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Black and White and GoldEpisode 38 - Speaking Across the Divide - with Emilie Call and Ashlie Sanders of That's Church PodcastAs we sat down with Emilie and Ashlie, it was like talking to old friends. Never mind that Emilie and Carly grew up in the same valley at the same time, several parts of all of our stories had intersecting points. In this conversation, we explore the intersection of personal growth, faith, and LGBTQ+ experiences. We discuss navigating relationships within the church and the evolution of understanding faith, highlighting how spirituality can be deeply personal and subjective. Ultimately, we find we all are advocates for love, acceptance, and the importance of creating safe spaces for...2025-05-2953 min
That's Church.S2 E47: Mother in Heaven: Studies, Stories and The Sacred Feminine with McArthur Krishna, Trina Caudle & Ashli CarnicelliGuests:Ashli Carnicelli – Writer, singer, and passionate believer in the Divine FeminineTrina Caudle – Editor, historian, scoutmaster, and macro-photographerMcArthur Krishna – Author, artist, and advocate for spiritual wholenessTopics Covered:Ashli’s Catholic upbringing and connection to Mary, the mother of JesusMcArthur’s years in India and insights into Hindu goddesses and the Divine FeminineTrina’s interfaith experience as a scoutmaster in Methodist and Presbyterian spacesTangible stories of connection w...2025-05-221h 26
That's Church.S2 E46: Part 2 God Has No favorites: How Curiosity Can Heal Divides with Casey McFarlandIn Part Two, we continue our conversation with Casey McFarland co-host of Pioneering Paradox. This time, we explore:Casey’s experience attending 50+ churches with his wife and kidsWhat interfaith experiences taught him about faith and empathyThe power of curiosity in healing spiritual and cultural dividesWhy he believes God “has no favorites”Reflections on sacred texts like the Bhagavad Gita and the Qur’anHis upcoming Italy tours and Superstition Tour with Patrick MasonHis role on our new That’s Church n...2025-05-1553 min
That's Church.S2 E45: Part 1 Talking to Teens About Church History with Casey McFarlandIn this episode, we sit down with Casey McFarland, co-host along with Wil Wood of Pioneering Paradox and the voice behind one of Instagram’s most thoughtful spaces for conflicted Latter-day Saints. We discuss:How to talk to teens about Church history and faith strugglesWhat it means to be honest without oversharingCasey’s own break from religion and what he learned visiting over 50 churchesBuilding bridges between nuanced and orthodox membersCasey’s Italy tours and upcoming Superstition Tour with Patrick Mason2025-05-151h 03
Pioneering Paradox: A podcast for conflicted saintsInterfaith exploration with the That's Church Podcast hosts Emilie and AshlieWelcome to Pioneering Paradox, a podcast for conflicted Latter Day Saints. In the current polarized climate we find ourselves in, we thought we would interview two people who are working on bringing people together through similarities rather than differences. "That's Church" is a podcast hosted by sisters Emilie Call and Ashlie Sanders, who come together to explore the diverse tapestry of faith within their community. Inspired by their grandparents' mixed-faith marriage and their grandmother's belief that "there is good in all religions," they aim to build bridges between various religious communities by interviewing individuals who lead or attend different c...2025-05-071h 08
That's Church.S2 E44: Is God Disappointed in Me? A Conversation with Kurt FrancomGuest: Kurt Francom • Founder and Executive Director of Leading Saints • Host of the Leading Saints Podcast – available anywhere you get your podcasts • Author of Is God Disappointed in Me? Removing Shame from a Gospel of Grace – Get it here on Amazon (available in paperback and audio)Follow Kurt on Instagram:@leadingsaintsEpisode Highlights: • Kurt’s perspective on grace and why God isn’t disappointed in us • The difference between correction and disappointment • The role of grace and commandments in our...2025-02-1950 min
That's Church.S2 E43: Faith, Resilience, and Rock & Roll: Kristy Lawson on Growing Up Lutheran in Utah & Life Without LimitsIn this episode of That’s Church!, we sit down with Kristy Lawson, who grew up Lutheran in Utah, an experience that made her part of a religious minority in a predominantly LDS culture. We talk about how that shaped her beliefs, the ways she connected with faith, and how she’s navigated life in a place where the majority religion can be deeply ingrained in the culture.
Kristy is also legally blind, and later in the episode, we have an open and insightful discussion about how her vision has impacted her life. She shar...2025-02-071h 18
Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard OstlerEpisode 806: Emilie Call and Ashlie Sanders (Sisters), That’s Church Podcast, Event on March 8thMy friends Emilie Call (married mother of 4) and Ashlie Sanders (married mother of 3) join us to talk about their podcast they founded, and co-host called “That’s Church Podcast” which builds bridges of understanding to other faiths (and people of no faith) and to better support people within our own faith (such as LGBTQ folks). They also share their personal stories navigating complicated topics in our faith and how their work has helped them stay in our Church.
Emilie and Ashlie talk about the next event at Compass Gallery in Provo, Utah on March 8th(National Women’s Day)—speakers and purpos...2025-01-191h 26
That's Church.S2 E42: Nuances, Connections and Raw Conversation with Pastor Jeff from Hello SaintsHappy New Year! In this very raw and real conversation, we sit down with Pastor Jeff McCullough, the creator of Hello Saints, a YouTube channel with over 66,000 subscribers where he explores the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with a refreshing and respectful approach. As an evangelical Protestant pastor, Pastor Jeff brings a unique perspective to interfaith dialogue.
We really enjoyed discussing the nuances of each other’s religions — it was a fascinating and thought-provoking conversation. Jeff shares his experiences visiting LDS services, his views on connection, love, and the importance of growing thro...2025-01-011h 13
That's Church.S2 E41: Finding Purpose in Faith Transitions with Michelle PeperIn this episode, Emilie Call and Ashlie Sanders sit down with Michelle Peper, the voice behind @edge_of_inside, to discuss her journey from a sixth-generation Mormon upbringing to redefining her faith and spirituality after leaving the LDS Church. Michelle shares her experiences navigating a faith transition with her husband, Bob, finding a new religious home in the First Congregational United Church of Christ, and building a supportive community through social media.
Michelle also talks about her meaningful work as a crisis counselor with The Trevor Project, as well as her passions for music...2024-12-261h 23
That's Church.S2 E40: Conflict to Peace with Jenan Mohajir (Muslim) VP of External Affairs with Interfaith AmericaGuest: Jenan Mohajir
Topics Discussed:
• A heartfelt discussion about the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict and its ripple effects globally, especially in the United States.
• Reflections on navigating polarization in America and fostering unity through meaningful action.
• The meaningful conversation Jenan had as a Muslim woman with her friend Rebecca Russo, a Jewish woman, exploring their mutual respect and shared hope for peace.
• Practical steps to create peace and foster understanding across lines of difference.
• Jenan’s background as a storyteller, educator, and bridge-build...2024-12-1859 min
That's Church.S2 E39: Empowering Mixed Faith Marriages with Dr. Julie Hanks, Challenging Patriarchy and Finding Self IdentityDr. Julie de Azevedo Hanks PhD LCSWis a licensed clinical social worker, psychotherapist, relationship expert, performing songwriter, and owner of Wasatch Family Therapy. She specializes in women’s emotional health, relationship struggles, and guiding individuals and couples through faith transitions, mixed-faith dynamics, and spiritual identity shifts. Dr. Hanks empowers others to find their voice, maintain healthy boundaries, and cultivate thriving relationships rooted in authentic values.Topics Covered:Turning mixed-faith marriage challenges into growth opportunitiesDifferentiating core values from religious behaviors and practicesNavigating patriarchal religious cultures to find per...2024-12-1148 min
That's Church.S2 E38: Redrawing the Map: Cheryl Stout on Spiritual Growth, Personal Empowerment, and Embracing PhilosophySummary:
In this episode, we sit down with Cheryl Stout, a former member of the LDS Church who has embraced a journey of self-discovery and spiritual exploration. Cheryl shares her perspectives on:
• Alan Watts’s metaphor of God as the ocean and us as the waves.
• Exploring existentialism, absurdism, and the quest for personal meaning.
• Her experience navigating faith deconstruction and finding empowerment in self-agency.
• The importance of adaptability, creating your own map of reality, and embracing growth.
• Connecting with others authentically and finding acceptance b...2024-12-071h 07
That's Church.S1 E37: HERETIC Review & Spoilers: Insights from 3 Ex-Mormons & 2 LDS Members (2 past Missionaries) as they Dissect & Unpack this Philosophical Psychological thriller⚠️ Spoiler Alert! In this episode of That’s Church!
You will get unique perspectives from BELIEVERS and NONBELIEVERS!
Ashlie Sanders and Emilie Call are joined by their brother Jake Coon, his wife Mandy Coon, and their friend Cheryl Stout to dive deep into the powerful and polarizing new movie Heretic. The film follows two LDS sister missionaries who visit an investigator’s home, only to encounter a surprising challenge to their faith as he introduces them to a religion he claims is the “one true faith.”
Ashlie and Emilie bring their perspe...2024-11-261h 25
That's Church.S2 E36: Onkar and Bryn's Mixed Faith Marriage. Hindu & LDS. Faith, Family, and Finding Common GroundIn this episode, we explore:
• Onkar and Bryn’s backgrounds and how their faith traditions shaped their upbringing.
• The story of how they met and how their love of chocolate chip cookies sparked their connection.
• Navigating a mixed-faith marriage, with Onkar’s Hindu and Bryn’s LDS beliefs, and the importance of respect and mutual understanding.
• How they’re raising their daughter, Jasmira, with a foundation that honors both faiths, including shared values of community and spirituality.
• The significance of traditions like refraining from eating meat on Tuesdays in hon...2024-11-141h 18
That's Church.S2 E35: Beyond the Broom Closet: A Pagan Christian Witch, Maddie's journey from LDS to nature centered spiritualityHappy Halloween! In this episode, we sit down with “Maddie,” a former member of the LDS Church and a practicing pagan who also identifies as a witch. Halloween, or Samhain, holds deep historical significance within pagan and witchcraft traditions. Maddie assures us that releasing this episode on Halloween is not only appropriate but a respectful nod to her journey in reclaiming her own spiritual path. Read more about Halloween’s pagan roots here.
We love the beautiful art she created for us to depict her for this episode. ♥️
Ashlie and I met...2024-10-311h 03
Living Beyond the Shadow of Doubt™Episode 149: Expanding Spiritual Horizons w/ Emilie Sanders and Ashlie Call of 'That’s Church!' Podcast, part 2Ashlie and Emilie are sisters who are passionate about exploring faith, spirituality, and the journey of deconstruction and reconstruction. Through their own personal experiences of questioning and rediscovering their beliefs, they have created a space for deep and meaningful conversations about spirituality and how it evolves over time.
Together, they co-host an interfaith podcast, That’s Church!, which invites listeners to explore diverse perspectives on faith, religion, and personal growth. The podcast delves into the intersection of belief systems and spiritual journeys, featuring discussions with a wide array of guests who share their insights on faith, community, and personal em...2024-10-3042 min
Living Beyond the Shadow of Doubt™Episode 148: Expanding Spiritual Horizons w/ Emilie Sanders and Ashlie Call of 'That’s Church' podcast, part 1Ashlie and Emilie are sisters who are passionate about exploring faith, spirituality, and the journey of deconstruction and reconstruction. Through their own personal experiences of questioning and rediscovering their beliefs, they have created a space for deep and meaningful conversations about spirituality and how it evolves over time.
Together, they co-host an interfaith podcast, That’s Church!, which invites listeners to explore diverse perspectives on faith, religion, and personal growth. The podcast delves into the intersection of belief systems and spiritual journeys, featuring discussions with a wide array of guests who share their insights on faith, community, and personal em...2024-10-2845 min
That's Church.S2 E34: PART 2 Discovering God with Meagan Skidmore: A Deep Dive into Faith and ReconstructionIn the second half of the episode, Emilie shares her personal journey of discovering who God is to her and her conclusion about Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother. The discussion also touches on how each of the hosts has navigated faith transitions and learned to embrace different perspectives in the process.
Don’t forget to attend our Interfaith Event on November 2nd at the Compass Gallery! Tickets are available at tinyurl.com/thatschurch, and use the code MEAGANSKIDMORECOACHING for 50% off.
You can listen to all of Meagan’s inspiring conv...2024-10-2340 min
That's Church.S2 E33: PART 1 Faith Reconstructed: A Journey with Meagan Skidmore, Emilie, and AshlieIn this episode, Ashlie and her sister Emilie sit down with Meagan Skidmore from @meaganskidmorecoaching to have a deep and vulnerable conversation about their belief systems, deconstruction and reconstruction of faith, and what led them to start this interfaith podcast. Meagan shares how their paths crossed and how important these conversations are in creating spaces for discussions often left unspoken in their communities.
Join us for an Interfaith Event on November 2nd at the Compass Gallery from 5 PM to 8 PM. Tickets are available at tinyurl.com/thatschurch, and our listeners can get 50% off with...2024-10-2343 min
That's Church.S2 E32: PART 2 Dr. Patrick Mason (LDS author & Professor)Part 2 of Dr. Patrick Mason’s interview is now available to the public for FREE! 🎉 If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, head back to Episode 19 and catch up first!
Dr. Mason will also be speaking live at A That’s Church Experience on November 2nd from 5 PM - 8 PM at the Compass Gallery in Provo, Utah. He will be one of the presenters, along with four other amazing presenters from different faiths. 🌟 Don’t miss this incredible opportunity to hear him and others share their insights on interfaith connections and community.
Patrick Maso...2024-10-0249 min
That's Church.S2 E31: Part 2 Mary Magdalene with Mandy GreenPART 2
**Episode Summary:**
In this powerful episode, Mandy Green joins us for an insightful conversation about Mary Magdalene, one of the most misunderstood yet pivotal figures in Christian history. Together, we explore how Mary’s life and legacy provide deep spiritual insights for today’s world. Mandy unpacks the transformative role Mary Magdalene plays in her own faith journey and how she symbolizes liberation, healing, and nurturing for so many.
**Key Discussion Points:**
- **Mary Magdalene's Role in Christian History**: How Mary’s presence and action...2024-09-2147 min
That's Church.S2 E30: Unveiling Mary Magdalene's Legacy with Mandy Green**Episode Summary:**
In this powerful episode, Mandy Green joins us for an insightful conversation about Mary Magdalene, one of the most misunderstood yet pivotal figures in Christian history. Together, we explore how Mary’s life and legacy provide deep spiritual insights for today’s world. Mandy unpacks the transformative role Mary Magdalene plays in her own faith journey and how she symbolizes liberation, healing, and nurturing for so many.
**Key Discussion Points:**
- **Mary Magdalene's Role in Christian History**: How Mary’s presence and actions have been historically underrepresented but remain...2024-09-211h 03
That's Church.S2 E29: The Heart of a Woman - A Journey of Transformation with Melanie Meszaros and Celeste JensenHeart of a Woman Retreat is a life changing experience. Time to get away from life in the mountains & connect with God personally. **Episode Summary:**In this special episode of *That’s Church*, Emilie Call welcomes Melanie Meszaros and Celeste Jensen, the co-founders of the nondenominational Christian retreat, *Heart of a Woman*. Joined by her good friend Tristin Duncan, who originally introduced her to the retreat, Emilie dives into the inspiring origins and evolution of this impactful event. Melanie shares the journey th...2024-08-291h 04
Parrish The ThoughtEpisode 174: Ashlie Sanders and Emilie Call | That's Church PodcastLadies and gentlemen and whoever else is listening, welcome back to the program. My guests today are sisters Ashlie Sanders (@the_nuanced_mormon) and Emilie Call, hosts of the growing podcast called That's Church.
Both are lifelong members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) who are building bridges & fostering unity by exploring various churches, beliefs and ideologies as LDS women.
#ThatsChurch #NuancedMormon #LoveThyNeighbor #LDS #Mormon #LDSChurch #BuildingBridges #GoodInAllChurches #MonopolyOnKindness
2024-08-1647 min
That's Church.S2 E28: Deconstruction, Reconstruction, and the Power of Faith with Aubrey Chaves**Episode Title:** Deconstruction, Reconstruction, and the Power of Faith with Aubrey Chaves
**Episode Description:**
We’re thrilled to have Aubrey Chaves, a host and executive board member of *Faith Matters*, join us on today’s episode of *That’s Church*. Aubrey has been a guiding light for many on their faith journeys, and she’ll be MC'ing the upcoming *Restore Conference* this September 5-7. As a special offer, our listeners and followers can use the code *That’s Church* for 20% off their registration! And, if the cost is a barrier, scholarships are available...2024-08-101h 26
That's Church.S2 E27: Part 2 - Men and Women's "roles", Conforming to Ideals, ICWA & Mary Wagner's spiritual journey to inactivity in the LDS churchSubscribe to listen to all the locked episodes for just $2.99/month or $24.99/Year. Cancel anytime in your Settings.
Show Notes: Mary Wagner | Part 2: Raised on a Reservation
In this episode of That's Church Podcast, we continue our conversation with Mary Wagner, delving into her experiences growing up on a Native American reservation and the cultural challenges she faced. Mary shares how her upbringing influenced her spiritual connection with nature and how these experiences shaped her worldview.
Episode Highlights:
- **Challenges and Cultural...2024-07-3145 min
The BETWEEN PodcastAshlie Sanders & Emilie Call: "That's Church - Two Mormon Sisters on an Interfaith Exploration"Our special guests on this episode of The BETWEEN Podcast are Ashlie Sanders and Emilie Call... and these two sisters are doing something really cool... Ashlie and Emilie are the hosts of a podcast called "That's Church." They're also both members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. In fact, Ashlie has a separate big social media presence... she goes by "The Nuanced Mormon."
Ashlie and Emilie's "That's Church" podcast features the two of them visiting and talking with people at different religious communities around Utah. They've visited with people all over their home...2024-07-2853 min
That's Church.S2 E26: Part 1 - Growing up on the Navajo Reservation as a white girl with Mary WagnerIn this episode, we sit down with Mary Wagner to discuss her unique upbringing on the Navajo Reservation. Mary shares her experiences of growing up in a predominantly Navajo environment as a non-native, the absence of television, and how these factors shaped her beliefs and values. She provides insightful contrasts between life on the reservation and the broader white patriarchal society, touching on the significant differences in power structures and cultural practices.
Mary also delves into the economic self-sufficiency of the Navajo Nation, particularly the role of casinos, and the harmful consequences of forced...2024-07-2655 min
That's Church.Episode 025: *LUTHERAN* Pastor Steve Bond - Reconciliation in Christ to accept and affirm LGBTQ & other Minority or Diverse GroupsBeliefs and Information about The Lutheran Church
Pastor Steve Bond is an ordained pastor in the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (the ELCA). The ELCA is the largest Lutheran Body in the United States and is often labeled the more progressive of the three largest Lutheran denominations in the U.S. (the Lutheran Church -- Missouri Synod and Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod being the other two denominations.) There are around 150 different Lutheran Church bodies around the world.
All Lutherans adhere to the theology of Martin Luther, a 16th Century German Roman Catholic m...2024-07-101h 09
That's Church.Episode 024: *LDS* Venice Jardine (Part 2)S2 Episode 024: *LDS* Venice Jardine, Scholar/Anthropologist (Part 2)
“I’ll Stay Where You Want Me To Stay”: How Latter-day Saints Navigate Conflicting Social Values While Remaining Committed to Their Faith. This was the Thesis Venice spent years of research and case work on and we will benefit from her conclusions.
Instagram: @thatschurchpodcast
Summary
The conversation revolves around Venice Jardine sharing stories from her research on Latter-day Saints and their struggles in the church while staying in the church. She discusses the experiences of individuals who have found inspirati...2024-06-3033 min
That's Church.Episode 023: *LDS* Venice Jardine (Part 1)S2 Episode 023: *LDS* Venice Jardine - Scholar & Anthropologist (Part 1)
“I’ll Stay Where You Want Me To Stay”: How Latter-day Saints Navigate Conflicting Social Values While Remaining Committed to Their Faith.
This was the Thesis Venice spent years of research and case work on and we will benefit from her conclusions.
Summary
Venice Jardine, a social cultural anthropologist, discusses her research on how Latter-day Saints navigate conflicting social values while remaining committed to their faith. She explains that sociocultural anthropology focuses on the study of present-day...2024-06-301h 11
That's Church.Episode 022: *Atheist* Tara Herbert (Part 2)S2 Episode 022, Part 2: Shame, Racism and mission experiences
Topics Covered:
1. **Growing Up in the Church**:
- Tara's adoption from Lake Charles and moving to South Jordan, Utah.
- Her experiences being raised in a predominantly white family with both biological and adopted siblings.
2. **Childhood and Church**:
- Reflections on a joyful and active childhood.
- Anecdotes about neighborhood games and childhood memories.
3. **Vulnerability and Safety**:
- Discussing feelings of...2024-06-1959 min
That's Church.Episode 021: *Atheist* Tara Herbert (Part 1 )S2 Episode 021: *Atheist* Tara Herbert (Part 1 )
The Journey of Faith & Identity: PART 1 on Religious PTSD - Motherhood - Finding spirituality in Atheism & philosophy
This Juneteenth we have a very special & intriguing episode.
Introduction:
- Tara Herbert's life story is a testament to the complex journey of faith and identity.
- Born in Lake Charles, Louisiana, and raised in Salt Lake City, Utah, Tara was adopted by a white Mormon family, experiencing life as a black woman in a predominantly white community.
- Her upbringing in the LDS faith included...2024-06-191h 07
That's Church.Episode 020: *LDS* Patrick Mason (Part 2)S2 Episode 020: (LDS) Baggage & Unity: PART 2 Patrick Mason on Baggage in the LDS church & Unity Among all churches
Enjoy Part 2 of Patrick Mason where we cover key topics like women's roles in the church, racism, and wealth, all while embracing spiritual growth through appreciating the value of other faiths. Patrick provides his perspective on the narrative of the ‘Only True and Living Church,’ and shares thoughtful insights on building unity, offering ways to heal divisions and build understanding.
For different insights and discussions, follow us on
Instagram @thatschurchpodcast. Don't miss this season's exploration of faith, challenges, and the pathways to uni...2024-06-0949 min
That's Church.Episode 019: *LDS* Patrick Mason (Part 1)S2 Episode 019: *LDS* Bridging Faiths: PART 1 - Patrick Mason on Proclaiming Peace - Religious EXODUS - Strong LDS Women.
Welcome to the Season Two premiere of "That’s Church"! In our first episode, we sit down with Patrick Mason, a renowned author and scholar whose expertise in religious studies illuminates our understanding of faith and community. As the author of influential books like "Planted" and "Restoration," Patrick shares his profound insights into navigating faith in a complex world.
Episode Highlights:
1. **New Podcast ** Patrick is the Co-Host on a new Podcast, "Proclaim Peace." https://podcasts.appl...2024-06-0945 min
That's Church.Episode 018: Community of Christ (Part 3) Jen Bailey, Brittany Mangelson and Jason EyreThis is our last episode for Season 1. We have so much in store for you in Season 2. Listen to the end to hear just some of the amazing people we have lined up. There’s so many more exciting things happening and we can’t wait to share it all with you.
The questions in this episode all came from you, our listeners. Thank you for your contributions to this beautiful conversation.
We interview Jen Bailey, A trans woman part of the Community of Christ in this Part 3 episode.
We also love the conversation with B...2024-02-221h 02
That's Church.Episode 017: Community of Christ (Part 2) Pastor Brittany Mangelson, Jen Bailey & Jason Eyre♥️Community of Christ conversations with Ashlie Sanders ( The Nuanced Mormon ) and Emilie Call as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Pushing back against patriarchy.
Women in leadership roles
Performing LGBTQ+ weddings
Queer people & the priesthood
Emma smith significance in their church
Word of Wisdom in CofChrist
Concept of priesthood
Finding belief in God after leaving the LDS church
The empowerment of being a female pastor
The role of women in the church
Tithing and contributions
Brittany talks about different ways to look at God.
The nature of God.
Not believing in the Mormon God anymore.
Don’t be...2024-02-1453 min
That's Church.Episode 016 (updated): Community of Christ (Part 1) - Pastor Brittany Mangelson, Jason Eyre and Jen BaileyPART 1 - Join us on this 3 part series to learn more about the Community of Christ Church. Previously the R-LDS or Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
We have a great discussion with Pastor Brittany Magelson - An amazing female pastor with a reputation among many that is so positive. She is so wise and educated with a heart of gold. She has a Masters Degree in the Art of Religion.
Jason Eyre is her assistant in the church and has great history and information to share. He and his wife have a very peaceful multi faith ma...2024-02-0956 min
The Sisterhood PodcastEpisode 179 - A Conversation with "Nuanced Mormon" Ashlie Sanders and her big sis, Emilie Call, about their incredible "That's Church" podcastThis week is a special guest interview with Ashlie Sanders (Nuanced Mormon) and her big sis, Emilie Call about their incredible new podcast, "That's Church." This is such a fun, candid, and heartfelt conversation you won't want to miss! 2024-02-061h 22
That's Church.Episode 015: Christian Orthodox (Part 2) Father Paul INTERVIEW✨Learn along with us about the Orthodox views of Saints and who they are.
✨We talk to Father Paul about Pre-earth life and after death.
✨ Father Paul talks about mercy and forgiveness and important life lessons. 2024-01-3134 min
That's Church.Episode 014: Christian Orthodox (Part 1) INTERVIEW- Father PaulLearn along with us about the Christian Orthodox Church.
Come with us on the journey to explore this Antiochion Church as we discuss our visit to the church.
Father Paul shares information on the DO’s and DONT’s of Orthodoxy, praying and fasting and church attendance.
He shares a bit about the history of the church.
Follow along as he discusses the growing Homeless population near and around this church location. We had a bit of an encounter with one of these individuals during the service.
Find out more in Part 2 next week as we continue our conversation with Father Pa2024-01-2446 min
That's Church.Episode 013: BONUS - Islam VisitAshlie Sanders ( the Nuanced Mormon ) and Emilie Call talk about their visit to the Islamic Center of Utah and their experience with the religion and the people.
They discuss their views on religions in general as they start to wrap things up for Season One and prepare for Season Two of That's Church.
This episode was rushed but is very raw and their true feelings and emotions.
Don't worry they still have 2 more interviews, a bonus episode and a 3 to 4 part series coming up...2024-01-1838 min
That's Church.Episode 012: Muslim Women (Part 2) INTERVIEW - Maysa Kergaye☪️ Converting to Islam - yes it's possible and it's quite simple.
🧕🏼How women feel about being separated from the men at during Islamic services.
🩷 The meaning of a Hijab and the choice to wear it.
🕊️Do's and Don't for Muslim Women and Men within Islam. Can they drink Alcohol? Eat Pork? Find out in this episode with Maysa Kergaye.
✨Maysa's favorite quotes.
⭐️ Refugee needs and Maysa's support and work within their community.
♥️✨🕊️ After we fini...2024-01-1028 min
That's Church.Episode 011: Muslim Women (Part 1) INTERVIEW - Maysa KergayeWe are excited to publish this great interview from the very influential Muslim woman Maysa Kergaye✨
Maysa speaks 5 languages✨
She's lived around the world & has an interesting viewpoint after working as a volunteer in the Prison system. ✨
Maysa works to bring the Muslim and LDS communities together through her volunteerism. ✨
She talks about hijabs and the modesty around them✨
We learn about fasting and the importance of Ramadan✨. The next “Meet the Muslims” will be Saturday, January 13, 2024 at the Utah Islamic Center @ 2:30PM.2024-01-0340 min
That's Church.Episode 010: Islam (part 2) INTERVIEW - Imam Shuaib Din✨Learn about what Muslims believe about Jesus Christ and Muhammad.
📖 A bit about the Qur'an (Koran) and the 6 Tenants of Faith within the Islamic Religion.
⛪️ Get a glimpse into many similarities of Islam and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
🕊️ Imam Shuaib Din's personal connection to God.
♥️✨🕊️ Participate in a beautiful Islamic prayer with us.
⭐️ Our explanation of our podcast and Ashlie's Nuanced Mormon Account on instagram within our bloopers.
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That's Church.Episode 009: Islam (part 1) INTERVIEW -Imam Shuaib Din✨ Imam Shuaib Din talks about being a Muslim, his background and his role in the community.
🕊️He discusses and explains some of the misconceptions about Islam.
☪️ Learn along with us about the Five Pillars of Islam and the Pilgrimage to Mecca.
👏Join us next week to understand more about their beliefs in Jesus Christ, Muhammad and much more.2023-12-2027 min
That's Church.Episode 007: Judaism (part 1) INTERVIEW - Rabbi Sam SpectorRabbi Sam Spector shares his experience growing up in a Jewish household.
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What motivated him to become a Rabbi.
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A funny story involving an LDS Apostle.
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The need for different opinions in religion.
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The Jewish conversion
Process. And much, much more!2023-12-2038 min
That's Church.Episode 008: Judaism (part 2) INTERVIEW - Rabbi Sam SpectorSam Spector talks about his LGBTQ plus advocacy🏳️🌈
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How amidst all the tragedy, UNITY and LOVE are needed more now than ever!
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How we can show support.
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Hanukkah and other important Jewish traditions🕎
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What motivates him to do good. 🙏🏼2023-12-2038 min
That's Church.Episode 009: (part 1) INTERVIEW - Islam - Imam Shuaib Din✨ Imam Shuaib Din talks about being a Muslim, his background and his role in the community.
🕊️He discusses and explains some of the misconceptions about Islam.
☪️ Learn along with us about the Five Pillars of Islam and the Pilgrimage to Mecca.
👏Join us next week to understand their beliefs about Jesus Christ and Muhammad and much more.2023-12-2027 min
That's Church.Episode 006: VISIT - Jewish Synagogue - This one with Ashlie & Emilie will get you exited for next week's interview with Rabbi Sam Spector.🕍 **Exploring Synagogue Vibes! 🕊️**
In this episode, join us on our delightful visit to a Salt Lake City synagogue! 🏰 Emilie reflects on her mission days, sharing a hilarious moment involving actress Alicia Silverstone. 🌟 We unravel unexpected encounters, savor the deliciousness of baklava, and bask in the warm embrace of the Jewish community. 🤝 Let's laugh, learn, and connect in this insightful journey into a different place of worship! 🎙️✨ #InterfaithAdventures #JourneyOfLaughter #SynagogueStories2023-11-2931 min
That's Church.Episode 005: INTERVIEW (Part 2) - Krishna with Caru & Vai. See how they are similar to LDS views & commandments like the Word of Wisdom. Rituals & Purpose. Relation to Hinduism. Prophecy from Bishop.PART 2 of our captivating Interview with Krishna leaders Caru & Vai.
Witness a pivotal moment when a profound perspective on God reshapes Caru’s beliefs, offering a unique spiritual insight. 🌟
Uncover the tenets of Krishna consciousness, including forbidden aspects and temple rituals like the red dot and fire ceremonies and the symbolism behind depicting Krishna’s skin as blue🌈🌟
Vai clarifies the relationship between Krishna consciousness and Hinduism, providing a deeper understanding of their spiritual path. 🙏🌟
Join us for a profound reflection on duty, responsibility, and the transformative power of faith. 🌟🕉️2023-11-2232 min
That's Church.Episode 004: INTERVIEW (Part 1) - Krishna with Caru & Vai, the Utah Krishna Temple Founders. Festival of Colors, Building Krishna Temple, Talents, Marriage, relationship with LDS churchOn this insightful episode of That’s Church, we sit down with Krishna Leaders- Vai and Caru. 🙏🏼✨
They explain how they found Krishna Consciousness, and how they’ve used it to bless the lives of many.✨
We find out the meaning behind the popular Festival of Colors✨🎨
They share the secret to their marriage & success. ✨👫
Caru talks about his respect for the LDS Church, and how he can relate to its members. ✨
We learn how Vai’s love for art and...2023-11-1439 min
That's Church.Episode 003: VISIT - Krishna Temples with Emilie and Ashlie - Sharing what inspired us to create That’s Church ✨We discuss our visit to the Krishna temples and our conversation with it’s leaders- Vai and Caru. ✨
We talk about the Festival of Colors and its origins. 🎨✨
How Vai and Caru met and what brought them to Krishna Consciousness.✨
We discuss Krishna practices through the lens of our LDS backgrounds.✨
We share a bit about ourselves and what inspired us to create this podcast.✨2023-11-0939 min
That's Church.Episode 002: VISIT - Courageous Church with Ashlie & Emilie - Experience a service at the Courageous with us!🩷 Join us on a journey to the Courageous Church in our bonus episode! We share our heartwarming experience attending this beautiful place of worship. We dive into the thought-provoking message from Pastor Jason about oneness, highlighting the beauty of unity in diversity.
🩷 Explore the architecture and the spiritual ambiance that filled the building, nurturing a sense of connection and inclusivity. Our chat extends to the warmth of the members, their openness, and the joy of connecting with individuals from various backgrounds, faiths, and unique perspectives.
🩷 Tune in to discover how our visit to the Courageous Church deepened our appreciation for the rich...2023-10-2437 min
That's Church.Episode 001: INTERVIEW - Courageous Church - Pastor Jason Chatham - Unity & OnenessEpisode 001: Courageous Church - Pastor Jason Chatham
✨This is an exciting episode of "That's Church!"
Sit down with us and Pastor Jason Chatham, one half of the dynamic duo behind the Courageous Church in Sugar House, Utah.
✨Get ready for an intimate conversation that's more like chatting with an old friend. Let's start by introducing you to Jason and his wife Pastor Candice Chatham, the founders of the Courageous Church. ✨The Courageous Church has a fun backstory kicking off in 2019 at a local movie theater and takes us through worshipping during COVID. Jason shares their journey through this time and what they d...2023-10-151h 10
That's Church.Episode 000: Trailer🩷 Welcome to That's Church!, where we journey to expand our knowledge of other religions and explore each person’s unique spiritual path. I'm Emilie, joined by my co-host and sister, Ashlie Sanders.
💛 Our mission is to build bridges between Utah’s many diverse religious communities.
🩷 We’re inspired by our grandparents' mixed-faith marriage. Grandma Maxine always said “there is good in all religions”
💛 Their example of love, and mutual respect, inspires us to reach beyond our LDS backgrounds and embrace different ideas and truths.
🩷 Presi...2023-10-1301 min