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Dr. Shawna M. Gann
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Our True Colors
Double Feature Season 5 Finale: Our True Colors at Home
MESSAGE ME HERE!For the first time, I’m joined by my full family—my husband Chad and our kids, Christian and Ariana—in a double-length finale to close out Season 5 of Our True Colors.We get into it all:Identity, hair, and insecuritiesWhat people assume about us as a coupleFamily culture, music, and travelHow our kids make sense of their biracial identityWhat it really means to belongIt’s funny, vulnerable, unscripted—and filled with moments we’ve never shared, even with each other.Let's stay in touch!Shawna on...
2025-07-09
1h 15
Our True Colors
Bloodlines and Borders: Tracing the Truth of Mixed Ancestry with Victoria Kabeya
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this rich and vulnerable episode, Dr. Shawna Gann welcomes Belgian-French author, historian, and researcher Victoria Kabeya to discuss the complexities of multigenerationally mixed identity. From the trauma of slavery to the politics of racial categorization, Victoria shares personal stories, global insights, and the intellectual foundations behind her groundbreaking books. Together, they explore what it means to be Multi-Generationally Mixed—not just biologically, but culturally, historically, and emotionally.Stuff to Check Out:Matriarch by Tina Knowles Mixing: A History of Anti-Miscegenation Laws in the U.S.Fr...
2025-06-17
46 min
Our True Colors
Conversations in Color: From Research to Real Life
MESSAGE ME HERE!This week, Dr. Shawna Gann—joined by her co-host Kat—welcomes Dr. Geoffrey Greif and Victoria Stubbs, LCSW-C, for a thoughtful and timely conversation about interracial and interethnic relationships, raising mixed-race children, and navigating identity across lines of race, culture, and experience.The discussion is rooted in research and real-world insight from their forthcoming book When Family Relations Are Race Relations, and it touches on how societal events press into private life, how couples process racial identity differently, and how families work through tension, silence, and love in the...
2025-06-10
59 min
Our True Colors
Ian Gibbs-Hall on Curiosity Architecture and Rethinking Identity
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode of Our True Colors, Shawna is joined by co-host Rachel Sadler and special guest Ian Gibbs-Hall—a DEI advocate, thought leader, and creator of Curiosity Architecture. With over a decade of experience creating inclusive environments, Ian offers a fresh framework that invites us to move beyond checkboxes and binaries and into deeper, more curious ways of seeing one another.Together, they explore identity, belonging, masculinity, and the limitations of social categories—highlighting how “other” doesn’t just mean different, but often means left out. From coloring books to Frozen 2, neoliberal...
2025-06-03
46 min
Our True Colors
Belonging by Design: How a Choir Became a Home
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this powerful episode of Our True Colors, Dr. Shawna Gann is joined by Cindy Ogasawara and Kara De Maine, leaders in the Resounding Love Interfaith Gospel Choir—a multiracial, interfaith, LGBTQ+ embracing choir grounded in African American musical traditions and active anti-racism practice.Together, they explore:The complexities of racial identity, especially for those with mixed or ambiguous backgroundsWhat it means to be part of a community that doesn’t just sing together—but heals togetherHow they’ve created a choir that holds joy and accountability side by sideThe connection between...
2025-05-27
54 min
Our True Colors
Bridging Identities and Building Belonging: A Conversation with Hallie Pritchett
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode of Our True Colors, Dr. Shawna Gann is joined by Hallie Pritchett — a public health leader, facilitator, and equity strategist — for a deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation about identity, belonging, and the challenges of showing up fully at work. Hallie reflects on growing up mixed-race in the Pacific Northwest, parenting a child who's already navigating complex identity questions, and how her lived experience has shaped her approach to leadership and equity in health systems.Together, Shawna and Hallie explore:The social landscape of race in the Pacific NorthwestRaising chil...
2025-05-15
37 min
Our True Colors
Masks, Mirrors, and Metamorphosis: Londell Jackson on Living Unboxed
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode, Shawna sits down with Londell Jackson—educator, strategist, and author of Between the Opposites—for a powerful conversation about the complexities of identity. From growing up mixed-race in Denver to navigating masculinity as a same-gender-loving Black and Latino man, Londell shares his deeply personal journey of self-discovery, cultural belonging, and emotional growth. Together, they explore themes like authenticity, inherited narratives, and the courage it takes to confront our “shadow self.”Topics Covered:Growing up multiracial and feeling “not enough” for any one groupRedefining masculinity beyond social expectations...
2025-05-07
44 min
Our True Colors
Both/And: Belonging, Identity, and the Bridge-Building Superpower with Annemarie Shrouder
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this rich and candid episode of Our True Colors, Shawna is joined by Rachel, returning co-host and fellow deep thinker and wonderful guest Annemarie Shrouder, international speaker, facilitator, and bestselling author of Being Brown in a Black and White World.Together, they explore what it means to hold a “both/and” identity—especially as mixed-race or multiracial individuals navigating a world obsessed with binaries. Annemarie shares the powerful story behind her personal “aha” moment, the birth of the both/and framework, and the bridge-building superpower that comes with embracing complexity. They also talk...
2025-04-30
47 min
Our True Colors
Ornamental No More: Dr. Kalya Castillo on Identity, Hypervisibility, and Healing
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this powerful conversation, Dr. Kalya Castillo—a Black and Japanese psychologist and trauma-informed therapist—joins Shawna to explore identity, racial ambiguity, and the lived experiences of multiracial individuals. Together, they unpack what it means to grow up without cultural mirrors, the coded messages around hair and professionalism, and how mixed-race identity can shape the way we’re seen, valued, and understood.Kalya shares insights from her research on the hypersexualization of Black and Asian women, and how these dynamics often show up in the workplace and therapeutic settings. She also offers a deep...
2025-04-16
52 min
Our True Colors
Third Culture Stories: Identity, Belonging, and Finding Home with Urmi Hossain
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode, Dr. Shawna Gann and Rachel Sadler sit down with Urmi Hossain—polyglot, author, global citizen, and financial services professional—for a deep conversation about identity, cultural complexity, and belonging. Urmi, who describes herself as "Bengali by blood, Italian by birth, and Canadian by law", shares her experiences as a third culture person navigating family expectations, global transitions, and what it means to truly belong.The three discuss the nuanced layers of culture, race, and language—what it’s like to be misunderstood or misidentified, how appearances influence assumptions, and why stor...
2025-03-27
41 min
Our True Colors
Sensitive Curiosity: A DEI Leader’s Journey with Marcel De Jonghe
MESSAGE ME HERE!What does it mean to navigate the world as a mixed heritage individual when belonging feels just out of reach? In this episode, Shawna and co-host Kat Aragon welcome Marcel De Jonghe, Head of DEI&B for Europe’s largest local authority, to explore identity, belonging, and the intersections of race and culture. Marcel shares his personal journey as a Zimbabwean-Belgian navigating life in the UK, the challenges of being "not quite Black enough" and "not quite White enough," and how his work in equity and inclusion is shaping a more thoughtful, empathetic world. Th...
2025-02-11
55 min
Our True Colors
Finding Self in a World of Assumptions: Multiracial Identity and Belonging
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode, Shawna Gann is joined by graduate student Brieanna Hairston cohost Rachel Sadler. Together, they explore the complexities of racial identity, inclusion, and belonging through the lens of multiracial and racially ambiguous individuals.Brieanna shares personal experiences growing up in a predominantly White area, navigating racial microaggressions from an early age, and finding her place in diverse academic and professional settings. Rachel reflects on the intersection of race, culture, and societal expectations, providing a candid perspective on navigating life as a biracial Black woman. The conversation touches on the effects...
2025-01-14
42 min
Our True Colors
Mixed-Race Parenting: Insights with Dr. Jenn Noble
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this thought-provoking episode, Shawna sits down with Dr. Jenn Noble, psychologist, educator, and advocate for mixed-race families, to discuss the unique challenges and opportunities in parenting mixed-race children. Together, they explore:The nuances of mixed-race identity and how it shapes a child’s experience.Why starting conversations about race with children isn’t as daunting as it seems.How parents’ own experiences can influence their approach to raising mixed-race kids.Practical strategies to help children embrace their full identity while navigating societal complexities.Dr. Jenn shares powerful insights on meeting children where...
2024-12-17
49 min
Our True Colors
Between the Lines: Black Identity, Mixed Race Realities, and a Nation Divided
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this deeply reflective episode of Our True Colors, Shawna and guest Shari Baker dive into the emotional aftermath of the recent presidential election. Together, they unpack the complexities of identity, solidarity, and the nuances of navigating blackness in America. From the broader societal implications of the election to the personal journeys of mixed-race identity, Shawna and Shari offer a thought-provoking and heartfelt conversation about resilience, collective grief, and the power of community. Tune in to explore how we can heal, learn, and move forward—together.Guest Shari Baker, DEIJ strategist and co...
2024-11-27
46 min
Our True Colors
Cafecito, Culture, and Connection: The Power of Sisterhood in DEI Spaces
MESSAGE ME HERE!SummaryIn this engaging conversation, Shawna, Rachel, and Kat introduce Hady Mendez, a DEI expert, who shares her journey and insights on employee resource groups, cultural wisdom, and the challenges of navigating racial identity. The discussion highlights the need for allyship, the evolving understanding of racial categories, and the significance of joy and community support in personal and professional growth.You can also watch the episode on YouTube!TakeawaysMixed race identity is complex and varies greatly among individuals.Self-advocacy is...
2024-11-04
40 min
Our True Colors
Authenticity Under Pressure: The Evolving Role of DEI and Mixed-Race Identity
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this insightful episode, Dr. Shawna Gann sits down with DEI experts Lauren Dike and Katrina Liew Wilson for a candid discussion on the shifting landscape of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). The conversation explores the evolving role of DEI in the workplace, the pressures of being a "talking head" in the field, and the challenges of racial and cultural identity. Lauren and Katrina share their personal journeys navigating mixed-race backgrounds, dealing with imposter syndrome, and embracing authenticity while leading change. They also address the complexity of DEI rebranding, the struggle for collective healing...
2024-10-15
41 min
Our True Colors
Beyond Your Zip Code Story: Exploring Background, Bias, and Growth
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode, Shawna Gann and Rachel Sadler engage with author Christopher "CJ" Gross, an expert in cultural transformation, to discuss the concepts in his book, What's Your Zip Code Story? Together the group discusses implications on personal and professional experiences. They explore how one's background and community can shape perceptions, opportunities, and biases in the workplace. The discussion emphasizes the importance of mentorship, understanding class migration, and the need for a supportive culture that fosters growth and inclusivity, including expanding your zip code story through meeting new people, going to different places, and...
2024-10-01
54 min
Our True Colors
Meet Kat: Creating Spaces for Underrepresented Voices
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode, Shawna Gann introduces the new season of the podcast with one of her two co-hosts, Kat Aragon. They discuss their cultural backgrounds, the importance of representation in the beauty industry, and the need for advocacy and allyship. Kat shares her experiences as a makeup artist and the challenges faced in ensuring diversity in beauty products. The conversation emphasizes the significance of taking action in allyship and the importance of creating spaces for underrepresented voices.You can also watch the episode on YouTube!Other stuff to check...
2024-09-17
35 min
Our True Colors
Meet Rachel: Examining Layers of Racial Identity
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode, Shawna Gann introduces co-host Rachel Sadler, and together they explore the complexities of racial identity, particularly focusing on the experiences of biracial individuals. They discuss the fluidity of identity, the impact of family dynamics on self-identification, and the societal constructs surrounding race and gender. The conversation also gets into the privileges associated with racial ambiguity, the challenges faced in workplace settings, and the increasing recognition of multiracial identities in America. Ultimately, they emphasize the importance of community and the need for critical discussions about identity and privilege. Rachel Sadler is...
2024-09-17
38 min
Our True Colors
Season 5 Launching in September!
Join the conversation — Send a Text Message!Welcome back!Join Dr. Shawna Gann and new co-hosts Kat Aragon and Rachel Sadler for Season 5 of Our True Colors, launching in September! This season, we will continue exploring the unique challenges of being racially ambiguous with personal stories and expert insights on identity, belonging, and diversity. Engage with us by texting your thoughts and stories through the link above, and don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review!Want to be a guest or know someone who should join us? Click this...
2024-08-08
01 min
More Than Words Podcast
CDI Symposium 2022 - Shawna Gann, PhD
Join us on the final episode of #thebigpivot series of the CDI Symposium 2022. Today, we are featuring Shawna Gann, Founder and CEO of True Colors Consulting, LLC and host of the podcast titled Our True Colors. Dr. Shawna Gann effectively blends her expertise in business psychology and education to deliver DEI experiences that help organizations and individuals level up their practices to cultivate environments where employees don’t have to worry about cultural fit and can instead thrive in their workplaces free from worry about their authentic identities. Shawna is skilled and experienced in the de...
2022-12-30
18 min
Our True Colors
Hey, Queen! Talking Racial Ambiguity with Christian Gann and Aimee Amour
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this very special episode, I have a one-to-one real-talk session with my son, Christian Gann and his drag persona, Aimee Amour, who is also a DJ in NYC and music producer. In this episode, Christian is back for his second interview on Our True Colors. If you missed the first interview, you can check it out here. It's linked below, as well. In this episode, Christian talks about his experiences as a multiracial makeup artist and drag queen and shares his perspectives as Aimee. You don't want to miss it!
2022-10-26
43 min
Our True Colors
The Velvet Punch: Talking Transracial Adoption with Amy Daniels (Part 2)
MESSAGE ME HERE!This week we are back with Part 2 of the interview with Amy Daniels. If you missed Part 1, you can check it out here. In this episode, Amy and I continue our conversation about her lived experiences as a Korean woman who was adopted by White parents and what it's meant moving through spaces where people around you have certain expectations about your identity. We talk about her experiences dating, the "Guest Pass", and even the importance of names. For Further ExplorationThe Color of WhitenessThe Problem with ‘People of Co...
2022-10-19
26 min
Our True Colors
The Velvet Punch: Talking Transracial Adoption with Amy Daniels (Part 1)
MESSAGE ME HERE!This episode is the first of a 2-part interview with my friend, Amy Daniels. I'd been wanting to interview her for a couple of years now, and she happened to be hanging out my place when we were like...let's do this! Amy is a superstar recruiter in the management consulting industry in the DC Metro area - sometimes called the "DMV" since it encompasses parts of Washington DC, Maryland, and Virginia. In this first part of her interview, Amy talks about navigating situations when people make assumptions about her identity, particularly...
2022-10-12
31 min
Our True Colors
Confronting Anti-Blackness with Daniel Washington
MESSAGE ME HERE!Daniel Washington is an I/O Psychology Master's graduate with a passion for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. He was born in New York City but raised in Atlanta, GA and moved back to New York City in August of 2018 to further his education in I/O Psychology. I received my Master's from Touro College in the summer of 2020. He is now I'm working towards furthering my career in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.In this episode, Daniel talks with me about his identity journey and the way he has been working to confront...
2022-09-19
35 min
Our True Colors
SPECIAL EPISODE: The Little Mermaid of Color
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this special episode of Our True Colors, Yolandie and I discuss Disney's new live action Little Mermaid, starring Halle Bailey as Ariel. Join us for this important conversation about social expectations and redefining norms.REFERENCESThe Little Mermaid TrailerAI Technology Making Little Mermaid WhiteCharlotte La Bouff - "Man Catchin' Beignets"Racists Are Worried About the Historical Accuracy of MermaidsRELATED ARTICLES
2022-09-19
31 min
Checkbox Other with Nikki Innocent
Shining a Light on the Racially Ambiguous Experience with Shawna Gann
Multiracial people make up the fastest growing demographic in the United States but there’s little research that’s been done to understand the unique dynamics of living in the inbetween in a society that has for so long been segmented by race. In this episode, Shawna Gann, certified diversity professional and PhD candidate joins Nikki to talk about the importance of creating space for deeper understanding of the multiracial experience and Shawna’s pioneering research around the experience of Black multinational women in the workplace. They discuss how Shawna’s lived experience of growing up in Alaska and her life...
2022-09-13
1h 13
The Book Stoop
Shawna Gann: True Colors Consulting, Organizational Fairness, and Leading with Intention
As a Certified Diversity Professional and Scholar-Practitioner, Shawna Gann successfully marries business psychology, learning theory, and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) principles to support organizations as they advance DEI practices in the workplace and in everyday social situations. Though she works with employees at all levels of an organization supporting the many dimensions of diversity, she specializes in racial ambiguity, authenticity, and belonging. Through her world travels, Shawna has immersed herself in global and social culture granting a fresh perspective and the ability to think broadly, which has augmented her work as an effective and impactful consultant, educator...
2022-09-06
30 min
Our True Colors
Settings and Social Identity with Guest Ashnie Butler
MESSAGE ME HERE!After a bit of a summer break, Yolandie and I are back with our guest Ashnie Butler. Ashnie's story starts on the island of Trinidad with roots going back to Southern India. She has lived on the east and west coast of the United States, currently residing in Portland, Oregon, with her non-binary teenager. Her passion for cooking took her to culinary school and started her journey of learning about cultures and people through their food. Once Ashnie completed her B.A. in American Multicultural Studies, she began seeking to affect change through economic...
2022-09-05
46 min
Our True Colors
Kickin' It with Karlton Hoskins
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode of Our True Colors, we welcome Karlton Hoskins, #1 International Best Selling Author, Business Owner, Real Estate Investor, and Strategist. In this episode we talk about business and go all the way back to roots. Do NOT miss this fascinating conversation that takes us around the world and back in time.Resources related to the convo:What Became of the Taíno?From Acadian to CajunThe Creole Community in The United States of America, a storyWhat's the difference between Cajun and Creole—or is there one?I...
2022-08-04
48 min
Our True Colors
3rd Culture Empathy with Payal Beri
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this fantastic episode with Payal Beri, we discuss what it's like living abroad for an extended amount of time as 3rd Culture folks. Along the way we talk about how this has equipped us to be empathetic and applying these life lessons to what we do every day. Come along for the ride!If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram and find Season 5 episodes on
2022-07-14
33 min
Our True Colors
Convos with Sandra Hunter: Stealth Aunties and Metaphorical Changing Rooms
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this intriguing episode of Our True Colors, Sandra Hunter joins us to talk about her work with Wild Women Leaders of Colour and shares her own experiences of identity and "herstory". Together we talk about leaning on each other...and our ancestors...for support as we as women of color navigate space historically dominated by white men.Resources related to the convo:How a Lack of Sponsorship Keeps Black Women Out of the C-SuiteSista, Sista: How A Mentor Can Be The Key To Advancing Your CareerBattling...
2022-07-06
42 min
Our True Colors
SPECIAL EPISODE: World v. Wade - Discourse about the Threat to Human Autonomy
MESSAGE ME HERE!I am so happy to welcome back Season 3 Cohost, Carmen Watson, to talk with me about the news of the US Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade. I wanted to know her thoughts and perspectives as a Canadian and understand what conversations are happening among our neighbors to the north. Join us for this special episode as we discuss this incredibly impactful Supreme Court decision. Resources to Check OutWoman Whose Conception Sparked Roe v. Wade Case Breaks Silence: 'I'm Keeping a Secret but I Hate It'If Clarence Thomas...
2022-07-05
35 min
Our True Colors
You Know What They Say About Making Assumptions...Discussion with Rahimeh Ramezany
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode, we talk with Rahimeh Ramezany about identity and making assumptions about who people are and what their lived experiences must be. Rahimeh is a Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Intercultural Specialist, whose work is focused on addressing the experiences of marginalized ethnic, racial, and religious communities in the United States, in order to create change on individual, interpersonal, and systemic levels. Rahimeh has a Master's degree in Intercultural Communication from San Jose State University, and has worked at multiple DEI-focused nonprofits and consulting firms.If this is your first...
2022-06-30
37 min
Our True Colors
Work-Life Harmony with Ruthie Bowles
MESSAGE ME HERE!Ruthie Bowles is a US Army Veteran, mom to four kids, and lives in Maryland with her family, goats, and chickens. She focuses on bringing awareness to the unethical tactics and strategies in the small business coaching and consulting industry. Ruthie is also an audiobook narrator.She joins OTC this episode to talk about the difference between work-life balance and work-life harmony. Too often we try to juggle everything all at once rather than looking for how we can do some ebb and flow. Ruthie also talks with us in this episode...
2022-06-23
39 min
Our True Colors
Black in Bali: Adventures with Twanette Barrett
Join the conversation — Send a Text Message!Join Yolandie and me this week as we chat with my wonderful friend, Twanette Barrett. She is a retired army vet and now a life coach living in Bali, Indonesia.Want to be a guest or know someone who should join us? Click this link to complete the guest interest form.Don't forget to subscribe and follow us on Instagram and new for Season 5, check us out on and YouTube and keep up with True Culture on LinkedIn. ...
2022-06-09
34 min
Our True Colors
Caught Between Worlds with Dr. Christopher Riddick
MESSAGE ME HERE!While Washington, DC is the city where he resides, Dr. Christopher Riddickis a proud son of North Carolina and hails from the rural county of Gates. His upbringing was significant in shaping his identity and fuels many of his passions today. Dr. Riddick is intent on helping organizations truly exhibit what they frequently say but are often challenged to demonstrate: that people are their most valuable assets. Dr. Riddick is a devoted husband and father of three. He is a lover of music, bacon, and bourbon and enjoys quality time with friends...
2022-05-26
34 min
Our True Colors
Identity Beyond Chapter Titles with Katrina Strohl
MESSAGE ME HERE!Katrina Strohl (they/them) served as an Aviation Structural Mechanic in the US Navy. In 2018, Katrina decided to take their own life after internalizing the behavior of an unsafe workplace. They now serve others through their work in psychological safety, mental health and boundary strategy for people who share their identities or their lived experiences.This work includes Absolutely Not!, the weekly live podcast dedicated to providing examples of setting personal boundaries at work and the vocabulary needed to name harm in those spaces. Katrina is Black, Sāmoan and Queer and l...
2022-05-19
33 min
Our True Colors
Welcome to Season 4 - Meet Yolandie!
MESSAGE ME HERE!Welcome to Season 4 of Our True Colors! I am happy to introduce my co-host for this season, Yolandie Hamilton. She'll be hangin' with us for the season, so get to know a little bit about her in this episode.Yolandie Hamilton is a personal style and confidence coach, mom and proud to be the very interesting mix of Jamaica and Poland, with a lot of other stuff in there. She is passionate about giving women back to themselves through style and connecting with others to learn what they are passionate about. She...
2022-05-12
35 min
Our True Colors
Another "Mixed" Tape: Wrapping up Season 3
MESSAGE ME HERE!Join Carmen and me as we talk about our experiences, what we've learned, and the takeaways from Season 3.If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram and find Season 5 episodes on YouTube.Our True Colors is powered by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. Head to our website to find out how True Culture Coaching and Consulting can...
2021-05-06
33 min
Our True Colors
Revisiting Intersectionality with Stefanie Kurgatt
MESSAGE ME HERE!Our guest this week is Stefanie Kurgatt. Stefanie was born in Eldoret, Kenya but moved to the states at a young age and most of her childhood was spent in Tallahassee, Fl. She attended Georgetown University, where she earned her B.S. in Healthcare Management/Policy and M.S. in Health Systems Administration. She holds a great interest in health disparities, community health, and social determinants of health and strives to increase access to care for the underserved. In her spare time, Stefanie loves to workout, go on runs and bike rides around DC...
2021-04-16
35 min
Our True Colors
The Liberation of Self-Love and Authenticity with Dr. Charletta Wilson
MESSAGE ME HERE!Dr. Charletta Wilson is an industrial & organizational psychologist, an International Coaching Federation (ICF) Certified Professional Coach, Global Team Coach, TEDx Speaker and Certified Dare to Lead™ Facilitator at CaPeesh Consulting LLC. For over two decades, she’s served thousands of clients in business startups, leadership and organizational development. In our interview, Dr. Wilson shares stories of how she was introduced to colorism and how it parlayed with stories of not being good enough. With this talk, she is able to put language to hard experiences that may, otherwise, go unnoticed in our everyday biases.
2021-04-08
45 min
Our True Colors
Mixed History with Haley and Megan
MESSAGE ME HERE!Haley and Megan are sisters who grew up in rural Louisiana. Haley is now a school psychologist working in South Louisiana. Megan lives in New Orleans and works in the film industry. These sisters love history and started making a list of historical figures who were mixed race a few year ago. Two years ago they decided to turn their list into a blog. Since then they’ve been adding more people to the list and sharing blog or Instagram posts about them. Some of the people on the list are well known historical fi...
2021-03-25
34 min
Our True Colors
Sticks and Stones Reboot: Stop the Violence!
Join the conversation — Send a Text Message!In light of the continued violence against Asian communities around the US and, indeed, around the world; and in an effort to bring renewed awareness, I am bringing back an episode from earlier this year.Daniel Quan-Watson, a high-ranking official in Canada's Public Service, has a unique blend of experiences. He's held the highest Canadian civil service position, is fluent in both English and French, has lived in 13 Canadian locations, traveled extensively across the country, authored long-lasting legislation, overseen a prominent National Parks system, and contributed to shaping Ca...
2021-03-18
58 min
Our True Colors
"Calling In" with Nikki Innocent
MESSAGE ME HERE!My guest this week is Nikki Innocent. Nikki is a 2-time TEDx speaker, certified women’s leadership coach, diversity, equity & inclusion (DEI) strategist and the host of the podcast Checkbox Other, that focuses on the journey toward belonging. Five years ago, Nikki left behind her career in corporate America to live and lead fully as herself focusing on belonging, releasing the pressure to “fit in” and embracing the ways she differed as a creative, biracial, Millennial woman. Nikki’s work focuses on fostering a new generation of leaders looking to leverage their unique po...
2021-03-11
38 min
Our True Colors
Dr. Shantel Buggs on Dating, Technology, and What's to Come for DEI
MESSAGE ME HERE!My guest this week is Dr. Shantel Gabrieal Buggs. Dr. Buggs is an assistant professor of sociology and African American studies at Florida State University, specializing in research on multiracial identity, representation, and romantic, sexual, and family relationships. She is currently working on an edited collection of essays on "queering" consent for LGBTQ people in the #MeToo era and her first monograph on the online dating experiences of multiracial women in Central Texas. She's also collaborating on several other projects exploring race, gender, and inequality within higher education.Her primary research agenda...
2021-03-04
48 min
Our True Colors
Mixed Up School Daze - Talking Then and Now with Maris Lidaka
MESSAGE ME HERE!Maris Lidaka is a filmmaker in Los Angeles and the creator of the Blended Future Project. Maris talks with me about his experience growing up mixed both in a mostly white suburb but also abroad in high school. This experience allowed him to gain some perspective on race and who he is.If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram and find Season 5 episodes on ...
2021-02-24
46 min
Our True Colors
Discovering and Embracing Purpose with Natalie Forest
MESSAGE ME HERE!Natalie Forest, Ph.D. an intuitive transformational Mentor with a background in history and teaching. She is a teacher inside and out in all she does. She helps people going through a "midlife crisis" reconnect with their own unique self through addressing "the Hidden Power of Patterns" so that they can finally live their lives, their way. Natalie is from Germany, studies U.S. and "USSR" history to become an experts in issues relating to equality in the U.S. through her studies of history, humanities, psychology and life - transferring skills...
2021-02-18
39 min
Our True Colors
Making a Space for Mixed-ness with Life Coach Sarah Lotus Barrett
MESSAGE ME HERE!Sarah Lotus Garrett is a life coach working with mixed adults and monoracial parents of mixed children. She was born and raised in northern California and has lived in Northern Italy for the past 15 years. She is a woman, daughter, sister, mother, wife, auntie, friend, world citizen, chef, gardener, creator of beautiful things, a napper, and a joy seeker.You can check out her work on her Mixed Bloom Room site, where can also learn about her courses. Don't forget to follow her on Instagram, too!P.S. You can...
2021-02-03
48 min
Our True Colors
Unwrapping the Gift of Dialogue: Race Talk with Meredith and Cindy
MESSAGE ME HERE!How was the topic of race handled in your household? Something you've always discussed or an area that typically went untouched? Meredith and Cindy Palomo are a couple living in the Kansas City area. They recently paused a three-year endeavor as foster parents. They're lucky to have three amazing daughters, aged 20, 17, and 3. They have a passion for sharing what they know about trauma-informed care, and have a deep belief that every child deserves to grow up with a connection to their roots, biological and otherwise.Meredith Palomo and Lauren Wiggins a...
2021-01-28
38 min
Our True Colors
This Land is Our Land: A Message as we Observe Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s Birthday
MESSAGE ME HERE!If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram and find Season 5 episodes on YouTube.Our True Colors is powered by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. Head to our website to find out how True Culture Coaching and Consulting can support you and your organization, and subscribe to our LinkedIn Newsletter, The Culture Clinic, for more great content...
2021-01-18
11 min
Our True Colors
Sticks and Stones: Discussing Micro (and Macro!) Aggressions with Daniel Quan-Watson
MESSAGE ME HERE!Daniel Quan-Watson, a high-ranking official in Canada's Public Service, has a unique blend of experiences. He's held the highest Canadian civil service position, is fluent in both English and French, has lived in 13 Canadian locations, traveled extensively across the country, authored long-lasting legislation, overseen a prominent National Parks system, and contributed to shaping Canada's responses to critical issues. Notably, he's the first Deputy Minister of Chinese-Canadian heritage in the federal government, akin to a US Undersecretary.Mr. Quan-Watson, a diverse heritage, discusses his response to Rex Murphy's article on racism in Canada...
2021-01-10
56 min
Our True Colors
Unicorns, Inclusion, and Mrs. Tennessee
MESSAGE ME HERE!I had the pleasure to welcome the reigning Mrs. Tennessee for 2020 - 2021, Mrs. LaFaye Noel. Not only is LaFaye active in her community and beyond, she speaks of intersectionality, self-esteem, and skills to bring confidence to just about any situation with the wisdom of a mother of four, educator, and a shining example of diversity, equity, and inclusion advocating for minorities through her platform “Unicorns: We Belong!”.LaFaye Noel began competing as a teen and now steps into a new division. She’s served as a coach, contestant, and even a pageant mom. Af...
2021-01-06
42 min
Our True Colors
Kickin' it with Katie Andresen from Mixed Kid Chronicles
MESSAGE ME HERE!Katie Andresen is the host & producer of Mixed Kid Chronicles, a podcast for the mixed up and mixed race. This week my guest is Podcaster Katie Andresen, the creator and host of Mixed Kid Chronicles. She shares her identity story and what it’s been like as a podcaster talking with others. In this Episode we talk about “otherness” overseas and general experiences of being racially ambiguous. Carmen weighs in, too - don’t miss it!If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE fo...
2020-12-16
55 min
Our True Colors
The Coaching Connection: Removing the Stigma of Counseling w/ Guest Brittany George
MESSAGE ME HERE!My guest this week is life coach and counselor, Brittany George. Brittany was born and raised in Vancouver, Canada and is the founder of Mixed Mental Health. She focuses on identity alignment and building confidence and community. Mixed men and women can find relatable content on her site about what it is liked to be mixed and how your mental health is affected by what we experience.In this episode, Brittany talks a little bit about her program for women, but also shares a bit of her story, even as she continues h...
2020-12-03
58 min
Our True Colors
Mixed Heritage and CHamoru Culture with Rara Imler
MESSAGE ME HERE!Rara Imler is a native CHamoru born and raised on Guam. She is a comedian, writer, actor, and adult entertainer based out of Atlanta, Georgia. She has joined me on the show to discuss what it means to be a mixed-race Islander and the difficulties experienced when trying to assimilate and be fully accepted into one's respective culture(s). In this interview, she describes this phenomenon as not being unique when experiencing life on the island, but that it can impact Americans in the continental U.S. as well. You can catch up with R...
2020-11-18
42 min
Our True Colors
SPECIAL EPISODE: Election Reaction with the Hosts of OTC
MESSAGE ME HERE!Hang with me and my cohosts from Seasons 1 through 3 in this special episode as we discuss our reaction to the US Presidential Election. Shannon Edwards (Season 1), Jason Mitchum (Season 2), and Carmen Watson (Season 3) join me to talk about our perspectives, our hopes, and our disappointments. Carmen, who is Canadian, gives us her viewpoints as a neighbor from the north. Be safe everyone, and don't forget to join the community on Instagram and Facebook. You can join the FB group to discuss all the goings on in the world of racial ambiguity.
2020-11-10
47 min
Our True Colors
Decision 2020: Discussing the Presidential Election with April Powers
MESSAGE ME HERE!The time has arrived. Election Day in America is here. With me to discuss the significance of this election, the very fulcrum of the future direction of America, is my guest, April Powers.April is the Managing Director of First Impression Rx, a full service consulting firm that helps fortune 500, nonprofits, and government agencies manage differences through training and diversity and inclusion strategy. She is also the Chief Equity & Inclusion Officer for the Society of Children’s Book Writers & Illustrators. Prior to this, she led inclusion efforts at NestléUSA as well as...
2020-11-02
52 min
Our True Colors
Blasian Experiences: A Chat with the Cast of Blasian Narratives
MESSAGE ME HERE!This week I am joined by the cast of Blasian Narratives Vol. I. Some have gone on to take on a diverse range of endeavors but this project continues to connect them. It has been five years since Volume 1, and now the group is back together to discuss their perspectives on being Black and Asian.Visit blasianproject.org/ for more about the Blasian Project and follow them on Instagram.If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background o...
2020-10-21
48 min
Our True Colors
Unpacking Racial Trauma with Guest Therese Kempf
MESSAGE ME HERE!This week my guest is Therese Kempf, who is a therapist in NYC. She specializes in working with trauma and couples, and has a unique focus in working with Racism as Trauma. Therese is also a body based therapist (Sensorimotor Psychotherapy) and helps her clients see the body as a main source of information as well as a primary channel for healing. She has also been featured in a short film called The Devolution of Love, where she is a couples therapist discussing the nuances of dating in the Tinder culture today. She was...
2020-10-14
51 min
Our True Colors
Intersectional Dimensions: Disability Awareness with Guest Zakiya Mabery
MESSAGE ME HERE!I am happy to welcome Zakiya Mabery CEO of B Global Diversity Inclusion Strategic Planning. In this episode of Our True Colors, Zakiya talks with me about the intersections of being a black woman with disabilities. Zakiya is active in the world of diversity and inclusion (D&I) and her new book, Diversity and Inclusion in the Age of COVID, will be available for pre-sale at the end of October, in which she has sound advice for executives navigating the world of DEI.If this is your first time with OTC, c...
2020-10-07
46 min
Our True Colors
Wanda Booth: A Mother's Love
MESSAGE ME HERE!Wanda Booth is a business strategist helping the Million Dollar Business Divas achieve financial freedom and purpose in their online business. She also served 25 years in the US Army where conversations of race, diversity, and equal opportunity are often discussed. Wanda currently lives in Kansas raising her three children to understand their true selves.In this episode, she talks with me about her experiences as a black woman raising her multiracial children and her efforts to shield them from the racist hurt that she experienced in her younger years....
2020-09-30
57 min
Our True Colors
Life in Film with Richard Pierre
MESSAGE ME HERE!Richard Pierre is a filmmaker who was born in the US but is currently living in Toronto, Canada. He joins me to talk about his experiences that led him down the path to film-making and also talks about the day that he became black. Don't miss this episode as we dive deep into the nuances of race and culture and the power of seeing oneself reflected on-screen. Films like What Are You are and added importance when created by mixed folks.Check out WhatAreYouFilm.com to learn more about Richard's films and...
2020-09-23
48 min
Our True Colors
Talking Transitional Justice with Joshua Grant
MESSAGE ME HERE!Joshua Grant, a researcher working with the Transitional Justice Resource Center in Kosovo, talks with me about his studies in transitional justice. He is passionate about issues of race in international relations as well as what is happening in the US. In this conversation, we compare recent and historical events in the context of what we are experiencing in America and around the world today. Below are some resources to get you started on your own research surrounding these topics:History of Policing in Americahttps://www...
2020-09-16
52 min
Our True Colors
An Identity Journey with Cedric "SkyCedi" Stout
MESSAGE ME HERE!Cedric Stout is with Carmen and me for this second episode of the season. Cedric, aka Skycedi, is from the United States but is currently living in Seoul, South Korea. He is a filmmaker, photographer, and YouTuber. In this conversation, Cedric talks about what is was like growing up being half-Korean and half-Black. He walks us through the various stages of his identity journey, helping us to further appreciate the goodness and beauty in being multicultural. Check out Skycedi on YouTube to learn more about him and what he's up...
2020-09-09
45 min
Our True Colors
Welcome to Season 3 - Meet Carmen!
MESSAGE ME HERE!Welcome to Season 3 of Our True Colors! I would also like to welcome my co-host for this season, Carmen Watson! She was a guest in Season 2 - I encourage you to go back and check out her episode if you haven't already heard it. This first episode of the season further introduces you to Carmen.If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram and find Season 5 episodes...
2020-09-09
38 min
The Shift
The Young American Dream: New Career Switch (Feat. Shawna Gann)
Imagine doing something for years that you’ve been trained in, perhaps something you may even have your degree in, and then suddenly there’s a shift when you decide it’s time to switch. Switch to something new that you’ve never done before and start a new career. Join your host, J. Camille, and this week's special guest, fellow podcaster, Shawna Gann as they add to the previous episode's topic and discuss the shift that takes place when switching to a new career. Shawna Gann hails from Anchorage, Alaska but has lived and traveled around t...
2020-08-27
40 min
Our True Colors
That's a Wrap! Season 2 Mixed Tape
MESSAGE ME HERE!Jason and I close out the season talking about the experiences we had and the topics covered. Be sure to subscribe or follow so you don't miss the start of Season 3!If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram and find Season 5 episodes on YouTube.Our True Colors is powered by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. Head to...
2020-08-05
21 min
Our True Colors
I'm Gumbo, Baby! - An Exploration of Creole Culture and Identity
MESSAGE ME HERE!Why should you make red beans and rice on Mondays?How did okra make it to the US?As we near the end of the second season, Jason and I take the opportunity to chat with our Aunties and learn about these Creole facts and more! Listen in to this warm, heartfelt convo with Aunt Bianca and Aunt Daphne and immerse yourself in all that is lagniappe. We round out this season's theme of family as we continue our journey in identity as we embrace family, food, and creole culture...
2020-07-29
55 min
Our True Colors
Good Vibes Family Reunion: Finding Family with Carmen Watson and Rebecca Godard
MESSAGE ME HERE!Welcome back to part two of a fantastic reunion story. Join me with my guest Carmen Watson and her cousin, Rebecca Godard, as they discuss their families sweet story of rediscovery. Check out Rebecca's story from a previous episode here. and if you missed part one, you can find it here. Enjoy!If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on In...
2020-07-14
37 min
Our True Colors
Reshaping an Identity with Guest Carmen Watson
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode I chat with my guest, Carmen Watson, about her journey of self-identity. Carmen is Chinese and white and grew up just about all over Canada, in places like British Columbia (BC), Alberta, Saskatchewan, Ontario, Quebec, and the Northwest Territories. She moved back to British Columbia in 2014, to start university in Vancouver. She holds a BA in History (Honors) and International Relations from the University of British Columbia, with a focus on decolonization (see her recommended reading list below).It wasn't until she was attending university that she actually accepted t...
2020-07-03
47 min
Our True Colors
Sounds Perfect: An Interview with Ashley Boren
MESSAGE ME HERE!Join me this week as I interview author Ashley Boren. We discuss her new book Sounds Perfect and the growth of the two main characters, Kat and Stella. Kat and Stella, both multiracial with Mexican and White ethnic backgrounds, have completely different life experiences. Ashley and I also discuss how people with differing perspectives navigate today's social climate.Ashley is from San Diego, CA and she's a recent graduate from the University of California, Santa Barbara, where she studied communication and professional writing. She is also a recipient of the University Service...
2020-06-25
26 min
Our True Colors
A Bonus Pop-isode: Conversations with my Dad
MESSAGE ME HERE!This week I am sharing another bonus episode - a Father's Day special! Hang with my dad and me for this Pop-isode where we talk about coffee, current events, and classics. You'll even catch my mom's cameo if you listen carefully. 😄Enjoy!If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram and find Season 5 episodes on YouTube.Our Tru...
2020-06-21
42 min
Our True Colors
Intersecting Communities: BLM and Pride
MESSAGE ME HERE!This week we take a look at how two marginalized communities come together at an intersection. I have this discussion with my guest this week, my son Christian Gann. Together we discuss his experiences being multiracial, what it's like being a member of the black community and the LGBT community, and the challenges that come with it. Be sure to listen all the way through to check out new music by Kidd and Queen with the release "Weight on Me".Below I have listed lots of resources for topics references...
2020-06-18
59 min
Our True Colors
Power, Privilege, and the Roles We Play
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode, I joined Ku'ulani Keohokalole for her webinar to talk about the recent events that have resurfaced blatant issues of racist-driven actions against communities of color the roles that each of us plays when it comes to addressing and acting on solutions to these issues. REFERENCESHealthcare Disparitieshttps://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-we-fail-black-patients-painhttps://www.oprahmag.com/life/health/a23100351/racial-bias-in-healthcare-black-women/Disparities in Educationhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/j...
2020-06-10
53 min
Our True Colors
The Realities (and Fantasies) of Racial Identity with Jamie Keener
MESSAGE ME HERE!Jason is back with me this week to talk with me about my interview with Jamie Keener, a student earning her masters degree in medieval English literature at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign. Jamie examines medieval race in texts surrounding Faerie and part-elf, part-human individuals. Her interest in the development of racial identity emerged from her own experiences growing up as a mixed race and third culture kid in both China and the United States. Join us as we talk about racial identity in the context of her personal experiences and her...
2020-06-10
47 min
Our True Colors
We Can't Breathe, America! Dialogues for Change
MESSAGE ME HERE!Words cannot describe the struggle we are facing in America right now - a struggle that stems from America's original sin of racism. We are witnessing protesters take to the street all around the US and others around the world taking a stand against the injustices demonstrated daily again people of color - particularly black Americans. This brings so many confusing emotions and thoughts of uncertainty as we begin to see ourselves and each other through different lenses.This week I am joined by Dr. Anita Foeman and her husband, Nate Terrell...
2020-06-01
56 min
Our True Colors
🎵 We Are Family: Sibs Talk with Jason and Titia
MESSAGE ME HERE!What a fun episode this is! I am opening up a little more of my world to you and introducing my younger sister, Titia! You may know that my co-host, Jason, is my older brother, but now with this episode, we are bringing our little sis into the mix. The best part? This is the first time that the three of us have been together on the same call. We haven't all been in the same room together yet, but the day will come.Enjoy!If this is your...
2020-05-24
44 min
Our True Colors
Perceptions and Belonging with Dr. Jacqueline M. Chen
MESSAGE ME HERE!At the time we recorded this episode, Dr. Jacqueline Chen (Jackie) was an Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Utah. She is a California native now living and working in Salt Lake City. Dr. Jacqueline M. Chen is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Utah. A California native, she now lives and works in Salt Lake City. The majority of her research focuses on understanding how monoracial people (White Americans, Asian Americans, Black Americans) perceive and view multiracial individuals, specifically whether they are likely to view multiracial people as...
2020-05-17
45 min
Our True Colors
Conversations with My Mom
MESSAGE ME HERE!On this Mother's Day edition of Our True Colors, you get a sneak peak into a mother-daughter convo. Make sure you wish a happy Mother's Day to all the moms in your life!If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram and find Season 5 episodes on YouTube.Our True Colors is powered by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. ...
2020-05-10
31 min
Our True Colors
Identity Validity and Online Spaces - Interview with Rebecca Godard
MESSAGE ME HERE!Rebecca Godard is a graduate student at the University of British Columbia. She studies stigma and social support, particularly as it pertains to online communities and other forms of computer-mediated communication. In this episode she discusses the importance of her Chinese heritage, especially having spent some of her formative childhood years living in China. We talk about her experiences as a multiracial person who often passes as white, especially to white people.Rebecca is in the process of working on her study and will soon need participants for a survey. Write to...
2020-05-03
31 min
Our True Colors
Processing COVID-19: A Minisode
Send us a textJason and I check in with a minisode during this strange world of COVID-19. No heavy topics this week - just a time to talk over our Coronavirus experiences. We talk about our own experience staying home, acknowledging that we are are together even when alone."🎵 Things look so bad everywhere 🎵", but we know there is hope, y'all! Hang in there, everyone! Stay home to stay safe!Special thanks to the Ndlovu Youth Choir for granting me permission to include your feel-good vibes when we all need some uplifting music o...
2020-04-26
24 min
Our True Colors
Celebrating the Military Child with Michaela Nee
MESSAGE ME HERE!April is the month of the military child, and my guest this week talks about her unique experiences and how they have led her down the path of being an advocate for others. Michaela currently lives in San Francisco living & working in San Francisco and is working for a study abroad nonprofit bringing college & graduate students from US and international universities to the Bay Area for internships. Her education is in international studies & French, and she has a Masters in Nonprofit Administration. She grew up as a mixed kid in a military f...
2020-04-20
42 min
Our True Colors
Island Identity: An Interview with Dr. Chanel Meyers
MESSAGE ME HERE!I had the distinct pleasure of chatting with Dr. Chanel Meyers, who at the time of this recording, was currently a Postdoctoral Scholar at York University. In this episode, she shares her fascinating story of her personal journey of multiracial identity as it applied in the various settings where she has lived and how it influenced her professional life, as well. Is she white? Asian? Both? Check out this episode to learn more!Referenced in this Episode:White Man's Burden (1995 Film)"Haole" Who Get's to be "Hapa"? (NPR)The H...
2020-04-06
40 min
Our True Colors
Comparing Nature to How We Nurture: Who do you Value in Times of Crisis?
MESSAGE ME HERE!Just about everyone around the world has been impacted by COVID-19. Are we able to suppress our selfish human tendencies and look out for others. This crisis of this coronavirus will pass but there will be other crises of nature, just as there has been in the past. Ask yourself: who am I valuing? Listen in on this convo as Jason and I discuss this with return guest, Sarah Bacerra. Sarah Bacerra is an inclusion advocate, speaker, and activist in San Diego, CA. She has spent much of...
2020-03-29
45 min
Our True Colors
Privilege and Power (of Words)
MESSAGE ME HERE!Join Jason and me as we discuss my time with my guest, Tahishia Powell. We continue the conversation about the appropriation of terms, specifically the word "tribe", but the conversation takes a turn and we discuss privilege. Tahishia is the co-author of the Facebook Page Mixed Messages which is dedicated to combating racist behavior as well addressing the biases and problematic behavior in the biracial community. Their goal is to also uplift the voices of the communities of color that tend to get washed out by white supremacy. You should definitely check it out!
2020-03-24
45 min
Our True Colors
What's In A Name? The Story Behind the Switch to "Our True Colors"
MESSAGE ME HERE!We all know words matter. Words have power - there's no doubting that. But...where is the line between what we want words to mean and what the words mean to others? Join Jason and me this week as we welcome Andrew and Lisa and we discuss our thoughts on this issue and how it relates the change of the shows title from Tribe and True to Our True Colors.This episode features Lisa Woolfork, the creator of Black Women Stitch, the sewing group where black lives matter. She is the host...
2020-03-08
52 min
Our True Colors
Meet Jason!
MESSAGE ME HERE!Welcome to Season Two, Y'all! So happy to be back and thrilled to introduce my co-host for the season, Jason Mitchum. Jason is my big brother and here to chat all things OTC with a focus on family as the theme in this second season.In this first episode of the season we talk about our personal experiences of racial ambiguity and also the coolness of slippers!If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the...
2020-03-01
25 min
Our True Colors
Talking H & M: Race and Royalty - Not Particularly Fashionable
MESSAGE ME HERE!In the final episode of the season, Shannon and Shawna discuss the predicament of the beloved prince and princess of Sussex. Harry and Meghan (H & M) may no longer be addressed with their royal titles, but this is of their own volition. In an effort to escape the craziness of publicity and tabloids, the royals have decided to take a step back from their roles. Was the move in reaction to a racial backlash? We discuss this and how it applies to us who are not royal. If this is your f...
2020-01-30
22 min
Our True Colors
Don't Deny Me!
MESSAGE ME HERE!Analia Albuja is a PhD candidate in social psychology at Rutgers University who joins me to talk about her academic research, which explores the identity denial and identity questioning experiences of biracial and bicultural people. She has studied how frequently these experiences happen, how people interpret them, and the associated psychological outcomes that come as a result. If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram a...
2020-01-20
44 min
Our True Colors
Growing Up Ambiguously - Across the Generations
MESSAGE ME HERE!Father and Daughter, both multiracial, come together this week to talk about what it was like growing up during their time. Shannon and I weigh in as Sarah Bacerra, an activist and with Women's Marches, and Troy Chapman, jazz guitarist, discuss the differences and the similarities of their experiences.Sarah Bacerra is an inclusion advocate, speaker, and activist in San Diego, CA. She has spent much of her career in leadership development and learning effectiveness, specifically through the lens of fostering belonging in organizations. With a f...
2020-01-02
1h 01
Our True Colors
Coming to Our Census: Are the Race and Ethnicity Questions Needed?
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode, Shawna and Shannon head down to the National Mall in Washington DC to ask people to share their thoughts about the upcoming 2020 US Census with respect to the race questions. How do people in our nation's capital feel about the possible inclusion of ethnicity? Should race be a question included in the census at all? Why or why not? Come along as catch the vibe!Links to more info about the 2020 US Census:General 2020 Census InfoOn including ethnicity as part of the...
2019-12-26
37 min
Our True Colors
Dating Ambiguously
MESSAGE ME HERE!Dating is tricky enough without throwing racial ambiguity in the mic, would you agree? Shawna and Shannon discuss the awkwardness of dating while racially ambiguous. It's been a little while since Shawna has been in the dating scene, but she discusses her experiences earlier in life. She even shares a little bit of dating advice. Come along for the chat!If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram
2019-12-18
36 min
Our True Colors
DNA and Identity with Dr. Anita Foeman [Part 2]
MESSAGE ME HERE!This week, Shannon and I continue our discussion about DNA testing and racial identity. We continue to react to the insight provided by Dr. Anita Foeman, a professor at West Chester University. Her studies racial narrative and identity with regard to DNA ancestry results provides a fascinating backdrop to the decisions that people make regarding their identity and even how, without a DNA test, they may choose to identify as something that was not part of their original narrative.Dr. Foeman studies the sociological experiences surrounding DNA testing when it...
2019-12-10
25 min
Our True Colors
DNA and Identity with Dr. Anita Foeman [Part 1]
MESSAGE ME HERE!Dr. Anita Foeman shares the details of her DNA Discussions Project and talks with me about how one's racial narrative may or may not change based on the results. Should you be extended certain rights dependent upon what the DNA test reveals? What if the results are completely different than what you expected? Shannon and I react to the insight and ponder the possibilities.Dr. Foeman studies the sociological experiences surrounding DNA testing when it comes to one's narrative of their racial background. She teaches in the communications a...
2019-12-02
39 min
Our True Colors
My "Place"
MESSAGE ME HERE!Ever feel the frustration of trying to find your place in society - constantly straddling racial or cultural lines? What about when others try to tell you where you belong? Join Shannon and I as we discuss the puzzlement and pressure of having to BE in some "place". Let's talk about it!If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram and find Season 5 episodes on ...
2019-11-24
25 min
Our True Colors
Talking Multiracial Identity with Dr. Sarah Gaither
MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode we discuss the studies of Dr. Sarah Gaither, who studies multiracial identity. Though we don't know a lot about the development of our racial identities, there have been some very interesting insights - including physical reactions to racial situations.Dr. Gaither is an assistant professor of psychology and neuroscience at Duke University in North Carolina and where she runs the Identity & Diversity Lab. She specializes in studies surrounding biracial and social identities as well as racial interactions, racial categorization, and social development. One of her areas of focus is...
2019-11-17
36 min
Our True Colors
Meet Shannon!
MESSAGE ME HERE!Let's get to know Shannon Edwards, my guest co-host for season one. We will touch on the many experiences we have had as racially ambiguous women from the perspectives of varying generations.If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Continue the conversation on Instagram and find Season 5 episodes on YouTube.Our True Colors is powered by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. Head...
2019-11-11
41 min
Our True Colors
Meet Shawna!
Get to know your host, Shawna Gann, in this mini episode. You'll learn a little bit about where I am from, where I've been, and some of the experiences that l have paved the way to Our True Colors.If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show.Our True Colors is sponsored by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. Head to our website to find out how True Culture Coaching and Consulting can support you and your organization...
2019-11-09
13 min
Our True Colors
START HERE: Learn about OTC!
MESSAGE ME HERE!Welcome to the community!This introductory episode introduces listeners to the premise of Our True Colors. In this opening episode, I discuss terms and concepts surrounding issues of race and racial ambiguity.I encourage you to reach out to me and share your thoughts! What topics would you like to discuss? Do you have some feedback? Reach out with a direct text.Link further exploration:Race as a Social ConstructHuman Genome ProjectRace, Ethnicity, and Culture with Jelly BeansEugenics and Scientific RacismBiden Administration's Proposal for Updated Census Data...
2019-11-09
33 min