‘Healing What’s Within’ with Chuck DeGroat
Chuck DeGroat’s name has become somewhat synonymous with work on narcissism in the church. But as he and Steve Cuss discuss, DeGroat is devoted to shining a light on wholeheartedness and internal integration. DeGroat and Cuss talk about anxiety—specifically around dying—and the way that age often brings with it a concern for one’s legacy. They talk about experiencing pain through work in church settings, noticing emotions that arise in ourselves and others, and coming home to God and ourselves—all while considering the impact of secondary trauma on people in pastoral and helping professions...
2024-10-28
43 min
We Are Vineyard
Leadership Under Pressure: Chuck DeGroat
In this episode of We Are Vineyard, Jay talks with Chuck DeGroat about his entrance to ministry and when his interests started turning toward psychology and people’s lives. Chuck talks about the intersection between narcissism and pastoral health and the pitfall of pastors turning inside themselves in self-protection. Jay and Chuck discuss the policies and structures Vineyard USA is beginning to implement to help keep pastors connected and healthy, and the importance of resourcing and relationship in preventing pastoral implosion. Chuck DeGroat is a follower of Jesus, a husband to Sara for 30 years, and father to two amazing daughters. He...
2024-10-23
1h 03
Win Today: Your Roadmap to Wholeness
411: Chuck DeGroat on Why We've Been Habituated for Disconnection, The Sympathetic Nervous System Storm, Why Trauma Thrives in Isolation, How to Partner with Your Nervous System to Heal, and Why Self-Hatred is Usually an Old Voice
This week, we're diving deep into the psychology of connection and healing with author and therapist, Chuck DeGroat. Chuck's insights on the root causes of disconnection, the role of trauma, and the power of self-compassion offer a profound perspective on personal growth. In this episode, you'll learn why our modern lives often leave us feeling isolated and overwhelmed. Chuck will guide us through practical strategies to calm our nervous systems, break free from self-hatred, and foster deeper connections with ourselves and others. Whether you're seeking to heal from past trauma, improve your relationships, or simply understand yourself better, this...
2024-10-16
1h 01
The Allender Center Podcast
"Healing What's Within" with Chuck DeGroat
On this week's episode of The Allender Center Podcast, licensed therapist, professor, and author Chuck DeGroat returns to discuss his latest book, "Healing What's Within: Coming Home to Yourself—and to God—When You're Wounded, Weary, and Wandering." In this deeply personal and insightful conversation, Chuck explores the profound journey of healing from trauma, especially when it's caused by circumstances beyond our control. After the release of his previous book, "When Narcissism Comes to Church," Chuck was flooded with messages from people dealing with wounds that weren't their fault. This prompted him to ask: How do w...
2024-10-11
46 min
Whole Hearted Leadership with Lantz Howard
Healing What’s Within: Coming Home to Yourself and to God When You’re Weary, Wounded, and Wandering | Author and Therapist Chuck DeGroat
Lantz Howard and Chuck DeGroat discussed the importance of curiosity and self-reflection in personal growth and development. Chuck emphasized that curiosity may arise at different stages of life, such as when transitioning from one's twenties to thirties or forties, and that it's essential to confront larger questions about meaning, purpose, and mortality. He also highlighted the significance of having courageous conversations with others, even if they may not be ready for them immediately. Chuck shared his personal journey of growth and surrender, expressing his desire to become more spacious, present, and connected. He encouraged others to embrace this journey...
2024-10-11
45 min
IMbetween Podcast on Marriage, Parenting, Faith, and Everything In Between
What Your Longings and Loneliness Might Be Telling You with Chuck DeGroat
In Episode 186, Daniel and Christina Im engage in a profound conversation with Chuck De Groat, a licensed therapist and author of "Healing What's Within." The discussion centers on themes of loneliness, healing, and the integration of spiritual and psychological insights. Chuck shares his journey in writing his book and emphasizes the importance of reconnecting with oneself. The episode explores practical tools for self-examination and highlights the significance of understanding and addressing deeper longings for connection and fulfillment.In This Episode, You'll Hear About: Exploration of themes of loneliness and disconnection. Discussion on the...
2024-10-10
48 min
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Healing What's Within: Coming Home to Yourself--and to God--When You're Wounded, Weary, and Wandering by Chuck DeGroat
Please visithttps://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/809554to listen full audiobooks. Title: Healing What's Within: Coming Home to Yourself--and to God--When You're Wounded, Weary, and Wandering Author: Chuck DeGroat Narrator: Chuck DeGroat Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 5 hours 36 minutes Release date: October 8, 2024 Ratings: Ratings of Book: 3 of Total 1 Genres: Medicine & Naturopathy Publisher's Summary: We can’t always control what happens to us. But we can discover how to heal the hidden hurt it leaves behind. If you’re like many of us, you carry a weight of buried pain. Despite looking put together on the outside, you feel secretly fractured within. While you ap...
2024-10-08
5h 36
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Please visithttps://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/809554to listen full audiobooks. Title: Healing What's Within: Coming Home to Yourself--and to God--When You're Wounded, Weary, and Wandering Author: Chuck DeGroat Narrator: Chuck DeGroat Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 5 hours 36 minutes Release date: October 8, 2024 Ratings: Ratings of Book: 3 of Total 1 Genres: Mental Health & Psychology Publisher's Summary: We can’t always control what happens to us. But we can discover how to heal the hidden hurt it leaves behind. If you’re like many of us, you carry a weight of buried pain. Despite looking put together on the outside, you feel secretly fractured within. While...
2024-10-08
5h 36
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Please visithttps://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/809554to listen full audiobooks. Title: Healing What's Within: Coming Home to Yourself--and to God--When You're Wounded, Weary, and Wandering Author: Chuck DeGroat Narrator: Chuck DeGroat Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 5 hours 36 minutes Release date: October 8, 2024 Ratings: Ratings of Book: 3 of Total 1 Genres: Christianity Publisher's Summary: We can’t always control what happens to us. But we can discover how to heal the hidden hurt it leaves behind. If you’re like many of us, you carry a weight of buried pain. Despite looking put together on the outside, you feel secretly fractured within. While you appear...
2024-10-08
5h 36
Gravity Commons Podcast
Chuck DeGroat: How to Heal From What's Happened to Us
We talked with Chuck DeGroat about how to heal from the hidden hurt of what's happened to us that we couldn't control. His new book Healing What’s Within: Coming Home to Yourself—and to God—When You're Wounded, Weary, and Wandering is available today.Chuck DeGroat is a professor of pastoral care and Christian spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan, where he also serves as the founding executive director of the clinical mental health counseling program. He is a licensed therapist, spiritual director, author, retreat leader speaker, and faculty member with the Soul Care Instit...
2024-10-08
48 min
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Please visithttps://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/809554to listen full audiobooks. Title: Healing What's Within: Coming Home to Yourself--and to God--When You're Wounded, Weary, and Wandering Author: Chuck DeGroat Narrator: Chuck DeGroat Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 5 hours 36 minutes Release date: October 8, 2024 Ratings: Ratings of Book: 3 of Total 1 Genres: Mental Health & Psychology Publisher's Summary: We can’t always control what happens to us. But we can discover how to heal the hidden hurt it leaves behind. If you’re like many of us, you carry a weight of buried pain. Despite looking put together on the outside, you feel secretly fractured within. While...
2024-10-08
5h 36
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Please visithttps://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/809554to listen full audiobooks. Title: Healing What's Within: Coming Home to Yourself--and to God--When You're Wounded, Weary, and Wandering Author: Chuck DeGroat Narrator: Chuck DeGroat Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 5 hours 36 minutes Release date: October 8, 2024 Ratings: Ratings of Book: 3 of Total 1 Genres: Christianity Publisher's Summary: We can’t always control what happens to us. But we can discover how to heal the hidden hurt it leaves behind. If you’re like many of us, you carry a weight of buried pain. Despite looking put together on the outside, you feel secretly fractured within. While you appear...
2024-10-08
5h 36
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Please visithttps://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/809554to listen full audiobooks. Title: Healing What's Within: Coming Home to Yourself--and to God--When You're Wounded, Weary, and Wandering Author: Chuck DeGroat Narrator: Chuck DeGroat Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 5 hours 36 minutes Release date: October 8, 2024 Ratings: Ratings of Book: 3 of Total 1 Genres: Medicine & Naturopathy Publisher's Summary: We can’t always control what happens to us. But we can discover how to heal the hidden hurt it leaves behind. If you’re like many of us, you carry a weight of buried pain. Despite looking put together on the outside, you feel secretly fractured within. While you ap...
2024-10-08
5h 36
Attaching to God: Neuroscience-informed Spiritual Formation
095 Healing What's Within (with Dr. Chuck DeGroat)
Like many of us, you carry a weight of buried pain. You feel secretly fractured within. There’s a constant churn of unprocessed feelings of shame, anger, grief, or loneliness. But it doesn’t have to be this way. Chuck DeGroat is the Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality and Executive Director of the Clinical Mental Health Counseling Program at Western Theological Seminary Holland MI. He is also a licensed and practicing therapist, a spiritual director, author of five books. He wrote When Narcissism Comes to Church and his newest book just landed in early October Healing What’s...
2024-10-07
32 min
Shifting Culture
Ep. 230 Chuck DeGroat - Healing What's Within
In this episode, Chuck DeGroat dives into the wounds we all carry and the journey of healing what's within. Chuck shares his own story of disconnection and isolation, and how he learned to pay attention to the dashboard of his thoughts, emotions, body, behaviors, and relationships to uncover the deeper wounds beneath the surface. He unpacks the power of secure attachment and how we can find our way back to that sense of belonging, worth, and purpose - not just in our minds, but in our very bodies. Whether you're a high-capacity striver or someone just trying to survive...
2024-10-07
1h 03
Your Enneagram Coach, the Podcast
Episode 245: Healing What’s Within w/Chuck DeGroat
Join us on the podcast as we welcome therapist and author Chuck DeGroat to discuss his transformative new book, Healing What’s Within. We all face challenges that leave their mark on us, often leading to buried pain that we struggle to acknowledge. If you feel disconnected from your true self, you're not alone.In this episode we’ll delve into:How to gently confront what’s keeping you stuckThe relationship between your body and emotionsFinding real rest and renewal in your co...
2024-10-07
53 min
Enneagram and Marriage
Healing What's Within When You're Wounded, Weary, and Wandering w/Dr. Chuck DeGroat, Type 4
Even if you're lined up with meaningful work you enjoy, if you're burning the wick at both ends in any way, your central nervous system doesn't know how to respond, and your body may be experiencing trauma. If you're feeling weary on the journey of life or faith at all, make sure you take a deep breath with us and shift back into health as we invite the esteemed author and professor Dr. Chuck DeGroat on the podcast today to address helping you to find safety with yourself and with God as we share healthy rhythms for you and...
2024-10-07
46 min
space for faith with mike goldsworthy
082 - Chuck DeGroat and Healing What's Within
Chuck DeGroat is on the podcast today as we explore understanding what is trauma, the 3 questions from Genesis 3 that open us up to healing the wounds within us in order to become ourselves again, and the intersection of spiritual trauma and stages of faith. Chuck ends our time by leading us through a practice together. Chuck DeGroat is a professor of pastoral care and Christian spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan, where he also serves as the founding executive director of the clinical mental health counseling program. He is a lic...
2024-10-03
43 min
The Best of You
Episode 123: How to Heal When You’ve Been Hurt—Healing What’s Within with Narcissism Expert Chuck DeGroat
What do you do after someone hurts you?How do you heal the pain that lingers inside of you?This is such an incredibly helpful, honest and vulnerable conversation with my friend and fellow therapist Chuck DeGroat, author of the brand new book Healing What's Within. Chuck taught us so much about the harmful realities of narcissism in his book, When Narcissism Comes to Church, and now he's helping us heal the lingering wounds.Here’s what we cover:1. The moment that la...
2024-10-03
44 min
Broken to Beloved Podcast
015: Healing What's Within through Curiosity and Connection with Chuck DeGroat
Trauma fundamentally disconnects us.It can disconnect our brains from our bodies. It can sever relationships and entire communities. Those of us familiar with trauma know it can have a real impact on our faith or beliefs. It warps our understanding of others, our sense of safety, and even our own identity.So how do we find connection again?When we are alienated from ourselves, each other, and God, how do we find our way back home? These are the questions that therapist and author Chuck DeGroat tackles in...
2024-09-24
47 min
Liminal Living
78: Chuck DeGroat: Trauma, Narcissism, Deconstruction, Dark Night of the Soul
LinksPre-order Chuck's New Book: [click here]Chucks Author Page: [click here]Chuck's Amazon Page: [click here]TakeawaysChuck DeGroat's faith journey was shaped by a mix of embodied spirituality and disorientation due to brokenness in his parents' marriage.He found a broader understanding of faith through the contemplative tradition and the mystics, which opened up a more expansive language for his experience of God.Chuck DeGroat's work as a counselor, spiritual director, and author is rooted in his own experiences of pain and the desire to help others navigate their own wounds.Narcissism in church...
2024-09-11
56 min
A World of Difference
Dr. Chuck DeGroat on Healing What's WIthin: Finding Wholeness After Abuse
If you're feeling the weight of past trauma and struggling to heal, then you are not alone! The journey to healing from abuse and trauma is often filled with challenges, and finding the right tools to navigate this journey can be overwhelming. But what if there was a resource that could guide you through this process and help you cultivate well-being?In this episode, you will be able to: Explore the transformative power of therapy in healing from abuse and trauma and reclaiming your well-being. Uncover the impact of narcissism in church leadership and gain insights...
2024-09-11
55 min
Flip Your Lid with Kim Honeycutt
Personal Transformation and Finding True Self with Dr. Chuck DeGroat
In this episode, Kim Honeycutt interviews Dr. Chuck DeGroat, a therapist and spiritual director, about navigating profound personal transformation and reconnecting with one’s true self. They discuss the impact of life-changing moments, Dr. DeGroat's journey through emotional neglect and health crises, and the role of self-awareness and boundaries. The conversation covers the Enneagram, compassion fatigue, and how to stay grounded amid polarized social and political landscapes. Tune in for insights on personal growth, vulnerability, and spiritual healing.What They Discuss:Personal Transformation: Moments that dramatically alter one's life path and the journey to reconnect with th...
2024-09-10
55 min
Live Fully. Lead Authentically. A Brimstone Coaching Podcast
Ep. 20 Brimestone Talks - Chuck DeGroat
In this episode, Kurt and Chris welcome their friend, author and professor, Chuck DeGroat! Listen along as the guys and Chuck talk about Chuck’s upcoming book, “Healing What’s Within,” and unpack God’s questions to Adam and Eve in Genesis 3; “Where are you?” “Who told you you were naked? “Have you eaten the fruit?” Chuck shares such a beautiful theological view of those questions that not only lead to a gracious perspective of how God sees us, but also leads to a gracious and compassionate view of self! To preorder Chuck's new book, "Healing What's Within," click here...
2024-09-03
48 min
Wise Practice Podcast
Healing What's Within with Chuck DeGroat | WP93
Healing What's Within: A Conversation with Chuck DeGroat on Trauma, Healing, and Faith In this episode of the Wise Practice Podcast, host Whitney Owens interviews Chuck DeGroat, a seasoned pastor, therapist, and author. They delve deep into Chuck's new and previous books, discussing topics such as trauma, narcissism in the church, and the importance of doing one's own therapeutic work. Chuck shares his rich experience from teaching at Western Theological Seminary and starting Christian clinical mental health programs. The conversation also touches on the personal journey of balancing professional and spiritual life, highlighting valuable lessons for faith-based therapists....
2024-08-06
37 min
Consulting Matters
How to Deal with Narcissism in the Workplace with Chuck DeGroat (Ep102)
So, the leader you’re working with is a narcissist… We’ve probably all had one: a boss or a client with a grandiose sense of self-importance, a need for nonstop admiration, a lack of empathy, and a sense of entitlement. And we’ve all been stumped on how to handle it! Can you relate? If so, pay close attention to this episode where my guest, licensed therapist, author, and narcissism expert, Chuck DeGroat will share with you why so many narcissists wind up in positions of leadership and how to handle them. He...
2024-03-21
48 min
Untangled Faith
113: Self Awareness Isn't Enough. Guest: Chuck DeGroat
Chuck DeGroat returns to the Untangled Faith podcast with host Amy Fritz to explore the transformative work of moving from self-awareness to self-regulation and how our response to shame changes everything. “I call the work that I do sometimes excavation work, because we're removing rubble. . .There's a lot of rubble that has kept me inwardly oriented and not as merciful or more prone to bitterness than prone to justice as I do my own work. And as I identify these parts of me that are self-protective, and befriend them and bless them and offer peace to them, th...
2024-03-13
36 min
Pirate Monk Podcast
405 | Chuck Degroat | Understanding Narcissism
On this episode: Pablito and Rob bumper. Nate and Aaron may be striking or joining SAG. Pablito considers mug shots. Our Guest: Nate and Aaron interview our guest, Chuck Degroat. His experience includes: Professor of pastoral care and Christian Spirituality and Executive Director of the Clinical Mental Health Counseling Program at Western Theological Seminary in Holland Michigan, author, pastor, therapist, spiritual director, husband, and father. Narcissism expert Chuck teaches us about the differences between narcissist behavior and narcissistic personality disorder. He explains the nine faces of narcissism. Understanding how narcissism can be a way of coping with...
2024-02-01
59 min
Radical Love Live
When Narcissism Comes to Church: With Chuck DeGroat
Over the last few years, there has been a lot of discussion about narcissism and the destruction it can do: in politics, in organizations, and unfortunately, in churches. Is narcissism self-love or does it disguise something deeper? Why are the qualities of a narcissist often praised in leaders? How can we encourage cultures of humility, vulnerability, and curiosity instead of narcissism? We talk with Chuck DeGroat, author of "When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse"Chuck DeGroat (LPC, PhD) is professor of pastoral care and Christian spirituality at...
2024-01-14
50 min
Your Enneagram Coach, the Podcast
Episode 201: Embracing Emotional Contradictions as a Type 4 with Dr. Chuck DeGroat
In this engaging podcast episode, Beth McCord, founder of Your Enneagram Coach, talks to Dr. Chuck DeGroat about his experiences as an Enneagram Type 4.FREE Enneagram resources here: https://www.yourenneagramcoach.com/podcastresources ✅ Learn how counter-type fours navigate a wide range of emotions internally while often presenting a controlled, sunny exterior. ✅ Understand the unique journey of highly sensitive men in a society that doesn't always value their emotions.
2023-12-11
1h 00
Attaching to God: Neuroscience-informed Spiritual Formation
077: Why Humility and Hope is Essential for Therapists & Pastors (Dr. Chuck DeGroat)
What character formation is required for soul care professionals, people like therapists, pastors, or spiritual directors? And what does this mean for everyone who follows Jesus? It is humility and hope, says Dr. Chuck DeGroat. It is doing your work, the work on yourself. Today we talk about how so often (like pastors) therapists in training receive little character formation even while they receive the information needed to diagnose and remedy mental illnesses. Dr. DeGroat talks about his own pastoral and therapeutic training, how counselors (like pastors) are often taught how to help others without le...
2023-11-01
33 min
FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye - Healthy Leadership for Life and Ministry
Hope & Healing for Spiritual Abuse - Chuck DeGroat - 47 - FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye
In an era of cynicism and cancel culture, how can our local churches provide hope and healing for those who've experienced emotional and spiritual abuse? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Chuck DeGroat, a licensed therapist and spiritual director, who serves as professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary. Chuck has written a number of books, including When Narcissism Comes to Church. Together, Chuck and Jason begin by looking at how narcissism in churches and church leaders has been addressed in recent history, especially the past few years. Then...
2023-03-07
39 min
Saved by the City
'Celebrity Pastor' Is an Oxymoron + Chuck DeGroat
Is there any hope for toxic celebrity pastors?Stories abound of pastors who started to believe their own hype – and ended up capsizing their church and hurting a lot of people. There are spiritual and relational costs to putting leaders on pedestals.But celebrity dynamics also are bad for pastors themselves. Many find themselves “alone at the top,” without real friendship and accountability, which can foster various addictions and abuses. In the second episode of our summer series, Roxy and Katelyn are joined by spiritual formation expert Chuck DeGroat, who has counseled hundreds of pastors in cri...
2022-08-17
46 min
Untangled Faith
46: When Narcissism Comes to Church. Guest: Chuck DeGroat
Author, licensed therapist, spiritual director, and speaker Chuck DeGroat joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith Podcast. Chuck DeGroat is the author of the book When Narcissism Comes to Church which came out in 2020. The paperback edition releases soon making this a perfect time for a conversation with him on the podcast. Amy and Chuck talk about all things narcissism including the many faces of narcissism in faith communities, what systemic narcissism looks like, and what to do when you hear reports that a leader you admire has hurt someone. How do you know what...
2022-07-13
46 min
A World of Difference
Wellness: Dr. Chuck DeGroat (Rebroadcast) on When Narcissism Comes To Church, Pastors Who Abuse, How Elder Boards Can Recognize Ingratiation, and The Many Sides of a Narcissist
In light of recent events with elder boards making decisions on allegations of abuse by pastors, a rebroadcast on one of our more popular and requested guests, Dr. Chuck DeGroat, seemed timely. Dr. Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality and Interim D.Min. Director at Western Theological Seminary and faculty member for the Soul Care Institute. He is an author, speaker, consultant, and therapist. He is a Minister of Word and Sacrament in the Reformed Church in America. He pastored in Orlando and San Francisco before transitioning to training and forming pastors. Hi...
2022-07-06
1h 11
More Than Fine
Decoding the Narcissist: Exposing the Faces of Narcissism to Find Freedom from Emotional & Spiritual Abuse with Chuck DeGroat
Narcissistic abuse is rampant in our society and in our churches. However, naming and exposing narcissism can help us to find freedom from abuse we have already suffered in the past, and protect us (and those we love) from abuse in the future. Chuck DeGroat discusses how to understand narcissism as a spectrum, and reveals nine different ways a narcissist may show up in relationships. Chuck also talks about the role of narcissism in spiritual abuse, and describes how entire church organizations can become narcissistic and spiritually abusive. Visit ChuckDeGroat.net Purchase Chuck's book, When...
2022-03-23
53 min
Typology
REPLAY: Chuck Degroat on the Nine Faces of Narcissism {S05-021]
We're taking a break to be with family over the holiday so we wanted to replay two topic-based episodes that have gone over extremely well with our listeners. This week, take another listen to my killer conversation with psychologist, author, and spiritual director Chuck Degroat, about the nine faces of narcissism. We're not talking about people with full-blown narcissistic personality disorder per se. We're talking about narcissism on a continuum and what it looks like when each Enneagram type is manifesting a narcissistic style or type. Each of us is somewhere on that narcissistic spectrum. In...
2021-12-23
1h 09
Hope Renewed
45 - Wholehearted - Chuck DeGroat
Exhaustion. False self. Divided heart. Narcissism. These are terms that are becoming more and more associated with pastoral ministry. And while the concepts are not new - just look at the Biblical examples of them! - the current attention they're receiving comes with a fresh perspective on their antidote. Join us as we sit with pastor, professor, therapist, spiritual director and author Chuck DeGroat as he outlines God's hope and cure for a fragmented and out-of-control life. Perhaps it's best explained in David's prayer in Psalm 86: "Give me an undivided heart..."
2021-11-08
53 min
The Englewood Review of Books Podcast
Episode 32: Hannah Anderson and Chuck DeGroat
Jen is joined by two great first-time guests to discuss the current evangelical reckoning with destructive spiritual leadership, narcissism, humility, and of course lots of books on the subject!Hannah Anderson lives in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia where she spends her days writing and reading and caring for her family. She is the author of multiple books, including All That’s Good: Recovering the Lost Art of Discernment and Humble Roots: How Humility Grounds and Nourishes Your Soul. Hannah is also the co-host of the Persuasion Podcast. You can follow Hannah on Twitter @sometimesalight.Ch...
2021-10-01
39 min
THE HOLY SHIFT PODCAST WITH SCOTT NEAL
HSP 5: Dr. Chuck DeGroat On Abusive Leaders, How To Identify Red Flags, And His Book, When Narcissism Comes To Church
Chuck DeGroat PROFESSOR OF PASTORAL CARE AND CHRISTIAN SPIRITUALITY Chuck is committed to spiritual and emotional formation for the sake of mission. His experience is represented in a fluid combination of pastoral ministry and seminary training for 20 years. He has served several church plants as a teaching pastor and has started two church-based clinical counseling centers. Most recently, he was a teaching pastor at City Church San Francisco, where he co-founded Newbigin House of Studies, an urban and missional training center with offerings through Western Theological Seminary. His academic specialization is in the i...
2021-09-29
45 min
THE HOLY SHIFT PODCAST WITH SCOTT NEAL
HSP 5: Dr. Chuck DeGroat On Abusive Leaders, How To Identify Red Flags, And His Book, When Narcissism Comes To Church
Chuck DeGroat PROFESSOR OF PASTORAL CARE AND CHRISTIAN SPIRITUALITY Chuck is committed to spiritual and emotional formation for the sake of mission. His experience is represented in a fluid combination of pastoral ministry and seminary training for 20 years. He has served several church plants as a teaching pastor and has started two church-based clinical counseling centers. Most recently, he was a teaching pastor at City Church San Francisco, where he co-founded Newbigin House of Studies, an urban and missional training center with offerings through Western Theological Seminary. His academic specialization is in the i...
2021-09-29
45 min
Halfway There
253: Chuck DeGroat and Invitation to Obscurity
Chuck DeGroat is professor of pastoral care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary and author of When Narcissism Comes to Church. Today, Chuck shares about dealing with anxiety his entire life, pursuing a life of influence, and how stepping back from that helped him find wholeness. Chuck also discusses the brokenness that so many pastors experience and how we can facilitate wholeness. Chuck’s story reminds us that honesty is the key to walking with the Lord. Listen to Chuck’s story now! Stories Chuck shared: Growing up on Long Island, NY Exp...
2021-07-19
1h 04
A World of Difference
Change Makers EPS 42: Dr. Chuck DeGroat on Narcissism in the Church, Spiritual Abuse, Emotional Abuse, and Empathy with Accountability
Dr. Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, MI, and Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco. He is an author, speaker, consultant, and therapist. Chuck has been married to Sara for 27 years, and has two adult daughters.He is the author of: When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional and Spiritual Abuse Leaving Egypt: Finding God in Wilderness Places Wholeheartedness: Busyness, Exhaustion and Healing the Divided Self, Toughest People to Love: How to Understand, Lead, and Love the Difficult People in Your Life...
2021-06-24
1h 05
The Struggling Pastor Podcast
Dr. Chuck DeGroat on Narcissism in the Church
This is an interview with Dr. Chuck DeGroat about his newest book, "When Narcissism Comes to Church." We talk about the signs of narcissism, how it hurts the church, and the process of healing.Chuck is a Professor at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. You can connect with Chuck by going to his website - www.chuckdegroat.net.Chuck's book, "When Narcissism Comes to Church"10 Signs of Narcissism - Centering all decision-making on themselves- Impatience or an inability to listen to others
2021-03-15
1h 01
Preacher Boys Podcast
How to Spot a Narcissist in the Church and Prevent Spiritual Abuse | Chuck DeGroat
Support the Show:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboys Purchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––On this episode of the Preacher Boys Podcast, Eric sits down with the author of When Narcissism Comes to Church, Chuck DeGroat.–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––Purchase a copy of When Narcissism Comes to Church here: https://amzn.to/37ykJob–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, MI, and Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco...
2021-02-24
43 min
Preacher Boys Podcast
How to Spot a Narcissist in the Church and Prevent Spiritual Abuse | Chuck DeGroat
Support the Show:https://www.patreon.com/preacherboys Purchase a Preacher Boys shirt, mask, sticker, or other merch to rep the show! https://www.teepublic.com/user/preacher-boys-podcast––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––On this episode of the Preacher Boys Podcast, Eric sits down with the author of When Narcissism Comes to Church, Chuck DeGroat.–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––Purchase a copy of When Narcissism Comes to Church here: https://amzn.to/37ykJob–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, MI, and Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco...
2021-02-24
43 min
The Allender Center Podcast
Listener Questions about Narcissism with Chuck DeGroat
As a follow up to last week's conversation, Dr. Chuck DeGroat returns to the podcast to answer listener questions about narcissism with Dan and Rachael. How are we to engage a person who might be a parent, spouse, or spiritual leader who has narcissistic characteristics? How do we engage a narcissist with wisdom? And, on a larger scale, how do we recognize the symptoms of a narcissistic church culture? We are deeply grateful for our community, for your bravery in asking these vulnerable questions. We ask that, as you listen to this conversation, you pay attention to...
2021-01-22
43 min
Kingdom Roots
When Narcissism Comes to Church (Conversation with Chuck DeGroat) - KR 167
Chuck DeGroat has been counseling pastors with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, as well as those wounded by narcissistic leaders and systems, for over twenty years. He knows firsthand the devastation narcissism leaves in its wake and how insidious and painful it is. In this episode of Kingdom Roots, Scot and Laura join Chuck to take a close look at narcissism, not only in ministry leaders but also in church systems. Chuck offers insight about how to share compassion and hope for those affected by its destructive power and imparts wise counsel for churches looking to heal from its systemic effects. Purchase...
2021-01-21
35 min
The Allender Center Podcast
Narcissism and the Church with Chuck DeGroat
Today on the podcast, Dr. Dan Allender and Rachael Clinton Chen have a timely conversation with Chuck DeGroat, professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, licensed therapist, and spiritual director. He is the author of Leaving Egypt: Finding God in the Wilderness Places as well as When Narcissism Comes to Church, which serves as the primary topic of conversation throughout this episode. In this special episode, you'll learn more about the characteristics of narcissism, how Chuck came to address narcissism in the context of the church (particularly in the realm of church planting), and the reckoning...
2021-01-15
52 min
The Faithful Podcast
Episode 39: Chuck DeGroat - Narcissism in Churches
Chuck DeGroat's most recent book bravely and lovingly calls out narcissism in churches, especially in church leadership. We must identify and address this issue in order to begin healing many of the wounds to the body of Christ. Chuck's Website: chuckdegroat.net When Narcissism Comes To Church (Amazon purchase page) Chuck's Twitter Chuck's Books on Amazon Chuck's Instagram
2021-01-02
58 min
Book Author Podcast
Book Author Podcast – When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse by Chuck DeGroat
When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse by Chuck DeGroat Chuckdegroat.net Why does narcissism seem to thrive in our churches? We’ve seen the news stories and heard the rumors. Maybe we ourselves have been hurt by a narcissistic church leader. It’s easy to throw the term around and diagnose others from afar. But what is narcissism, really? And how does it infiltrate the church? Chuck DeGroat has been counseling pastors with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, as well as those woun...
2020-12-15
53 min
Chris Voss Podcast
Chris Voss Podcast – When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse by Chuck DeGroat
When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse by Chuck DeGroat Chuckdegroat.net Why does narcissism seem to thrive in our churches? We’ve seen the news stories and heard the rumors. Maybe we ourselves have been hurt by a narcissistic church leader. It’s easy to throw the term around and diagnose […] The post Chris Voss Podcast – When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse by Chuck DeGroat appeared first on Chris Voss Official Website.
2020-12-15
53 min
Craft & Character
Chuck DeGroat on Narcissism in the Church
In this episode of Craft & Character, Steve Carter interviews Western Theological Seminary pastoral care professor Dr. Chuck DeGroat about narcissism in the local church. Chuck explains the narcissism spectrum and discusses how pastors can demonstrate characteristics that lead to unhealthy and toxic narcissistic actions. This might be the most important Craft & Character podcast to date. If you’re a church or ministry leader, Chuck’s wisdom will help you recognize and combat unhealthy narcissism within yourself, your ministry, and Church culture as a whole. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
2020-12-15
46 min
Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
Interview | Narcissism & the Enneagram with Chuck DeGroat
Greetings all you raging narcissists! In this episode of Fathoms, Drew and the Seths are joined by author, professor, counselor, and spiritual director Dr. Chuck DeGroat. We talk about his book, When Narcissism Comes to Church, which expands our stereotypical notions of narcissistic leaders through the lens of the enneagram. Abram quotes Russ Hudson re: coddling our own narcissism [3:12] The highlight of Chuck’s career [4:02] When Chuck received the enneagram into his heart [6:15] About Chuck’s book, When Narcissism Comes to Church [8:00] Chuck’s definition of narcissism [9:35] On Narcissistic Personality Disorder [11:45] Narcissistic style, type, and disorder [12:40] Narcissi...
2020-12-03
46 min
Poema Podcast
Poema S6 055 | Chuck DeGroat on When Narcissism Comes To Church
Today I'm joined by author, therapist, spiritual director Chuck DeGroat to talk about his work and in particular the themes of his book 'When Narcissism Comes To Church'. Chuck shares from research and experience about narcissistic behaviour and how this has manifested itself in toxic religion, evangelicalism and fundamentalism, how it's almost become an ideal or idol in that world. We then dive into the damaging impact this can have on the church, and indeed the wider world - including the election of a narcissistic President back in 2016. Chuck explores ideas co how we can m...
2020-11-17
40 min
What If Project
Episode 123: Chuck DeGroat Talks To Us About Narcissistic Abuse In The Church
In today's episode we sit down with Chuck DeGroat to talk about his book, "When Narcissism Comes To Church". If you've ever been victimized by a narcissistic leader or authority figure or know someone who has, this episode will provide some clarity and hope. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: What If Project What If Project AfterParty (NEWSLETTER!) Patreon What If Project SWAG What If Project Community Chuck DeGroat When Narcissism Comes To Church Special Music: YUNG CITIZEN I WISH MUSIC VIDEO ...
2020-11-09
51 min
Your Enneagram Coach, the Podcast
Episode 27: Navigating Anxious Times (Part 1) with Chuck DeGroat
In this episode, Beth and Jeff interview Chuck DeGroat (Type 4). He’s an author and a licensed therapist, and he’ll help us tackle a big topic—how to navigate through anxious times. The Enneagram reveals our unique coping strategies, which can look like body sensations, intense emotions, narratives we tell ourselves, or even compulsive thinking. When our coping strategies fail us, we can fall into despair. But we are not alone in our grief. Jesus meets us there. In His care, we find hope and a path forward. Please join us next w...
2020-11-03
56 min
HOPE FOR THE AGORA
EP 6 PASTOR TO PASTOR: When Narcissism Comes to Church Pt. 2 (with Chuck DeGroat)
Allen and Chuck DeGroat have a focused conversation about what narcissism looks like in systems, particularly the church and the pain it causes. Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, Holland MI, and Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco. He is an author (numerous books), speaker, consultant, and therapist. His book, When Narcissism Comes to Church is getting great reviews while the topic is a conversation that has been a long time coming. Grab a copy on Amazon. SUPPORT FOR OUR MINISTRY:Help keep our r...
2020-10-30
25 min
HOPE FOR THE AGORA
EP 5 PASTOR TO PASTOR: When Narcissism Comes to Church (with Chuck DeGroat) Pt. 1
Allen and Chuck DeGroat have a focused conversation about what narcissism looks like in a pastor or church leader. Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, Holland MI, and Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco. He is an author (numerous books), speaker, consultant, and therapist. His book, When Narcissism Comes to Church is getting great reviews while the topic is a conversation that has been a long time coming. SUPPORT FOR OUR MINISTRY:Help keep our radio programming and podcasts going with a donation, either one...
2020-10-30
30 min
Pastor to Pastor
EP#6 When Narcissism Comes to Church PART 2 (with Chuck DeGroat)
Allen and Chuck DeGroat have a focused conversation about what narcissism looks like in systems, particularly the church and the pain it causes. Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, Holland MI, and Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco. He is an author (numerous books), speaker, consultant, and therapist. His book, When Narcissism Comes to Church is getting great reviews while the topic is a conversation that has been a long time coming. Grab a copy on Amazon. SUPPORT FOR OUR MINISTRY:Help keep...
2020-10-30
25 min
Pastor to Pastor
EP#5 When Narcissism Comes to Church (with Chuck DeGroat)
Allen and Chuck DeGroat have a focused conversation about what narcissism looks like in a pastor or church leader. Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, Holland MI, and Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco. He is an author (numerous books), speaker, consultant, and therapist. His book, When Narcissism Comes to Church is getting great reviews while the topic is a conversation that has been a long time coming. SUPPORT FOR OUR MINISTRY:Help keep our radio programming and podcasts going with a donation...
2020-10-29
28 min
The Churchology Podcast
Episode 12: Chuck DeGroat on Narcissism In The Church
Today on the show we are talking to Chuck Degroat. Chuck is a professor of counseling and Christian spirituality at Western Theological Seminary. He is a licensed therapist and spiritual director. He is the author of several books including Leaving Egypt, The Toughest People To Love, Wholeheartedness, Falling Into Goodness, and his latest book, When Narcissism Comes To Church. You can learn more about Chuck at his website and you can connect with him on Twitter. Follow the Churchology Podcast on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. We will be back next Tuesday with a bra...
2020-10-27
49 min
WellSpring SoulCARE
Chuck DeGroat
Our conversation today is with Chuck DeGroat. Chuck is a follower of Jesus, a husband to Sara for 26 years, and father to two amazing daughters.He is Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland MI. He co-founded Newbigin House of Studies in San Francisco where he serves as a Senior Fellow. During his years pastoring, he started two church-based counseling centers. Chuck is an author, having written Leaving Egypt: Finding God in the Wilderness Places, The Toughest People to Love , Wholeheartedness , a Lenten devotional is Falling Into Goodness, and his latest is Wh...
2020-10-26
57 min
Eat for Life
When Narcissism Comes to Church: A Conversation with Chuck DeGroat
Many of us have been touched by narcissism.Up close or from the sidelines, we have experienced its effects from a teacher, our parents, or from the leaders in our lives.Often this narcissism surprises us and comes from the most unexpected of places where we feel safe to let our guard down and allow ourselves to be vulnerable.One of these places is the Church.Typically we don’t relate narcissism to the Church. But, even though it is rarely talked about, narcissism is often experienced in the Church today. Ma...
2020-10-19
37 min
The Stetzer ChurchLeaders Podcast
Chuck DeGroat: How to Recognize Narcissism in a Church Leader
Get notes on this podcast here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast/383829-chuck-degroat-narcissism-church.html "It’s not just the megachurch pastors," says Chuck DeGroat. "There are small church pastors who lead with this grandiosity, these narcissistic characteristics." ► Listen on Apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-churchleaders-podcast/id988990685?mt=2 ► Listen on GooglePlay: https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iycvfoqhkk6saen2hsbjw6yuz24 Connect with ChurchLeaders Online! ChurchLeaders brings you the latest headlines and expert tips on faith, ministry and leading the church. Subscribe to our channel for exclusive content. Visit the ChurchLeaders Website: https://churchleaders.com Find ChurchLeaders on Facebook: https...
2020-10-14
44 min
The Stetzer ChurchLeaders Podcast
Chuck DeGroat: How to Recognize Narcissism in a Church Leader
Get notes on this podcast here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast/383829-chuck-degroat-narcissism-church.html "It's not just the megachurch pastors," says Chuck DeGroat. "There are small church pastors who lead with this grandiosity, these narcissistic characteristics." ► Listen on Apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-churchleaders-podcast/id988990685?mt=2 ► Listen on GooglePlay: https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iycvfoqhkk6saen2hsbjw6yuz24 Connect with ChurchLeaders Online! ChurchLeaders brings you the latest headlines and expert tips on faith, ministry and leading the church. Subscribe to our channel for ex...
2020-10-14
44 min
The Stetzer ChurchLeaders Podcast
Chuck DeGroat: How to Recognize Narcissism in a Church Leader
Get notes on this podcast here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast/383829-chuck-degroat-narcissism-church.html "It's not just the megachurch pastors," says Chuck DeGroat. "There are small church pastors who lead with this grandiosity, these narcissistic characteristics." ► Listen on Apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-churchleaders-podcast/id988990685?mt=2 ► Listen on GooglePlay: https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Iycvfoqhkk6saen2hsbjw6yuz24 Connect with ChurchLeaders Online! ChurchLeaders brings you the latest headlines and expert tips on faith, ministry and leading the church. Subscribe to our channel for ex...
2020-10-14
44 min
Spiritual Life and Leadership
82. Narcissism and Spiritual Leadership, with Chuck DeGroat, author of When Narcissism Comes to Church
Chuck DeGroat has written a fantastic book titled, When Narcissism Comes to Church, which he unpacks for us in this episode.Most of us who are in positions of spiritual leadership have some tendencies toward narcissism. Many of us want to be loved and respected--and sometimes we think of ourselves as pretty awesome.But then there are those who are truly narcissistic, who are so unhealthy that they leave a wake of misery and destruction in their ministries.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care at Western T...
2020-09-29
40 min
Not My Story
Chuck DeGroat
After studying at Oxford, Chuck DeGroat experienced a personal breakdown that led to major changes not only in his career path but also his faith. In episode 11, Chuck recalls his journey from being a man with all the answers to a man who experiences God in the questions. Sarah and Chuck discuss the dangers of chasing prestige and of looking at faith through a dogmatic lens. They talk about parenting, writing, reading, and his most recent book, When Narcissism Comes to Church.For more about Chuck or this episode, check out the show notes at NotMyStoryPod.com.
2020-08-26
37 min
Voice of Influence
When Narcissism Comes to Your Organization with Dr. Chuck DeGroat
Dr. Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary Holland MI, and Co-Founder and a Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco. He is a licensed therapist, author, retreat leader, and spiritual director. Chuck has been married to Sara for 25 years and has two daughters. Chuck is also the author of the new book, When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse. Today we're tackling the subject of narcissism, the systems that allow it, and how to deal with it. This conversation is applicable to...
2020-07-21
49 min
Unhurried Living | Helping Christians Rest Deeper & Lead Better
When Narcissism Comes to Church (Alan with Chuck DeGroat)
We’ve seen the news stories and heard the rumors. Maybe we ourselves have been hurt by a narcissistic church leader. It’s easy to throw the term around and diagnose others from afar—but what is narcissism, really? And how does it infiltrate the church? Chuck DeGroat has been counseling pastors with narcissistic personality disorder, as well as those wounded by narcissistic leaders and systems, for over twenty years. He knows firsthand the devastation narcissism leaves in its wake and how insidious and painful it is. In When Narcissism Comes to Church, DeGroat takes a close...
2020-06-01
27 min
Rethinking Faith
When Narcissism Comes to Church - With Chuck DeGroat
We've all seen the news stories and heard the rumors. Maybe you have been hurt by a narcissistic church leader. It's easy to throw the term around and diagnose others from afar. But what is narcissism, really? And how does it infiltrate the church? This week, Chuck DeGroat joins the conversation. Chuck has been counseling pastors with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, as well as those wounded by narcissistic leaders and systems, for over twenty years. He knows firsthand the devastation narcissism leaves in its wake and how insidious and painful it is. DeGroat helps us to ta...
2020-05-27
1h 01
Monday Morning Pastor
S3E14 - Chuck DeGroat – Narcissism and vulnerability
Doug and J.R. have an important conversation about leadership and narcissism with Chuck DeGroat. If you lead in any capacity, you need to slowly listen, take notes, and pay attention to the emotions and moves that happen within your own soul. Chuck speaks with authority to the inner work of the leader from doing the work himself and leading the research in this area. He has named things that we believe will help equip leaders in their own inner work. Pastors and leaders, we have great responsibility to continue in our journey towards health and wholeness, may the Lord...
2020-04-20
53 min
Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick
Episode 121 - Chuck DeGroat, "The 9 Faces of Narcissism"
“We don’t ever get over ego. Ego is always at work. Are we aware of it so it doesn’t surprise us?” - Chuck DeGroatWe typically think of narcissism manifesting itself as big, loud, and even overtly arrogant. But narcissism can show up in very understated, subtle ways in each Enneagram type. On this edition of Restoring the Soul, Michael John Cusick concludes his conversation with professor and counselor Chuck DeGroat on the ways that narcissism shows up for each Enneagram type.Chuck is uniquely qualified to discuss narcissism as he has been...
2020-04-02
48 min
Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick
Episode 120 - Chuck DeGroat, "When Narcissism Comes to the Church"
“We all swim in the waters of narcissism.” - Chuck DeGroatDid you know there is an epidemic of narcissism in the church? Whether it’s in the pulpit, lurking behind the scenes, or embedded deep within the organizational systems of the church - narcissism is running rampant and needs to be addressed.Today’s podcast will do just that. In fact, the next two episodes deal with narcissism in frank yet hopeful terms as Michael John Cusick spends time with Chuck DeGroat discussing his latest book, When Narcissism Comes to the Church.Chuck is...
2020-03-26
35 min